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(WRCB)   Gunman figures 67-year-old man would be an easy target. Sixty-seven-year-old combat veteran quickly disabuses him of his notion. "What I faced in Vietnam...no, it didn't shake me. It made me mad"   (wrcbtv.com) divider line 113
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2012-06-08 10:25:28 PM  
Gunbarrel Road? Really?
 
2012-06-08 10:26:53 PM  
Every single mugging and mugger is completely different. Your mileage may vary from this hardass old dude.
 
2012-06-08 10:27:15 PM  
Napoleon? Octavious? Really?
 
2012-06-08 10:28:20 PM  
Plan A: Rob an Old Guy
if that fails
Plan B: Ask for a ride from the Old Guy
when that fails
Plan C: Run Away

Having a contingency for everything, now thats one well thought out plan
 
2012-06-08 10:29:17 PM  
My boss id 65, I wouldn't try to take him unless he was good and stoned first. Which he always is... but still.

You never know when someone is a lot harder than you think they are.
 
2012-06-08 10:32:03 PM  
He did, 19-year-old Octavious Malone left in a hurry and was arrested shortly afterwards, along with two juveniles, on Gunbarrel Road. Malone is facing weapon and aggravated robbery charges.


Word!
 
2012-06-08 10:34:24 PM  
40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.
 
2012-06-08 10:36:15 PM  
*bow*

P.S. Do not fark with a singularity, man.
 
2012-06-08 10:37:37 PM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.


nothing.. they suffer from PSTD.
 
2012-06-08 10:40:09 PM  
40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.



They'll probably end up actually shooting and robbing the old guy.
 
2012-06-08 10:40:13 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

nothing.. they suffer from PSTD.


or they'll be contestants on America's Got Talent.
 
2012-06-08 10:41:26 PM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.


Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.
 
2012-06-08 10:42:35 PM  
I always love the use of the phrase that begins with "disabusing". Such a wonderful tweak of language. So formal and yet so bad-ass.

/Yes, I'm serious.
 
2012-06-08 10:44:44 PM  
Get off of my lawn
 
2012-06-08 10:45:03 PM  
FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)
 
2012-06-08 10:50:51 PM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.


Break out the Predator drones, I guess.
 
2012-06-08 10:51:43 PM  
FTA: When the gunman held the gun up Rutledge said, "Why you wanna rob me? Why don't you get a job? What I got, what I get, what I spend in this store, I earned it! I said if you gonna shoot me then shoot me. I got a wife and three kids that you'll have to take care of."

i.istockimg.com
 
2012-06-08 10:53:45 PM  
img0.fark.net trifecta in play?
 
2012-06-08 10:56:12 PM  

mbillips: Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.


I am afraid that you may be on the wrong website, what with your "realistic points" and all.

/the correct answer is "I'ma stab him with my katana sword since swords are better than guns at close range"
 
2012-06-08 10:57:07 PM  

Ed Finnerty: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] trifecta in play?


Droned.

;)
 
2012-06-08 10:57:42 PM  

mbillips: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.


You are 100 percent on. There are non-military people that rise to the occasion, and there are well-trained (I guess) military people that fold like crappy poker hands.
 
2012-06-08 10:57:59 PM  
That was the grocery store we went to when I was a kid. Im sad the neighborhood has declined do much people ate being held at gunpoint in broad daylight now.
 
2012-06-08 10:58:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn


c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com
 
2012-06-08 11:00:39 PM  
Black Rambo. Probably the best Blaxploitation movie of all time.
 
2012-06-08 11:05:50 PM  

Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)


Kind of wish he was at that funeral here in Atlanta.
 
2012-06-08 11:05:51 PM  

Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)


Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). My ASVAB score made my recruiter sit up and say "Well, you're not a bullet sponge." (only a 96, I know, 80% of Fark scored 99, but I was there with a bunch of guys who failed previously to get into the army with a 30 cutoff)

Sure there's lots of stuff I could do in the military, but taking orders from the left is not one of them. Not everyone is cut out for military service, and they could put other soldiers in danger by being out there. Sure, I could probably be a nice bit of help, but I can't get into the military, and there is no system in place for people who could provide a logistic advantage and yet a tactical disadvantage. At least, that's how it seems, I did only try one branch. And I'm 30 now, so I've got 6 months or so I think before I can't even try to get in.

Sure it works conscription works if your military is the size of Sweden or North Korea, but here you'd have people faking congenital defects to get out of combat jobs.
 
2012-06-08 11:06:02 PM  
Never, ever mess with the old guy

/old
//lawn, off
 
2012-06-08 11:12:14 PM  
I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.
 
2012-06-08 11:13:24 PM  

Koolaider: Black Rambo. Probably the best Blaxploitation movie of all time.


Sambo?
 
2012-06-08 11:13:56 PM  

Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)


Conscription policy?

No.

The nation simply needs to raise and discipline their own farking kids.

The military doesn't need a bunch of farking spoiled brats, it's hard enough motivating volunteers, let alone a bunch of conscripted fat-back loser suburbanite / ghetto punks.

Besides, outside of Infantry organizations who can't afford to follow the political correct bullshiat policies espoused by our limp-wristed citizenry, the military is no longer a place of "discipline". Now it's about "equality" and "diversity" so the weak, stupid, and undisciplined can throw the race / gender card, and NOW they have the sexual orientation card to play as well.

You know what....fark it.

You're right.

Draft the motherfarkers. With all the bullshyte the military has to put up with due to political correctness, it doesn't really matter any more.

At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.
 
2012-06-08 11:15:05 PM  
"What I faced in Vietnam...no, it didn't shake me. It made me mad"

feralboy.com

/link is as hot as Hill 364
 
2012-06-08 11:16:04 PM  

Ashtrey: Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). My ASVAB score made my recruiter sit up and say "Well, you're not a bullet sponge." (only a 96, I know, 80% of Fark scored 99, but I was there with a bunch of guys who failed previously to get into the army with a 30 cutoff)

Sure there's lots of stuff I could do in the military, but taking orders from the left is not one of them. Not everyone is cut out for military service, and they could put other soldiers in danger by being out there. Sure, I could probably be a nice bit of help, but I can't get into the military, and there is no system in place for people who could provide a logistic advantage and yet a tactical disadvantage. At least, that's how it seems, I did only try one branch. And I'm 30 now, so I've got 6 months or so I think before I can't even try to get in.

Sure it works conscription works if your military is the size of Sweden or North Korea, but here you'd have people faking congenital defects to get out of combat jobs.


Btw, by 'taking orders from the left' I mean 'hearing things said on the left side of my body' not anything political.
 
2012-06-08 11:16:49 PM  
While I was hiding in an archives today, I read a newspaper article from ten years ago about a guy who tried to mug a retired Texas Ranger. The ex-ranger apparently subdued and cuffed the moron in less than a minute (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).
 
2012-06-08 11:20:48 PM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.


Same thing only they'll be more politically correct when they do it.
 
2012-06-08 11:21:53 PM  
He could just as easily have been shot and killed. I hate when the media sensationalizes this kind of bullshiat. This old dude was not a hero, he was not brave, he didn't have "brass balls", he was stupid. He got lucky this time. If there's a next time, he may end up in a casket instead.
 
2012-06-08 11:23:52 PM  

rebelyell2006: While I was hiding in an archives today, I read a newspaper article from ten years ago about a guy who tried to mug a retired Texas Ranger. The ex-ranger apparently subdued and cuffed the moron in less than a minute (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).


Because who doesn't like sudden kinky sex?
 
2012-06-08 11:24:58 PM  

Ashtrey: Ashtrey: Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). My ASVAB score made my recruiter sit up and say "Well, you're not a bullet sponge." (only a 96, I know, 80% of Fark scored 99, but I was there with a bunch of guys who failed previously to get into the army with a 30 cutoff)

Sure there's lots of stuff I could do in the military, but taking orders from the left is not one of them. Not everyone is cut out for military service, and they could put other soldiers in danger by being out there. Sure, I could probably be a nice bit of help, but I can't get into the military, and there is no system in place for people who could provide a logistic advantage and yet a tactical disadvantage. At least, that's how it seems, I did ...


Yeah...I read several sentences past that before I figured it out.

/then I lol'ed.
 
2012-06-08 11:26:18 PM  
croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.



Although I applaud what this guy did (it took a lot of guts)...things could've ended much differently.

"Shoot me if you're gonna shoot me!"

BANG!

Headline: 'Vietnam veteran shot dead over $600 in robbery'


Police advise against this because it might save your life, not to strip you of your dignity.
 
2012-06-08 11:27:26 PM  

rebelyell2006: While I was hiding in an archives today, I read a newspaper article from ten years ago about a guy who tried to mug a retired Texas Ranger. The ex-ranger apparently subdued and cuffed the moron in less than a minute (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).


You should always have one of these handy:
www.handcuffwarehouse.com

/Still carry the cuffs
 
2012-06-08 11:30:33 PM  
Dear Gen XYZ, we'll shoot your ass off.

Thanks,
Boomers.
 
2012-06-08 11:32:04 PM  

Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)



Except for you know, that pesky 13th Amendment.
 
2012-06-08 11:33:25 PM  

Hagenhatesyouall: Besides, outside of Infantry organizations who can't afford to follow the political correct bullshiat policies espoused by our limp-wristed citizenry, the military is no longer a place of "discipline". Now it's about "equality" and "diversity" so the weak, stupid, and undisciplined can throw the race / gender card, and NOW they have the sexual orientation card to play as well.


Cry moar, emo douche.
 
2012-06-08 11:39:18 PM  
This story makes me happy that my father was a Korean War vet who was also drafted. When times are tough, and right now they are, I feel so guilty having to ask him for help, of course he's always willing, but I just feel like he's sacrificed so much, I could never match that. I plan on taking the long drive next weekend to surprise him for Father's Day. I'm glad these old vets are still around, and I think ultimately this kid's life will change after this event, hopefully.


/get off my lawn!
 
2012-06-08 11:39:44 PM  
Napoleon v.s Octavius:
FIGHT!
 
2012-06-08 11:41:56 PM  

I Browse: Police advise against this because it might save your life, not to strip you of your dignity


Where are the randomized control trials that prove this?
Did they control for all variables?
What was the p value?

/herp derp
 
2012-06-08 11:42:43 PM  

rebelyell2006: (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).


My 75 year old first ex wife's dad was a retired ranger.
He carried cuffs and guns.
I was a green cop when I married his daughter.
I didn't mess with him.
He didn't mess with me.
he was glad to have her out of the house.
 
2012-06-08 11:50:01 PM  

cuzsis: Yeah...I read several sentences past that before I figured it out.

/then I lol'ed.



Yeah, I wasn't trying to make any sort of political statement, I was just saying that our military was not set up for people who can help out a lot, yet who maybe wouldn't be someone you would want in a quiet huddle 50 yards from a target. ("dude, what did you say?")

Hell, maybe Stephan Hawking would be a badass commander, but he would be a shiatty rifleman. (not that I'm even close to that smart, please do not read this as me thinking that I am).
 
2012-06-08 11:57:48 PM  
I'm so used to these "Old veteran kicks mugger's ass" headlines, I'd almost be surprised to see a headline where the old guy doesn't take down a punk.


(don't get me wrong, it's still awesome to see the old timers bring the pain)
 
2012-06-09 12:02:35 AM  

Ashtrey: Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). My ASVAB score made my recruiter sit up and say "Well, you're not a bullet sponge." (only a 96, I know, 80% of Fark scored 99, but I was there with a bunch of guys who failed previously to get into the army with a 30 cutoff)

Sure there's lots of stuff I could do in the military, but taking orders from the left is not one of them. Not everyone is cut out for military service, and they could put other soldiers in danger by being out there. Sure, I could probably be a nice bit of help, but I can't get into the military, and there is no system in place for people who could provide a logistic advantage and yet a tactical disadvantage. At least, that's how it seems, I did only try one branch. ...


Yeah, I never really understood some of the gov. M.O. in regards to the military. IMHO we could use a branch of the "military"(in dept. location only) that handles things specifically not combat related. Engineers, mechanics, logistics, hell even doing work at home (I know I know taking more jobs from people) that states either neglect or cannot afford to do, infrastructure stuff, roads, power grid, bridges etc. That way people who could not otherwise can now contribute.

Hagenhatesyouall: Conscription policy?

No.

The nation simply needs to raise and discipline their own farking kids.

The military doesn't need a bunch of farking spoiled brats, it's hard enough motivating volunteers, let alone a bunch of conscripted fat-back loser suburbanite / ghetto punks.

Besides, outside of Infantry organizations who can't afford to follow the political correct bullshiat policies espoused by our limp-wristed citizenry, the military is no longer a place of "discipline". Now it's about "equality" and "diversity" so the weak, stupid, and undisciplined can throw the race / gender card, and NOW they have the sexual orientation card to play as well.

You know what....fark it.

You're right.

Draft the motherfarkers. With all the bullshyte the military has to put up with due to political correctness, it doesn't really matter any more.

At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.


That looked like an abridged version of the conversation where I came to this conclusion.......

Warlordtrooper: Except for you know, that pesky 13th Amendment.


While you may be right, the 13th amendment was adopted on December 6, 1865 and the Vietnam draft occurred during a period of conscription in the United States from just before World War II to 1973, I'm thinking they could get around that again.
 
2012-06-09 12:04:32 AM  
Muggers should try to get old vets properly tagged for their own safety so they know who not to fark with. I'm sure some feel good, pussy social organization would be happy to help them with this.
 
2012-06-09 12:08:13 AM  
Who keeps breeding muggers?
 
2012-06-09 12:12:08 AM  

Ashtrey: Btw, by 'taking orders from the left' I mean 'hearing things said on the left side of my body' not anything political


Actually I just took it as the left side of the curve, considering you were testing with a bunch of idiots who couldn't pass, from my understanding, a general knowledge test.
 
2012-06-09 12:13:22 AM  

vudukungfu: rebelyell2006: (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).

My 75 year old first ex wife's dad was a retired ranger.
He carried cuffs and guns.
I was a green cop when I married his daughter.
I didn't mess with him.
He didn't mess with me.
he was glad to have her out of the house.


Your first ex-wife was 75?

/welcome
 
2012-06-09 12:14:48 AM  

Mad Tea Party: I'm so used to these "Old veteran kicks mugger's ass" headlines, I'd almost be surprised to see a headline where the old guy doesn't take down a punk.


Young man bests old man. That happens so often in muggings, it's not notable. They're just normal muggings.

The only reason there ARE headlines is because the role reversal.
 
2012-06-09 12:18:23 AM  

the_chief: Who keeps breeding muggers?


The welfare system!
 
2012-06-09 12:18:42 AM  

I Browse: croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.



Although I applaud what this guy did (it took a lot of guts)...things could've ended much differently.

"Shoot me if you're gonna shoot me!"

BANG!

Headline: 'Vietnam veteran shot dead over $600 in robbery'


Police advise against this because it might save your life, not to strip you of your dignity.


But either way they'll seize that cash. You know, just in case it was drug money.
 
2012-06-09 12:25:53 AM  
What he faced in 'nam was a lot of people desperately trying to defend their families from a foreign invading army. Fark him. Farking Nazi.
 
2012-06-09 12:26:18 AM  

Ashtrey: Btw, by 'taking orders from the left' I mean 'hearing things said on the left side of my body' not anything political.


Awww. You killed the joke I was going to make (even though I understood what you meant).
 
2012-06-09 12:26:42 AM  

Ashtrey: Avery614:

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). ...


Why the why did you even try to get into that branch if you are deaf in one ear? I mean, what with the 'a rifleman first' bit and all.
 
2012-06-09 12:33:37 AM  

DrPainMD: What he faced in 'nam was a lot of people desperately trying to defend their families from a foreign invading army. Fark him. Farking Nazi.


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-06-09 12:34:38 AM  
Sure is fascist and psychopathic in here. You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?
 
2012-06-09 12:37:26 AM  
Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn

[c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x399]


Does anyone else notice that that gun's barrel is filled with concrete?
 
2012-06-09 12:44:58 AM  
FraggleStickCar: You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?

1/10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unified_Assistance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unified_Response
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tomodachi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Support_Hope
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Provide_Hope
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pacific_Angel

As one US Admiral pointed out when the French sarcastically asked what we were going to do by sending a carrier group there (paraphrased):
French Admiral: What are you going to do with an aircraft carrier? Bomb it?
Response: Our aircraft carriers generate enough power to provide electricity for 3,000 homes without affecting operations, have a fully equipped medical facility capable of emergency treatment, water purification facilities, the resources to airlift food and supplies and we have eleven of them. How many does France have?
 
2012-06-09 12:50:43 AM  
I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.
 
2012-06-09 12:51:48 AM  

BronyMedic: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn

[c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x399]

Does anyone else notice that that gun's barrel is filled with concrete?


Yeah, I noticed that it's a stage gun. Funny that nobody in post production apparently noticed how fake it looks.
 
2012-06-09 12:53:39 AM  

croesius: the_chief: Who keeps breeding muggers?

The welfare system!


Tip your veal, try the waitress...
 
2012-06-09 12:54:32 AM  

A-Rth-Urp-Hil-Ipdenu: Ashtrey: Avery614:

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). ...

Why the why did you even try to get into that branch if you are deaf in one ear? I mean, what with the 'a rifleman first' bit and all.


Probably an attempt to one-up, connect with, or just equal my grandfather the Army Ranger. Hey I was 24 years old and just out of a 6 year relationship, I wasn't thinking clearly.
 
2012-06-09 12:55:56 AM  
Yep, I'm going to go ahead and have to buy the brother a steak dinner next time I'm down that way. Hell, I'll even cover his folks if they're around at the time.
 
2012-06-09 12:57:26 AM  

BronyMedic: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn

[c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x399]

Does anyone else notice that that gun's barrel is filled with concrete?


That's not concrete.

Concrete has aggregate... rocks and stuff...

/I'm helping!!!
 
2012-06-09 12:59:54 AM  

Allen. The end.: mbillips: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.

You are 100 percent on. There are non-military people that rise to the occasion, and there are well-trained (I guess) military people that fold like crappy poker hands.


It's not just about the people. It's also about the occasion. But in this case, criminals don't deliberately choose deadly people as victims. Criminals try very hard to pick the most non-deadly people possible for their victims. Sometimes they screw up---criminals aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people. This 'Nam vet is a dangerous person. A whole lot of the vets coming home are, after some time to get their heads back together, going to settle into being garden variety joes who function okay in society but who, under the surface, are grumpy and dangerous to fark with.

In general, since I am not a fan of systems and people that randomly fark with others for no good reason, I think it is a good thing for busybodies in government or wherever else to be appropriately wary of randomly farking with people just because they can.

40 or so years from now, Iraq/Afghan veterans will be doing a good job of opening up the gas grill, lifting up the sacred citronella torch, and yelling the sacred war cry of their lawn, get the fark off it.

I have faith in them.
 
2012-06-09 01:00:44 AM  

Gyrfalcon: try the waitress...


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-09 01:04:03 AM  

Mister Peejay: mbillips: Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.

I am afraid that you may be on the wrong website, what with your "realistic points" and all.

/the correct answer is "I'ma stab him with my katana sword since swords are better than guns at close range"


No time to draw the sword. Better go for the palm strike in the classic and oft-seen driving of the nose bone into the brain.
 
2012-06-09 01:14:20 AM  

FraggleStickCar: Sure is fascist and psychopathic in here. You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?


Link Fun starts around 1:30...

blog.cytalk.com

thegreatdayofannihilation.files.wordpress.com
With... "A typical carrier air wing can include 12-14 F/A-18E or F Super Hornets as strike fighters; two squadrons of 10-12 F/A-18C Hornets, with one of these often provided by the U.S. Marine Corps (VMFA), also as strike fighters; 4-6 EA-6B Prowlers for electronic warfare; 4-6 E-2C Hawkeyes used for airborne early warning; C-2 Greyhounds used for logistics; and a Helicopter Antisubmarine Squadron of 6-8 SH-60F & HH-60H Seahawks. Aircraft that have previously operated from Nimitz-class carriers include F-14 Tomcats, S-3 Vikings, A-7 Corsair II and A-6E Intruder aircraft. or more on every one...

Fear is a powerful motivator my friend.


/feels pretty farking free by and large
//politicians on the other hand........
 
2012-06-09 01:16:28 AM  

Ashtrey: Probably an attempt to one-up, connect with, or just equal my grandfather the Army Ranger. Hey I was 24 years old and just out of a 6 year relationship, I wasn't thinking clearly.


Dude don't worry about it, I tried to enlist the day after my first (and only) DUI.....not one of my best moments.
 
2012-06-09 01:16:35 AM  
I used to work near Woodruff Park and the 5 Points Marta station in downtown Atlanta. Lovely historic building with one of the Big Four firms - really liked the job. What I hated is that whenever I left the building to grab lunch or just some fresh air, some young, able bodied guy in expensive clothes would hit me up for money or cigarettes. I politely demurred for a while but one day I'd had enough and I lit into him. "You have a hard working mama, I bet. What would she think of you mooching off a hard working woman? Why are you not working? If you are hungry, McDonalds is hiring and they will feed you too. Leave me the hell alone! I do not want you in my face ever again." From that day on, he'd turn the other direction when he saw me. Good. I'm the biggest softy in the world, and have compassion for many who probably don't deserve it but I also have no tolerance for laziness or thievery. In retrospect, I'm probably lucky he didn't shoot me, but it felt good and by damn, he left me alone from there on out. I hate that I've become cynical but I've seen enough episodes of "Intervention" to know that if they come to you with a sob story about needing gas, they probably are looking for you to buy them their next hit. When I travel I have my concealed carry license on me. I'm not looking for trouble, but by God don't bring it, please.

/Another liberal with a gun that knows how to use it, God forbid.
 
2012-06-09 01:20:03 AM  

FraggleStickCar: Sure is fascist and psychopathic in here. You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?


Bye.
 
2012-06-09 01:25:37 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die the paper and pull the hangy down thing.


Mine does - it has no safety but does have a half-cock notch. I also fixed your post.
 
2012-06-09 01:26:32 AM  
My guess is that Mr. Veteran would not have done what he did if he hadn't sensed the little punk was, at heart, a cowardly pussy who could be talked into anything. The only thing that still might have given him pause is that one nervous twitch of the punk's finger would change the situation dramatically.
 
2012-06-09 01:36:45 AM  

Avery614: Ashtrey: Probably an attempt to one-up, connect with, or just equal my grandfather the Army Ranger. Hey I was 24 years old and just out of a 6 year relationship, I wasn't thinking clearly.

Dude don't worry about it, I tried to enlist the day after my first (and only) DUI.....not one of my best moments.


If you haven't had that kind of day, well you were much more responsible than me.
 
2012-06-09 01:39:25 AM  

Hagenhatesyouall: Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)

Conscription policy?

No.

The nation simply needs to raise and discipline their own farking kids.

The military doesn't need a bunch of farking spoiled brats, it's hard enough motivating volunteers, let alone a bunch of conscripted fat-back loser suburbanite / ghetto punks.

Besides, outside of Infantry organizations who can't afford to follow the political correct bullshiat policies espoused by our limp-wristed citizenry, the military is no longer a place of "discipline". Now it's about "equality" and "diversity" so the weak, stupid, and undisciplined can throw the race / gender card, and NOW they have the sexual orientation card to play as well.

You know what....fark it.

You're right.

Draft the motherfarkers. With all the bullshyte the military has to put up with due to political correctness, it doesn't really matter any more.

At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.


Newsletter?
 
2012-06-09 01:41:39 AM  

baronvonzipper: rebelyell2006: While I was hiding in an archives today, I read a newspaper article from ten years ago about a guy who tried to mug a retired Texas Ranger. The ex-ranger apparently subdued and cuffed the moron in less than a minute (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).

You should always have one of these handy:
www.handcuffwarehouse.com

/Still carry the cuffs




I still have one on my keyring even though I haven't carried cuffs in over 20 yrs. Never know when you might need it.
 
2012-06-09 01:47:27 AM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?



Have a flashback to one of their 4 or 5 psychologically-devastating tours and shoot the mugger in the face. Which wouldn't be entirely a bad thing.
 
2012-06-09 01:50:09 AM  

vudukungfu: rebelyell2006: (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).

My 75 year old first ex wife's dad was a retired ranger.
He carried cuffs and guns.
I was a green cop when I married his daughter.
I didn't mess with him.
He didn't mess with me.
he was glad to have her out of the house.


Did he use one of these?
www.medcareproducts.com
 
2012-06-09 01:50:45 AM  
Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.
 
2012-06-09 02:03:31 AM  
Dear Criminals...Most Vietnam Vets only look old. They will explode on contact with your stupidity. You have been warned.
 
2012-06-09 02:26:24 AM  

Hawnkee: Yep, I'm going to go ahead and have to buy the brother a steak dinner next time I'm down that way. Hell, I'll even cover his folks if they're around at the time.


Or he could just make himself a dang quesadilla.
 
2012-06-09 02:58:02 AM  

croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.


They need to look like they're doing their job...

/pass the donuts
 
2012-06-09 02:59:31 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.


All firearms need to be cocked before they will fire, if I'm not mistaken.
 
2012-06-09 03:09:17 AM  

BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.


Awwww....

Perhaps your unit victim advocate can help you seek the grief counseling you so desperately need, snowflake. Or maybe your "first line supervisor" can give you a hug.
 
2012-06-09 03:41:40 AM  

Allen. The end.: mbillips: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.

You are 100 percent on. There are non-military people that rise to the occasion, and there are well-trained (I guess) military people that fold like crappy poker hands.


It is not about folding. Stupid is the man who loses his life over $600.

My life is worth more.... maybe yours isn't.


Likewise, I would not kill someone to protect such a small sum of money.
 
2012-06-09 05:03:02 AM  
Perp's lucky they didn't have to call the amerlamps!
 
2012-06-09 05:40:58 AM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.


Well, my brother, who was in Gulf War I, almost beat the fark out of his wife when he was having war nightmares and she tried to wake him.
 
2012-06-09 06:08:30 AM  

buckler: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Well, my brother, who was in Gulf War I, almost beat the fark out of his wife when he was having war nightmares and she tried to wake him.


She should have used a pointed stick.
 
2012-06-09 06:19:52 AM  
This man meets the progressive definition of a racist, a killing gun loving racist at that.
 
2012-06-09 07:01:37 AM  

vudukungfu: Napoleon v.s Octavius:
FIGHT!


tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com

vs.

images.zap2it.com

?

GAME ON!
 
2012-06-09 07:13:37 AM  

Sider: Gunbarrel Road? Really?


Why the disconnect? Take the Longmont Diagonal (Rt. 119) a few miles NE of Boulder, CO, then cut East = Profit. New home of Avery Brewing.
 
2012-06-09 07:22:40 AM  

I Browse: croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.

Although I applaud what this guy did (it took a lot of guts)...things could've ended much differently.

"Shoot me if you're gonna shoot me!"

BANG! ...


Yup: see, for example, Nicole duFresne, famous for last words that included "What are you going to do now, shoot us?"
 
2012-06-09 09:08:55 AM  
Hagenhatesyouall: BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.

Awwww....

Perhaps your unit victim advocate can help you seek the grief counseling you so desperately need, snowflake. Or maybe your "first line supervisor" can give you a hug.


Maybe you go tell that to the people who patch up our men and women, and are responsible for the lowest casualty rate of any war in history, troll.

/Not military. Bad lungs and bad knee.
//You're still a douche.
///More respect for the Coast Guard than I have for people like you.
 
2012-06-09 09:33:33 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.


You should either attend some sort of firearms training, or stop having guns.
As a gun owner, you owe it to yourself and everyone around you to be familiar with how your weapon works, or any weapon you hold.
olive-drab.com
See that loopy, holey thing directly across from the barrel? That's the hammer. You can pull it back to cock it. Now not all guns have external hammers. Not all guns even have a hammer. Those without hammers at least have a firing pin. Those without firing pins have hammers. (unless you have an electric ignition fire system, but that is somewhat uncommon.) Regardless of what makes contact with the primer, something has to cock. You might not see it, but when you pull the trigger, something is being pulled back so it can strike the casing. Unless the gun is single action only, then you HAVE to cock it.
 
2012-06-09 09:45:17 AM  

BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.

Awwww....

Perhaps your unit victim advocate can help you seek the grief counseling you so desperately need, snowflake. Or maybe your "first line supervisor" can give you a hug.

Maybe you go tell that to the people who patch up our men and women, and are responsible for the lowest casualty rate of any war in history, troll.

/Not military. Bad lungs and bad knee.
//You're still a douche.
///More respect for the Coast Guard than I have for people like you.


Apparently he doesn't understand that for every dumb grunt who likes to point his bang stick at things and make it go boom, there are 7 REMFs who, in addition to sitting on their asses playing videogames in the A/C, are making sure he gets paid, gets fed, gets bullets, has fuel, has coms, doesn't get placed so that he is shooting at his own forces, has medical treatment, and has a ride home. And 'FOB safety' doesn't mean all that much when your ass gets mortared on a daily basis.
Either he wasn't smart enough to get a job that let him sit on the FOB, or he was and decided to go be a bullet catcher anyway, in which case I've got no sympathy for him either way. You got your job, we got ours. Neither can work without the other. If you don't complain about me sitting in the A/C all day, I won't complain when you come in the comms tent reaking of 3 day old swamp-ass.
 
2012-06-09 10:01:30 AM  
To clarify what MythDragon said:

Double-action weapons, which include most handguns designed in the past 70 years (though plenty of earlier designs, like the 1911 and its derivatives, continue to be manufactured to this day), cock as part of the trigger's retraction process. If you were to watch in slow-motion (or just watch someone squeezing the trigger really slowly), you would see the hammer pulling back as the trigger is squeezed, until, , the trigger is squeezed back sufficiently far to release the hammer which springs forward.

Many pistols (as opposed to revolvers -- see MythDragon's picture of a Baretta 92F for an illustration of a typical pistol), particularly smaller ones, have internal hammers. They are technically single action, because the trigger does not cause the hammer to be pulled back. Rather, the hammer is pulled back by the slide when the previous round is extracted or when the user pulls the slide back to chamber an unloaded weapon. This is the same thing that happens on pistols with external hammers such as MythDragon's Baretta, or the Browning-designed, Colt-manufactured .45-calibre M1911. The M1911 (and really all modern pistols) evolved from the Browning-designed, Colt-manufactured .32-calibre M1903 which has an internal hammer. It's there, you just can't see it. You cock it, but not as a distinct operation.

Double-action means that the trigger can cock an uncocked hammer before releasing it. Single-action means that the trigger can only release a cocked hammer. MythDragon's Baretta is double-action. Conversely, most Colt pistols are single-action, since Colt hasn't made anything new in more than a century, aside from tweaking calibres (such as making the 1911 in a 10mm configuration) and evolving the old Armalite AR15 into the M16A2 and M4 series.
 
2012-06-09 10:28:03 AM  

croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.


I used to work for this guy. There's a story he tells his students about the time a guy pulled a gun on him and demanded his wallet, and without thinking about it he kicked the gun out of the guy's hand.

When his students heard about this, one of them asked "Sifu, are we going to learn how to do that?" Sifu answered, "OH no. *I* kick the gun out of his hand. *You* give him your money."

He follows this anecdote up with a lecture about how stupid he felt after he did that, because he realized the guy could have shot him, and that you should never try to mess with someone who's pointing a gun at you... because which is more important? Your wallet, or your life?

Sifu is a pretty cool guy.

/I was his bookkeeper. He wouldn't take me as a student because he didn't think I was serious about it.
//He was sooooo right. I was just a pretentious teenager who thought doing kung fu would make me cool.
 
2012-06-09 10:44:44 AM  
MythDragon: Either he wasn't smart enough to get a job that let him sit on the FOB, or he was and decided to go be a bullet catcher anyway, in which case I've got no sympathy for him either way. You got your job, we got ours. Neither can work without the other. If you don't complain about me sitting in the A/C all day, I won't complain when you come in the comms tent reaking of 3 day old swamp-ass.

THIS.

The majority of sane people do not go 11 Bravo (Infantryman) because they want to. The majority get put in that position because they have the ASVAB score of a potato, or they royally fark up during BCT or during their MOS' AIT.
 
2012-06-09 12:33:36 PM  

BronyMedic: The majority of sane people do not go 11 Bravo (Infantryman) because they want to. The majority get put in that position because they have the ASVAB score of a potato, or they royally fark up during BCT or during their MOS' AIT.



You do not know what you are talking about.

The ASVAB scores required for infantry are higher than several MOSs. You want to see real knuckle-dragging morons? Go check out a field service company, mortuary affairs company, or laundry & showers company -- for that matter, QM and TC in general are pretty low on the ASVAB scores and high on the extra chromosomes.

Infantry is sort of odd in its intellectual diversity. There are idiots to be sure, but there are also brilliant guys, and everything in-between. Fellows are attracted to infantry for a variety of reasons: the bonuses and Army College Fund contributions are high, there's the proving-yourself angle, family tradition, and the sense that "if I'm going to be in the Army, I shouldn't do things half-way by not going infantry.
 
2012-06-09 12:37:12 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: BronyMedic: The majority of sane people do not go 11 Bravo (Infantryman) because they want to. The majority get put in that position because they have the ASVAB score of a potato, or they royally fark up during BCT or during their MOS' AIT.


You do not know what you are talking about.

The ASVAB scores required for infantry are higher than several MOSs. You want to see real knuckle-dragging morons? Go check out a field service company, mortuary affairs company, or laundry & showers company -- for that matter, QM and TC in general are pretty low on the ASVAB scores and high on the extra chromosomes.

Infantry is sort of odd in its intellectual diversity. There are idiots to be sure, but there are also brilliant guys, and everything in-between. Fellows are attracted to infantry for a variety of reasons: the bonuses and Army College Fund contributions are high, there's the proving-yourself angle, family tradition, and the sense that "if I'm going to be in the Army, I shouldn't do things half-way by not going infantry.


Pretty much this. Some of my best friends were Infantry and not idiots. But I mocked 'em anyways. MI mocks Infantry, Infantry mocks MI, it's how the world works. However, there were the ones who could barely count to potato. I suggest you look at some of the Field Artillery units for those guys.

/HUMINT!
 
2012-06-09 12:48:58 PM  
Strange but True and Slightly Tangential Story, Bro: Summer of 1997 I was riding a DOT bus on the Harper-Van Dyke route to get to work. I was without my own vehicle for a three-week period and had to rely on public transport to get to my job in a very sketchy area of Detroit. As a rule, I was the only white person on the bus, as I was on this particular evening. Climbed aboard at Van Dyke/Frontenac and took a seat near the front. There were two teenagers/maybe young 20-somethings conversing with each other very loudly and shouting out very rude (profanity-laced) remarks about other riders, including an elderly woman sitting by herself. After about 15 minutes this older man who'd been sitting alone reading a book stood up and confronted the teens with a rant of his own. "I did not risk my a** in Vietnam to come home and hear n-words like you show such disrespect. No one here wants to hear your farking foul mouths, we expect a peaceful ride on the bus." I was shrinking down in my seat and trying not to laugh out loud at his cuss word-laced diatribe against these kids for their foul mouths. Reminded me of my own Dad who used to admonish us "Watch your God-da**ed language!" He then yelled at the diminutive female driver "Bus driver, you stop this bus right now!" Surprisingly, she complied and Vietnam vet ordered the unruly youths off and they exited, even though he didn't brandish any sort of weapon. When the kids stepped off, several passengers applauded and the elderly woman hugged the vet and said "God bless you."
 
2012-06-09 12:56:56 PM  

Ouisch: Summer of 1997


The last sighting of a real man.
 
2012-06-09 01:38:16 PM  

Sider: Gunbarrel Road? Really?


Yep, and this is a major commercial street too.

/lol you crazy, Chattanooga
 
2012-06-09 03:50:36 PM  

snorkblaster: Yup: see, for example, Nicole duFresne, famous for last words that included "What are you going to do now, shoot us?"


Her situation was much more dangerous: the gunman in front of his girlfriend and friends.

In this man's situation, he had one-on-one moral authority. In hers, she was challenging the gunman in front of his friends, and he panicked at the potential loss of face.

In Nicole's situation, I want to know: where the hell was her fiance? The article you linked to says he was "further up the block" at the time of the shooting. If that's right, that's a complete failure to man up.
 
2012-06-09 04:58:58 PM  
"I said if you gonna shoot me then shoot me. I got a wife and three kids that you'll have to take care of." The implication being, "On the plus side, they'll be your problem now." Ah, family life!
 
2012-06-09 06:36:20 PM  

Sider: Gunbarrel Road? Really?


Octavious Malone? Really?

Oblivious Moran, perhaps.

/don't fark with old men. They ain't got nothin' left to lose.
 
2012-06-09 11:37:51 PM  
My son is a veteran of Afghanistan. He was home on leave, sitting at a stoplight, when a knife-wielding meth head tried to car jack him. The piece of human waste turned tail and ran when he saw my boy pulling his .45 1911 from his shoulder holster.

.45s make big, bloody holes in meth heads.
 
2012-06-09 11:42:40 PM  

MythDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.

You should either attend some sort of firearms training, or stop having guns.
As a gun owner, you owe it to yourself and everyone around you to be familiar with how your weapon works, or any weapon you hold.

See that loopy, holey thing directly across from the barrel? That's the hammer. You can pull it back to cock it. Now not all guns have external hammers. Not all guns even have a hammer. Those without hammers at least have a firing pin. Those without firing pins have hammers. (unless you have an electric ignition fire system, but that is somewhat uncommon.) Regardless of what makes contact with the primer, something has to cock. You might not see it, but when you pull the trigger, something is being pulled back so it can strike the casing. Unless the gun is single action only, then you HAVE to cock it.


You need a refresher course yourself... You have to cock the weapon in order to insert a round into the chamber. If you have a revolver you only need to cock the weapon if it is single action.
 
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