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(WRCB)   Gunman figures 67-year-old man would be an easy target. Sixty-seven-year-old combat veteran quickly disabuses him of his notion. "What I faced in Vietnam...no, it didn't shake me. It made me mad"   (wrcbtv.com) divider line 113
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2012-06-09 12:08:13 AM  
Who keeps breeding muggers?
 
2012-06-09 12:12:08 AM  

Ashtrey: Btw, by 'taking orders from the left' I mean 'hearing things said on the left side of my body' not anything political


Actually I just took it as the left side of the curve, considering you were testing with a bunch of idiots who couldn't pass, from my understanding, a general knowledge test.
 
2012-06-09 12:13:22 AM  

vudukungfu: rebelyell2006: (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).

My 75 year old first ex wife's dad was a retired ranger.
He carried cuffs and guns.
I was a green cop when I married his daughter.
I didn't mess with him.
He didn't mess with me.
he was glad to have her out of the house.


Your first ex-wife was 75?

/welcome
 
2012-06-09 12:14:48 AM  

Mad Tea Party: I'm so used to these "Old veteran kicks mugger's ass" headlines, I'd almost be surprised to see a headline where the old guy doesn't take down a punk.


Young man bests old man. That happens so often in muggings, it's not notable. They're just normal muggings.

The only reason there ARE headlines is because the role reversal.
 
2012-06-09 12:18:23 AM  

the_chief: Who keeps breeding muggers?


The welfare system!
 
2012-06-09 12:18:42 AM  

I Browse: croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.



Although I applaud what this guy did (it took a lot of guts)...things could've ended much differently.

"Shoot me if you're gonna shoot me!"

BANG!

Headline: 'Vietnam veteran shot dead over $600 in robbery'


Police advise against this because it might save your life, not to strip you of your dignity.


But either way they'll seize that cash. You know, just in case it was drug money.
 
2012-06-09 12:25:53 AM  
What he faced in 'nam was a lot of people desperately trying to defend their families from a foreign invading army. Fark him. Farking Nazi.
 
2012-06-09 12:26:18 AM  

Ashtrey: Btw, by 'taking orders from the left' I mean 'hearing things said on the left side of my body' not anything political.


Awww. You killed the joke I was going to make (even though I understood what you meant).
 
2012-06-09 12:26:42 AM  

Ashtrey: Avery614:

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). ...


Why the why did you even try to get into that branch if you are deaf in one ear? I mean, what with the 'a rifleman first' bit and all.
 
2012-06-09 12:33:37 AM  

DrPainMD: What he faced in 'nam was a lot of people desperately trying to defend their families from a foreign invading army. Fark him. Farking Nazi.


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-06-09 12:34:38 AM  
Sure is fascist and psychopathic in here. You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?
 
2012-06-09 12:37:26 AM  
Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn

[c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x399]


Does anyone else notice that that gun's barrel is filled with concrete?
 
2012-06-09 12:44:58 AM  
FraggleStickCar: You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?

1/10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unified_Assistance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unified_Response
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tomodachi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Support_Hope
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Provide_Hope
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pacific_Angel

As one US Admiral pointed out when the French sarcastically asked what we were going to do by sending a carrier group there (paraphrased):
French Admiral: What are you going to do with an aircraft carrier? Bomb it?
Response: Our aircraft carriers generate enough power to provide electricity for 3,000 homes without affecting operations, have a fully equipped medical facility capable of emergency treatment, water purification facilities, the resources to airlift food and supplies and we have eleven of them. How many does France have?
 
2012-06-09 12:50:43 AM  
I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.
 
2012-06-09 12:51:48 AM  

BronyMedic: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn

[c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x399]

Does anyone else notice that that gun's barrel is filled with concrete?


Yeah, I noticed that it's a stage gun. Funny that nobody in post production apparently noticed how fake it looks.
 
2012-06-09 12:53:39 AM  

croesius: the_chief: Who keeps breeding muggers?

The welfare system!


Tip your veal, try the waitress...
 
2012-06-09 12:54:32 AM  

A-Rth-Urp-Hil-Ipdenu: Ashtrey: Avery614:

Hell I tried to join the military as I graduated college in 2008 with a focus on residential design. I even tried to sign up SPECIFICALLY to learn discipline and responsibility. Turns out they still didn't want guys who were deaf in one ear (at least, Marines didn't). ...

Why the why did you even try to get into that branch if you are deaf in one ear? I mean, what with the 'a rifleman first' bit and all.


Probably an attempt to one-up, connect with, or just equal my grandfather the Army Ranger. Hey I was 24 years old and just out of a 6 year relationship, I wasn't thinking clearly.
 
2012-06-09 12:55:56 AM  
Yep, I'm going to go ahead and have to buy the brother a steak dinner next time I'm down that way. Hell, I'll even cover his folks if they're around at the time.
 
2012-06-09 12:57:26 AM  

BronyMedic: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Get off of my lawn

[c276161.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x399]

Does anyone else notice that that gun's barrel is filled with concrete?


That's not concrete.

Concrete has aggregate... rocks and stuff...

/I'm helping!!!
 
2012-06-09 12:59:54 AM  

Allen. The end.: mbillips: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.

You are 100 percent on. There are non-military people that rise to the occasion, and there are well-trained (I guess) military people that fold like crappy poker hands.


It's not just about the people. It's also about the occasion. But in this case, criminals don't deliberately choose deadly people as victims. Criminals try very hard to pick the most non-deadly people possible for their victims. Sometimes they screw up---criminals aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people. This 'Nam vet is a dangerous person. A whole lot of the vets coming home are, after some time to get their heads back together, going to settle into being garden variety joes who function okay in society but who, under the surface, are grumpy and dangerous to fark with.

In general, since I am not a fan of systems and people that randomly fark with others for no good reason, I think it is a good thing for busybodies in government or wherever else to be appropriately wary of randomly farking with people just because they can.

40 or so years from now, Iraq/Afghan veterans will be doing a good job of opening up the gas grill, lifting up the sacred citronella torch, and yelling the sacred war cry of their lawn, get the fark off it.

I have faith in them.
 
2012-06-09 01:00:44 AM  

Gyrfalcon: try the waitress...


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-09 01:04:03 AM  

Mister Peejay: mbillips: Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.

I am afraid that you may be on the wrong website, what with your "realistic points" and all.

/the correct answer is "I'ma stab him with my katana sword since swords are better than guns at close range"


No time to draw the sword. Better go for the palm strike in the classic and oft-seen driving of the nose bone into the brain.
 
2012-06-09 01:14:20 AM  

FraggleStickCar: Sure is fascist and psychopathic in here. You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?


Link Fun starts around 1:30...

blog.cytalk.com

thegreatdayofannihilation.files.wordpress.com
With... "A typical carrier air wing can include 12-14 F/A-18E or F Super Hornets as strike fighters; two squadrons of 10-12 F/A-18C Hornets, with one of these often provided by the U.S. Marine Corps (VMFA), also as strike fighters; 4-6 EA-6B Prowlers for electronic warfare; 4-6 E-2C Hawkeyes used for airborne early warning; C-2 Greyhounds used for logistics; and a Helicopter Antisubmarine Squadron of 6-8 SH-60F & HH-60H Seahawks. Aircraft that have previously operated from Nimitz-class carriers include F-14 Tomcats, S-3 Vikings, A-7 Corsair II and A-6E Intruder aircraft. or more on every one...

Fear is a powerful motivator my friend.


/feels pretty farking free by and large
//politicians on the other hand........
 
2012-06-09 01:16:28 AM  

Ashtrey: Probably an attempt to one-up, connect with, or just equal my grandfather the Army Ranger. Hey I was 24 years old and just out of a 6 year relationship, I wasn't thinking clearly.


Dude don't worry about it, I tried to enlist the day after my first (and only) DUI.....not one of my best moments.
 
2012-06-09 01:16:35 AM  
I used to work near Woodruff Park and the 5 Points Marta station in downtown Atlanta. Lovely historic building with one of the Big Four firms - really liked the job. What I hated is that whenever I left the building to grab lunch or just some fresh air, some young, able bodied guy in expensive clothes would hit me up for money or cigarettes. I politely demurred for a while but one day I'd had enough and I lit into him. "You have a hard working mama, I bet. What would she think of you mooching off a hard working woman? Why are you not working? If you are hungry, McDonalds is hiring and they will feed you too. Leave me the hell alone! I do not want you in my face ever again." From that day on, he'd turn the other direction when he saw me. Good. I'm the biggest softy in the world, and have compassion for many who probably don't deserve it but I also have no tolerance for laziness or thievery. In retrospect, I'm probably lucky he didn't shoot me, but it felt good and by damn, he left me alone from there on out. I hate that I've become cynical but I've seen enough episodes of "Intervention" to know that if they come to you with a sob story about needing gas, they probably are looking for you to buy them their next hit. When I travel I have my concealed carry license on me. I'm not looking for trouble, but by God don't bring it, please.

/Another liberal with a gun that knows how to use it, God forbid.
 
2012-06-09 01:20:03 AM  

FraggleStickCar: Sure is fascist and psychopathic in here. You realize the military has, by and large, done nothing to "protect our freedoms" in ~70 years?


Bye.
 
2012-06-09 01:25:37 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die the paper and pull the hangy down thing.


Mine does - it has no safety but does have a half-cock notch. I also fixed your post.
 
2012-06-09 01:26:32 AM  
My guess is that Mr. Veteran would not have done what he did if he hadn't sensed the little punk was, at heart, a cowardly pussy who could be talked into anything. The only thing that still might have given him pause is that one nervous twitch of the punk's finger would change the situation dramatically.
 
2012-06-09 01:36:45 AM  

Avery614: Ashtrey: Probably an attempt to one-up, connect with, or just equal my grandfather the Army Ranger. Hey I was 24 years old and just out of a 6 year relationship, I wasn't thinking clearly.

Dude don't worry about it, I tried to enlist the day after my first (and only) DUI.....not one of my best moments.


If you haven't had that kind of day, well you were much more responsible than me.
 
2012-06-09 01:39:25 AM  

Hagenhatesyouall: Avery614: FTA-Rutledge just doesn't understand the mentality of people like Malone. "What is wrong with them? I got drafted to go to Vietnam, I didn't have a choice. They got all the opportunities in the world now to make something of themselves but they don't want it," he said.

This is not a popular stance by any measure but this is as good an example as any as to why I think this country needs a conscription policy. If you want to live here and take advantage then you need to serve the country. Have objections to combat or a physical condition that makes you unfit for soldiering? That's fine, there are plenty of non-combat positions in the military. I think two years is plenty, 18-20 you belong to Uncle Sam. I think it could go a long way towards instilling discipline and responsibility in the younger generations, in addition to exposing them to many more life possibilities as a young adult. If you're wondering, yes I'm still young enough to be drafted, should they ever reinstate it. (30 is young enough I think...)

Conscription policy?

No.

The nation simply needs to raise and discipline their own farking kids.

The military doesn't need a bunch of farking spoiled brats, it's hard enough motivating volunteers, let alone a bunch of conscripted fat-back loser suburbanite / ghetto punks.

Besides, outside of Infantry organizations who can't afford to follow the political correct bullshiat policies espoused by our limp-wristed citizenry, the military is no longer a place of "discipline". Now it's about "equality" and "diversity" so the weak, stupid, and undisciplined can throw the race / gender card, and NOW they have the sexual orientation card to play as well.

You know what....fark it.

You're right.

Draft the motherfarkers. With all the bullshyte the military has to put up with due to political correctness, it doesn't really matter any more.

At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.


Newsletter?
 
2012-06-09 01:41:39 AM  

baronvonzipper: rebelyell2006: While I was hiding in an archives today, I read a newspaper article from ten years ago about a guy who tried to mug a retired Texas Ranger. The ex-ranger apparently subdued and cuffed the moron in less than a minute (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).

You should always have one of these handy:
www.handcuffwarehouse.com

/Still carry the cuffs




I still have one on my keyring even though I haven't carried cuffs in over 20 yrs. Never know when you might need it.
 
2012-06-09 01:47:27 AM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?



Have a flashback to one of their 4 or 5 psychologically-devastating tours and shoot the mugger in the face. Which wouldn't be entirely a bad thing.
 
2012-06-09 01:50:09 AM  

vudukungfu: rebelyell2006: (although why a 70-year-old retired Ranger was still carrying cuffs was not fully explained).

My 75 year old first ex wife's dad was a retired ranger.
He carried cuffs and guns.
I was a green cop when I married his daughter.
I didn't mess with him.
He didn't mess with me.
he was glad to have her out of the house.


Did he use one of these?
www.medcareproducts.com
 
2012-06-09 01:50:45 AM  
Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.
 
2012-06-09 02:03:31 AM  
Dear Criminals...Most Vietnam Vets only look old. They will explode on contact with your stupidity. You have been warned.
 
2012-06-09 02:26:24 AM  

Hawnkee: Yep, I'm going to go ahead and have to buy the brother a steak dinner next time I'm down that way. Hell, I'll even cover his folks if they're around at the time.


Or he could just make himself a dang quesadilla.
 
2012-06-09 02:58:02 AM  

croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.


They need to look like they're doing their job...

/pass the donuts
 
2012-06-09 02:59:31 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.


All firearms need to be cocked before they will fire, if I'm not mistaken.
 
2012-06-09 03:09:17 AM  

BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.


Awwww....

Perhaps your unit victim advocate can help you seek the grief counseling you so desperately need, snowflake. Or maybe your "first line supervisor" can give you a hug.
 
2012-06-09 03:41:40 AM  

Allen. The end.: mbillips: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Depends on the guy. Me (Iraq 06-07), I'd probably tell him to fark off, because I'd rather die for something than of something. But that's some braggadocious BS; nobody knows what they'd do in that situation until they're IN that situation.

You are 100 percent on. There are non-military people that rise to the occasion, and there are well-trained (I guess) military people that fold like crappy poker hands.


It is not about folding. Stupid is the man who loses his life over $600.

My life is worth more.... maybe yours isn't.


Likewise, I would not kill someone to protect such a small sum of money.
 
2012-06-09 05:03:02 AM  
Perp's lucky they didn't have to call the amerlamps!
 
2012-06-09 05:40:58 AM  

mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.


Well, my brother, who was in Gulf War I, almost beat the fark out of his wife when he was having war nightmares and she tried to wake him.
 
2012-06-09 06:08:30 AM  

buckler: mayIFark: 40 or so years from now, what would Iraq/Afgan veterans do in these type of situations?

/Just a hypothetical question.

Well, my brother, who was in Gulf War I, almost beat the fark out of his wife when he was having war nightmares and she tried to wake him.


She should have used a pointed stick.
 
2012-06-09 06:19:52 AM  
This man meets the progressive definition of a racist, a killing gun loving racist at that.
 
2012-06-09 07:01:37 AM  

vudukungfu: Napoleon v.s Octavius:
FIGHT!


tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com

vs.

images.zap2it.com

?

GAME ON!
 
2012-06-09 07:13:37 AM  

Sider: Gunbarrel Road? Really?


Why the disconnect? Take the Longmont Diagonal (Rt. 119) a few miles NE of Boulder, CO, then cut East = Profit. New home of Avery Brewing.
 
2012-06-09 07:22:40 AM  

I Browse: croesius: I like the part at the end where the police announce that this is not the proper way to react, and would rather you bow down, give up your dignity and possessions, and file a report later.

Although I applaud what this guy did (it took a lot of guts)...things could've ended much differently.

"Shoot me if you're gonna shoot me!"

BANG! ...


Yup: see, for example, Nicole duFresne, famous for last words that included "What are you going to do now, shoot us?"
 
2012-06-09 09:08:55 AM  
Hagenhatesyouall: BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.

Awwww....

Perhaps your unit victim advocate can help you seek the grief counseling you so desperately need, snowflake. Or maybe your "first line supervisor" can give you a hug.


Maybe you go tell that to the people who patch up our men and women, and are responsible for the lowest casualty rate of any war in history, troll.

/Not military. Bad lungs and bad knee.
//You're still a douche.
///More respect for the Coast Guard than I have for people like you.
 
2012-06-09 09:33:33 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I didnt know you could cock a 9mm.

I guess it could be a 9mm revolver...

Meh... What I don't know could fill a warehouse... so... whatever.

Just sounded funny to me.

/Mine doesn't cock. Just point it at what you want to die and pull the hangy down thing.


You should either attend some sort of firearms training, or stop having guns.
As a gun owner, you owe it to yourself and everyone around you to be familiar with how your weapon works, or any weapon you hold.
olive-drab.com
See that loopy, holey thing directly across from the barrel? That's the hammer. You can pull it back to cock it. Now not all guns have external hammers. Not all guns even have a hammer. Those without hammers at least have a firing pin. Those without firing pins have hammers. (unless you have an electric ignition fire system, but that is somewhat uncommon.) Regardless of what makes contact with the primer, something has to cock. You might not see it, but when you pull the trigger, something is being pulled back so it can strike the casing. Unless the gun is single action only, then you HAVE to cock it.
 
2012-06-09 09:45:17 AM  

BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: BronyMedic: Hagenhatesyouall: At least a draft will take some of the burden off the shoulders of those who actually volunteer to fight, as opposed to those who treat service as little more than welfare in uniform, doing as little as possible from the safety of a FOB or office.

You're only really in the military and worthy of praise for doing so only if you pick up a rifle and charge in with the 11 Bang Bangs, right?

/My head. You're making it hurt with the facepalm I just did from reading this.

Awwww....

Perhaps your unit victim advocate can help you seek the grief counseling you so desperately need, snowflake. Or maybe your "first line supervisor" can give you a hug.

Maybe you go tell that to the people who patch up our men and women, and are responsible for the lowest casualty rate of any war in history, troll.

/Not military. Bad lungs and bad knee.
//You're still a douche.
///More respect for the Coast Guard than I have for people like you.


Apparently he doesn't understand that for every dumb grunt who likes to point his bang stick at things and make it go boom, there are 7 REMFs who, in addition to sitting on their asses playing videogames in the A/C, are making sure he gets paid, gets fed, gets bullets, has fuel, has coms, doesn't get placed so that he is shooting at his own forces, has medical treatment, and has a ride home. And 'FOB safety' doesn't mean all that much when your ass gets mortared on a daily basis.
Either he wasn't smart enough to get a job that let him sit on the FOB, or he was and decided to go be a bullet catcher anyway, in which case I've got no sympathy for him either way. You got your job, we got ours. Neither can work without the other. If you don't complain about me sitting in the A/C all day, I won't complain when you come in the comms tent reaking of 3 day old swamp-ass.
 
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