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2012-06-08 11:19:12 PM
7 votes:

pisceandreamer: Can we get these women an intensive six-month course in krav maga and then let the men see what happens when they get all gropey?


While I'm all in favor of people who grope learning their lesson the hard way (and nothing says the hard way like having your hand broken), it sort of ignores the large social context these sexual harassments take place in. I have a friend who has lived in the Middle East, primarily Egypt and Jordan for years, and it's hard to describe the scope of it. She said all the time on the bus she had people grab her ass, her boobs, all over. Even though she was fluent in Arabic, she avoided learning the dirty words (practically the first thing most foreigner learn in most places) because walking down the street people would call out things she knew were dirty and suggestive and didn't want to know exactly what they were saying.

And women, from the time they are little, are trained to just...take it. To fight back is to risk serious physical violence, and the authorities aren't necessarily going to be on your side when they're called. Now, if you're traveling with a man, no one is going to say anything because *he* would have to defend the honor of *his* woman. But a woman by herself, why she's just a whore, a slut, public property for everyone to abuse.

So good on these women for speaking out, because much more effective than teaching women martial arts is teaching them that they're full people, worthy of respect and equal treatment.
2012-06-08 11:11:18 PM
6 votes:

Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.
2012-06-08 11:31:36 PM
4 votes:

Skyred: Why didn't these women just fight back? I can't say a dude has ever groped me but I figure throwing a fist would stop it


The idiot men tend to stone their women to death for shiat like that, which is one of the reasons I contend that muslims are the most farked up people on the planet.
2012-06-08 10:40:50 PM
4 votes:

cman: Darth_Lukecash: Man, I hate shiat like this.

Well, what can we really do about it? Is it our business to begin with?


All of humanity is our business. All I can do is voice my displeasure.

Ultimately Egyptians have to work it out themselves. Can force the change, it has to happen from within.

I just hate seeing it.
2012-06-09 02:30:11 AM
3 votes:
We need a "DERP" button up there with the Smart and Funny.
2012-06-08 11:34:21 PM
3 votes:

cig-mkr: What is the mind set of the men? If they allow another man to fondle their "property" what kind of men can they be?
How far off the deep end would you go if someone was groping your mom, sister, wife, daughter?
And I say property because that's the status of women in the third world.
How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?


Basically, you can do what you want with their women, but if you dare touch a muslim mans little boy or donkey, you gonna have problems. Again, MOST farkED UP PEOPLE ON THE PLANET!!
2012-06-08 11:30:58 PM
3 votes:
What is the mind set of the men? If they allow another man to fondle their "property" what kind of men can they be?
How far off the deep end would you go if someone was groping your mom, sister, wife, daughter?
And I say property because that's the status of women in the third world.
How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?
2012-06-08 11:12:36 PM
3 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.


Seconded.
2012-06-09 09:07:39 AM
2 votes:

Troublesome Strumpet: Buffet: Troublesome Strumpet: Buffet: Sexual harassment? The women (creatures) in that photo have NOTHING to worry about!!!

You're an asshole.

Can you explain why Amber? Not disputing you. Merely curious.

First off: Amber?

Second, that is a belief that ignores the foundation of sexual assault and harassment: it's about power. Sexual abuse and all its permutations are a form of bullying. In this particular case, it's an attempt to put those "uppity womenfolk" in their place. Looks and attraction have nothing to do with it. So when someone who may not be conventionally attractive- overweight or old or whatever- is harassed or raped, and people blow them off as trying to get attention when they try to talk about it or report it, it ignores the actual driving force behind such assaults and makes it harder for victims to get the help they need, and for this sort of thing to be stopped.


Don't bother trying to explain such things to mouth breathers. Any "adult" that has to have that explained to them is either too stupid or too much of a childish misogynist to ever get it.
2012-06-09 08:46:02 AM
2 votes:

Buffet: Troublesome Strumpet: Buffet: Sexual harassment? The women (creatures) in that photo have NOTHING to worry about!!!

You're an asshole.

Can you explain why Amber? Not disputing you. Merely curious.


First off: Amber?

Second, that is a belief that ignores the foundation of sexual assault and harassment: it's about power. Sexual abuse and all its permutations are a form of bullying. In this particular case, it's an attempt to put those "uppity womenfolk" in their place. Looks and attraction have nothing to do with it. So when someone who may not be conventionally attractive- overweight or old or whatever- is harassed or raped, and people blow them off as trying to get attention when they try to talk about it or report it, it ignores the actual driving force behind such assaults and makes it harder for victims to get the help they need, and for this sort of thing to be stopped.
2012-06-08 11:59:28 PM
2 votes:

Skyred: crab66: Skyred: Why didn't these women just fight back? I can't say a dude has ever groped me but I figure throwing a fist would stop it

Are you really that ignorant?

If you suggest a fallacy with my comment I'm suggesting you're sexist


It is sexist to consider reasons why women who are second-class citizens under the law would react differently than you in this situation?
2012-06-08 11:57:17 PM
2 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: cman: Darth_Lukecash: Man, I hate shiat like this.

Well, what can we really do about it? Is it our business to begin with?

All of humanity is our business. All I can do is voice my displeasure.

Ultimately Egyptians have to work it out themselves. Can force the change, it has to happen from within.

I just hate seeing it.


Unfortunately it is the ugly side of their ingrained culture. They oppresse the hell out of women yet they are one of the biggest watchers of porn. Their overly aggressive treatment of women is beyond maddening and it's back water as it gets.
2012-06-08 11:52:05 PM
2 votes:

Mildot: Looking over this thread, I can see I am not the only one who is being a bit insensitive to the plight of these women, but so far I am the only one whos been told to go fark myself. HELLO PEOPLE, can we act like Obama and spread the wealth a bit?


Go fark yourself.
2012-06-08 11:52:04 PM
2 votes:
After the marchers entered a crowded corner of the square, a group of men waded into the women, heckling them and groping them.

It should be legal to murder people like that. Farking animals.
2012-06-08 11:44:18 PM
2 votes:

cig-mkr: How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?


THAT part is very easy to understand. Just sit your butt down and watch the USA become the repressed regressive backwater of Earth in just a few short decades. It isn't even taking 1000 years. First it will be abortions, and birth control, and public shaming (as we are already doing). Then we will stop electing women (already well underway in the USA), then back down the corporate ladder (also well underway). Equal pay trials have already been tried and failed.... That is just 5 years.

The USA is already dropped from world leader status in every measure of women's rights. At this pace we will pass Egypt in about a generation.
2012-06-08 11:32:20 PM
2 votes:
well, the US did nothing when the Taliban took over in Afghanistan because it was none of our business. Then when Al Quaeda used the safety of Afghanistan to plan and implement the WTC attacks everyone wrung their hands and said "Why didn't we do anything before they attacked us?" . So Bush attacked Iraq, and everyone wrung their hands and said "Why are we doing this? They haven't attacked us."
So, now here we are again. Let the hand wringing begin.
2012-06-08 11:24:40 PM
2 votes:
You'll all have to excuse me if I don't shed a tear over this. Muslims, as a group, are the most farked up people on the planet and nothing we say or do short eradicating them from the planet is going to fix them anytime soon.

Now, Im going to go back to farking myself... could someone please post some picts of hot egyption women???
2012-06-08 11:09:14 PM
2 votes:

pisceandreamer: Can we get these women an intensive six-month course in krav maga and then let the men see what happens when they get all gropey?


I was going to make a snarky comment, but apparently the story comes from Egypt where this is a real, serious problem and not a minor annoyance, so I'm not feeling it.
2012-06-08 10:11:56 PM
2 votes:
Man, I hate shiat like this.
2012-06-08 08:59:15 PM
2 votes:
Can we get these women an intensive six-month course in krav maga and then let the men see what happens when they get all gropey?
2012-06-09 05:31:02 PM
1 votes:

PillsHere: RoyBatty: Why do so many women hate men?

Because so many men have raped, harassed, molested, beaten, murdered, enslaved, disrespected, etc. so many women? The real question is why do these things continue to happen?


But far more men have loved, sacrificed for, cared for, fought for, befriended, supported, defended, been a father to, and utterly respected so many women. The real question is why is this always conveniently ignored?
2012-06-09 03:00:10 PM
1 votes:

cman: Darth_Lukecash: Man, I hate shiat like this.

Well, what can we really do about it? Is it our business to begin with?


Well as a human, I feel like I have a vested interest in human rights and justice.

So in a word, yes.
2012-06-09 02:47:36 PM
1 votes:

Need_MindBleach: Duh. All racism, sexism, or other problems in third-world countries are always the fault of Western imperialists. Places like the Arab world were scholarly, rich, egalitarian paradises before Westerners came along and infected them with their evil Western ideas like sexism, racism, and wealth inequality.


Obviously you've never even looked into the history of the region at all, if your kneejerk reaction is to bleat about blaming western imperialists. There were many scholarly, rich, egalitarian places (for the time) in the Arab world... before the mongols butchered everything on their way to Europe. The Ottomans eventually re-established civilization after a period of instability and conquest, and while they stagnated after a while, the early 20th century was actually marked by a rise in democratic, western-oriented fervor, complete with advanced schools and imported technology. There's no question that in many places it wasn't still a barbaric place, but that's just as true in the west. The reforms actually weakened the empire enough that combined with the mistake of allying with Germany in WW1, the allied winners crushed the turks, took their land, looted and pillaged its resources until they lost it again the WW2, and left it as a gigantic power vacuum.

So yes, you can blame the British and French for turning the relative stability of the Ottoman empire into fractured cities full of angry, hungry people ready to turn to fundamentalism and extremism. You can't blame the US (not until the Shah incident, and even then only partially). As time has passed, you can only blame the citizens who keep empowering leaders who keep them angry and desperately poor, generation after generation, but I guess it's tough when everyone who sees through the ruse is shot immediately.

I was only talking about history, and everyone involved in that history is dead and we can only deal with consequences. So lern2history before you knee-jerk that I'm some kind of mush-brain hippie spouting tripe like "we must let them do to us what our great-grandfathers' leaders did to them, it's only fair."
2012-06-09 02:16:25 PM
1 votes:

Polyhazard: Tatterdemalian: Kymry: Why do so many men hate women?

I just don't farking understand it.

I just don't.

Because you want them to, so you instinctively pick apart every word and action that comes from a man, looking for some sign that he hates women. Naturally, you usually find one, though most people would find the leaps of logic needed to follow your signs highly questionable.

Indeed... there are no racists or sexists any more, and anyone who points out apparent racism or sexism is simply demonstrating how racist/sexist they are for even thinking about it.

People are just too sensitive and PC anymore. I mean, damn... can't a group of men gather in the public square to physically assault and intimidate women who are speaking out about their lack of legal and social protections from sexual violence without some liberal feminist nag crying "misogyny?"


I think the response was in regards to the "so many" part. No one is arguing against the fact that "some" men hate women (and "some" women hate men); rather that the systemic hatred of women by "so many" men doesn't really exist outside of Gender Studies 101. Of course, any man that defends himself is by definition "misogynistic", so my opinion is obviously evidence of my hatred of women.
2012-06-09 02:06:20 PM
1 votes:

Polyhazard: People are just too sensitive and PC anymore. I mean, damn... can't a group of men gather in the public square to physically assault and intimidate women who are speaking out about their lack of legal and social protections from sexual violence without some liberal feminist nag crying "misogyny this is exactly what all men in the USA and on FARK do?"


FTFY.
2012-06-09 01:25:56 PM
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: pisceandreamer: Can we get these women an intensive six-month course in krav maga and then let the men see what happens when they get all gropey?

While I'm all in favor of people who grope learning their lesson the hard way (and nothing says the hard way like having your hand broken), it sort of ignores the large social context these sexual harassments take place in. I have a friend who has lived in the Middle East, primarily Egypt and Jordan for years, and it's hard to describe the scope of it. She said all the time on the bus she had people grab her ass, her boobs, all over. Even though she was fluent in Arabic, she avoided learning the dirty words (practically the first thing most foreigner learn in most places) because walking down the street people would call out things she knew were dirty and suggestive and didn't want to know exactly what they were saying.

And women, from the time they are little, are trained to just...take it. To fight back is to risk serious physical violence, and the authorities aren't necessarily going to be on your side when they're called. Now, if you're traveling with a man, no one is going to say anything because *he* would have to defend the honor of *his* woman. But a woman by herself, why she's just a whore, a slut, public property for everyone to abuse.

So good on these women for speaking out, because much more effective than teaching women martial arts is teaching them that they're full people, worthy of respect and equal treatment.


This, so much. As much as their change has to come from within them, watching a culture do this is disgusting.
2012-06-09 01:02:20 PM
1 votes:

Kymry: Why do so many men hate women?

I just don't farking understand it.

I just don't.


Because you want them to, so you instinctively pick apart every word and action that comes from a man, looking for some sign that he hates women. Naturally, you usually find one, though most people would find the leaps of logic needed to follow your signs highly questionable.
2012-06-09 12:40:31 PM
1 votes:
Why do so many men hate women?

I just don't farking understand it.

I just don't.
2012-06-09 07:50:06 AM
1 votes:

Skyred: Why didn't these women just fight back? I can't say a dude has ever groped me but I figure throwing a fist would stop it


That would only work in America where the government protects women. Those women would simply get the shiat kicked out of them then groped anyway. American women have delusions of superiority supported by law, not nature.
2012-06-09 05:58:21 AM
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: pisceandreamer: Can we get these women an intensive six-month course in krav maga and then let the men see what happens when they get all gropey?

While I'm all in favor of people who grope learning their lesson the hard way (and nothing says the hard way like having your hand broken), it sort of ignores the large social context these sexual harassments take place in. I have a friend who has lived in the Middle East, primarily Egypt and Jordan for years, and it's hard to describe the scope of it. She said all the time on the bus she had people grab her ass, her boobs, all over. Even though she was fluent in Arabic, she avoided learning the dirty words (practically the first thing most foreigner learn in most places) because walking down the street people would call out things she knew were dirty and suggestive and didn't want to know exactly what they were saying.

And women, from the time they are little, are trained to just...take it. To fight back is to risk serious physical violence, and the authorities aren't necessarily going to be on your side when they're called. Now, if you're traveling with a man, no one is going to say anything because *he* would have to defend the honor of *his* woman. But a woman by herself, why she's just a whore, a slut, public property for everyone to abuse.

So good on these women for speaking out, because much more effective than teaching women martial arts is teaching them that they're full people, worthy of respect and equal treatment.


msnbcmedia4.msn.comwww.peopleofcolororganize.com

Geez, you guys can't hold a "please don't turn women into legal non-entities" protest without everyone getting all molest-y on you?

Over here, we have Slut Walks. SLUT WALKS. SLUT WALKS! And it all goes over mostly without a hitch and everyone goes home happy except for a few ultraconservatives who are both frowning and very confused but no one gets spat upon, that being the point.

Just an example to illustrate the difference here.
2012-06-09 03:39:07 AM
1 votes:

Buffet: Sexual harassment? The women (creatures) in that photo have NOTHING to worry about!!!


You're an asshole.
2012-06-09 02:03:47 AM
1 votes:

cig-mkr: How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?


Progressives (hence the name) tend to see history as forward progress towards enlightenment and greater civil rights for all human beings. Conservatives, on the other hand, tend to see history as a slow decline from a golden age into depravity and lawlessness. Neither view is really true. History tends to be cyclical. The way "minority" groups such as women, blacks, and Jews have been treated over the centuries show this, with the situation getting better, then worse, then better again.

You can see it in the USA now, with social conservatives trying to take away hard-won civil rights such as reproductive choice. Even a commentator on Fox claiming women shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's scary to think all this progress could be lost, but the danger is real, in the USA, in Egypt, everywhere. It's like swimming upstream.
2012-06-09 01:24:22 AM
1 votes:

redhook: IHadMeAVision: What amazes me about Middle Eastern culture (or maybe just Arab) is that chivalry simply doesn't exist. People from all over the world disrespect the crap out of women in different ways, but only a Middle Eastern dude would have his wife carry all the crap they just bought out to the car, then hop in the passenger seat while she loads all the crap in the trunk. I bet he's taking a nap while she drives home the way it's going. Not even a Muslim thing, Jews and Christians from the region that live here in NYC seem to be just as bad.

/used to work in retail, and it's just one of those things, like "Hasidic Jews open boxes no matter how many times you tell them not to" and "Asian kids love Thomas the Tank Engine"

It's illegal for women to drive under Islamic Law.


Not so. Since there is no driving in the Quran, there is no prohibition on women drivers. Saudi Arabia has a ban that they justify based on the idea that it's a gateway drug to other things that are against Islamic law, but as far as I know they are alone in having that rule on the books.
2012-06-09 01:20:27 AM
1 votes:

RoyBatty: foxyshadis: cig-mkr: What is the mind set of the men? If they allow another man to fondle their "property" what kind of men can they be?
How far off the deep end would you go if someone was groping your mom, sister, wife, daughter?
And I say property because that's the status of women in the third world.
How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?

It takes a hundred years to raise a civilization and one to utterly destroy it. They were utterly destroyed by WW2 and the colonial period, and while some parts are in year 20 or 50 of new civilization, others keep reliving that one year every year.

Are you saying the problems with the Arab World with respect to women are due to WWII and British colonialism?

I apologize, but I was taught by the LA Unified School District and am often dumbfounded by my ignorance. Regardless, that seems to be a stretch for me, and honestly I wouldn't know the first place to begin to begin to google that up.

May I ask you for some citations to help me understand?

Thank you,


Duh. All racism, sexism, or other problems in third-world countries are always the fault of Western imperialists. Places like the Arab world were scholarly, rich, egalitarian paradises before Westerners came along and infected them with their evil Western ideas like sexism, racism, and wealth inequality.
2012-06-09 01:10:35 AM
1 votes:
But...but Quran says that men and women are equal! Are you saying that the Quran isn't being followed?

http://www.submission.info/perspectives/women/equality.html
2012-06-09 01:08:05 AM
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: pisceandreamer: Can we get these women an intensive six-month course in krav maga and then let the men see what happens when they get all gropey?

While I'm all in favor of people who grope learning their lesson the hard way (and nothing says the hard way like having your hand broken), it sort of ignores the large social context these sexual harassments take place in. I have a friend who has lived in the Middle East, primarily Egypt and Jordan for years, and it's hard to describe the scope of it. She said all the time on the bus she had people grab her ass, her boobs, all over. Even though she was fluent in Arabic, she avoided learning the dirty words (practically the first thing most foreigner learn in most places) because walking down the street people would call out things she knew were dirty and suggestive and didn't want to know exactly what they were saying.

And women, from the time they are little, are trained to just...take it. To fight back is to risk serious physical violence, and the authorities aren't necessarily going to be on your side when they're called. Now, if you're traveling with a man, no one is going to say anything because *he* would have to defend the honor of *his* woman. But a woman by herself, why she's just a whore, a slut, public property for everyone to abuse.

So good on these women for speaking out, because much more effective than teaching women martial arts is teaching them that they're full people, worthy of respect and equal treatment.


But...but...aren't women in the Middle East covered from head to toe to prevent this sort of thing from happening? Shouldn't the Middle East be the site of the least amount of sexual harassment, given that women there are forced to cover more skin than anywhere else in the world? Wait, it isn't?

Why, it's almost as if culturally blaming sexual assault on women dressing too sluttily doesn't decrease the amount of sexual assault that goes on, and in fact probably increases it. Who would have thought?
2012-06-09 01:03:27 AM
1 votes:

Lee Bruns: well, the US did nothing when the Taliban took over in Afghanistan because it was none of our business. Then when Al Quaeda used the safety of Afghanistan to plan and implement the WTC attacks everyone wrung their hands and said "Why didn't we do anything before they attacked us?" . So Bush attacked Iraq, and everyone wrung their hands and said "Why are we doing this? They haven't attacked us."
So, now here we are again. Let the hand wringing begin.


The US did nothing because the Russian threat in the region had been expelled. We simply packed up and left.
2012-06-09 12:58:15 AM
1 votes:

sleeps in trees: ciberido: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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You read a comment like this, and you wonder, "Is this an attempt at humor, or does her really think men attack women in this manner out of sexual desire?"

In other words, are you a misogynist or just an idiot?

I like to be generous and say both. No need to pigeon hole people.


Actually, I like to think I'm a realist. These women are going to have to take all this shiat and a whole lot more, then do some serious ass kicking or as I said earlier in the thread, kill them as they sleep, before any meaningful change will come to this part of the world. Sadly, I do see any of that happening anytime soon. They truly seem to want to take their society (if you can call it that) back to the 12th century. Again, MUSLIMS ARE THE MOST fark UP PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.

So go ahead, call me names, but I didn't do this to them, I am just smart enough to know when something is beyond hope (and change).
2012-06-09 12:53:05 AM
1 votes:

cig-mkr: What is the mind set of the men? If they allow another man to fondle their "property" what kind of men can they be?
How far off the deep end would you go if someone was groping your mom, sister, wife, daughter?
And I say property because that's the status of women in the third world.
How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?


It takes a hundred years to raise a civilization and one to utterly destroy it. They were utterly destroyed by WW2 and the colonial period, and while some parts are in year 20 or 50 of new civilization, others keep reliving that one year every year.
2012-06-09 12:50:20 AM
1 votes:
I would be concerned, but this is far away and there are repressed white women in my own country (ie, they aren't CEO's yet).
2012-06-09 12:33:51 AM
1 votes:

Lee Bruns: well, the US did nothing when the Taliban took over in Afghanistan because it was none of our business. Then when Al Quaeda used the safety of Afghanistan to plan and implement the WTC attacks everyone wrung their hands and said "Why didn't we do anything before they attacked us?" . So Bush attacked Iraq, and everyone wrung their hands and said "Why are we doing this? They haven't attacked us."
So, now here we are again. Let the hand wringing begin.


WTF are you talking about?

This thread went from derpy to incoherent in a hurry.
2012-06-09 12:30:28 AM
1 votes:

Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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You read a comment like this, and you wonder, "Is this an attempt at humor, or does her really think men attack women in this manner out of sexual desire?"

In other words, are you a misogynist or just an idiot?
2012-06-09 12:21:22 AM
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: Watch them get divorced by text message, and their former husbands find newer models.


Three years before New Wife, even if she got married at 14, recognizes the way she's treated and connects with the Queen's Road (that's what we're calling it) to get out of there. Maybe five at the outside. I'll bet you.

Mildot: Middle East Men perfer farking small boys and donkeys and are not smart enough to see the problem until it is far too late.


So we lose a group of people that refuses to change its attitudes and give fellow humans respect, no matter their gender. If it happens that way, . . . I'm not seeing a problem.

Move to the West, Muslim women. We did away with the Three-Fifths Compromise a long time ago. Despite a few bumps we still have to maneuver, you could be ACTUAL PEOPLE here.
2012-06-09 12:20:08 AM
1 votes:
There should be a Religion of Peace™ tag.
2012-06-09 12:08:21 AM
1 votes:
Fun idea: set up a series of halfway houses for female immigrants from Muslim nations, see if the State Dept. will class them as refugees due to incidents like this one, have the halfway houses assist them with the immigration process.

Move the women out of these nations and see how the men feel about being in Japan's shoes, without the forward culture, fairer climate, and first-world infrastructure that Japan at least has halfway going for it. Let the men watch their families die out because they couldn't appreciate the women who helped them make those families as honest, real, live people.

It's a pipe dream, but isn't it a nice one?
2012-06-09 12:03:30 AM
1 votes:
Look biatches you are tougher and stronger than this. You fight back. You quietly manipulate and slowly fark up their lives. You raise your children with your beliefes, your values and respect for you as a mother, sister, and daughter.

It is a long road but this time around we are all watching. Yeah we are the "weaker" sex but we are farking evil.
2012-06-08 11:54:28 PM
1 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.


Because sexual assault and harassment are totally about simple attraction, not power.

The woman in TFA who suggested that this organized public molestation was an attempt to politically intimidate females who are rocking the boat is obviously confused. Maybe she just needs a good dickin', eh?
2012-06-08 11:52:10 PM
1 votes:
Religion of rape (tm)
2012-06-08 11:49:07 PM
1 votes:

cig-mkr: What is the mind set of the men? If they allow another man to fondle their "property" what kind of men can they be?
How far off the deep end would you go if someone was groping your mom, sister, wife, daughter?
And I say property because that's the status of women in the third world.
How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?


Because that civilization has been dead for quite some time. What we have now in Egypt is the civilization that killed off the previous one. The only thing they have in common is geography, and a little DNA.
2012-06-08 11:46:13 PM
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Skyred: crab66: Skyred: Why didn't these women just fight back? I can't say a dude has ever groped me but I figure throwing a fist would stop it

Are you really that ignorant?

If you suggest a fallacy with my comment I'm suggesting you're sexist


Would you still fight back knowing that laying hands on a man was grounds for death by stoning? Yea, didn't think so. We're not sexist, we just know what they do to their wimminn over there.
2012-06-08 11:42:09 PM
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Mildot: cig-mkr: What is the mind set of the men? If they allow another man to fondle their "property" what kind of men can they be?
How far off the deep end would you go if someone was groping your mom, sister, wife, daughter?
And I say property because that's the status of women in the third world.
How can a civilization that had a thousand year jump start on us, be so backward?

Basically, you can do what you want with their women, but if you dare touch a muslim mans little boy or donkey, you gonna have problems. Again, MOST farkED UP PEOPLE ON THE PLANET!!


Anyone that wipes their ass with their hand, IS farkED UP!
2012-06-08 11:36:38 PM
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Lee Bruns: well, the US did nothing when the Taliban took over in Afghanistan because it was none of our business.


Actually, I would say after decades of propping up a brutally oppressive regime in Egypt, pretty much for the sole purpose of keeping Israel happy, what happens in Egypt is our business. It's not like we're some innocent observer here.
2012-06-08 11:31:40 PM
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Skyred: Why didn't these women just fight back? I can't say a dude has ever groped me but I figure throwing a fist would stop it


Are you really that ignorant?
2012-06-08 11:29:50 PM
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Why didn't these women just fight back? I can't say a dude has ever groped me but I figure throwing a fist would stop it
2012-06-08 11:24:36 PM
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Skyred: StreetlightInTheGhetto: El Freak: God Is My Co-Pirate: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourtheded


Ditto.
2012-06-08 11:19:20 PM
1 votes:
What the fark is wrong with people? Fark.
2012-06-08 11:17:15 PM
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StreetlightInTheGhetto: El Freak: God Is My Co-Pirate: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.

Seconded.

Thirded.


Fourtheded
2012-06-08 11:15:38 PM
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El Freak: God Is My Co-Pirate: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.

Seconded.


Thirded.
2012-06-08 11:15:24 PM
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Laura Logan will tell you all about the men of Egypt and how bad they are.
2012-06-08 11:15:17 PM
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God Is My Co-Pirate: Mildot: Are these the women that got all touched upon? Wow, Egyption men sure aren't pickey.

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fark yourself, dipshiat.


Wow someone is a bit over touchy on this subject... or hasn't been touchyed enough lately.
 
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