Bronies are changing the definition of masculinity on the same level that furries are changing the definition of sexuality.

I gotta say my favorite part of pony fandom is the response images - nothing, NOTHING pisses of someone in the politics tab more then having his beliefs undermined by an cleverly captioned image from a show about magic ponies. Drives them crazy. And finding just the right one is a joy with the creativity people put into them.

I'm now concerned that my watching Mr. Rogers with my sons - and enjoying the plotline -- makes me a person you can't trust around your sweaters.

Are Bronies changing the definition of masculinity?



No.

Who doesn't like brownies?

kingfismit: Over obsessed fanboys suck no matter what. Spamming pony, amime, rage faces, or whatever will get you all sorts of fark off whether it's masculine or not. So, no, you are not re-defining masculinity, you are just annoying.

FirstNationalBastard: [image.spreadshirt.com image 280x280]

//if your masculinity is threatened because someone likes watching a fun show about candy colored ponies, you're the one with the problem, not me.

It's not your masculinity that I am worried about so much as your intelligence. Just how retarded do you have to be to be obsessed with something that has a target audience of little girls.

/maybe it's the little girls you're interested in?

HappyTheDog: I don't hate Bronies, I feel a bit sorry for them however. They can't help if they're autistic.

Uh oh. Now you've done it.


/You made Tony mad.

Sim Tree: This whole brony 'debate' is reminiscent of middle school culture, where if you liked Star Trek, you were a 'nerd', and could get beat up

doglover: [i.imgur.com image 640x613]

They'll even take over your `manly' Starwars

angryjd: Come on! Is this real? I think people are having fun with us by creating another fake internet phenomenon.

This sounds very much like furries. There are probably three people in the world who are into some disturbing kinky thing and then 10,000 people blog about it, leaving the impression that it is about to socially take over the world.

ghare: Brony = troll movement

BillCo: It's not your masculinity that I am worried about so much as your intelligence. Just how retarded do you have to be to be obsessed with something that has a target audience of little girls.

/maybe it's the little girls you're interested in?

It's nice that you have an opinion. I'm betting you haven't watched it. It may be kids programming, but it was written to entertain the young father taking care of them. Of course, if you don't want to watch spunky and cute female personalities tailored to our age group, feel free to continue staring at the man-meat show that is professional sports.

I'll hold my opinion untl I hear Pat Robertsons opinion on the subject.

FirstNationalBastard: RainbowDash: [i3.photobucket.com image 640x360]

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Violent cartoons? Never heard of them!

Skyfrog: Although there were tons of racist cartoons made back then by Disney and pretty much everyone.

Yep!

Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.



1978 laughs at 2012's definition of masculity, and decent animation for that matter.

Seraphym: I've seen the show at my kid's friend's house (who's a girl) and I couldn't have given a lesser shiat about it; it was exactly like described: intended for pre-teen girls, and just, well, for a young-thirties engineer, lame.

That's a strangely specific denial there.

Seraphym: clown-sex category

What. The. Hell.

Clowns are evil. They're utterly terrifying.

I believe stand your ground should allow them to be shot on site.

Seraphym: /as big of a Star Wars fan I used to be as a teenager, that key phrase "growing up" has allowed me to see what a massive dork I could have been had it not happened soon enough

Hey. Atleast you can admit you liked crappy science fiction.

FirstNationalBastard: Hand Banana: [farm1.static.flickr.com image 316x160]

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Latest DVD purchases, been enjoying them as much as ever.

Also Duckman, I forgot how awesome that show was.

Poor, poor Duckman...

Never even got a real ending, because farking USA canceled it and the creators said "fark you, we're ending on a cliffhanger!".

/same thing happened to Sliders.

I recall seeing part of one episode of Duckman where his two-headed son had gotten a scale model of the Titanic stuck in one of the head's neck's windpipe and the other head was panicking about being stuck with a dead, rotting half-brother or something. All I could think was "Your heads share a body, as long as one can breathe both heads will live".

Weird-ass cartoon.

Skyfrog: Comparing pre-FIM MLP to FIM is like comparing 60s campy Batman to modern Batman.

They both exist only to sell toys.

So....this is a thing.....wow. Just....wow. I'm embarrassed for you.

And since it's a pony thread, the Denver Derpys!

Being a fat, autistic Bronie is no way to go through life, son.

El Freak: No, they don't. A tiny fraction might, just the same way as a small fraction of fans of any show, or sports team, or anything will bring it up too much. Don't assign the bad behavior of a few onto the whole group, because it's stupid to do to ANY group.

Personally I don't see Bronies post about MLP any more than I see anybody else post about Star Trek, Star Wars, Dragonball Z, sports, etc. In fact IMO they tend to be a whole lot less obnoxious. The only real difference is that MLP is "OMG FOR GIRLZZZZ!!!", and that drives the micro penised "manly men" INSANE. Seriously, as someone mentioned up the thread, we see all kinds of geeks obsessed over kids shows like Transformers, Voltron, Dragonball Z, etc, and they don't inspire NEAR the butthurt that bronies do. I think it's kinda hilarious. Are they redefining masculinity? No, but they drive the macho dudebro dipshiats nuts, and I approve.


What kind of adult male sits down and says "hey, I'm going to watch my little pony?" It's not like you grew up with it. All the other things that you mentioned have been around for years, and there is usually a certain nostalgia associated with them. The MLP cartoon has been around since 2010. No one here was watching that show when they were 12.

This reminds me of a debate I heard where someone asked "if you watched porn featuring a transsexual and a girl would it be gay?" The answer is "It might not be gay, but it's weird." Adult males getting into MLP is just weird.

Also you sound fat.

If you read this thread while mentally replacing My Little Pony with RON PAUL and ignore the 'intended for girls' and 'love and tolerance' bits, it still makes sense.

Sorry, I only like things that the have been deemed appropriate for my age and gender. Want to join my very fun and socially appropriate club? We mostly watch NBC sitcoms while drinking Michelob Ultra. Mainstream culture rocks!

doglover: Seriously though, there's bronies in Afghanistan protecting your right to be haters.


I don't want to live on this planet anymore

Maybe some day my secret love of Hello Kitty won't have to be quite so secret. :)

Oh, it's this thread - again.

/MLP rawks!
//Standing room only in the dayrooms and lounges at my university when MLP is on.
///Student enrollment is over 25,000, btw.
////Welcome to the future.

LasersHurt: oh_please: 3) You brag about it at every opportunity.



No, they don't. A tiny fraction might, just the same way as a small fraction of fans of any show, or sports team, or anything will bring it up too much. Don't assign the bad behavior of a few onto the whole group, because it's stupid to do to ANY group.

Personally I don't see Bronies post about MLP any more than I see anybody else post about Star Trek, Star Wars, Dragonball Z, sports, etc. In fact IMO they tend to be a whole lot less obnoxious. The only real difference is that MLP is "OMG FOR GIRLZZZZ!!!", and that drives the micro penised "manly men" INSANE. Seriously, as someone mentioned up the thread, we see all kinds of geeks obsessed over kids shows like Transformers, Voltron, Dragonball Z, etc, and they don't inspire NEAR the butthurt that bronies do. I think it's kinda hilarious. Are they redefining masculinity? No, but they drive the macho dudebro dipshiats nuts, and I approve.

oh_please: "Bronies":

I'm pretty sure that most of you aren't creepy pedophiles, but it looks that way to a lot of people. Now I realize that you guys "don't care what other people think, MAN!" and all that, but seriously, look at yourselves for a few minutes:

1) You're a grown person, and
2) You watch a show designed for preteen girls, and
3) You brag about it at every opportunity.

You're not some kind of crusader for personal freedom, you just want to belong to a club that's so uncool it's cool. I get that, we've all been through it at one time or another, but most of us grew out of it sometime in high school or shortly thereafter. It's your thing, do what you want to do, but don't complain when people mock you or say you look creepy because you deserve it.

Sincerely,

Everyone

Yeah, well, I think sports fans are farking creepy. All obsessing and wagering their worth and the worth of the players on a game and hating other people for daring to wear a different colored jersey. And basing their entire days, weeks, sometimes lives on largely transitory short events that have no chance of changing history. And sometimes even going so far as to get their children involved, sometimes even in activities that can hurt them permanently! I mean, what's up with that! I'm all for health but come on.

But I'm not going to go on this tirade very time a coworker is WOO FOOTBALL WOO. Nor am I going to think they're terrible people because of it. Sure, I think it's creepy. But hey it's only a small part of who they are.

/there are exceptions
//they're creepier

Allen. The end.: I did indeed.

Then I went to the website you quoted. The research (if you can even call an online poll that) about as scientifically legitimate as "timecube".

Considering it was a demographics study done by two college psychology professors, I'm sure it's much less valid than your own opinions.

But, that's ok. You're entitled to believe what you want. No matter how wrong you are.

xanadian: The brown male pony with the hourglass on its butt and the distaste for apples made me wonder if that was a nod to Doctor Who...

How DARE you not know the awesome that is Dr Whooves?!



Though personally I'm more a Cteno fan.

xanadian: The brown male pony with the hourglass on its butt and the distaste for apples made me wonder if that was a nod to Doctor Who...


Yep!

megalynn44: I am disappointed in the amount of pony pictures in this thread


Dis
a
Point

You're not helping!

Allen. The end.: In the words of Steve Albini: "All you farking pussies can suck our cocks". These trend-sucking dilletantes (sp.) are marginally human, using pop "culture" as a cheap replacement for personal philosophy, bubble-wrap against interaction with the world, and a desperate attempt to remain a child. I'm sure that they suckle bottles at night as well. "Oh, but it's beer or coffee now. not milk" they may say...but they would be deluding themselves, of course. Gah!

2) How is the Brony Community like other "Avid Fan" groups?
a) It serves a Social function (for most Bronies) of connecting them with other fans outside of their geographic location. (This varies based upon their openness to telling others)
b) It serves as an activity that the fan can focus on (maybe a small thing or a central focus) that provides a sense of meaning to the fans lives (It fills their day and/or gives them a sense of purpose)
3) How is the Brony Fan Community unlike (different from) most other
"Avid Fan" groups?
a) The object of interest (MLP:FiM) is a non-stereotypic interest for the general fan base. Males and adults who like a cartoon associated with a young female population (stereotypic female toy/cartoon). This feature of the fandom likely explains the variety of shocked (It's a joke... right!) and hostile reactions directed at the Brony community by the "haters" and the "uninformed." Anyone who does not take the time to look beyond this feature (>>>FOX Newsb) MLP presents a highly moral and virtuous message allowing it to serve a Guidance function (for many Bronies). This is likely to be the least recognized feature of the Brony phenomenon, but may also represent one of the Brony Fan Community's greatest strengths and potential contributions to emerging web based fan communities. If individuals are going to surf the web and interact on social sites, why not on sites and with people who believe and try to live a theme of Love and Tolerance?
We often ask parents the question: "Which would you rather have your teen doing? Watching a group of humorous and highly pro-social (moral) ponies, or playing video games where they beat up, torment, kill and murder other creatures (even if they are zombie, orcs or gang members)? We do realize that many Bronies take part in this video game mayhem; however, it appears that MLP may act as a balancing force in their lives. b>Please note that the positive guidance aspect of the phenomenon may evoke ridicule and hostility from some individuals (and groups) who feel that religion (sacred scripture) is the ONLY valid source of moral guidance, and that statements like WWPD (What would a pony do?) border on blasphemy.
4) The medium of MLP allows for a great deal of artistic expression and personalization of one's Brony identity. The Brony Fandom shares this characteristic with numerous other internet fandoms. Being based on an animated cartoon series in the internet age (with video, sound and photo editing program readily available) provides a rich source of material for creative expression. This can be seen in the proliferation of pony video clips, pony music, pony fan fiction, and personalized pony avatars. The more extensive the creative/artistic expression the more likely it is that individual fans will find a niche or place in the community that "speaks to them."

/arguing from psychological research is MUCH more rewarding than simply calling you a G.I.F.T.
//Lurk more if you don't know what that is.

kingfismit: Over obsessed fanboys suck no matter what. Spamming pony, amime, rage faces, or whatever will get you all sorts of fark off whether it's masculine or not. So, no, you are not re-defining masculinity, you are just annoying.

This. I don't care about the show. I don't care about your anime, your photo-memes from 4chan reddit and flicker, your troll/rage faces, your Dr. Who, or any of the other shiat internet-people get obsessed with and post in every thread as though it's the 3rd coming and the newest most interesting thing ever.

You like a little kids show. You think it's cleverly written, and that's cool. I don't care either way so shut up about it. You're the one insecure in your masculinity if you're threatened by it.

The fark is this doing in the geek tab? Yiff in hell.

I didn't RTFA/WTFV, but it seems to me that half of the brony thing is because they're trying to get together with other like-minded people and have fun without getting hassled. There was mention that when they started identifying as bronies, they became attention whores. Trekkies, Superfans, Otaku... this isn't exactly a new thing, and it can be on any subject; from books to sports to TV shows. Maybe the groups just appear to be a new thing because of the internet. Or maybe the groups are bigger because there's this constant pressure of "You shouldn't watch this" "This isn't meant for your gender" "Not masculine." and the only way to feel comfortable is safety in numbers.

Why exactly is it that MLP is considered exclusively for females, and things like G.I. Joe, Transformers, etc are considered a show for males? Why is "Fight your way out of a problem" considered good for boys, and "love and tolerance" considered bad? Why is the opposite true for girls? And why do some people have a problem with others stepping out of the designated gender role?

/You know who should dig giant robots? You, me, and chicks.
//So what's wrong with guys digging ponies?

Wayne 985: Perditax: I don't get why people think watching cartoons = pedophilia. I would much rather leave small children in the care of bronies than anyone who thinks of boffing kids the second they see a cartoon character. If you see a picture of a pony and you automatically think of schtupping kindergartners, you might just have a problem there.

I have nothing against ponies. My concern is with grown men who religiously watch any programming directed at small girls by themselves. It's very Michael Jackson.

No it isn't, and the very idea it is is stupid. Its a farking harmless show meant to be a bit of fun, and that it has appeal to adults as well as children should matter not.

BillCo: FirstNationalBastard: [image.spreadshirt.com image 280x280]

//if your masculinity is threatened because someone likes watching a fun show about candy colored ponies, you're the one with the problem, not me.

It's not your masculinity that I am worried about so much as your intelligence. Just how retarded do you have to be to be obsessed with something that has a target audience of little girls.

/maybe it's the little girls you're interested in?

Isn't it funny that its always the people who hate on the cartoon are the first ones to mention pedophilia?

/What's on your mind, BillCo?

OnlyM3: Sorry snowflake. I know in your self centered imaginary little world, we all revolve around you, but no, you are no "threat" to anyone other than small unsupervised children.

So because we like cartoon ponies, we're pedophiles? Really?

/You sound mad.

BillCo: FirstNationalBastard: [image.spreadshirt.com image 280x280]

//if your masculinity is threatened because someone likes watching a fun show about candy colored ponies, you're the one with the problem, not me.

It's not your masculinity that I am worried about so much as your intelligence. Just how retarded do you have to be to be obsessed with something that has a target audience of little girls.

/maybe it's the little girls you're interested in?

In psychology they call that projection. For more examples see today's Republican and Democrat parties.

My problem with Bronies, as with everything else like this is not that they like something I dont like. I dont dont like it. Hell I dont know if I like it because I dont care about it. No, my problem (and I suspect most people's problem with Bronies though they dont know exactly how to quantify it) is that theyre so farking aggressive about how much they like it. Shouting how much they like it in everyones faces forcing it upon everyone and anyone around them. Its almost as if theyre trying just as hard to convince themselves its a worthwhile endeavor as they are to convince everyone else. As with anything like this, I couldnt give three farks if you like it... but shut the fark up and leave the rest of us out of it.

Sim Tree: This whole brony 'debate' is reminiscent of middle school culture, where if you liked Star Trek, you were a 'nerd', and could get beat up; or if you enjoyed classical music, you were therefore 'gay'.

Today I shamlessly watch Star Trek, and classical music, and My Little Pony. They are all fun, enjoyable works. I don't need anyone's permission to have fun. This isn't middle school.

The expected audience of Star Trek: Sci-fi fans (neeerrrrrdddsss!!!!!)
The expected audience of Classical Music: Music people
The expected audience of My Little Pony: Little girls.

Bronies aren't changing masculinity; they're showing a lack thereof. It actually makes me feel better about watching anime since there's a level of man-child below me.

Over obsessed fanboys suck no matter what. Spamming pony, amime, rage faces, or whatever will get you all sorts of fark off whether it's masculine or not. So, no, you are not re-defining masculinity, you are just annoying.