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2012-06-09 11:31:10 AM

Foxxinnia: If you let a television show you watch, the type of music you listen to, the political party you align with, the sub-culture they identify with, or the hobby you engage in become the defining aspect of your personality, then that's a bad thing. There are a lot of people with literally no character walking around perceiving life though lenses crafted by commercial entities and advertisement firms. They can't perceive their lives fully or adequately because the manner in which they interpret everything is just a way to sell them goods and services. You're a brony? No, you're not. You're a guy who watches My Little Pony. You're a gamer? No, you're just a person who plays video games. Everyone just stop farking labeling yourselves. Do you need to connect with other human beings? Yeah, we all do. Stop huddling into little sub-groups, searching for humanity though computer monitors, and having all your human interaction colored by something designed to sell you things. Go outside. Talk to people openly and honestly. Then you'll experience actual humanity. I know it's scary, but it's better than a digital hugbox where everyone is just like you and they all like the same things as you.


Thank you.

I fear you're casting pearls before swine, however.
 
2012-06-09 11:31:51 AM

BronyMedic: Allen. The end.: I did indeed.

Then I went to the website you quoted. The research (if you can even call an online poll that) about as scientifically legitimate as "timecube".

Considering it was a demographics study done by two college psychology professors, I'm sure it's much less valid than your own opinions.

But, that's ok. You're entitled to believe what you want. No matter how wrong you are.


"We quibble over terms!"

And for the record, I believe nothing. The professors themselves admit that the demographics you mention are inadequate...oh, crap, are we having an INTERNET fight about a frickin' CARTOON??? Jeez, I apologize. I'm sure we are both too nice in the real world to carry on with such BS. If we meet, I'll buy you a beer and we'll laugh, OK?
 
2012-06-09 11:32:46 AM

LoneWolf343: Liking a TV show does not make you special. Bronies have a rampant ego problem.


Projection, HOOOOOOO!
 
2012-06-09 11:32:53 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: About as narrow as this finger, ladies!
Men are to be tested. Always. Manliness is never taken for granted.


Not sure if you're serious or mocking the concept. But that idea you expressed SHOULD be mocked.
 
2012-06-09 11:33:14 AM

xanadian: That's the one I was thinking of. Not to mention the other Mexican mice with Speedy Gonzales, nor whenever something blew up on a cartoon character, they'd always end up in blackface.

For that matter, Tom & Jerry, I think, did the blackface gag more often. I think.



Speaking of Speedy, and IIRC:

Years ago, Cartoon Network pulled the old school Speedy Gonzales cartoons because they wanted to be PC and not offend their Latino viewers.....except that Cartoon Network in Mexico continued to show those classics. What the f*ck?! So it would be offensive to show the in America, but it's cool to show them in Mexico? Damn it so much.
 
2012-06-09 11:34:06 AM
You're going to LOVE ME!!

xanadian: I...only knew of the one like Doctor #10. Holy freakin' shiat. Guess who hasn't been paying attention? :-/


Some of them are only flashed on the screen for a second and are difficult to spot.


Something like 90% of the boys at my son's high school watch/talk about MLP. The Brony generation?
 
2012-06-09 11:34:08 AM

Allen. The end.: Jeez, I apologize. I'm sure we are both too nice in the real world to carry on with such BS. If we meet, I'll buy you a beer and we'll laugh, OK?


*points*
Bronie!
 
2012-06-09 11:34:39 AM

Counter_Intelligent: kingfismit: Over obsessed fanboys suck no matter what.

This.


This x 2.

I like certain TV shows, as do some of my friends. We don't have a special name for ourselves or tell everyone about how we are part of the latest passing fad at every opportunity.
 
2012-06-09 11:34:56 AM

shivashakti: i upped my meds-up yours: About as narrow as this finger, ladies!
Men are to be tested. Always. Manliness is never taken for granted.

Not sure if you're serious or mocking the concept. But that idea you expressed SHOULD be mocked.


Mock away then. It matters not.
 
2012-06-09 11:35:28 AM
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2012-06-09 11:36:13 AM

The_Sponge: xanadian: That's the one I was thinking of. Not to mention the other Mexican mice with Speedy Gonzales, nor whenever something blew up on a cartoon character, they'd always end up in blackface.

For that matter, Tom & Jerry, I think, did the blackface gag more often. I think.


Speaking of Speedy, and IIRC:

Years ago, Cartoon Network pulled the old school Speedy Gonzales cartoons because they wanted to be PC and not offend their Latino viewers.....except that Cartoon Network in Mexico continued to show those classics. What the f*ck?! So it would be offensive to show the in America, but it's cool to show them in Mexico? Damn it so much.


I like Slowpoke Rodriguez. He has a gun.

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2012-06-09 11:38:04 AM
It's just a defense mechanism against the fear of having to step up. To say that guys who practice this are redefining masculinity is a slap in the face to the rest of us. We all cope with fear in our own way but don't try to move the goal posts to make yourself feel better at the expense of everyone else.
/farking soccer moms and participation trophies and social promotion BS.
JACKWAGONS!!!
 
2012-06-09 11:38:42 AM

BronyMedic: I've never been able to get myself THAT interested in Slugbox's art, being that he's a hentai artist by profession. He's kind of like Jay Naylor to me. He's done some funny, good stuff, but I can't get the appeal because of that.


I just like Cteno, I don't really care about the rest of Slugbox's art. Cteno is a sweetie.

Discorded Dr. Whooves is awesome.

http://askdiscordwhooves.tumblr.com


I have that tumblr watched.

/I need to update my tumblr
 
2012-06-09 11:38:43 AM

vudukungfu: Allen. The end.: Jeez, I apologize. I'm sure we are both too nice in the real world to carry on with such BS. If we meet, I'll buy you a beer and we'll laugh, OK?

*points*
Bronie!


Ah, dick!!!!

/also funny!
//not a muthaskratchin bronie
///more into toddlers with tiaras
////REALLY kidding.
 
2012-06-09 11:39:57 AM
As the father of 3 girls who all love this show, I'd just like to say that Rainbow Dash is a farking jerk. Hey biatch, why you got to hate on turtle so hard? You were only nice to him after he saved you ass.
 
2012-06-09 11:41:50 AM

Cake Hunter: Stay gold, bronyboy.


Now, that is some funny shiat right there.

/respect
//literary allusions FTW
 
2012-06-09 11:43:25 AM

ISubmittedThisYesterdayWithAMuchFunnierHeadline: As the father of 3 girls who all love this show, I'd just like to say that Rainbow Dash is a farking jerk. Hey biatch, why you got to hate on turtle so hard? You were only nice to him after he saved you ass.


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-06-09 11:46:31 AM

Foxxinnia: If you let a television show you watch, the type of music you listen to, the political party you align with, the sub-culture they identify with, or the hobby you engage in become the defining aspect of your personality, then that's a bad thing. There are a lot of people with literally no character walking around perceiving life though lenses crafted by commercial entities and advertisement firms. They can't perceive their lives fully or adequately because the manner in which they interpret everything is just a way to sell them goods and services. You're a brony? No, you're not. You're a guy who watches My Little Pony. You're a gamer? No, you're just a person who plays video games. Everyone just stop farking labeling yourselves. Do you need to connect with other human beings? Yeah, we all do. Stop huddling into little sub-groups, searching for humanity though computer monitors, and having all your human interaction colored by something designed to sell you things. Go outside. Talk to people openly and honestly. Then you'll experience actual humanity. I know it's scary, but it's better than a digital hugbox where everyone is just like you and they all like the same things as you.


Most of the time, people are not defining themselves as an entire person based on a show, music genre, hobby, etc. They're just using the label conveniently in the moment to get a point across or to describe an aspect of themselves to others. Since language is linear and limited, we are more or less forced to resort to shorthand, incomplete utterances.

I like a billion things, I dislike a billion other things, and all of the appropriate labels are applicable to me. They do not, can not, encompass the entirety of my being. But please don't be condescending to others who use the labels to self-identify. They are convenient linguistic expressions that convey an element of fact about the person using it on him or herself. It actually makes socializing possible, and the ability to connect with other people easier, but that's an evolutionary/anthropological argument, and I think I'm making a philosophical/linguistic argument so I won't digress.
 
2012-06-09 11:51:52 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Lor M. Ipsum: Came for brownies, leaving...indifferent

/not a brony, but any show with a character named Derpy has my approval

Uh, okay...

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: |
 
2012-06-09 11:52:55 AM
"Bronies":

I'm pretty sure that most of you aren't creepy pedophiles, but it looks that way to a lot of people. Now I realize that you guys "don't care what other people think, MAN!" and all that, but seriously, look at yourselves for a few minutes:

1) You're a grown person, and
2) You watch a show designed for preteen girls, and
3) You brag about it at every opportunity.

You're not some kind of crusader for personal freedom, you just want to belong to a club that's so uncool it's cool. I get that, we've all been through it at one time or another, but most of us grew out of it sometime in high school or shortly thereafter. It's your thing, do what you want to do, but don't complain when people mock you or say you look creepy because you deserve it.

Sincerely,

Everyone
 
2012-06-09 11:55:21 AM

oh_please: "Bronies":

I'm pretty sure that most of you aren't creepy pedophiles, but it looks that way to a lot of people. Now I realize that you guys "don't care what other people think, MAN!" and all that, but seriously, look at yourselves for a few minutes:

1) You're a grown person, and
2) You watch a show designed for preteen girls, and
3) You brag about it at every opportunity.

You're not some kind of crusader for personal freedom, you just want to belong to a club that's so uncool it's cool. I get that, we've all been through it at one time or another, but most of us grew out of it sometime in high school or shortly thereafter. It's your thing, do what you want to do, but don't complain when people mock you or say you look creepy because you deserve it.

Sincerely,

Everyone


Plus wearing crotchless Fluttershy suits really don't help the cause.
 
2012-06-09 11:55:38 AM

oh_please: 3) You brag about it at every opportunity.



No, they don't. A tiny fraction might, just the same way as a small fraction of fans of any show, or sports team, or anything will bring it up too much. Don't assign the bad behavior of a few onto the whole group, because it's stupid to do to ANY group.
 
2012-06-09 11:57:54 AM
I used to be a pony hater...then I took an apple to the knee.

In all seriousness though, I don't have much interest in actually watching the show, but the two episodes recommended to me, the two-parter with Q dressed up as Trogdor's gay cousin, were fantastic. I just can't have a beef with a show that gave me 40 more minutes of Q on TV.

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/Though I might cry if kids today see reruns of Star Trek TNG and they call Q 'human Discord'.
 
2012-06-09 11:58:29 AM

doglover: Mock26: How exactly are they protecting my rights? I find it kind of hard to believe that there are people in Afghanistan who are attempting to circumvent the Constitution of the United States of America.

Muhammad is there. He's a pretty nasty dude. He's not cool like my hommies Muhammad, Muhammad, and Muhammad. No, Muhammad's a bad guy. He's still there. He must be stopped. Even Muhammad thinks so.


Not sure if I understand what you are saying. Is Muhammad a bad guy? Or is he one of the good guys?
 
2012-06-09 11:58:40 AM
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2012-06-09 11:59:17 AM

oh_please: "Bronies":

I'm pretty sure that most of you aren't creepy pedophiles, but it looks that way to a lot of people. Now I realize that you guys "don't care what other people think, MAN!" and all that, but seriously, look at yourselves for a few minutes:

1) You're a grown person, and
2) You watch a show designed for preteen girls, and
3) You brag about it at every opportunity.

You're not some kind of crusader for personal freedom, you just want to belong to a club that's so uncool it's cool. I get that, we've all been through it at one time or another, but most of us grew out of it sometime in high school or shortly thereafter. It's your thing, do what you want to do, but don't complain when people mock you or say you look creepy because you deserve it.

Sincerely,

Everyone


Yeah, well, I think sports fans are farking creepy. All obsessing and wagering their worth and the worth of the players on a game and hating other people for daring to wear a different colored jersey. And basing their entire days, weeks, sometimes lives on largely transitory short events that have no chance of changing history. And sometimes even going so far as to get their children involved, sometimes even in activities that can hurt them permanently! I mean, what's up with that! I'm all for health but come on.

But I'm not going to go on this tirade very time a coworker is WOO FOOTBALL WOO. Nor am I going to think they're terrible people because of it. Sure, I think it's creepy. But hey it's only a small part of who they are.

/there are exceptions
//they're creepier
 
2012-06-09 12:02:07 PM

Satosuke: I used to be a pony hater...then I took an apple to the knee.

In all seriousness though, I don't have much interest in actually watching the show, but the two episodes recommended to me, the two-parter with Q dressed up as Trogdor's gay cousin, were fantastic. I just can't have a beef with a show that gave me 40 more minutes of Q on TV.

[dl.dropbox.com image 450x306]

/Though I might cry if kids today see reruns of Star Trek TNG and they call Q 'human Discord'.


Then buckle up cowboy because John de Lancie is making a documentary about the Brony movement.

Also, he specifically said Discord was NOT Q, but both Q and Discord were John de Lancie.
 
2012-06-09 12:02:33 PM

The_Sponge: xanadian: That's the one I was thinking of. Not to mention the other Mexican mice with Speedy Gonzales, nor whenever something blew up on a cartoon character, they'd always end up in blackface.

For that matter, Tom & Jerry, I think, did the blackface gag more often. I think.


Speaking of Speedy, and IIRC:

Years ago, Cartoon Network pulled the old school Speedy Gonzales cartoons because they wanted to be PC and not offend their Latino viewers.....except that Cartoon Network in Mexico continued to show those classics. What the f*ck?! So it would be offensive to show the in America, but it's cool to show them in Mexico? Damn it so much.


No one stereotypes Mexicans more than Mexican TV shows. And the radio for that matter.

/Telemundo
 
2012-06-09 12:02:55 PM

Molavian: Mock26: doglover: My Little Brony, Friendship is Tragic NSFW


[data.whicdn.com image 500x281]

Seriously though, there's bronies in Afghanistan protecting your right to be haters. This Song has been sung/hummed in an honest to go firefight. I don't know what constitutes manliness, but anything that keeps you calm(er) with hundreds tiny bits of metal speeding towards your dick at 1000+ fps is manly in my book.

How exactly are they protecting my rights? I find it kind of hard to believe that there are people in Afghanistan who are attempting to circumvent the Constitution of the United States of America.

Have you ever actually read the Constitution?


Yes, I have. And there is nothing going on in Afghanistan that violates my rights here in America.
 
2012-06-09 12:04:07 PM
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Not safe for sensitive types.

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She claims to be the world's biggest fan.

I had to google wtf a 'brony' was. My day is now ruined. I watch Adult Swim, so I am ok. I think.

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2012-06-09 12:04:12 PM

LasersHurt: oh_please: 3) You brag about it at every opportunity.



No, they don't. A tiny fraction might, just the same way as a small fraction of fans of any show, or sports team, or anything will bring it up too much. Don't assign the bad behavior of a few onto the whole group, because it's stupid to do to ANY group.


Personally I don't see Bronies post about MLP any more than I see anybody else post about Star Trek, Star Wars, Dragonball Z, sports, etc. In fact IMO they tend to be a whole lot less obnoxious. The only real difference is that MLP is "OMG FOR GIRLZZZZ!!!", and that drives the micro penised "manly men" INSANE. Seriously, as someone mentioned up the thread, we see all kinds of geeks obsessed over kids shows like Transformers, Voltron, Dragonball Z, etc, and they don't inspire NEAR the butthurt that bronies do. I think it's kinda hilarious. Are they redefining masculinity? No, but they drive the macho dudebro dipshiats nuts, and I approve.
 
2012-06-09 12:04:17 PM

Mock26: Not sure if I understand what you are saying. Is Muhammad a bad guy? Or is he one of the good guys?


Which one?
 
2012-06-09 12:05:26 PM
www.determinismsucks.net

Oh, it's this thread - again.

/MLP rawks!
//Standing room only in the dayrooms and lounges at my university when MLP is on.
///Student enrollment is over 25,000, btw.
////Welcome to the future.
 
2012-06-09 12:05:33 PM
My guess is that if the average "Bronie" spent the time at the gym they spend watching MLP, and they put the Mt. Dew down while gaming, they might not feel so social awkward and would suddenly find they didn't need other social awkward males to validate their loneliness.
 
2012-06-09 12:11:12 PM
Maybe some day my secret love of Hello Kitty won't have to be quite so secret. :)
 
2012-06-09 12:11:13 PM

Pocket_Fisherman: My guess is that if the average "Bronie" spent the time at the gym they spend watching MLP, and they put the Mt. Dew down while gaming, they might not feel so social awkward and would suddenly find they didn't need other social awkward males to validate their loneliness.


On the other hand, I don't know too many bronies who need to socialize with each other while drinking alcohol - you know, a drug that lowers inhibition - and watching tv programs of muscular men grouped together showing off how great they are at handling balls of various sizes even while sweaty.
 
2012-06-09 12:11:52 PM

Pocket_Fisherman: My guess is that if the average "Bronie" spent the time at the gym they spend watching MLP, and they put the Mt. Dew down while gaming, they might not feel so social awkward and would suddenly find they didn't need other social awkward males to validate their loneliness.


This "brony" goes to the gym, does not drink Mt. Dew and ...well, OK, I play Diablo III, BUT THAT'S IT.

/never really considered myself a brony
//just think the show is amusing, but nothing to get obsessed over
 
2012-06-09 12:12:15 PM

doglover:

Also, he specifically said Discord was NOT Q, but both Q and Discord were John de Lancie.


But if both Discord and Q are John De Lancie, then by default Discord is Q and vice-versa and so then Discord and Q both exist in reality but maybe they don't and why am I thinking so much about this oh no i've gone crosseyed.
 
2012-06-09 12:15:38 PM

doglover: Seriously though, there's bronies in Afghanistan protecting your right to be haters.


globetribune.info
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
 
2012-06-09 12:16:33 PM

Satosuke: doglover:

Also, he specifically said Discord was NOT Q, but both Q and Discord were John de Lancie.

But if both Discord and Q are John De Lancie, then by default Discord is Q and vice-versa and so then Discord and Q both exist in reality but maybe they don't and why am I thinking so much about this oh no i've gone crosseyed.


I like to think Q is discord and he lets them turn him stone so that he can leave for 100s of years at a stretch and come back when he's bored. The ponies are unknown by the Star Trek people because Q keeps them safely tucked away and in the event anyone DOES find their little planet with it's tiny sun and moon: Celestia (possibly another Q) just beams a Pinkie Pie aboard with a full on sugar high. Take that!
 
2012-06-09 12:16:59 PM
Having perused the thread, I will now add this to the list of things I don't care about.
/who cares
//Not me, I just checked
 
2012-06-09 12:21:08 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-09 12:21:29 PM
My faves

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2012-06-09 12:23:21 PM

Gleeman: [i.imgur.com image 640x360]


twilight.ponychan.net
 
2012-06-09 12:24:54 PM

doglover: Gleeman: [i.imgur.com image 640x360]

[twilight.ponychan.net image 497x795]


a-YUP.
 
2012-06-09 12:25:50 PM

ghare: Brony = troll movement


Possibly partly... but theres also an ironic sincerity to it all.


This is pretty much spot on for everyone whos ever given the show a chance.

chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-09 12:25:54 PM
You know what? Screw it. Liquid Television. Gimme more Dogboy, Aeon Flux (not the shiatmovie), Radboy go...Maxx...
 
2012-06-09 12:26:01 PM
FirstNationalBastard:Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. [...]. - C.S. Lewis

Phillip Pullman has previously ripped Lewis' odd views about childhood and adulthood to shreds. Adulthood is about learning, growing and maturing. Sure, childhood is great, but what sort of weirdo wants children not to learn, not to grow, not to mature.

That said, bronies are clearly pampered, self-indulgent idiots.
 
2012-06-09 12:26:29 PM
Sorry, I only like things that the have been deemed appropriate for my age and gender. Want to join my very fun and socially appropriate club? We mostly watch NBC sitcoms while drinking Michelob Ultra. Mainstream culture rocks!
 
2012-06-09 12:27:28 PM

orbister: FirstNationalBastard:Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. [...]. - C.S. Lewis

Phillip Pullman has previously ripped Lewis' odd views about childhood and adulthood to shreds. Adulthood is about learning, growing and maturing. Sure, childhood is great, but what sort of weirdo wants children not to learn, not to grow, not to mature.

That said, bronies are clearly pampered, self-indulgent idiots.


Clearly? Do tell.
 
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