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2012-06-10 02:59:08 AM  
Nope.
 
2012-06-10 03:00:27 AM  

mantidor: I can't believe I caved in and finally watched an episode.

Its retarded, if you are going to follow a My Little Pony series you should watch the original 80s series, at least the art is better, that flash crap that became standard for cartoons makes me sad

And I love unicorns and pegasus, but the show was annoying if anything. Go watch The Last Unicorn, now that is animation done right.


Sounds like you're letting the animation style cloud your judgement. I always thought the old series animation was very ugly in comparison and I love the flash animation style of the new series. I can understand not liking the animation but the show is so much better than the mindless saccharine sweet zombie ponies of the old series where nothing bad ever happened and they sat around giggling and having tea parties as opposed to something like The Return of Harmony or A Canterlot Wedding. Did you just watch a bit of one episode and quit, not really a fair review. Of course you might watch every episode and still not like it and that is perfectly ok and normal. If everyone liked something that would be very strange.

G4 Rainbow Dash reacts to G3 Rainbow Dash: Link
 
2012-06-10 03:04:29 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: /Rarity is best Pony


No, because Pinkie Pie.
 
2012-06-10 03:24:42 AM  
Exactly what's wrong with flash animation?
 
2012-06-10 03:36:08 AM  

thamike: Keizer_Ghidorah: thamike: Keizer_Ghidorah: Bronies don't riot in the streets murdering and destroying because their team lost/won. Bronies don't have undying violent rivalries over who throws or catches a ball better. Personally I feel safer in the company of guys who watch a cartoon than in the company of guys who watch sports.

Hitler had an infatuation with Disney characters.

I highly doubt that Fantasia was the reason Hitler embarked on conquest and genocide.

And I highly doubt pro basketball turned Kim Jong Il into a total asshole. Major League Baseball's connection to Fidel Castro's brand of bastard is a bit murkier though.


I was talking about the many riots caused by sports fans whose favorite team lost in big games. Not to mention Canada sees a sports riot whenever the favorite team wins. People have been killed and property destroyed in sports riots.
 
2012-06-10 03:39:57 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Exactly what's wrong with flash animation?


The old purists hate anything that's not hand-drawn, decrying computer-aided animation as being lazy and a betrayal of animation. It's pretty much the same thing as any other new and different method of doing something coming out, there's always people who hate it on principle for not being what they're familiar with.
 
2012-06-10 03:40:10 AM  

mantidor: if you are going to follow a My Little Pony series you should watch the original 80s series


Sorry but the old 80s series was complete crap and downright offensive in it's gender stereotypes. "Ooh, let's play dress up and paint our nails, then we can have a slumber party! Wheee, tee-hee!" All of the old characters were boring cardboard cutouts, not to mention freakishly ugly. Many cartoons from that era have aged badly but the original MLP is among the bottom of the barrel. I can understand watching it for nostalgia if you grew up with it but that's about it.
 
2012-06-10 03:41:40 AM  

Zerocyde: This video is incorrect. Bronies aren't "redefining masculinity" they are avoiding it.

Also, if the show is so good and has such a good message, then compliment it and move on, but any male who defines themselves by a little girl's tv show still has some growing to do and some masculinity to achieve. You don't get to just redefine a word to include you just because you're upset that you aren't included by the definition of that word.


LOL!! Penis envy much?!?
 
2012-06-10 03:44:37 AM  

Magnanimous_J: I thought you bronies only liked this crap ironically. But to listen to some of you neckbeards so aggressively defend your love for a little girl's cartoon. This is.... this is just weird guys.

I get liking Cartoons as an adult. I'm rounding the bend on 30, and the Venture Brothers is one of my favorite shows of all time. Admittedly I always thought that Anime fans were mostly secret pedophiles, and I am still correct about that. I don't think liking "My little pony" as an adult man makes you a pedo in the way Anime does (unless MLP prominently features incest and impossibly breasty 11 year old japanese girls, in which case, I really have the wrong impression of MLP). I do think I would recommend getting your hormone levels checked though, and lay off the soy.


It's a mix - some are being ironic for attention, others are deranged/child molesters.
 
2012-06-10 03:55:19 AM  

SuperT: is it just me, or is fark full of 40 year old guys who really want it to be the early 60s again?


I don't know if just you're really bad at math or if I'm missing your point, but
 
2012-06-10 03:56:44 AM  

SuperT: is it just me, or is fark full of 40 year old guys who really want it to be the early 60s again?


I don't know if you're just really bad at math or if I'm missing your point, but

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-10 04:15:03 AM  

Novart: Magnanimous_J: I thought you bronies only liked this crap ironically. But to listen to some of you neckbeards so aggressively defend your love for a little girl's cartoon. This is.... this is just weird guys.

I get liking Cartoons as an adult. I'm rounding the bend on 30, and the Venture Brothers is one of my favorite shows of all time. Admittedly I always thought that Anime fans were mostly secret pedophiles, and I am still correct about that. I don't think liking "My little pony" as an adult man makes you a pedo in the way Anime does (unless MLP prominently features incest and impossibly breasty 11 year old japanese girls, in which case, I really have the wrong impression of MLP). I do think I would recommend getting your hormone levels checked though, and lay off the soy.

It's a mix - some are being ironic for attention, others are deranged/child molesters.


Since you think people over the age of 10 liking cartoons = pedophiles, does that go for other cartoons like Transformers: Prime? Is your thought process split between "MLP watchers are girl-targeting pedos, Transformers watchers are boy-targeting pedos"? Is there any correlation between watching cartoons and pedophilia in the first place? Do you also think people who watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are animal-raping furries? Are you just a stupid troll?
 
2012-06-10 04:18:06 AM  

bbfreak: I know some of you like comics, don't care for sports, aren't very handy but yet you don't consider yourself any less a man or let society think of you as some sort of creep.


Society has no control over what you think of yourself. But it's a 2-way street: you, likewise, have no control over what society thinks of you.

You can't "not let" society think of you as anything. And there are a lot more of society than there are of you. And you have to live with them.

/And that's a lot harder to do if they think you're a creep.
//Or a man without a valid card.
 
2012-06-10 04:20:12 AM  
Ok, beside all the trolling going on with these dumb pony images, the 4ch'r that originally came up with the "say hello to..." image should get an award. That's funny stuff, I'll admit.
 
2012-06-10 04:21:56 AM  

Novart: It's a mix - some are being ironic for attention, others are deranged/child molesters.


If you're going to troll at least try to come up with something that wasn't already done in the second post.

0/10
 
2012-06-10 04:23:38 AM  

Drayen: I'm not a brony, I've never seen the show, but if it brings you happiness and joy, more power to you. All this hate is sad.


The really sad thing? Hate is not sad. It keeps a lot of us going.

The real world creates a lot of haters, people who find happiness and joy to be false and hollow. The internet magnifies the effect, because hate transmits a lot better over text than happiness.

Go to sites like Spearhead and you'll even see hate as the basis of a new masculinity. It's nauseating, but for the time being it seems to be keeping them off the streets.
 
2012-06-10 04:26:35 AM  
Meanwhile, nearly 60 years ago..


i.imgur.com

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And yet, not one person burst into the cinema and screamed "YOU'RE GROWN ADULTS! STOP WATCHING KIDS SHOWS~!!!
 
2012-06-10 04:28:10 AM  

doglover: porkloin: But, then he grew up digging worms, and as I did not spend my childhood watching TV, and how I raised my son in the same manner, it only seems natural that my grandson knows the names of every edible plant in the vicinity, and he likes to watch spiders making webs with a flashlight, and he likes to organize all his realistic toy animals by their home continents, and he doesn't want to go to Europe, because, "There are no big interesting animals left in Europe except some birds, like storks." And I am not making this up.

I did all that, then I watched Darkwing Duck.

I appreciate your old timey wisdom, but cartoons are awesome. Don't mistake your own prejudice for wisdom just because you have it.


And Trap Door
 
2012-06-10 04:33:23 AM  

ktybear: doglover: porkloin: But, then he grew up digging worms, and as I did not spend my childhood watching TV, and how I raised my son in the same manner, it only seems natural that my grandson knows the names of every edible plant in the vicinity, and he likes to watch spiders making webs with a flashlight, and he likes to organize all his realistic toy animals by their home continents, and he doesn't want to go to Europe, because, "There are no big interesting animals left in Europe except some birds, like storks." And I am not making this up.

I did all that, then I watched Darkwing Duck.

I appreciate your old timey wisdom, but cartoons are awesome. Don't mistake your own prejudice for wisdom just because you have it.

And Trap Door


At least it's a good sign that the kid doesn't want to go to Europe and be exposed to a social welfare state where the concept of "men" is meaningless because there are no big interesting animals left to kill.
 
2012-06-10 05:24:35 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Hate is not sad. It keeps a lot of us going.


That's so sad you feel that way.
 
2012-06-10 05:32:22 AM  

doglover: i upped my meds-up yours: Hate is not sad. It keeps a lot of us going.

That's so sad you feel that way.


Seriously. If you need hate to keep you going what a pitiful, miserable life you must have.
 
2012-06-10 05:53:39 AM  

punistation: Meanwhile, nearly 60 years ago..


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And yet, not one person burst into the cinema and screamed "YOU'RE GROWN ADULTS! STOP WATCHING KIDS SHOWS~!!!


Actually, the Looney Tunes cartoons were created for adults, as part of the overall theater package... an animated short, a newsreel, and a feature film. It wasn't until TV that the Looney Tunes shorts were marketed to kids... which led to censorship because, well, the shorts weren't originally meant for children.
 
2012-06-10 07:13:58 AM  

punistation: Meanwhile, nearly 60 years ago..


[i.imgur.com image 320x240]

[i.imgur.com image 570x260]

[i.imgur.com image 560x420]


And yet, not one person burst into the cinema and screamed "YOU'RE GROWN ADULTS! STOP WATCHING KIDS SHOWS~!!!


yeah especially those Looney Tunes featuring marijuana use.
 
2012-06-10 07:18:56 AM  
If you ever wonder to yourself if you're masculine....don't worry! You're not.
 
2012-06-10 07:54:21 AM  
FirstNationalBastard: punistation: Meanwhile, nearly 60 years ago..


[i.imgur.com image 320x240]

[i.imgur.com image 570x260]

[i.imgur.com image 560x420]


And yet, not one person burst into the cinema and screamed "YOU'RE GROWN ADULTS! STOP WATCHING KIDS SHOWS~!!!

Actually, the Looney Tunes cartoons were created for adults, as part of the overall theater package... an animated short, a newsreel, and a feature film. It wasn't until TV that the Looney Tunes shorts were marketed to kids... which led to censorship because, well, the shorts weren't originally meant for children.


And they were racist and sexist as all get-out. The World War II Propaganda ones are especially hillarious, and will never be seen on TV.

/Slap a jap!
 
2012-06-10 09:10:02 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: /Rarity is best Pony


Truer words were never spoken
 
2012-06-10 09:11:48 AM  

BronyMedic: And they were racist and sexist as all get-out. The World War II Propaganda ones are especially hillarious, and will never be seen on TV.

/Slap a jap!


I remember the donald duck one where he reads mein kampf
 
2012-06-10 09:13:59 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Drayen: I'm not a brony, I've never seen the show, but if it brings you happiness and joy, more power to you. All this hate is sad.

The really sad thing? Hate is not sad. It keeps a lot of us going.

The real world creates a lot of haters, people who find happiness and joy to be false and hollow. The internet magnifies the effect, because hate transmits a lot better over text than happiness.

Go to sites like Spearhead and you'll even see hate as the basis of a new masculinity. It's nauseating, but for the time being it seems to be keeping them off the streets.


fc09.deviantart.net
 
2012-06-10 09:47:05 AM  
 
2012-06-10 09:51:55 AM  

Drubell: As much as I like the show, a $300K budget for a Brony documentary?


Well, the original 60k was gonna be used for just a single convention, now that they're over 200K, they're using that money for traveling expenses to go not just to other conventions but also overseas to interview influential people in the community, like The Living Tombstone in Israel, as an example. I think they're also interviewing firemen, policemen and soldiers that are also bronies.
 
2012-06-10 09:56:16 AM  
It's not specifically the ponies that bother me.

It's the fact that this is just another shallow cult whose misguided members use it as a source of piety.

The thing that isn't "adult" to me is the obvious dependence on the association with and approval of others to constitute one's own identity.
 
2012-06-10 10:01:05 AM  
It should be obvious that people that dress up as characters from MLP or masturbate to them are no more typical fans of the show than guys that wear Star Fleet uniforms and have taught themselves Klingon are typical Star Trek fans. And that seems to be the image people who complain about "Bronies" have.
 
2012-06-10 10:29:28 AM  
We almost reached 700. Good job Fark! i3.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-10 10:58:18 AM  
Degenerate Monkey: The thing that isn't "adult" to me is the obvious dependence on the association with and approval of others to constitute one's own identity.

[Citation Needed]

Dinobot: Well, the original 60k was gonna be used for just a single convention, now that they're over 200K, they're using that money for traveling expenses to go not just to other conventions but also overseas to interview influential people in the community, like The Living Tombstone in Israel, as an example. I think they're also interviewing firemen, policemen and soldiers that are also bronies.

And the interesting thing is that the community funded this entirely through donations.

/My EMT friend in Canada, Scott, is going to be in it.
//Surprised to see just HOW MANY cops, Firefighters, EMS people, Nurses, and Soldiers are bronies.
 
2012-06-10 11:06:39 AM  
Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.

i9.photobucket.com

1978 laughs at 2012's definition of masculity, and decent animation for that matter.
 
2012-06-10 11:09:24 AM  
Greymalkin: Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.

Cartoonlion has you covered, bro.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N1d_thQV_AY/Tm_ZEUT7ZvI/AAAAAAAAAW0/sXdBamF x Yno/s1600/FWC+-+Fluttership+Down+-+Bigger.jpg
 
2012-06-10 11:20:38 AM  

BronyMedic: /My EMT friend in Canada, Scott, is going to be in it.


so awesome!
 
2012-06-10 11:30:55 AM  

Greymalkin: Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.

[i9.photobucket.com image 640x512]

1978 laughs at 2012's definition of masculity, and decent animation for that matter.


pbffft -- i watched watership down, plague dogs and felidae when I was a kid. try harder.
 
2012-06-10 11:40:21 AM  

BronyMedic: Greymalkin: Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.

Cartoonlion has you covered, bro.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N1d_thQV_AY/Tm_ZEUT7ZvI/AAAAAAAAAW0/sXdBamF x Yno/s1600/FWC+-+Fluttership+Down+-+Bigger.jpg


Has me covered with a 404 link?

Brutal. I am defeated by your prowess and competence. Gee I cannot think why the best description of the Brony fandom I have heard is "a celebration of mediocrity".

Here let me help, after all friendship might be the magic you need to fail less at life.

Link
 
2012-06-10 11:44:47 AM  

BronyMedic: Degenerate Monkey: The thing that isn't "adult" to me is the obvious dependence on the association with and approval of others to constitute one's own identity.

[Citation Needed]

Dinobot: Well, the original 60k was gonna be used for just a single convention, now that they're over 200K, they're using that money for traveling expenses to go not just to other conventions but also overseas to interview influential people in the community, like The Living Tombstone in Israel, as an example. I think they're also interviewing firemen, policemen and soldiers that are also bronies.

And the interesting thing is that the community funded this entirely through donations.

/My EMT friend in Canada, Scott, is going to be in it.
//Surprised to see just HOW MANY cops, Firefighters, EMS people, Nurses, and Soldiers are bronies.


And how many would have been more or less curbstomped by their drill sergeants, training instructors, etc., if anything pony-oriented had turned up during their recruit stage?
 
2012-06-10 11:46:48 AM  

Dinobot: Greymalkin: Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.

[i9.photobucket.com image 640x512]

1978 laughs at 2012's definition of masculity, and decent animation for that matter.

pbffft -- i watched watership down, plague dogs and felidae when I was a kid. try harder.


When the Wind Blows?

What exactly am I supposed to try harder at? Encouraging people to watch other animated shows?

You clearly have, well done. This doesn't detract from my point that most of the Brony crowd is woefully ignorant of anything not made in the last 5-10 years tops and their appreciation of the artform is limited by it.
 
2012-06-10 12:00:40 PM  
Greymalkin: BronyMedic: Greymalkin: Bronies can be amusing, for instance they are real easy to talk into watching an animated movie about bunny rabbits who have adventures looking for a new home.

Cartoonlion has you covered, bro.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N1d_thQV_AY/Tm_ZEUT7ZvI/AAAAAAAAAW0/sXdBamF x Yno/s1600/FWC+-+Fluttership+Down+-+Bigger.jpg

Has me covered with a 404 link?

Brutal. I am defeated by your prowess and competence. Gee I cannot think why the best description of the Brony fandom I have heard is "a celebration of mediocrity".

Here let me help, after all friendship might be the magic you need to fail less at life.

Link


You shouldn't lecture people when your failure to remove the spaces that FARK's html aggregator puts in long links caused you to get that 404 error.

:3

i upped my meds-up yours: And how many would have been more or less curbstomped by their drill sergeants, training instructors, etc., if anything pony-oriented had turned up during their recruit stage?

Judging military life by the experience of drill sergeants in BCT fails just as hard as judging civilian life by going on the experiences of a convict.

The whole job of a Drill Sergeant is to be a sociopathic dickhole who breaks down your sense of individuality and replaces it with a sense of cohesion among your fellow soldiers, and to condition you not to freak right the fark out when someone puts an AK in your face.
 
2012-06-10 12:11:43 PM  

eddievercetti: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x360]

When is this game coming out?


Not soon enough!
 
2012-06-10 12:13:55 PM  

BronyMedic: The whole job of a Drill Sergeant is to be a sociopath dickhole who breaks down your sense of individuality and replaces it with a sense of cohesion among your fellow soldiers, and to condition you not to freak right the fark out when someone puts an AK in your face.


i.imgur.com
Approves.
 
2012-06-10 12:24:27 PM  

BronyMedic: Judging military life by the experience of drill sergeants in BCT fails just as hard as judging civilian life by going on the experiences of a convict.


Except you don't have to do hard time to be accepted as a civilian.
 
2012-06-10 12:26:09 PM  

Greymalkin: This doesn't detract from my point that most of the Brony crowd is woefully ignorant of anything not made in the last 5-10 years tops and their appreciation of the artform is limited by it.


That is a fascinating POV, because I find that I LIKE MLP because it reminds me of the glory days of animation when characters were multidimensional, had flaws, and were interesting to watch because the story is interesting.
 
2012-06-10 12:32:07 PM  

Shadow Blasko: Greymalkin: This doesn't detract from my point that most of the Brony crowd is woefully ignorant of anything not made in the last 5-10 years tops and their appreciation of the artform is limited by it.

That is a fascinating POV, because I find that I LIKE MLP because it reminds me of the glory days of animation when characters were multidimensional, had flaws, and were interesting to watch because the story is interesting.


Agreed. We like the show for the characters and their developments. The fact that they're marshmallow ponies is completely secondary.

Also, your argument about not appreciating things older than 5-10 years really doesn't hold water -- I find the epitome of american animation to be Exosquad and that show is almost 20 years old.
 
2012-06-10 12:38:31 PM  
Dinobot: Also, your argument about not appreciating things older than 5-10 years really doesn't hold water -- I find the epitome of american animation to be Exosquad and that show is almost 20 years old.

BLASPHEMY!

Early 1980s Battletech Cartoon was awesome. If only they had gone on longer than a season. Original Beavis and Butthead was awesome, too. :(

I personally find the old Tex Avery cartoons to be some of the best animation ever produced.

What year was The Brave Little Toaster made?
 
2012-06-10 12:41:37 PM  
Dr Chuck Jones... Wrote the book on conflict resolution.

/Best episode of Farscape

images.wikia.com
 
2012-06-10 12:46:29 PM  

BronyMedic: I personally find the old Tex Avery cartoons to be some of the best animation ever produced.


I loved Tex Avery! Specially Red (Hot Riding Hood) =P

But c'mon... Exosquad was awesome! It had some of the best writing of its era, I just think its the best because it's basically an analogy for the WW2 European Theater (Just like the old Gundam was for the Pacific)
 
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