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assjuice		2012-06-09 10:51:55 AM

If you are a bronie you are not as funny as you think you are. Please stop trying to be funny.

i upped my meds-up yours		2012-06-09 10:52:02 AM

Sim Tree: This whole brony 'debate' is reminiscent of middle school culture, where if you liked Star Trek, you were a 'nerd', and could get beat up; or if you enjoyed classical music, you were therefore 'gay' and could get objects placed in your anus.

FTFY.

Today I shamlessly watch Star Trek, and classical music, and My Little Pony. They are all fun, enjoyable works. I don't need anyone's permission to have fun. This isn't middle school.

Butbutbut Jesus. And Harvey Mansfield. And AMERICA GODDAMMIT. THIS IS STILL AMERICA. Rough men must stand ready to protect your effete proclivities. How can you sleep at night without a broom up your colon in their honor?

/warning: video link does NOT go to YouTube
//a Fark First!

Wasilla Hillbilly		2012-06-09 10:52:23 AM

The show is cute enough, but not nearly funny or entertaining enough to explain this "brony" craze. Disappointing because I had heard from alot of people, including some here, how great it was so I downloading the first season in HD, which took forever on my connection, and couldn't get through the 2nd episode. I'm pretty sure this whole thing is about 98% ironic weirdness and not really people enjoying the cartoon to this extent.

A Terrible Human		2012-06-09 10:52:24 AM

LasersHurt: BronyMedic: A Terrible Human: And no matter what you post I'll always remember you posting about liking clopfics and then what I saw when I googled clopfics.
/There's not enough brain bleach in the world.

Oh, dear, dear friend.

It gets worse.

Much. Much worse. The Grimdark and Hentai side of the fandom has a monopoly on the brain bleach business.

http://30minchallenge.tumblr.com/ (NOT SAFE FOR WORK)

See, this... this is not helping, heh.

I mean I'm capable of seeing that you're just saying "this thing exists." But you have to remember that there are idiots in this world, and they associate the one smallest, weirdest part of everything with the whole.

Muslims are terrorists.
Gays are AIDS-Sluts.
Bronies are sexual deviants.

It's a "them" problem, for sure, but it's not helping to hand them the ammunition.

Wait so you're assuming that I think any of that crap is true just because I don't like the fans of a show that I couldn't watch for more than five minutes because it reminded me of the programming Nick Jr. shows?

/Love and Tolerance as long as you're part of the horse farkers hivemind I guess.

Zizzowop		2012-06-09 10:52:36 AM

skantea: You realize this is just a flashback to the Power Rangers and Pokemon? This is just 20-something dudes who refuse to accept the title/description of "grown-up". We genXers went through the same thing. It all changes when you hit thirty whether you want it to or not.

Uh, Power Rangers and Pokeman is more like Gen Y or whatever came after X. I watched the Thundercats and Transformers thank you very much.

RDixon		2012-06-09 10:53:27 AM

I don't like it one bit.

Lost_in_Oregon		2012-06-09 10:53:41 AM

I'm now concerned that my watching Mr. Rogers with my sons - and enjoying the plotline -- makes me a person you can't trust around your sweaters.

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.		2012-06-09 10:54:16 AM

Bronies is like the official "I'm secretly stuck in the closet but I really want to shout it out" tv show for closet homosexuals. Or at least for the people that aggressively shout "BRONIES!" everywhere.

And sorry, the 3 people I've seen talking about My Little Pony IRL have been confused gay dudes. Like the creepy, I lurk on 4chan type of dudes. Dead serious. So if you're gonna tell me you're straight and watch this shiat, I probably won't believe you.

uttertosh		2012-06-09 10:55:19 AM

Oysterman: Sim Tree: This whole brony 'debate' is reminiscent of middle school culture, where if you liked Star Trek, you were a 'nerd', and could get beat up; or if you enjoyed classical music, you were therefore 'gay'.

Today I shamlessly watch Star Trek, and classical music, and My Little Pony. They are all fun, enjoyable works. I don't need anyone's permission to have fun. This isn't middle school.

The expected audience of Star Trek: Sci-fi fans (neeerrrrrdddsss!!!!!)
The expected audience of Classical Music: Music people
The expected audience of My Little Pony: Little girls.

Bronies aren't changing masculinity; they're showing a lack thereof. It actually makes me feel better about watching anime since there's a level of man-child below me.

Malmö, Sweden. Come at me bro(ny)

doglover		2012-06-09 10:55:57 AM

Also the My Little Pony fan art outpouring has been simply incredible.

I mean it's like nearly the size of most popular shows' bodies of work but in just two years. Message boards update daily with new comic strips and such.

Not to mention that the online fandom has influenced the show itself. That's been happening more and more recently (Fiona and Cake, anyone?) but nothing quite like with Derpy Hooves.

She went from an animation error (one of hundreds) to a character with a nearly complete backstory, characterization, and a profession all from the fans. You're going to see this more and more in the future. I predict My Little Pony is just on of many current hits at the cusp of TV returning to a few good shows made well and played repeatedly as opposed to endless hours of reality crap.

WhippingBoy		2012-06-09 10:56:17 AM

All of this has made me realize that I haven't nearly been exploiting my misogynistic, colonial, straight white male privilege nearly enough. I've vastly overestimated those who would compete against me and their attempts to usurp my power. While these "bronies" are obsessing over a children's cartoon, I will heretofore be directing my energies into staying on top. Sometimes unrestricted personal expression can be a bad thing.

/not joking

EpicElite		2012-06-09 10:56:33 AM

Bronies should be rounded up and executed.

shivashakti		2012-06-09 10:57:12 AM

How fragile is masculinity and how narrow is our definition of it that watching and enjoying a TV show can take it away from you?

LasersHurt		2012-06-09 10:57:20 AM

A Terrible Human: Muslims are terrorists.
Gays are AIDS-Sluts.
Bronies are sexual deviants.

It's a "them" problem, for sure, but it's not helping to hand them the ammunition.

Wait so you're assuming that I think any of that crap is true just because I don't like the fans of a show that I couldn't watch for more than five minutes because it reminded me of the programming Nick Jr. shows?

/Love and Tolerance as long as you're part of the horse farkers hivemind I guess.

No, you idiot, I am not assuming you think Muslims are terrorists. It was a comparison point, not an accusation. Apply salve to your ass to soothe the hurt, then report back when you are capable of reading.

Matthew Keene		2012-06-09 10:57:25 AM

Inigo: I have no problem with people watching MLP.
Making plush pony replicas with functioning genitalia, writing long detailed stories about themselves tonguing Twilight Sparkle's tight quivering tailhole and drawing pictures of Lauren Faust as a pony in bondage sucking dicks is another matter, however.

That sounds like one hell of a lot of fun. Who is doing the pony bondage?

camaroash		2012-06-09 10:57:58 AM

Oh goody. Time to see who's still playing grade school exclusion games.

///The Anarchists meeting will be at 3PM sharp, don't be late, bring your shredded jacket and all Mohawks must be secured firmly upright according to international standards.

Fool_Marquis		2012-06-09 10:58:20 AM

I watch the show. I frequent the message boards, sometimes I even write silly pieces of fan-fiction that spun out of the fandom. All i really have to say is: there are people who don't understand that a piece of creative material can be easily intended for one audience, but have aspects to it that appeals to an entirely separate fan base.

The easiest way to explain it is this: The art is consistently appealing, the animation is well done, the writing is clever, the voice acting isn't phoning it in, the jokes are genuinely funny, the music is full of nods to great composers like Steven Sondheim, the plots make sense, the characters develop, the interaction puts the Bechtel scale to shame, and, most of all:

IT'S NOT REALITY TV.

Honestly. Turn on TV during prime time, you get 99 channels of people being told that their ancient piece of crap is worth a fistful of dollars, or that their being physically attractive but socially retarded makes them a good candidate for a TV series where cameras just follow them around, or that their sense of fashion sucks so we're gonna spend all of $500 to make you look halfway decent for a day or two.

Honestly, these days, anything with a script and some passion is better than 99% of TV, and having a script, passion, and a crew that genuinely cares about what they are doing? ALL of my YES.

doglover		2012-06-09 10:58:24 AM

RDixon: [www.perivision.net image 640x480]

I don't like it one bit.

27.media.tumblr.com

LasersHurt		2012-06-09 10:58:32 AM

Wasilla Hillbilly: The show is cute enough, but not nearly funny or entertaining enough to explain this "brony" craze. Disappointing because I had heard from alot of people, including some here, how great it was so I downloading the first season in HD, which took forever on my connection, and couldn't get through the 2nd episode. I'm pretty sure this whole thing is about 98% ironic weirdness and not really people enjoying the cartoon to this extent.

As someone who watched the cartoon, but doesn't do the Brony thing full-on, let me say: You have got to get past the first two episodes before you draw conclusions. Hell, you have got to get past the first two episodes of ANY show before drawing conclusions.

Crude		2012-06-09 10:59:48 AM

Defining immaturity and possible homosexuality? Yeppers.

If a male hasn't weened himself off of cartoons by the age of 15, then you know that there is a developmental issue at hand.

LasersHurt		2012-06-09 11:01:46 AM

Crude: Defining immaturity and possible homosexuality? Yeppers.

If a male hasn't weened himself off of cartoons by the age of 15, then you know that there is a developmental issue at hand.

You know that's stupid, right? And you're a stupid person for saying it?

It's a cartoon. It's entertainment. People of any age can watch what entertains them. It's okay. And it has nothing to do with gender!

Coco LaFemme		2012-06-09 11:01:54 AM

I don't watch MLP because I'm 30 years old, and I grew out of watching cartoons about 20 years ago. I asked the boyfriend if he knew what a brony was, and he asked me if I meant that African dictator that was all over Twitter for about a minute. So.....clearly he's not into this program either.

That said, who gives a fark what someone else watches on TV? My mom likes watching those Investigation Discovery programs, my dad watches the History Channel, and aside from a few occasional documentaries and sports games, my boyfriend and I don't even watch TV at all. Any program we'd be interested in watching, we watch online. Does that mean anything to any of you? No, it doesn't. Just like some 20-something frat dude watching MLP means jack shiat to me.

Find something else to criticize people about.

Allen. The end.		2012-06-09 11:02:02 AM

BronyMedic: Allen. The end.: In the words of Steve Albini: "All you farking pussies can suck our cocks". These trend-sucking dilletantes (sp.) are marginally human, using pop "culture" as a cheap replacement for personal philosophy, bubble-wrap against interaction with the world, and a desperate attempt to remain a child. I'm sure that they suckle bottles at night as well. "Oh, but it's beer or coffee now. not milk" they may say...but they would be deluding themselves, of course. Gah!

2) How is the Brony Community like other "Avid Fan" groups?
a) It serves a Social function (for most Bronies) of connecting them with other fans outside of their geographic location. (This varies based upon their openness to telling others)
b) It serves as an activity that the fan can focus on (maybe a small thing or a central focus) that provides a sense of meaning to the fans lives (It fills their day and/or gives them a sense of purpose)
3) How is the Brony Fan Community unlike (different from) most other
"Avid Fan" groups?
a) The object of interest (MLP:FiM) is a non-stereotypic interest for the general fan base. Males and adults who like a cartoon associated with a young female population (stereotypic female toy/cartoon). This feature of the fandom likely explains the variety of shocked (It's a joke... right!) and hostile reactions directed at the Brony community by the "haters" and the "uninformed." Anyone who does not take the time to look beyond this feature (>>>FOX Newsb) MLP presents a highly moral and virtuous message allowing it to serve a Guidance function (for many Bronies). This is likely to be the least recognized feature of the Brony phenomenon, but may also represent one of the Brony Fan Community's greatest strengths and potential contributions to emerging web based fan communities. If individuals are going to surf the web and interact on social sites, why not on sites and with people who believe and try to live a theme of Love and Tolerance?
We often ask ...

You missed my followup, didn't you? Also, there has been "research" done about "Bronies"? I don't think so.

darthdrafter		2012-06-09 11:02:07 AM

TheOriginalEd: My problem with Bronies, as with everything else like this is not that they like something I dont like. I dont dont like it. Hell I dont know if I like it because I dont care about it. No, my problem (and I suspect most people's problem with Bronies though they dont know exactly how to quantify it) is that theyre so farking aggressive about how much they like it. Shouting how much they like it in everyones faces forcing it upon everyone and anyone around them. Its almost as if theyre trying just as hard to convince themselves its a worthwhile endeavor as they are to convince everyone else. As with anything like this, I couldnt give three farks if you like it... but shut the fark up and leave the rest of us out of it.

Ah. Just like those jerks who go around telling everyone how wonderful their god and their church is. Have fun praying and stuff but just stop preaching to me because I want no part of your group.

Sports fanatics are kinda like bronies too, only they are accepted for their devotion to little boy things like playing ball and tag.

/Not a religious troll. Just pointing out similarities in groups.
//Not an atheist either. Nothin' wrong with Christ, it's the Christians that eff things up.

Lor M. Ipsum		2012-06-09 11:02:22 AM

Came for brownies, leaving...indifferent

/not a brony, but any show with a character named Derpy has my approval

Lost_in_Oregon		2012-06-09 11:03:32 AM

doglover:

I forget what they're called but they had something similar to "clopfic" back in the 40's with cartoon characters like Popeye and Olive Oyal being bootlegged and then... well you don't want to know but let's just there's always a few weirdos out there who will draw anything having sex with anything else.

I hate you.

Now I'm stuck remembering that third grade joke about how Popeye keeps his dick from rusting by sticking it in Olive Oyal.

Perditax		2012-06-09 11:04:05 AM

WhippingBoy: All of this has made me realize that I haven't nearly been exploiting my misogynistic, colonial, straight white male privilege nearly enough.

Aw, don't be sad! It's ok! I'm sure you exploit your straight white male privilege plenty!

/also not joking
//or am I joking?
///ponies are awesome
////so are slashies!

Dracolich		2012-06-09 11:04:06 AM

A Terrible Human: Sim Tree: It's a complerly knee-jerk response, without reason, just cause, or accomplishing any final purpose. If an adult wants to read Harry Potter, why should anyone care? What are they tring to accomplish?

I don't think anyone really gives a fark if an adult watches cartoons. It's only when the obsession with it completely devours a person is when people start thinking maybe there is something wrong with whatever that person was obsessed with. Imagine a person who nonstop quotes a book,music,video games,tv show,movie or any other form of media. You would get sick of them pretty quickly wouldn't you? Now imagine not being able to get the fark away from that obsessive fark face no matter where you visit on the internet. Backlash to shiat being run into the ground isn't unheard of nor uncommon. They'd be okay if they'd shut the fark up about it.

Yeah, it's just like people who complain about others on the internet! Have you seen these jerks? They're everywhere and they just won't let others be! It's so annoying. They could be doing all kinds of fun things out there, but they literally choose to deride others for their opinions and the fun they're having with them. And it's not even like there's a specific group that annoys them. Hell, they'll go after anyone. As soon as they perceive a fault in others, BAM! they're on it. What do they really stand to gain from it? Are they that insecure with themselves that they need to do this? God, I'm so sick of them. It's like they're obsessed with their own opinions even when they've put no effort into forming them.

uttertosh		2012-06-09 11:04:18 AM

WhippingBoy: /not joking

with your handle, account created 5mins ago, I'd say 'Neigh' to that assertion.

rhiannon		2012-06-09 11:05:04 AM

They call themselves Bronies. That's pretty much all that needs to be said about it.

WhippingBoy		2012-06-09 11:05:05 AM

uttertosh: WhippingBoy: /not joking

with your handle, account created 5mins ago, I'd say 'Neigh' to that assertion.

5 minutes ago?

The_Sponge		2012-06-09 11:05:20 AM

Meh.....I'm indifferent about the whole bronie thing, but I have to say one thing:

I HATE THE MOTHERF*CKING CARE BEARS!!!1!!!1 I have since elementary school, and I will until the day I die.

doglover		2012-06-09 11:05:38 AM

Wasilla Hillbilly: 'm pretty sure this whole thing is about 98% ironic weirdness and not really people enjoying the cartoon to this extent.

You're totally wrong here. Yes, the first two episodes are classic kid's stuff. I couldn't even watch them at first. I got as far as "Twilight Sparkle" and I was like "Her name is what? fark this, I'm going to get a beer."

But then I saw some later episodes like Party of One (where Pinkie Pie goes totally nuts), Lesson Zero (where Twilight goes totally nuts) Applebucking Season (where Applejack works herself into insanity)

I think you get the idea. There's some very adult themes in some of the episodes, and on top of that is crisp animation, original ideas, and some of the most talented women in cartoons today lending their voices.

Fool_Marquis		2012-06-09 11:06:12 AM

Lost_in_Oregon: doglover:

I forget what they're called but they had something similar to "clopfic" back in the 40's with cartoon characters like Popeye and Olive Oyal being bootlegged and then... well you don't want to know but let's just there's always a few weirdos out there who will draw anything having sex with anything else.

I hate you.

Now I'm stuck remembering that third grade joke about how Popeye keeps his dick from rusting by sticking it in Olive Oyal.

Tijuana Bibles. That's what those damn things were called...

And that's where the damn joke probably came from too.

Fun fact: Vintage porn? Now worth money. A Tijuana Bible featuring a Fuller Brush salesman recently sold for a few hundred at auction.

Allen. The end.		2012-06-09 11:06:26 AM

camaroash: Oh goody. Time to see who's still playing grade school exclusion games.

///The Anarchists meeting will be at 3PM sharp, don't be late, bring your shredded jacket and all Mohawks must be secured firmly upright according to international standards.

No way man! Look, I've been HARDCORE since I saw Green Day at Lollapalooza 1995! So I'm gonna show up LATE! Yeah, that's right, you heard me! And don't use the word "sharp" - that means "SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice"! Gotta respect those guys! And as for international standards, I think CRASS covered that whole issue! Peace, love, and anarchy!!! Just doing it for the Cause!

/whew, that was exhausting...

Molavian		2012-06-09 11:06:44 AM

Mock26: doglover: My Little Brony, Friendship is Tragic NSFW

[data.whicdn.com image 500x281]

Seriously though, there's bronies in Afghanistan protecting your right to be haters. This Song has been sung/hummed in an honest to go firefight. I don't know what constitutes manliness, but anything that keeps you calm(er) with hundreds tiny bits of metal speeding towards your dick at 1000+ fps is manly in my book.

How exactly are they protecting my rights? I find it kind of hard to believe that there are people in Afghanistan who are attempting to circumvent the Constitution of the United States of America.

Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

Perditax		2012-06-09 11:06:51 AM

The_Sponge:

I HATE THE MOTHERF*CKING CARE BEARS!!!1!!!1 I have since elementary school, and I will until the day I die.

Word. That show sucked.

Matthew Keene		2012-06-09 11:07:04 AM

Oh, here we go!

fc01.deviantart.net

uttertosh		2012-06-09 11:07:10 AM

WhippingBoy: uttertosh: WhippingBoy: /not joking

with your handle, account created 5mins ago, I'd say 'Neigh' to that assertion.

5 minutes ago?

welcometofark.jpg

cretinbob		2012-06-09 11:07:34 AM

Bronies are gay, nttawwt

uttertosh		2012-06-09 11:07:46 AM

Matthew Keene: Oh, here we go!

[fc01.deviantart.net image 364x289]

Mom??!!??

Dhusk		2012-06-09 11:07:48 AM

1) i love how people on farking fark.com think they're mainstream or *snicker* masculine enough to harshly judge their fellow shut-in nerds.

2) We've all heard this stupid buillshiat before I don't know how many times. When something new and interesting comes out that attracts a large fan following, it always beings out a small minority of frothing vocal haters. Let's recount:

--If you like Rock and Roll, you're a communist(50s + 60s)
--If you like Star Trek/Star Wars, you're a forever virgin nerd(70s)
--If you play DnD, you're a satanist(80s)
--If watch anime, you're an ultra violent rapist(early 90s)
--If you like Rap/Hip Hop, you're a murderous thug(90s)
--If you read Harry Potter, you're a satanist/practice witchcraft (2000s)
--If you like furry art, you rape animals (2000s)
--If you play video games, you're a no job slacker (2000s)
--If you play Animal Crossing, you're a pedophile (2000s)

Please, just once, wake up to how moronic you irrational hatred of a new trend is. Haters have NEVER stopped a trend. Today its Bronies, who by the way must outnumber you haters by at least 20-1. A few years from now it will be something else. Bronies will either be forgotten or subsumed into the mainstream So really, what the hell is the point of wasting all your time trying to tear something down that really harms no one and that you can't possible effect either way?

LasersHurt		2012-06-09 11:07:53 AM

Fool_Marquis: Lost_in_Oregon: doglover:

I forget what they're called but they had something similar to "clopfic" back in the 40's with cartoon characters like Popeye and Olive Oyal being bootlegged and then... well you don't want to know but let's just there's always a few weirdos out there who will draw anything having sex with anything else.

I hate you.

Now I'm stuck remembering that third grade joke about how Popeye keeps his dick from rusting by sticking it in Olive Oyal.

Tijuana Bibles. That's what those damn things were called...

And that's where the damn joke probably came from too.

Fun fact: Vintage porn? Now worth money. A Tijuana Bible featuring a Fuller Brush salesman recently sold for a few hundred at auction.

A friend of mine back in High School found one of the Popeye ones in his Grandfather's shed. It was hilariously racist and cartoon-porny. (If I recall correctly, he went to Africa and boned the Queen with an erection so large it came out her mouth)

xanadian		2012-06-09 11:08:03 AM

I made this. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M PROUD OF IT, SO FARK YOU

i upped my meds-up yours		2012-06-09 11:08:42 AM

shivashakti: How fragile is masculinity and how narrow is our definition of it that watching and enjoying a TV show can take it away from you?

About as narrow as this finger, ladies!
Men are to be tested. Always. Manliness is never taken for granted.
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xanadian		2012-06-09 11:08:42 AM

doglover: RDixon: [www.perivision.net image 640x480]

I don't like it one bit.

[27.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]

Ren and Stimpy was the first thing I thought of when I saw that pony.

doglover		2012-06-09 11:08:49 AM

Crude: If a male hasn't weened himself off of cartoons by the age of 15, then you know that there is a developmental issue at hand.

images.wikia.com

O RLY?

Gleeman		2012-06-09 11:08:51 AM

Coco LaFemme: Find something else to criticize people about.

This x infinity.

Crude: If a male hasn't weened himself off of cartoons by the age of 15, then you know that there is a developmental issue at hand.

i.imgur.com

Roger Ebert disagrees. You're the one missing out, not us.

/tell us about your Mother

The_Sponge		2012-06-09 11:09:25 AM

Crude: If a male hasn't weened himself off of cartoons by the age of 15, then you know that there is a developmental issue at hand.

To hell with that. If an old school Looney Tunes or Tom & Jerry cartoon are on TV, I'm watching it.

Nabb1		2012-06-09 11:09:25 AM

doglover: rudemix: With the glut of reality shows alot of good writers fell to kids programs to eat. I haven't seen this show but I wouldn't be surprised to find it had decent writing in it and was as enjoyable for an adult as a kid. Like Rockos Modern Life.

More like Looney Tunes. It's obstinately clean humor. No sexual innuendo.

But Pinkie Pie in particular has every move in the Warner Brothers playbook. She's got Pepe le Pew's bouncing even! Also, there's nods to the moms and the dads (and now the older fans also)

[everfreeradio.com image 603x328]

Funny. I wonder who fills in the role of convicted pederast Jesus Quintana? Oh, that's right...

/Eight-year-olds, Dude. Eight-year-olds.

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