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(YouTube)   Are Bronies changing the definition of masculinity, or just making it 20% cooler?   (youtube.com) divider line 823
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2012-06-09 12:27:49 PM
If you read this thread while mentally replacing My Little Pony with RON PAUL and ignore the 'intended for girls' and 'love and tolerance' bits, it still makes sense.
 
2012-06-09 12:29:45 PM
This video is incorrect. Bronies aren't "redefining masculinity" they are avoiding it.

Also, if the show is so good and has such a good message, then compliment it and move on, but any male who defines themselves by a little girl's tv show still has some growing to do and some masculinity to achieve. You don't get to just redefine a word to include you just because you're upset that you aren't included by the definition of that word.
 
2012-06-09 12:30:28 PM

orbister: That said, bronies are clearly pampered, self-indulgent idiots.

 
2012-06-09 12:33:21 PM

Zerocyde: This video is incorrect. Bronies aren't "redefining masculinity" they are avoiding it.

Also, if the show is so good and has such a good message, then compliment it and move on, but any male who defines themselves by a little girl's tv show still has some growing to do and some masculinity to achieve. You don't get to just redefine a word to include you just because you're upset that you aren't included by the definition of that word.


Have you ever considered that maybe they just like it, and don't define themselves by it?

This seems to be the fallback.

"They can't like it because it's for girls! MYEH!"
"That's stupid, people can like what they like."
"Well they define their whole lives by it, and that's bad!"

No, that's stupid. It's as valid as saying sports fans ALL define their lives by it, or Star Trek Fans, or anything. The percentage of the people in any given group who are absorbed by it is small, and it happens across every group. Bronies are no exception.
 
2012-06-09 12:33:29 PM

doglover: orbister: That said, bronies are clearly pampered, self-indulgent idiots.


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2012-06-09 12:33:51 PM
Damnit... I slept though a Brony thread.

/Hells Yes I am a Brony.
 
2012-06-09 12:35:13 PM
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Haters gonna hate
 
2012-06-09 12:35:51 PM
You can't just put people into cookie cutter molds!

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2012-06-09 12:36:40 PM

Satosuke: Trogdor's gay cousin,


LMAO. I never thought of Discord that way. I like it!
 
2012-06-09 12:37:54 PM
"Phillip Pullman has previously ripped Lewis' odd views about childhood and adulthood to shreds. "

Because manly men don't offer alternate opinions, they simply rip others' views to shreds!
 
2012-06-09 12:38:42 PM

Edziak: "Phillip Pullman has previously ripped Lewis' odd views about childhood and adulthood to shreds. "

Because manly men don't offer alternate opinions, they simply rip others' views to shreds!


And that's why they wear the pants.
 
2012-06-09 12:38:48 PM

Lost_in_Oregon: doglover:

I forget what they're called but they had something similar to "clopfic" back in the 40's with cartoon characters like Popeye and Olive Oyal being bootlegged and then... well you don't want to know but let's just there's always a few weirdos out there who will draw anything having sex with anything else.

I hate you.

Now I'm stuck remembering that third grade joke about how Popeye keeps his dick from rusting by sticking it in Olive Oyal.


Why oh why were you compelled to share??
 
2012-06-09 12:39:27 PM
I have no idea what the appeal of this show is to adults.

What bothers me is when someone strongly aligns with a commercial product. This is product designed to sell advertising. People who make a fuss about it as just as weird as those who have to wear designer clothes with gigantic logos. They're too insecure to just be themselves and have to hide behind a subculture. People go over the top with car manufacturers and pro sports, as well.

That's creepy, whether it's ponies or wearing a costume to a football game.

Me? I am not too big on sitting and consuming media. I like to go places and do things. Sitting and watching isn't anywhere as fun as riding a motorcycle, cooking, shooting guns or making stuff that uses high voltage electricity. (There's a lot of cat-snuggling, too.)
 
2012-06-09 12:39:44 PM
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2012-06-09 12:40:36 PM

L.D. Ablo: I have no idea what the appeal of this show is to adults.

What bothers me is when someone strongly aligns with a commercial product. This is product designed to sell advertising. People who make a fuss about it as just as weird as those who have to wear designer clothes with gigantic logos. They're too insecure to just be themselves and have to hide behind a subculture. People go over the top with car manufacturers and pro sports, as well.

That's creepy, whether it's ponies or wearing a costume to a football game.

Me? I am not too big on sitting and consuming media. I like to go places and do things. Sitting and watching isn't anywhere as fun as riding a motorcycle, cooking, shooting guns or making stuff that uses high voltage electricity. (There's a lot of cat-snuggling, too.)


Thanks for letting us all know that you're too good to like anything. That's a valuable addition to the conversation.
 
2012-06-09 12:42:26 PM

El Freak: No, they don't. A tiny fraction might, just the same way as a small fraction of fans of any show, or sports team, or anything will bring it up too much. Don't assign the bad behavior of a few onto the whole group, because it's stupid to do to ANY group.

Personally I don't see Bronies post about MLP any more than I see anybody else post about Star Trek, Star Wars, Dragonball Z, sports, etc. In fact IMO they tend to be a whole lot less obnoxious. The only real difference is that MLP is "OMG FOR GIRLZZZZ!!!", and that drives the micro penised "manly men" INSANE. Seriously, as someone mentioned up the thread, we see all kinds of geeks obsessed over kids shows like Transformers, Voltron, Dragonball Z, etc, and they don't inspire NEAR the butthurt that bronies do. I think it's kinda hilarious. Are they redefining masculinity? No, but they drive the macho dudebro dipshiats nuts, and I approve.



What kind of adult male sits down and says "hey, I'm going to watch my little pony?" It's not like you grew up with it. All the other things that you mentioned have been around for years, and there is usually a certain nostalgia associated with them. The MLP cartoon has been around since 2010. No one here was watching that show when they were 12.

This reminds me of a debate I heard where someone asked "if you watched porn featuring a transsexual and a girl would it be gay?" The answer is "It might not be gay, but it's weird." Adult males getting into MLP is just weird.

Also you sound fat.
 
2012-06-09 12:42:27 PM
There is some crossover between the trekkie and MLP fanbase and they cater to that. In a few episodes an omnipotent trickster character named Discord was voiced by John di Lancie who is know for his previous work as Q on Star Trek: The Next Generation
 
2012-06-09 12:42:48 PM

L.D. Ablo: shooting guns


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2012-06-09 12:43:21 PM
Okay, I watched the first season and loved it. Haven't seen the second season yet, inasmuch as I rely on the internet for my pony fix. Also, liking it is less of an issue for women for... some reason. I think. (Also, there's that nostalgia factor. I do still have "vintage" My Little Pony dolls floating around somewhere.)

In any case, I am not creeped out by a guy who likes a clever, well-done cartoon, be it X-Men or MLP:FiM. And... I'll just leave this here and be on my way...
 
2012-06-09 12:43:36 PM

doglover: orbister: That said, bronies are clearly pampered, self-indulgent idiots.


This is Fark. Anyone reading this is by definition a self-indulgent idiot.
 
2012-06-09 12:44:03 PM

pedobearapproved: What kind of adult male sits down and says "hey, I'm going to watch my little pony?" It's not like you grew up with it. All the other things that you mentioned have been around for years, and there is usually a certain nostalgia associated with them. The MLP cartoon has been around since 2010. No one here was watching that show when they were 12.


Have you considered that adults might just like good cartoons? Particularly young adults who grew up watching cartoons? Or are people ONLY allowed to watch shows they used to watch in the past?
 
2012-06-09 12:45:03 PM

doglover: L.D. Ablo: shooting guns

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A Rainbow Dash AA12?

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2012-06-09 12:45:41 PM
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2012-06-09 12:45:54 PM
Jesus. Brony threads get about as much vitriol as Caturday threads.

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2012-06-09 12:46:59 PM

space1701: There is some crossover between the trekkie and MLP fanbase and they cater to that. In a few episodes an omnipotent trickster character named Discord was voiced by John di Lancie who is know for his previous work as Q on Star Trek: The Next Generation


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2012-06-09 12:47:13 PM

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I just snorfed wine at 2 AM thanks.
 
2012-06-09 12:47:36 PM
I prefer Californication. There might have been an episode that included ponies. But most episodes include the Bewbies. Please don't judge.
 
2012-06-09 12:47:42 PM
I imagine these are people we read abotu on fark who have parents that felt assigning their child a gender identity was something brainwashed members of society do
 
2012-06-09 12:49:05 PM

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I have to say it: Fattershy.
 
2012-06-09 12:49:32 PM

orbister: FirstNationalBastard:Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. [...]. - C.S. Lewis

Phillip Pullman has previously ripped Lewis' odd views about childhood and adulthood to shreds. Adulthood is about learning, growing and maturing. Sure, childhood is great, but what sort of weirdo wants children not to learn, not to grow, not to mature.

That said, bronies are clearly pampered, self-indulgent idiots.


If C.S. Lewis would have stayed an atheist, Pullman would have said it was one of the greatest quotes from one of the greatest people in history. You might as well ask a Hatfield what he thinks of the worldview of the McCoy family.
 
2012-06-09 12:50:40 PM
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2012-06-09 12:51:12 PM
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2012-06-09 12:52:45 PM

Ringshadow: Sure, I think it's creepy. But hey it's only a small part of who they are.


More than likely because they have small parts.
 
2012-06-09 12:53:08 PM
Bronies are a bunch a Nancies.
 
2012-06-09 12:53:38 PM
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2012-06-09 12:53:38 PM
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2012-06-09 12:54:10 PM

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2012-06-09 12:54:13 PM
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2012-06-09 12:54:27 PM
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2012-06-09 12:55:00 PM
Being a fat, autistic Bronie is no way to go through life, son.
 
2012-06-09 12:55:02 PM
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RIP STEAKFACE
 
2012-06-09 12:55:12 PM
Lol. They think they're heterosexual.
 
2012-06-09 12:55:12 PM
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What is it that I find so mesmerizing about My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic?

It's funny, witty, funny, cute, funny, has good messages and strong writing... Oh, did I mention it's FUNNY?

Who wouldn't watch a cartoon that's funny?

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2012-06-09 12:55:40 PM

Frank N Stein: Being a fat, autistic Bronie is no way to go through life, son.


Being a dick anonymously on the internet is way better, good call.
 
2012-06-09 12:55:41 PM

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2012-06-09 12:55:54 PM
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stupid Fark

I said........

RIP STEAKFACE
 
2012-06-09 12:56:12 PM

L.D. Ablo: I have no idea what the appeal of this show is to adults.


The characters are well drawn and show more intelligence than a lot of the characters you see on prime time TV. It does a good job of showing how different personalities have different approaches to solving problems and resolving conflicts.

It's funny that the haters fixate on the gender issue because the show itself is pretty gender neutral. Obviously you can tell between the male and female characters, but they never act stereotypically masculine or feminine.
 
2012-06-09 12:56:35 PM
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2012-06-09 12:56:38 PM

uttertosh: cretinbob: Bronies are gaycan be poly without your SO getting pissed, nttawwt

Fixed for reality check (personal anecdote, to be clear)


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Whatever you can do to have a good time, let's get on with it,
So long as it doesn't cause a murder . . .
 
2012-06-09 12:57:12 PM
hate you so much right now, Fark
 
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