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Fark site move (and 2-4 hours downtime) on the evening of Sat June 30. We'll try to webcast the carnage 
Posted by Mike at 2012-06-23 4:41:03 PM, edited 2012-06-29 10:55:20 PM (453 comments) | Permalink
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On the evening of Saturday, June 30, we'll be moving all of Fark's equipment to a new colocation provider.

We'll be down for a couple of hours while this happens, starting around 7 pm US/Eastern time, probably between two and four hours... hopefully closer to two. We'll keep a static copy of all the main pages and tabs up on a temporary web server, so you'll still have something to read. Comments, user profiles, link submissions, mobile apps, user profiles, and all of TotalFark will be down during the move though.

All of our numeric IP addresses will change during this move. We'll take the usual steps** to try to ensure your ISP picks up the change as fast as possible. Worst case, you might have to reboot your computer once after we move. We'll have directions up (at the old IP address) explaining what to do at that point, so no worries.

Last time we did this, in October 2006, we were moving the servers 500 miles. This time we're moving them about 500 feet, or about one block down the street. So we won't be down anywhere near as long. Still, it takes a while to disassemble a full rack's worth of gear, roll it down the street, and re-bolt it into a new rack, and change all the IP addresses... longer if it decides to rain that night.

We're also going to try to webcast the carnage, and the before & after drinking, on this Ustream channel, because, hey, why the hell not, it might be funny... assuming we can get it working over 3G/LTE... More details will be posted here, on our outage page, and on the main site if necessary...


** the usual steps = dropping DNS TTL's down and changing root nameserver glue records a full week in advance

Some new complications w/ getting out of the old building may mean this takes a few hours longer than expected, but, hopefully not. :)


Yes, there are very good reasons for not "just putting it in the cloud". Read the entire thread before suggesting it. :)
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2012-06-23 05:46:17 PM
So it was hosted on MobileMe?
 
2012-06-23 05:48:01 PM
I'll get over it. May I suggest for that one night, you sprinkle foobies links on the static image on the main page?
 
2012-06-23 05:48:45 PM

Nem Wan: So it was hosted on MobileMe?


Close, myspace.
 
2012-06-23 05:49:37 PM
"We're also going to try to webcast the carnage"

Discovery Channel and TLC already in bidding wars (which you can watch on History Channel) over this content.
 
2012-06-23 05:51:14 PM
but first, we need to decide what city the aliens should nuke.
 
2012-06-23 05:51:35 PM
Cool. See ya on Tuesday (if it goes anything like our server moves do).
 
2012-06-23 05:52:07 PM
Last time we did this, in October 2006,

how time flies.
 
2012-06-23 05:52:09 PM
I just want to tell you, good luck. We're all counting on you.
 
2012-06-23 05:52:57 PM
Looks like they were with Open World, Inc.

Who is the new host, Drew?

/Works in colocation.
//Professional interest.
 
2012-06-23 05:53:15 PM
Is there a designated drinker during this move?
 
2012-06-23 05:54:33 PM

God-is-a-Taco: Discovery Channel and TLC already in bidding wars (which you can watch on History Channel) over this content.


cf.badassdigest.com
 
2012-06-23 05:55:05 PM
"Last time we did this, in October 2006, we were moving the servers 500 miles. This time we're moving them about 500 feet..."

So you would move the server 500 miles and you would move it 500 feet more just to be the Fark.com to move over 500 miles to melt down on the new server's floor. With some Maker's Mark.
 
2012-06-23 05:55:10 PM

Honest Bender: Who is the new host, Drew?


QX. We prefer working with local folks when we can.
 
2012-06-23 05:58:33 PM
Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?
 
2012-06-23 06:03:11 PM

Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?


When you type in www.fark.com, it translates that to a numeric address, and remembers it for a while so it doesn't have to keep re-translating it over and over. That numeric address is going to change, so if your computer remembers it for too long, it'll keep going to the old one when we change it. The fastest way (but not the only way) to make it forget the old one is to reboot...

But we have taken some steps that should minimize the length of time it remembers things, so hopefully you won't have to... and hopefully things will just plain work. :)
 
2012-06-23 06:03:46 PM

Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?


In other words, you might be running Windows. Any time Windows encounters something that's out of the ordinary (or even well-within the ordinary), a reboot is often required.
 
2012-06-23 06:03:47 PM

Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?


So the tubes can recalibrate to the flux capacitor. Standard procedure.
 
2012-06-23 06:05:05 PM
password "letchowmein"
 
2012-06-23 06:06:16 PM
When did Drew give up his ISP business?
 
2012-06-23 06:07:06 PM

gingerjet: When did Drew give up his ISP business?


March 2002
 
2012-06-23 06:07:09 PM

Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?


YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.
 
2012-06-23 06:12:56 PM
Don't do it, man. Do you know what would happen if the Fark politics tab regular attendees had nothing to do for that long?
Blood in the streets don't begin to describe it.
 
2012-06-23 06:15:17 PM

Mike: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

When you type in www.fark.com, it translates that to a numeric address, and remembers it for a while so it doesn't have to keep re-translating it over and over. That numeric address is going to change, so if your computer remembers it for too long, it'll keep going to the old one when we change it. The fastest way (but not the only way) to make it forget the old one is to reboot...

But we have taken some steps that should minimize the length of time it remembers things, so hopefully you won't have to... and hopefully things will just plain work. :)


Ah. That makes sense. Thanks, Mike! Good luck with the move particulars.
 
2012-06-23 06:16:36 PM

Gunz_drawn: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.


"Re-start string?" Are you using a lawn mower as a power supply? THAT would make a cool video!
 
2012-06-23 06:17:37 PM
I still haven't recovered from the October '06 move. I wake up in a cold sweat on the anniversary each year.
 
2012-06-23 06:18:07 PM
iIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!,


*curls into a fetal position*
 
2012-06-23 06:18:12 PM
I guess Drew wants to make sure that the servers can handle the onslaught of derp this November come election time.
 
2012-06-23 06:18:57 PM
But will we get over it?
 
2012-06-23 06:19:47 PM
"Last time we did this, in October 2006, we were moving the servers 500 miles. ."

...and this happened by the time they got back up:

sharetv.org
 
2012-06-23 06:20:59 PM
and all of TotalFark will be down during the move though.

I demand a refund.
 
2012-06-23 06:21:53 PM
Shouldn't there be an associated Fark party so we can all push/carry/tow/buildrocketsled to relocate the servers? Maybe with a prize for best costume?

I think your PR agency needs a quick firin' for missing this opp.
 
2012-06-23 06:22:56 PM

Gunz_drawn: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.


Start>Run>cmd Type ipconfig /flushdns
 
2012-06-23 06:23:13 PM

lockers: Nem Wan: So it was hosted on MobileMe?

Close, myspace.


Geocities.
 
2012-06-23 06:24:23 PM
Windoze users can run cmd as administrator and run "ipconfig /flushdns". This will cause your machine to load new addresses.

No cure for for root dns server propagation. That is when the internets gets Fark.com new numbers.
 
2012-06-23 06:24:43 PM

Nem Wan: So it was hosted on MobileMe?


So. Much. Win.

I do private tech support. I've made a TON over the last few weeks migrating Mobile Me clients to iCloud[tm]
 
2012-06-23 06:25:05 PM
Mike - Will there be an award for the farker who gets the last post before the site goes down?
 
2012-06-23 06:25:07 PM

LaughingRadish: In other words, you might be running Windows. Any time Windows encounters something that's out of the ordinary (or even well-within the ordinary), a reboot is often required.


i.imgur.com

That's why I only run OS/2 Warp 4.

Nary a problem with my Netscape Navigator.
 
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2012-06-23 06:25:55 PM

BoboRod: Gunz_drawn: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.

Start>Run>cmd Type ipconfig /flushdns


This.

This is not the fastest way? I could walk my grandmother through this easily enough.

Once again you show us just how much respect you have for your users, Mike.
 
2012-06-23 06:26:20 PM

Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?


You don't, we're just looking to see how many idiots fall for this and you're the first.
 
2012-06-23 06:26:26 PM

skinink: So you would move the server 500 miles and you would move it 500 feet more just to be the Fark.com to move over 500 miles to melt down on the new server's floor. With some Maker's Mark.


...

Well done.
 
2012-06-23 06:27:06 PM
You said "rack" twice. You like racks?

*giggles*
 
2012-06-23 06:27:22 PM
Change the TTL value on the DNS record to 5 minutes or something short. That should speed up the propagation of the DNS
 
2012-06-23 06:27:31 PM

Mike: But we have taken some steps that should minimize the length of time it remembers things.


www.brianweb.net
 
2012-06-23 06:28:09 PM
Here's roughly the exchange we had when planning a move.

Geeks: We're going to have a one to two day outage to move the equipment to the new colo in another state.
Middle managers: We can't have an outage!
Geeks: Then you'll have to give us the budget to buy duplicate equipment.
Middle managers: You can't have the money. Find another way.
Geeks: We can get by moving half the servers at a time with some reduced performance, but it's not possible without another filer. You need to give us the budget for another filer, which we need anyway.
Middle managers: You can't have any money. Just figure out how to move everything without downtime.
Geek: Are you really that stupid?

Note, the last line was not spoken out loud.
 
2012-06-23 06:28:19 PM
You mean I may have to interact with actual humans during the outage?

For you Toronto farkers, Illusiniod, featuring farker Nug, have a show at the comedy bar that night.
 
2012-06-23 06:29:13 PM
oh no
whatever will I do with myself all night?

oh yeah, cigarettes and rape.
 
2012-06-23 06:29:16 PM
I read that entire blog post in the voice of the narrator from the 1960's Batman show.

It needs more wacky alliteration, is what I'm trying to say.
 
2012-06-23 06:30:07 PM
Fark goes down... post ponies!!!i!1!!

Oh wait...
 
2012-06-23 06:30:38 PM

Third In Line: You said "rack" twice. You like racks?

*giggles*


www.userfriendly.org

/oblig
/hot like a server with a busted case fan
 
2012-06-23 06:30:39 PM
TMLO apparently already got into the MM.
 
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