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2012-06-08 03:06:19 PM  

DemoKnite: Glenford: RexTalionis: Invented FOR Americans, subby, not by.

Ordinary Americans, however, didn't cotton to traditional Hunan cuisine, so one enterprising chef (one Peng Chang-kuei, according to the claims) battered and deep-fried the chicken, and then added sugar

Yup, definitely for Americans.

Which is why I hate American Chinese food. Everything is too damned sweet, there is no aromatic crispy duck or prawn toast, and it's ALL buffets outside of major cities (PF Changs and Pei Wei don't count).


yeah, really glad that after moving to a big city I was able to find stuff slightly more authentic. You can always tell on the menu though, whats 'real' Chinese food and whats Americanized. Friends and I usually get a mix.
 
2012-06-08 03:06:32 PM  
And what about Pizza? Are we too close to the original for it to count?

Still greatly miss my Grandmother's sfincione... thick crust, drenched in olive oil... topped with onion, anchovy, tomato and Romano cheese.

/Mmmmmmmmmm... sfincione.
//Dago.
 
2012-06-08 03:07:45 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Apparently masala sauce was invented by Pakistanis in England Glasgow, Scotland. Doesn't make it any less delicious.


FTFY. The Indian / Pakistani restaurants in Britain are fantastic - Asian chefs come here to learn how to cook. Dammit, I now want pakora.
 
2012-06-08 03:08:02 PM  

gilatrout: I love asking my Chinese buddy, when he starts complaining about what passes for Chinese food here, "Well then, how do they make Crab Rangoon in China?".


The Sous at the restaurant i worked at for a spell was Chinese (HK actually). One day we stumped him bay asking, "Hey, when you go home does your mom cook food or Chinese food?" stopped him dead for about 15 seconds.
 
2012-06-08 03:08:55 PM  

DemoKnite: ALL buffets outside of major cities


Huh?

I live in a mid-sized Midwestern city. We do have plenty of buffets but also a lot on little sit-down places. We even have some pretty authentic places with real dim sum including chicken feet.
 
2012-06-08 03:09:45 PM  

ScotterOtter: I hate it when people put down Americanized ethnic food. Other cultures just flat out refuse to be inspired by foreign cuisine. We may change it, but we also embrace it


Agreed, unless its a fast food version of foreign cuisine.

Other than things like nachos, which are best in their original, cheap American style.
 
2012-06-08 03:10:22 PM  

thewulf: Nabb1: oldfarthenry: Five loonies says they'll claim to have invented poutine, too.

`Dammit, it has 300% of your recommended fat intake! Of course it's 'merikun!'

Doubtful. No one in this country wants to lay claim to f*cking up french fries in such a horrid manner.

You watch your filthy mouth, boy...

[foodguymontreal.com image 400x353]

/Fark yea


I was just trolling oldfarthenry right back. He has some sort of weird fixation on Americans' weight and the War of 1812.
 
2012-06-08 03:10:52 PM  
they messed up with the Nachos,

While they got the story right, the story clearly states that it was invented in Mexico, not the united states.


I know, I know.. apples and oranges and what not.

But it must be stated that the American heritage and experience of food and culture is that we are that... proverbial melting pot. and there are thousands of of ethnic groups that we draw off of for our collective experience.

wasn't pizza as we know it invented in New Orleans?
 
2012-06-08 03:11:27 PM  
Another awesome ethnic food, since you know, Hawaii is like another country and all...

www.aldenteblog.com
 
2012-06-08 03:12:44 PM  
Americans also discovered America since whoever discovered it first(you historians can debate this) was no longer in their country of origin. I like this kind of logic.
 
2012-06-08 03:13:19 PM  
I used to be snobby on "inauthentic" ethnic dishes like california roll/general tso, but then I realized that all food is a mishmash of whatever cultures happened to run together with whatever ingredients were on hand. Food doesn't exist as a time capsule, it constantly evolves. It's created by humans for whatever time and place humans are living in.

So enjoy your General Tso's chicken. I love it's deep fried, oversweetened ridiculousness.
 
2012-06-08 03:13:45 PM  

imprimere: Another awesome ethnic food, since you know, Hawaii is like another country and all...

[www.aldenteblog.com image 500x375]


WTF is that!??!

(I'd guess "upper decker")
 
2012-06-08 03:14:23 PM  
I can't quite understand why Americans on the internet hate poutine so much, while Americans I met in person usually like (or at least not disguised by) poutine.

I remember dunking my own fries in gravy in Hong Kong before moving to Canada... not knowing it's a real dish in the other side of the world..

/also missing on the list, chicken balls with sweet & sour sauce.
 
2012-06-08 03:14:32 PM  

ScotterOtter: I hate it when people put down Americanized ethnic food. Other cultures just flat out refuse to be inspired by foreign cuisine. We may change it, but we also embrace it


Which specific other cultures are these?
 
2012-06-08 03:15:03 PM  

ScotterOtter: I hate it when people put down Americanized ethnic food.

I agree. Other cultures just flat out refuse to be inspired by foreign cuisine. We may change it, but we also embrace it Actually, most (if not all) countries have some bastardized or borrowed form of another country's food. We just happen to be the biggest melting pot, and probably the one country where you can get a bit of everything - including authentic stuff when you venture into truly ethnic neighborhoods.
 
2012-06-08 03:15:21 PM  
Chipotle. Greatest ethnic food ever.
 
2012-06-08 03:15:36 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: wasn't pizza as we know it invented in New Orleans?


I know quite a bit about New Orleans history, even the quirky stuff, and what stuff is urban legend.

And since I've also lived in Chicago, I know enough about pizza history.

I've never heard that one. Not saying you're wrong... just never heard such a thing.
 
2012-06-08 03:15:47 PM  
Damn, this thread is making me hungry.
 
2012-06-08 03:17:37 PM  

woodstock827: I can't quite understand why Americans on the internet hate poutine so much, while Americans I met in person usually like (or at least not disguised by) poutine.



You won't get any hate from me....I made some at home why watching the opening ceremonies when the Winter Olympics were in Vancouver.

However....

After eating it and washing it down with some Molson Canadian, I felt nothing but shame....like I had just has sex with a hooker....without a jimmy hat.
 
2012-06-08 03:17:37 PM  

Aarontology: Who the hell considers nachos ethnic?


White people
 
2012-06-08 03:17:46 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I used to be snobby on "inauthentic" ethnic dishes like california roll/general tso, but then I realized that all food is a mishmash of whatever cultures happened to run together with whatever ingredients were on hand. Food doesn't exist as a time capsule, it constantly evolves. It's created by humans for whatever time and place humans are living in.


Very well said. Sometimes people of one culture have to adapt their cuisine to what is available when they move someplace new. People need to be more flexible about such things.

Except in the case of Olive Garden. I want those assholes brought before the Hague on charges of crimes against humanity.
 
2012-06-08 03:17:50 PM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: imprimere: Another awesome ethnic food, since you know, Hawaii is like another country and all...

[www.aldenteblog.com image 500x375]

WTF is that!??!

(I'd guess "upper decker")


Loco Moco... and AWESOME.
 
2012-06-08 03:17:51 PM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: imprimere: Another awesome ethnic food, since you know, Hawaii is like another country and all...

[www.aldenteblog.com image 500x375]

WTF is that!??!

(I'd guess "upper decker")


It's called a Loco Moco. I fell in love in Waikiki. It is a bed of rice, with a hamburger patty on top, with a fried egg(s) on top, covered in brown gravy. FARK YEA!
 
2012-06-08 03:18:03 PM  

Brytanica1: I love me some General Tso's.


My father made his version of General Tso's chicken only once. It was amazing. The chicken was soaked in honey water in the fridge for two days.
 
2012-06-08 03:18:06 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I used to be snobby on "inauthentic" ethnic dishes like california roll/general tso, but then I realized that all food is a mishmash


Exactly. No such thing as "inauthentic ethnic". Asian countries all borrowed from each other.

Heck, some of the most significant explorations in world history were to seek out food, spices, etc.
 
2012-06-08 03:18:13 PM  

Land Ark: [whatscookingamerica.net image 359x241]
Mmmmm, chimichanga.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-08 03:18:19 PM  
Taking a guess before I RTFA...

Pizza, Tacos, Spaghetti w/tomato sauce and/or meatballs...not sure what else off the top of my head.

And after...
Wow, no pizza on there? Glad they got spaghetti and meatballs at least.
 
2012-06-08 03:18:20 PM  

imprimere: meat0918: BKITU: meat0918: What about the California roll?

Layer the nori, rice, imitation crab, julienne carrots, slices of avocado, dab of wasabi, roll it up, call it sushi.

//Still likes them, but eel(unagi) is the best.

There might be a clue in the name that it's not supposed to be an authentic Japanese dish.

Yeah, but I know people that think it is, despite the name.

Provided it's the correct rice, it is sushi!

This

. Having tried both, I'd take a California roll over eel any day. (Could not get the eel down. It is most definitely not to my liking.) Shrimp nigiri is probably my favorite, though it's a toss-up between that and inari...

/drooling over sushi
 
2012-06-08 03:19:52 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: And what about Pizza? Are we too close to the original for it to count?

Still greatly miss my Grandmother's sfincione... thick crust, drenched in olive oil... topped with onion, anchovy, tomato and Romano cheese.

/Mmmmmmmmmm... sfincione.
//Dago.


Pizza made in America, bears minimal resemblance to the original Italian stuff.

Nothing wrong with modifying "ethnic" foods to match your palate... unless it's the bizarre crap the Japanese put on pizza.
 
2012-06-08 03:20:09 PM  

RexTalionis: Invented FOR Americans, subby, not by.


in some of the cases, the dishes were invented by americans for immigrants, if you RTFA

Ask for "Springfield-style Cashew Chicken" and you'll get the battered and deep-fried original.

yeah, i am sure my local chinese restaurant will know what springfield-style cashew chicken is.
 
2012-06-08 03:20:36 PM  

Draskuul: Wow, no pizza on there? Glad they got spaghetti and meatballs at least.


Well, pizza is a close enough adaptation to an Itallian dish. And "pizza" means a lot of things. Just wiki "Pizza in America" and see all the varieties.

I think the story of "pizza" is a bit too complicated to make it on this list.
 
2012-06-08 03:20:38 PM  

Canton: This. Having tried both, I'd take a California roll over eel any day. (Could not get the eel down. It is most definitely not to my liking.) Shrimp nigiri is probably my favorite, though it's a toss-up between that and inari...

/drooling over sushia



tEAM SPIDER ROLL checking in.
 
2012-06-08 03:20:53 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I used to be snobby on "inauthentic" ethnic dishes like california roll/general tso, but then I realized that all food is a mishmash of whatever cultures happened to run together with whatever ingredients were on hand. Food doesn't exist as a time capsule, it constantly evolves. It's created by humans for whatever time and place humans are living in.

So enjoy your General Tso's chicken. I love it's deep fried, oversweetened ridiculousness.


I once said this on Chowhound and got pummeled for it. It was awesome, because holy fark "foodies" are dumber than shiat.
 
2012-06-08 03:21:15 PM  

Nabb1: Rapmaster2000: I used to be snobby on "inauthentic" ethnic dishes like california roll/general tso, but then I realized that all food is a mishmash of whatever cultures happened to run together with whatever ingredients were on hand. Food doesn't exist as a time capsule, it constantly evolves. It's created by humans for whatever time and place humans are living in.

Very well said. Sometimes people of one culture have to adapt their cuisine to what is available when they move someplace new. People need to be more flexible about such things.

Except in the case of Olive Garden. I want those assholes brought before the Hague on charges of crimes against humanity.


I loved their commercial that went something like "my cousin, Sal, was in Sicily... so we took him to the Olive Garden!"

And then everyone goes "ayyyyyyyyyy, oooooooh, ayyyyyyy" for the rest of the commercial.

Olive Garden: the choice of Americanized Italian stereotypes.
 
2012-06-08 03:21:51 PM  
I would like to take this opportunity to thank St. Louis for giving us toasted ravioli.
 
2012-06-08 03:22:21 PM  

Fano: Pray 4 Mojo: And what about Pizza? Are we too close to the original for it to count?

Still greatly miss my Grandmother's sfincione... thick crust, drenched in olive oil... topped with onion, anchovy, tomato and Romano cheese.

/Mmmmmmmmmm... sfincione.
//Dago.

Pizza made in America, bears minimal resemblance to the original Italian stuff.


Italians didn't invent pizza. The Greeks did. It's way older than you think it.
 
2012-06-08 03:22:28 PM  
KFC's Redneck Bowl
www.kfc.com
/redneck is an ethnicity, right?
 
2012-06-08 03:23:48 PM  
Americans aren't the only people who do this. If you go eat "Chinese" food with Korean people, chances are good that they will take you to a place that serves jjajangmyun, which are noodles in a thick, black bean paste, and jjambbong, which is a spicy seafood stew. Korean people love that shiat, but it's about as Chinese as fortune cookies.
 
2012-06-08 03:24:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I loved their commercial that went something like "my cousin, Sal, was in Sicily... so we took him to the Olive Garden!"

And then everyone goes "ayyyyyyyyyy, oooooooh, ayyyyyyy" for the rest of the commercial.

Olive Garden: the choice of Americanized Italian stereotypes.



I remember their commercial where this uncle visits from Italy, and they take him to "Palmolive Garden". Yeesh....that would be like me visiting family in Europe, and they take me to McDonald's. Actually, what they did to their uncle was worse.
 
2012-06-08 03:24:44 PM  
My chicken fried steak is getting a kick out of this thread.
 
2012-06-08 03:25:03 PM  

Shazam999: Italians didn't invent pizza. The Greeks did. It's way older than you think it.



IIRC, some parts of Croatia claim that they invented it.
 
2012-06-08 03:25:07 PM  

Nabb1: Except in the case of Olive Garden. I want those assholes brought before the Hague on charges of crimes against humanity.


If there's a petition to sign... or legal fund to donate to... or rally to attend... newsletter to subscribe to... or some other way I can help this happen... please let me know.

Shocking that they're owned by the same dipshiats that own Red Lobster.

/Hate is strong.
 
2012-06-08 03:25:25 PM  
Would love to find a roti food truck

Roti -- A Carribean food with Indian origin. Indian flatbread (roti) with potatos, curry, and some kind of meat. Can be served as a wrap or pita style. Quick, cheap, and portable -- the perfect lunch food.
 
2012-06-08 03:25:51 PM  

Antimatter:

yeah, really glad that after moving to a big city I was able to find stuff slightly more authentic. You can always tell on the menu though, whats 'real' Chinese food and whats Americanized. Friends and I usually get a mix.


Find a place where the menu is in Chinese w/ no translation. That would be the place with the authentic food. You might have to bring someone to translate. We bring Xiaobo.
 
2012-06-08 03:25:57 PM  

Rostin: Americans aren't the only people who do this. If you go eat "Chinese" food with Korean people, chances are good that they will take you to a place that serves jjajangmyun, which are noodles in a thick, black bean paste, and jjambbong, which is a spicy seafood stew. Korean people love that shiat, but it's about as Chinese as fortune cookies.


Uh, no. Both are most definitely Chinese, but the implementation is different for both. Having said that, I've eaten Chinese-style jjajangmyun and it's pretty damn close to Korean-style.
 
2012-06-08 03:26:10 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Shocking that they're owned by the same dipshiats that own Red Lobster.



CSB:

In my town we have both....and they are literally next door to each other.
 
2012-06-08 03:26:30 PM  

Shazam999: Rapmaster2000: I used to be snobby on "inauthentic" ethnic dishes like california roll/general tso, but then I realized that all food is a mishmash of whatever cultures happened to run together with whatever ingredients were on hand. Food doesn't exist as a time capsule, it constantly evolves. It's created by humans for whatever time and place humans are living in.

So enjoy your General Tso's chicken. I love it's deep fried, oversweetened ridiculousness.

I once said this on Chowhound and got pummeled for it. It was awesome, because holy fark "foodies" are dumber than shiat.


The only thing I'll get all "foodie" on is when food is focused grouped, mass produced, and reheated a la Applebee's. I'm not opposed to chains on the basis of popularity or snobbery (I love Chipotle), but that the food has been optimized by bean counters and focus grouped to be just bland enough that nobody hates it... but nobody really loves it either.

/yes, i realize chipotle does sous-vide for their pork and barbacoa
//and that real barbacoa is head
///but have you ever had real barbacoa? it's an advanced meal for americanized tastes like mine
 
2012-06-08 03:26:31 PM  

The_Sponge: Canton: This. Having tried both, I'd take a California roll over eel any day. (Could not get the eel down. It is most definitely not to my liking.) Shrimp nigiri is probably my favorite, though it's a toss-up between that and inari...

/drooling over sushia


tEAM SPIDER ROLL checking in.


My local sushi place has started making one with a jalapeno slice on top. I don't know what they call it, but I call it heaven.
 
2012-06-08 03:26:50 PM  
Would love to find a roti food truck

Roti -- A Carribean food with Indian origin. Indian flatbread (roti) with potatoes, curry, and some kind of meat -- beef, chicken, pork, conch. Can be served as a wrap or pita style. Quick, cheap, and portable -- the perfect lunch food.
 
2012-06-08 03:27:01 PM  
FTA:
In 1907, Mayor of San Francisco James Phelan fired Hagiwara for the offense of being Japanese

He must have lied on his application. The mayor was devestated when he learned of the betrayal. They'd worked side-by-side for years without the mayor finding out the truth.
 
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