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(WRCB)   The Lord said to make a joyful noise. He just didn't mean doing it for five hours at a time every Sunday as loud as you possibly can. Plus, you probably shouldn't be "goofing off and cussing" when police show up   ( wrcbtv.com) divider line
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2012-06-09 01:15:22 AM  

Waldo Pepper: there is nothing wrong with anyone fighting for what they believe even if they are wrong.


www.resistanceisfruitful.com
 
2012-06-09 01:15:40 AM  
Waldo, Sorry I can't quote you this time through Fark, but you kind of insinuated I demeaned you. Sorry that came off that way, I was just inserting my interpretation of how I see the bible.

You're obviously devout to your way. I can't demean that.

I was wondering, Do you think it's right for Christians to legislate against gays?
 
2012-06-09 01:16:20 AM  

SuperNinjaToad: MAYORBOB: I love the incredible arrogance of, "I was doing this on my property."

Yeah but the noise you were making didn't stay on your property, Tammy Faye.

....and yet double standards (giant loud speakers, 5 times azan daily) are not only applied but actually encouraged for fear of offending the minorities in the good ole USA.

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Islamic Center, Dearborn MI


Can I sue the three churches in town that ring their bells, which can be heard halfway across town, on the hour?
 
2012-06-09 01:17:15 AM  

Waldo Pepper: eddiesocket: Waldo Pepper: no different that the one night stand the chick gets knocked up and she decides to have the baby and the man has to pay child support for a kid he doesn't want.

Holy shiat.

Seriously? Men shouldn't have to pay child support? (Provided of course, they "didn't want" the kid?) You're seriously advocating that? I thought the poster above was being harsh when he said don't procreate, but I had no idea until just now how morally abhorrent you are.

did I say men shouldn't pay child support? dang nothing like making an issue out of nothing. i simply said it is unfair the a man has to pay child support if he doesn't want the kid but the has no say if the woman doesn't want to have the kid and he does. how is that abhorrent? I also said in the "one night stand context"


If you don't know how that's abhorrent, i honestly don't know what to say to you. You're even pro-life. Which means if a man and a woman have a one-night stand and the woman gets pregnant you believe it is wrong and should be illegal for her to have an abortion and that it is unfair for the man to pay child-support. Do I have that right?
 
2012-06-09 01:18:17 AM  

Waldo Pepper: so then what do you believe?


I believe that he who is without sin shall cast the first stone. When you can find someone who is without sin, I'll show you someone qualified to fight against things that you believe are wrong.
 
2012-06-09 01:18:59 AM  
I can appreciate blasting some good old Johnny Cash, but back in the day my Sunday-morning revelry was performed by Les Claypool and his various troupes.
 
2012-06-09 01:19:37 AM  
Finding Waldo used to be hard. Now he screams his opinions from the rooftop and then denies he ever said that at all because lalalala.
 
2012-06-09 01:21:42 AM  

Waldo Pepper: so you call what I believe a fairy tale and at no point have I demeaned what you believe by calling it a name


If nothing else, you have a point here. Fark can sometimes get nasty in its anti-Christian rhetoric and name calling is rude.

Waldo Pepper: I doubt animals are gay more like simply horny but honestly I don't care about what animals do sexually.


You should do some reading on the subject, There are animals that are sexually active exclusively with animals of the same gender, even when the opposite sex is around. They even form relationships. There were two gay penguins in a zoo that were pretty popular until the zoo split them up and forced them to procreate. (I'm not some animal nut, I'm not saying the zoo did anything wrong, just reporting what happened)_.
 
2012-06-09 01:29:38 AM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

Bonobo monkeys use homosexuality as part of their social life, not just because they are horny.
 
2012-06-09 01:31:45 AM  

Waldo Pepper: there is nothing wrong with anyone fighting for what they believe even if they are wrong. on either side.


Is there anything wrong with followers of one religious belief actively working to control the daily lives of those who do not share that same religious belief?
 
2012-06-09 01:34:49 AM  
If you think christians advocating against gay marriage has nothing to do with hate against a group then I know quite a few folk who would like to have a word with you. Obama doesn't even matter. Denying civil rights to a group whose sexual orientation is different is still denying civil rights. It isn't easier to say standing up against gay rights is easier since people have been denying it for a very long time. I have an aunt who is gay and over 60 years old and struggled with coming out for decades specifically because she knew people would absolutely destroy her self-esteem for not being what they think is normal.
 
2012-06-09 01:37:28 AM  

Waldo Pepper: do you fight against things you believe are wrong?


Does Jesus teach that we should fight against people who hold different opinions?
 
2012-06-09 01:40:54 AM  

EchoMike: What a joyful noise may sound like: Link


That was funny. That was like a lot of funny.
 
2012-06-09 01:41:01 AM  

Waldo Pepper: eddiesocket: Waldo Pepper: eddiesocket: Waldo Pepper: no different that the one night stand the chick gets knocked up and she decides to have the baby and the man has to pay child support for a kid he doesn't want.

Holy shiat.

Seriously? Men shouldn't have to pay child support? (Provided of course, they "didn't want" the kid?) You're seriously advocating that? I thought the poster above was being harsh when he said don't procreate, but I had no idea until just now how morally abhorrent you are.

did I say men shouldn't pay child support? dang nothing like making an issue out of nothing. i simply said it is unfair the a man has to pay child support if he doesn't want the kid but the has no say if the woman doesn't want to have the kid and he does. how is that abhorrent? I also said in the "one night stand context"

If you don't know how that's abhorrent, i honestly don't know what to say to you. You're even pro-life. Which means if a man and a woman have a one-night stand and the woman gets pregnant you believe it is wrong and should be illegal for her to have an abortion and that it is unfair for the man to pay child-support. Do I have that right?

only from a rights stand point yes you have it wrong. why should a woman have more rights than a man? if all things are equal why does the man have no choice? that is all i'm saying.


Things are not equal between men and women involving children. Women have more rights because they are the one stuck with the kid most of the time and they birth the child. Natural law and all.
 
2012-06-09 01:41:25 AM  

Waldo Pepper: only from a rights stand point yes you have it wrong. why should a woman have more rights than a man? if all things are equal why does the man have no choice? that is all i'm saying.


Why should an opposite-sex couple have more rights than a same-sex couple? If all things are equal why does the same-sex couple have no choice?
 
2012-06-09 01:43:45 AM  

Waldo Pepper: fredzilla: Waldo, Sorry I can't quote you this time through Fark, but you kind of insinuated I demeaned you. Sorry that came off that way, I was just inserting my interpretation of how I see the bible.

You're obviously devout to your way. I can't demean that.

I was wondering, Do you think it's right for Christians to legislate against gays?

thank you. I'm sort of amazed I got no love for not having "in God we trust" on the money. lol

if a Christian legislate against Gays purely on their belief in God's word and without hatred for the person/people then I have no issue with it. This is what is great about this country with have the right to fight for what one believes. unfortunately most who legislate against or for anything in this Country have other motives usually revolving around greed, power or both. I feel Obama coming out for gay marriage was a political move and I feel he could careless about gays except it advances his power. I could be wrong. (I don't either candidate ).

i honestly don't know what is the right answer on gay marriage. I think I've indicate what all other areas there is no issue. It is easier to say "sure all should have the same rights" then to stand up and say No I don't feel this is right. if it becomes legal in virginia and when my cousin invites me to his wedding I will go and have a great time and be very happy for him and his spouse. We are both Christian and when we die and go to heaven if being gay is wrong that is between him and God, I will be too busy answering for all my sins especially clicking all those links on the foobies section.


LOL!

For me, I don't like laws that are bigoted that cavort under the guise of religious basis. Nowhere have I seen an example of non religious people lobbying against gays. Like I said, (and I realize you don't have a beef with) a person's gay sexual preference shouldn't preclude them from having the same rights from a straight person. If there is a law that stipulates marriage is defined as being between a man and woman only, then it has a basis that is not equal for gay people who want to get married. It's a human rights issue. People might not agree with it, but all people should be afforded equal rights.

Well, it's been a long day and I must go to bed now. But thanks as always for the interesting discussion.
 
2012-06-09 01:45:29 AM  

Waldo Pepper: the ha ha guy: Waldo Pepper: so then what do you believe?

I believe that he who is without sin shall cast the first stone. When you can find someone who is without sin, I'll show you someone qualified to fight against things that you believe are wrong.

do you fight against things you believe are wrong?

You know, I disagree with virtually everything you've said but I would like to thank you for having the balls to defend your beliefs.
 
2012-06-09 01:48:16 AM  

Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: If you think christians advocating against gay marriage has nothing to do with hate against a group then I know quite a few folk who would like to have a word with you. Obama doesn't even matter. Denying civil rights to a group whose sexual orientation is different is still denying civil rights. It isn't easier to say standing up against gay rights is easier since people have been denying it for a very long time. I have an aunt who is gay and over 60 years old and struggled with coming out for decades specifically because she knew people would absolutely destroy her self-esteem for not being what they think is normal.

sorry for your aunts struggles. it is possible to love someone and not agree with what they are doing doesn't make it hate. the gay issue is tough for Christians anything we say seems harsh,mean or evil.

I thought I was quite clear on what i said if they are pure in heart in working against it from a purely religious standpoint I can't argue. that is their belief. but most who fight against issues in the public forum have other agendas for it.


I would appreciate your comment more if you didn't say the exact thing that many of us feel. You say if they are doing it purely of religion you won't argue it is bad, but you feel most are doing it for agendas. Reverse that statement at yourself. You are basically washing your hands of it and still saying homosexuals are doing it purely for agendas and I have to wonder if you aren't doing the same.
 
2012-06-09 01:49:27 AM  
Damn you fark. All the typing and it didn't even post it.
 
2012-06-09 01:49:39 AM  

Waldo Pepper: the gay issue is tough for Christians anything we say seems harsh,mean or evil.


When speaking against homosexuality, why not use the same words Jesus used?
 
2012-06-09 01:49:41 AM  
God made gay animals so God is obviously gay. Or at least Bi.
 
2012-06-09 02:03:07 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.

okay we get it, you don't believe.

Have a nice day, please get on with your life I seriously doubt your life has been made worse by Christians.


No offense. But if you don't want an anti-christian thread, don't invite it by telling everyone it will be an anti-christian thread. Feel free to say it happens all the time though when you actually ask why christianity makes someone's life worse.
 
2012-06-09 02:05:22 AM  
The Bible is 100% accurate?
 
2012-06-09 02:11:22 AM  

Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.

okay we get it, you don't believe.

Have a nice day, please get on with your life I seriously doubt your life has been made worse by Christians.

No offense. But if you don't want an anti-christian thread, don't invite it by telling everyone it will be an anti-christian thread. Feel free to say it happens all the time though when you actually ask why christianity makes someone's life worse.

None taken. but dang i thought more time would be spent on the article lol


Liar. My quote was the Weeners you made in this thread. Your very first statement had nothing to do with the article. Don't accuse me of something you never even tried to start with.
 
2012-06-09 02:12:36 AM  
I do love the fark censor. Weeners seem to pop up everytime I don't want them too. Shut up.
 
2012-06-09 02:15:29 AM  

Waldo Pepper:
The problem is discussing this with folks who think the Bible is a fairy tale. I believe it is 100% accurate, others don't.


Who is baiting who here?
 
2012-06-09 02:18:36 AM  

Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.

okay we get it, you don't believe.

Have a nice day, please get on with your life I seriously doubt your life has been made worse by Christians.

No offense. But if you don't want an anti-christian thread, don't invite it by telling everyone it will be an anti-christian thread. Feel free to say it happens all the time though when you actually ask why christianity makes someone's life worse.

None taken. but dang i thought more time would be spent on the article lol

Liar. My quote was the Weeners you made in this thread. Your very first statement had nothing to do with the article. Don't accuse me of something you never even tried to start with.

what weeners? seriously I thought I would post my thought have a few hits and go to bed lol.

really you have to sink to calling me a liar.

Have I called anyone a name in here?


No.
You have been polite, well spoken and amazingly patient.
 
2012-06-09 02:19:48 AM  

Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.

okay we get it, you don't believe.

Have a nice day, please get on with your life I seriously doubt your life has been made worse by Christians.

No offense. But if you don't want an anti-christian thread, don't invite it by telling everyone it will be an anti-christian thread. Feel free to say it happens all the time though when you actually ask why christianity makes someone's life worse.

None taken. but dang i thought more time would be spent on the article lol

Liar. My quote was the Weeners you made in this thread. Your very first statement had nothing to do with the article. Don't accuse me of something you never even tried to start with.

what weeners? seriously I thought I would post my thought have a few hits and go to bed lol.

really you have to sink to calling me a liar.

Have I called anyone a name in here?


Not familiar with fark censor?
 
2012-06-09 02:24:34 AM  
Considering I didn't use a curse word I'm curious as to what it blocked. Ni*bong is next I'm sure. ;)
 
2012-06-09 02:26:40 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I was always taught to be careful of those who quote the Bible to argue subjects it is not to be used that way.


Right. Because if there's one book that should never be used to illustrate what god desires of his followers, it's the Bible...

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" - 2 Timothy 3:16

Are you really, honestly, truly, saying that 1, the Bible should not be quoted or used to instruct others, and 2, that Paul, writing under inspiration from God, was wrong when he wrote that the Bible should be quoted and used to instruct others?
 
2012-06-09 02:28:54 AM  
coasm.files.wordpress.comThis isn't applicable anymore?
 
2012-06-09 02:33:54 AM  

Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: [coasm.files.wordpress.com image 604x523]This isn't applicable anymore?

I prefer from living on this planet for many years and seeing how the word of God has proven to be accurate over and over again and how it wall works out. I've had nothing else in my life be as accurate as the word of God.


2+2 works pretty well.
 
2012-06-09 02:35:30 AM  

Waldo Pepper: ugh no i just know when it is too easy to quote the Bible to try and prove one's points out and coming across as holier than thou, or in the classic "oh yea well God says this" and totally not what is meant. Much like Satan on the mountaintop trying to tempt God.


There's a subtle difference between "but the bible says so everything you believe is wrong", and replying with a quote to someone who specifically requested to hear said quote.
 
2012-06-09 02:37:46 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Jesus didn't speak a lot against things, he left that up to his disciples


Yeah, except for that whole "turn the other cheek" thing, where he specifically instructed his followers NOT to lash out or fight back against others...
 
2012-06-09 02:43:00 AM  

Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: [coasm.files.wordpress.com image 604x523]This isn't applicable anymore?

I prefer from living on this planet for many years and seeing how the word of God has proven to be accurate over and over again and how it wall works out. I've had nothing else in my life be as accurate as the word of God.

2+2 works pretty well.

Rare blood disease, no cure, almost died 3 times in a 6 week period, transfusions not taking. I've always been leery of folks who "hear God talk", I hear God speak while lying in the hospital bed with tubes in both arms going to my heart, "you will be okay, My peace is with you."

been in remission 9 years no issues, got rear ended 3 weeks ago by a f350 super duty who's driver fell asleep while he was doing 85mph, totaled my little car, i walk away not even needing the hospital, air bags didn't deploy.

I will choose God over the fsm all the time.


Uhh.. What are you trying to say here? I know someone who is alive and required chemotherapy twice and it worked both times (thank you science) or should I credit that to God. I'm not sure what your point is here. shiat happens maybe?
 
2012-06-09 02:43:06 AM  
Seems like God could have just not given you a disease in the first place... and maybe made the driver stay awake,
 
2012-06-09 02:43:48 AM  
Don't judge the majority of Christians over the actions of a few bad apples...

Okay.

Don't judge the majority of Athiests over the actions of a few bad apples..
Don't judge the majority of Gays over the actions of a few bad apples...

The thing is, everyone sees everyone else's judgments, but never their own. That is because they view their own judgements as being positive because they are right, whereas everyone else is wrong.

This gives rise to behaviour where someone will loudly (and sometimes forcefully) judge others a hundred time, yet take offense at a single judgement aimed at themselves.
 
2012-06-09 02:45:28 AM  
Wow, serious thread is serious.
 
2012-06-09 02:46:07 AM  

zzrhardy: Don't judge the majority of Christians over the actions of a few bad apples...

Okay.

Don't judge the majority of Athiests over the actions of a few bad apples..
Don't judge the majority of Gays over the actions of a few bad apples...

The thing is, everyone sees everyone else's judgments, but never their own. That is because they view their own judgements as being positive because they are right, whereas everyone else is wrong.

This gives rise to behaviour where someone will loudly (and sometimes forcefully) judge others a hundred time, yet take offense at a single judgement aimed at themselves.


I like this. Perception is a gift while judgment is a conviction.
 
2012-06-09 02:51:32 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Boatmech: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.
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Have I called anyone a name in here?

No.
You have been polite, well spoken and amazingly patient.

awe geez thank you unless your being snarky this is after still Fark LOL and i doubt i've been well spoken unless one enjoys my ramblings


No snark. Consider that most Farkers that share your point of view usually end up screaming obscenities and insults or do a Bevets I appreciate your effort.
 
2012-06-09 02:52:37 AM  

Boatmech: Waldo Pepper: Boatmech: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.
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Have I called anyone a name in here?

No.
You have been polite, well spoken and amazingly patient.

awe geez thank you unless your being snarky this is after still Fark LOL and i doubt i've been well spoken unless one enjoys my ramblings

No snark. Consider that most Farkers that share your point of view usually end up screaming obscenities and insults or do a Bevets I appreciate your effort.


I can agree with that.
 
2012-06-09 02:54:31 AM  

Waldo Pepper: God never promised an easy life. God didn't give me a disease. God works thru science, Luke was a doctor.

heck I don't know just felt like sharing, it's time for bed, LOL


I find it funny as an agnostic that some Christians are so anti evolution. It seems like an easy goal for them to me, ie, "evolution is one of the many tools that God created. God meant for life to evolve".

More to the point, if their God deliberately created life to evolve, who the heck are these twats to question his methods and or purpose?
 
2012-06-09 02:59:35 AM  

liquidsiphon: Boatmech: Waldo Pepper: Boatmech: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: liquidsiphon: Waldo Pepper: Great another fark thread where the atheist get to show off how cool they are by make fun of Christians.
`
{snip}
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Have I called anyone a name in here?

No.
You have been polite, well spoken and amazingly patient.

awe geez thank you unless your being snarky this is after still Fark LOL and i doubt i've been well spoken unless one enjoys my ramblings

No snark. Consider that most Farkers that share your point of view usually end up screaming obscenities and insults or do a Bevets I appreciate your effort.

I can agree with that.


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Then let the guy get some sleep and save the asshattery for Bevets and his ilk.
 
2012-06-09 03:03:31 AM  
So hard to resist. As if I ever get to save anything for bevets.. as if anyone does. He doesn't talk back much. He recites and is gone.
 
2012-06-09 03:07:31 AM  

liquidsiphon: So hard to resist. As if I ever get to save anything for bevets.. as if anyone does. He doesn't talk back much. He recites and is gone.


So why take it out on this guy?
 
2012-06-09 03:12:33 AM  
Difference of opinions on a subject is not taking it out on someone. I'm pretty sure he's free to do the same to my opinions.
 
2012-06-09 03:16:04 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Boatmech: liquidsiphon: So hard to resist. As if I ever get to save anything for bevets.. as if anyone does. He doesn't talk back much. He recites and is gone.

So why take it out on this guy?

no worries its all good


Get some sleep/come back fresh, I've got a couple of simple questions I'd like to ask you.
 
2012-06-09 03:19:28 AM  

liquidsiphon: Difference of opinions on a subject is not taking it out on someone. I'm pretty sure he's free to do the same to my opinions.


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Hey, this IS Fark, give the guy a little room. If he is sincere in his beliefs he'll be back.
 
2012-06-09 03:21:09 AM  
The exact reason I like debating with him. Give me a bit of wiggle room. He's not gonna storm off and never talk again. I like folk who come back to the table to discuss issues even if they have to face issues they might not normally deal with.
 
2012-06-09 03:25:26 AM  

diaphoresis: What a REAL joyful noise might sound like:

Joyful

I likes


Absolutely my favorite part of that movie.
 
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