Some 'Splainin' To Do: Dinobot: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Dinobot: Rarity doesn't get enough love -- it makes her cry
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I'm with you. Rarity pony is best pony.

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Indeed she is.

Because sharing is caring, I've got to tell you that she was my least favorite character when I first started watching. Of all the ponies, she seemed like she was going to be the most stereotypical one: the dumb, fashion obsessed type that I just can't stand watching.

"Suited for Success" completely changed my outlook on her. Instead of being a vague bimbo who was way too concerned about her appearance, she was revealed to be a serious professional woman and artist who put a tremendous amount of work into her craft. She does what she loves, but works her ass off to make it happen.

That alone really puts her over the top, in my book. She's the very definition of what a positive role model should be. Even as an adult, I can find relevance in that message.

(To say nothing of the secondary message that the customer isn't actually always right, and that giving them exactly what they want might not always be a great idea.)

And, if you want to dig deeper and do armchair psychoanalysis on Rarity, she's a pony who desperately wants to overcome her smalltown upbringing.

She's cultivated an uppercrust accent, even though her parents are decidedly midwestern working class ponies, she wants the acceptance of the high class Canterlot ponies, and she works hard trying to make a name for herself to escape her middle class roots. However, even though she can get embarrassed if someone like Hayseed Turniptruck outs her upbringing, she still won't abandon her friends.

FirstNationalBastard: And, if you want to dig deeper and do armchair psychoanalysis on Rarity, she's a pony who desperately wants to overcome her smalltown upbringing.

She's cultivated an uppercrust accent, even though her parents are decidedly midwestern working class ponies, she wants the acceptance of the high class Canterlot ponies, and she works hard trying to make a name for herself to escape her middle class roots. However, even though she can get embarrassed if someone like Hayseed Turniptruck outs her upbringing, she still won't abandon her friends.

That's certainly there to, and it's also something I can relate to. I come from a white/brown trash background, and I've always stood out and apart from my family, so I can understand her feelings. (My father always complained that I had campaign tastes on a beer budget.)

What's remarkable is that they manage to convey this without veering into making her a snob. She's class conscious, in that she really does prefer the finer things in life, but she just doesn't look down on those around her, most especially her friends.

As long as we're digging in to the character, can I say how cool it is that they've managed to subtly indicate that she doesn't really get along well with kids. She doesn't hate them, but she also doesn't relate to them. How utterly cool is it to have a female character who doesn't automatically get slotted into the mommy-in-training role?

Some 'Splainin' To Do: oh_please: Some 'Splainin' To Do: As a brony, I don't care if you don't like us. We have thick skins and we're totally used to being called as sorts of ugly things.

But you get all butthurt when someone points out that people may not universally accept you. That's not the definition of "thick skin", I suggest you grow one.

Why look, it's Mr. You-Didn't-Quote-My-Whole-Post, taking my reply out of context. Let me help you with the relevant bit. I'll put it in bold to help you out.

"As a brony, I don't care if you don't like us. We have thick skins and we're totally used to being called [all] sorts of ugly things. But, as a geek, I'm just a bit disappointed in your rush to judge other geeks for being weird. I expect better of my people."

But hey man, it's okay. Lot's of people have issues with reading comprehension. You're still a perfectly good person, I'm sure.

Why look, it's someone who didn't get the fact that I was doing what you were doing, and then you got all mad about it.

You're not getting what I'm saying here. It's cool, do your deal., just don't whine and cry when people don't like what you like. I was trying to tell you WHY people find it kind of creepy, and you get all butthurt. I'm not against you at all, but it seems like you think I'm trying to attack you. I'm not. BTW, your user name is awesome.

Pfft.

TEAM PINKY PIE

She's deliciously insane.

oh_please: You're not getting what I'm saying here. It's cool, do your deal., just don't whine and cry when people don't like what you like. I was trying to tell you WHY people find it kind of creepy, and you get all butthurt. I'm not against you at all, but it seems like you think I'm trying to attack you. I'm not. BTW, your user name is awesome.

The difference is that I included the parts of your posts that were relevant to what I was saying, while you excluded the parts of my post that were relevant to what you were replying to. There's a small but crucial difference at play.

Every single step of the way in this conversation, I have responded calmly and rationally, addressing every single point you've raised with reasoned rebuttals. And every step of the way, you've accused me of being butthurt because I'm unwilling to accept that I'm never going to have "universal acceptance", in spite of the fact that I've clearly, and repeatedly, stated that I neither expect nor want any such thing. I'm sincerely perplexed by the fact that I haven't been able to successfully convey that to you and I wish that I could find some way to do so just because I hate leaving a communication gap like that unresolved.

Honestly, I don't know what your deal is, but you seem to be projecting a lot of expectations that I simply must be butthurt into my words so that you can validate your feeling that butthurt must be what I'm feeling. Frankly, I can't argue with that kind of circular logic, so I will simply concede that I'm not going to be able to convince you of anything on this topic so that we can spare ourselves the tedium of more pointless iterations. You are welcome to your opinions, sir, even though I think that they are based on some very bad presumptions.

I'm glad you like my handle, though. Yours is pretty cool, too.

Some 'Splainin' To Do: oh_please: You're not getting what I'm saying here. It's cool, do your deal., just don't whine and cry when people don't like what you like. I was trying to tell you WHY people find it kind of creepy, and you get all butthurt. I'm not against you at all, but it seems like you think I'm trying to attack you. I'm not. BTW, your user name is awesome.

The difference is that I included the parts of your posts that were relevant to what I was saying, while you excluded the parts of my post that were relevant to what you were replying to. There's a small but crucial difference at play.

Every single step of the way in this conversation, I have responded calmly and rationally, addressing every single point you've raised with reasoned rebuttals. And every step of the way, you've accused me of being butthurt because I'm unwilling to accept that I'm never going to have "universal acceptance", in spite of the fact that I've clearly, and repeatedly, stated that I neither expect nor want any such thing. I'm sincerely perplexed by the fact that I haven't been able to successfully convey that to you and I wish that I could find some way to do so just because I hate leaving a communication gap like that unresolved.

Honestly, I don't know what your deal is, but you seem to be projecting a lot of expectations that I simply must be butthurt into my words so that you can validate your feeling that butthurt must be what I'm feeling. Frankly, I can't argue with that kind of circular logic, so I will simply concede that I'm not going to be able to convince you of anything on this topic so that we can spare ourselves the tedium of more pointless iterations. You are welcome to your opinions, sir, even though I think that they are based on some very bad presumptions.

I'm glad you like my handle, though. Yours is pretty cool, too.

Some 'Splainin' To Do: You are welcome to your opinions, sir, even though I think that they are based on some very bad presumptions.

And you are welcome to yours, we'll agree to disagree on this one.

Dinobot: I could be wrong, but I think Rarity seems to be the one with the biggest range of expressions so far. I guess it comes hand in hand with being histrionic.

Oh, to be certain. She's self-consciously dramatic, and that lends itself to an awesome range of expressions. As I said above, I really get a great Audrey Hepburn vibe off of the character.

Tennozan: Why are people still here? Is there bacon?

Some threads get discussed 'til FARK shuts 'em down.

Wrestling is one type, Brony threads are another.

Tennozan: Why are people still here? Is there bacon?

Most of the knee-jerk haters have left, so we can have conversations about ponies without all of that distraction.

That, and there is bacon. Have a bite.

Speaking of which, I'm way behind quota on my pony memes.

Dinobot: That whole "I'm so pathetic" from suited for success was awesome.

"I don't even know what I'm supposed to be wallowing in! I'm so pa-thet-ic!"

Tennozan: Why are people still here? Is there bacon?

There is last post. I guess. Seems silly to me, though...