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2012-06-08 11:49:25 AM
I agree with Wall. Mulcair has not been thinking like a prime minister in waiting should be. He is thinking only of his base in Quebec, and thereby alienating the west. He essentially is trying to blame the west for Quebec and Ontario's mismanagement. Which needless to say is not going over very well in a region where policies like the NEP still get regurgitated on a weekly basis.
 
2012-06-08 11:52:26 AM
Yup, I like Wall. He's a good premier for a province with so many natural resources. Between potash, oil, uranium and agriculture there is no reason that Saskatchewan can't be even better off than Alberta. It's good to see him stand up and be definitive about supporting industry in Saskatchewan.

Mulcair seems content to pander to Quebec and to a lesser extent Ontario.
 
2012-06-08 12:07:02 PM
Mulcair is the best thing to happen to the Liberals in recent memory.
 
2012-06-08 12:26:18 PM
Wall exhibits the typical short term thinking of most politicians. "Exploit the resources now, we'll worry about cleanup later. What's the worst that can happen?" and "If we ignore the CO2 issue long enough, it'll just fix itself."

For all the complaints about Mulcair's reference to the Dutch disease, no one had really refuted it. Price of oil goes up, so does the dollar, price of oil goes down, the dollar follows.

Ontario and Quebec have other long term problems after generations of miss-management, Ontario from idiotic Harris government policies (big tax cuts, little government cuts), Quebec from unfunded social programs. The high dollar is exacerbating the issue, but isn't a fundamental cause.

Blaming the West does play well in central Canada, and given that he is now in a tie with Harper and that metro Toronto has the same population as Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, this could be a gambit that pays off for him.

/Saskatchewan Liberal from Ralph Goodale's riding.
 
2012-06-08 12:33:40 PM

Big_Thumb: Wall exhibits the typical short term thinking of most politicians. "Exploit the resources now, we'll worry about cleanup later. What's the worst that can happen?" and "If we ignore the CO2 issue long enough, it'll just fix itself."

For all the complaints about Mulcair's reference to the Dutch disease, no one had really refuted it. Price of oil goes up, so does the dollar, price of oil goes down, the dollar follows.

Ontario and Quebec have other long term problems after generations of miss-management, Ontario from idiotic Harris government policies (big tax cuts, little government cuts), Quebec from unfunded social programs. The high dollar is exacerbating the issue, but isn't a fundamental cause.

Blaming the West does play well in central Canada, and given that he is now in a tie with Harper and that metro Toronto has the same population as Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, this could be a gambit that pays off for him.

/Saskatchewan Liberal from Ralph Goodale's riding.


Blaming the west only does one thing alienates a part of the country against you. They will then never vote for the party again, and when quebec resumes being a fickle mistress when it comes to political parties as it always does, there will be no base for Mulcair to suck up to. It's really shortsightedness on Mulcair's part.
 
2012-06-08 12:38:40 PM

Big_Thumb: Wall exhibits the typical short term thinking of most politicians. "Exploit the resources now, we'll worry about cleanup later. What's the worst that can happen?" and "If we ignore the CO2 issue long enough, it'll just fix itself."

For all the complaints about Mulcair's reference to the Dutch disease, no one had really refuted it. Price of oil goes up, so does the dollar, price of oil goes down, the dollar follows.

Ontario and Quebec have other long term problems after generations of miss-management, Ontario from idiotic Harris government policies (big tax cuts, little government cuts), Quebec from unfunded social programs. The high dollar is exacerbating the issue, but isn't a fundamental cause.

Blaming the West does play well in central Canada, and given that he is now in a tie with Harper and that metro Toronto has the same population as Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, this could be a gambit that pays off for him.

/Saskatchewan Liberal from Ralph Goodale's riding.


Having grown up in Saskatchewan and working for an environmental company in Calgary, I can assure you that Saskatchewan and Alberta both have strong regulatory structures in place. It's hardly like a new project can start up without a good environmental plan. For example every oilsands project has to include reclamation costs to return the land to something close to pre-project conditions. So the polluter pay system has actually always been there. Mulcair essentially is trying to get a second set of payments from the companies.

The particular problem I have with Mulcair is that he's using the Dutch disease angle to say that, look if I grind the oil industry into the ground it's a good thing for Central Canada. My response to that is too damn bad. Central Canada should be adapting to the changes in the markets instead of changing the markets to their needs, which is what Mulcair advocates.

Oh and I see you are from Regina. I spent my childhood (and when I visit my dad) pissing in the lake you get your drinking water from (Buffalo Pound). enjoy!

Go Riders!
 
2012-06-08 12:46:29 PM
Quickly scanned the header and mistook Saskatchewan for Sasquatch. A little disappointed right now.
 
2012-06-08 12:48:38 PM

Big_Thumb: Blaming the West does play well in central Canada, and given that he is now in a tie with Harper and that metro Toronto has the same population as Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, this could be a gambit that pays off for him.

/Saskatchewan Liberal from Ralph Goodale's riding.


The gambit can also backfire royally when the once-disaffected, business-minded Liberals, particularly central Canadian ones, who supported Layton's NDP return to their original party that's in reconstruction mode.
 
2012-06-08 12:52:12 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses:

Oh and I see you are from Regina. I spent my childhood (and when I visit my dad) pissing ...


stay classy
 
2012-06-08 12:56:51 PM

gremzo: Representative of the unwashed masses:

Oh and I see you are from Regina. I spent my childhood (and when I visit my dad) pissing ...

stay classy


What? He lives on the shore of Buffalo Pound Lake. don't tell me you don't take a leak in a lake when you are swimming.
 
2012-06-08 01:37:40 PM
I am from Regina, now living in Toronto, and I support any policy that hurts Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan is the 10th level of Hell and prosperity is wasted on such a place. The locals are the Delta Force of rednecks, the climate is a natural disaster and the cultural scene is tours of the old Corner Gas set followed by a week long group bender. Anything that farks my old home province over and benefits Central Canada is A-OK by me.
 
2012-06-08 01:44:11 PM
Subby, it's

"Come at me bro, eh!??"

but first you have to say it in French

"Venez a moi frere, eh!?!"

Let's be respectful of our Northern Neighbors.

/YEAH, AND THE BEER SUCKS!!!!
//loves Big Rock, Sleeman's, and McCaulsen
 
2012-06-08 01:49:27 PM

Bob_Laublaw: Big_Thumb: Blaming the West does play well in central Canada, and given that he is now in a tie with Harper and that metro Toronto has the same population as Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, this could be a gambit that pays off for him.

/Saskatchewan Liberal from Ralph Goodale's riding.

The gambit can also backfire royally when the once-disaffected, business-minded Liberals, particularly central Canadian ones, who supported Layton's NDP return to their original party that's in reconstruction mode.


Hey, I'm not saying it's a slam dunk, I'm saying it could pay off. He says something provocative, some western wingnut talks smack about Ontario/Quebec that ticks off central Canada, Mulcair gets a bump in the polls.

He has a chance of growing support in Ontario and keeping those who voted for him in Quebec. Any growth in Alberta/Sask would be a stretch at this point. He may pickup some of the environmental vote in BC. I think this is the path he's looking at.
 
2012-06-08 01:49:48 PM

504_King_streetcar: Anything that farks my old home province over and benefits Central Canada is A-OK by me.


How do you feel about policies that f*ck over your home province and central Canada concurrently?

With enough belt tightening, I'm certain that provinces on the have-not list would find some way to prosper with reduced or eliminated equalization payments.
 
2012-06-08 01:52:30 PM
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And that's just a couple... truly a circle of hell?

Oh you're either a very good troll or a pathetic douchebag.
 
2012-06-08 01:54:15 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: [www.dioceseofkeewatinlepas.ca image 628x358]
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And that's just a couple... truly a circle of hell?

Oh you're either a very good troll or a pathetic douchebag.


sorry that was for 504_King_streetcar:
 
2012-06-08 01:58:01 PM

Big_Thumb: Bob_Laublaw: Big_Thumb: Blaming the West does play well in central Canada, and given that he is now in a tie with Harper and that metro Toronto has the same population as Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, this could be a gambit that pays off for him.

/Saskatchewan Liberal from Ralph Goodale's riding.

The gambit can also backfire royally when the once-disaffected, business-minded Liberals, particularly central Canadian ones, who supported Layton's NDP return to their original party that's in reconstruction mode.

Hey, I'm not saying it's a slam dunk, I'm saying it could pay off. He says something provocative, some western wingnut talks smack about Ontario/Quebec that ticks off central Canada, Mulcair gets a bump in the polls.

He has a chance of growing support in Ontario and keeping those who voted for him in Quebec. Any growth in Alberta/Sask would be a stretch at this point. He may pickup some of the environmental vote in BC. I think this is the path he's looking at.


Hell Mulcair may actually be capable of destroying the NDP in it's birth province at this rate!
 
2012-06-08 02:02:01 PM

Big_Thumb: Hey, I'm not saying it's a slam dunk, I'm saying it could pay off.


I get what you're saying, and agree that he'll score environmental points beyond central Canada. I also know that local and federal Liberal strategists are laughing until they pee themselves a bit:)

He says something provocative, some western wingnut talks smack about Ontario/Quebec that ticks off central Canada, Mulcair gets a bump in the polls.

The man knows American-style political strategy well.

He has a chance of growing support in Ontario and keeping those who voted for him in Quebec. Any growth in Alberta/Sask would be a stretch at this point. He may pickup some of the environmental vote in BC. I think this is the path he's looking at.

I can hardly wait until he turns his socially and environmentally-principled gaze towards the eastern asbestos industry. His home base will warmly embrace him then. Likely with a gas-soaked and ignited tire, but it will be a warm embrace nonetheless.....
 
2012-06-08 02:18:03 PM
As a BCer I am so sick and tired of the tree hugging, don't hurt the environment shiat. My husband works his can off 3 wk on 4 days off up there. WE pay your EI while you whine. Kids in BC want cushy union jobs, no sacrifice, high pay, and this "free medical".

/bitter
//much
 
2012-06-08 03:06:41 PM

sleeps in trees: As a BCer I am so sick and tired of the tree hugging, don't hurt the environment shiat. My husband works his can off 3 wk on 4 days off up there. WE pay your EI while you whine. Kids in BC want cushy union jobs, no sacrifice, high pay, and this "free medical".

/bitter
//much


Everyone who works pays into EI and the only way you can get it is by having worked. But nice rant.

And you say your husband works.....Maybe you should get a job before lecturing the 'kids in BC.'
 
2012-06-08 04:05:03 PM
And another major oil spill last night..while the conservatives prepare to pass through the budget bill that will essentially take out all of the safeguards and procedures that are in place if an oil spill happens
 
2012-06-08 04:06:22 PM
Conservatives own study concluded that Mulcair was right about the dutch disease

so what is your response to that farkers?
 
2012-06-08 04:09:02 PM

sleeps in trees: As a BCer I am so sick and tired of the tree hugging, don't hurt the environment shiat. My husband works his can off 3 wk on 4 days off up there. WE pay your EI while you whine. Kids in BC want cushy union jobs, no sacrifice, high pay, and this "free medical".

/bitter
//much


I bet the people that live there care.what happens to their environment

I seriously hope oil spills into the river your water comes from and you have to move

then you will understand what these "tree huggers" talk about
 
2012-06-08 04:16:24 PM

ontariolightning: And another major oil spill last night..while the conservatives prepare to pass through the budget bill that will essentially take out all of the safeguards and procedures that are in place if an oil spill happens


So you're saying that after the bill is passed into law the companies will just dump freely without any kind of oversight? You know nothing. This is a provincial responsibility. The spill was caught by a oil company association in the area, and alongside various contractors working on monitoring and clean up are government inspectors and officials.

ontariolightning: Conservatives own study concluded that Mulcair was right about the dutch disease

so what is your response to that farkers?


It may be right in that's one way to get Central Canada going again but it's not acceptable to do so at the expense of a region that is doing well in spite of it. In terms of heavy manufacturing going on in Ontario and Quebec who do you think the customers are? At one time people thought the NEP was a good idea too. It didn't end well. It took Western Canada 20 years to get over that meddling. We don't intend to do that again.
 
2012-06-08 04:24:33 PM

Bob_Laublaw: 504_King_streetcar: Anything that farks my old home province over and benefits Central Canada is A-OK by me.

How do you feel about policies that f*ck over your home province and central Canada concurrently?
/i>

Maybe you should ask The Harper Government who ran a campaign of " don't invest in Ontario " for two years

Nice of them to screw over the rest of Canada and drive their economies down so that Alberta can shine .

So Alberta got it wish of revenge for the imaginary ills and monumental butt hurt of the NEP

** Golf Clap** .. now write those cheques Victory Boy.

 
2012-06-08 04:26:31 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses:
ontariolightning: Conservatives own study concluded that Mulcair was right about the dutch disease

so what is your response to that farkers?

It may be right in that's one way to get Central Canada going again but it's not acceptable to do so at the expense of a region that is doing well in spite of it. In terms of heavy manufacturing going on in Ontario and Quebec who do you think the customers are? At one time people thought the NEP was a good idea too. It didn't end well. It took Western Canada 20 years to get over that meddling. We don't intend to do that again.


there shouldnt be ANY oil spills if they are spending billions on safeguards .. but they arent


22 + million Canadians live in central Canada.. so sacrificing the west would be less harmful on the economy and the environment
 
2012-06-08 04:28:09 PM
The conservatives to rest of Canada.. move west

The rest of Canada: fark you
 
2012-06-08 04:35:43 PM

ontariolightning: Representative of the unwashed masses:
ontariolightning: Conservatives own study concluded that Mulcair was right about the dutch disease

so what is your response to that farkers?

It may be right in that's one way to get Central Canada going again but it's not acceptable to do so at the expense of a region that is doing well in spite of it. In terms of heavy manufacturing going on in Ontario and Quebec who do you think the customers are? At one time people thought the NEP was a good idea too. It didn't end well. It took Western Canada 20 years to get over that meddling. We don't intend to do that again.

there shouldnt be ANY oil spills if they are spending billions on safeguards .. but they arent


22 + million Canadians live in central Canada.. so sacrificing the west would be less harmful on the economy and the environment


Welcome to the real world, sometimes shiat happens, things break. There has never been and there will NEVER be a perfect industrial system. Remember all those problems with acid rain caused by manufacturing before more strict emmissions standards on industry and cars came about? Well we didn't have that problem out here.

Remember all the pollution in the great lakes over the decades? Guess what it didn't come from Alberta or Saskatchewan.

At least out west we can admit we aren't perfect. Something that seems to be missing once you get close to Toronto.
 
2012-06-08 04:37:56 PM

ontariolightning: Conservatives own study concluded that Mulcair was right about the dutch disease

so what is your response to that farkers?


It's black and white to describe Mulcair as proven 'right', but the Fed has not been planning to offset the very real and predictable negative effects of the resource-fuelled economy. The creation and implementation of soveriegn wealth funds paid out over years if not decades would stave off the boom-bust cycle. The west has been through several of these since the 40s and there's no excuse for any of the parties that held power of any stripe to plead ignorance of the downsides. A good portion of the export revenues needs to be sequestered, and I haven't seen any planning for that at all from Red or Blue camps over the last 2 decades.

The nation would benefit from a 'nation over region' solution, but Toronto and Calgary have never collaborated to the betterment of the whole, and the time honoured sport of east vs. west means we'll continue to see one sector thrive at the expense of others throughout our lifetimes (pessimistic, I know). That doesn't negate Quebec's lack of austerity not Ontario's mismanagement of the industrial sector as mitigating causes of the current hardships any more or less than Alberta's lack of industrial diversification leads to the pain felt during the inevitable bust cycle.

ontariolightning: I seriously hope oil spills into the river your water comes from and you have to move


I seriously think that sh*t talk like that kills your credibility and helps maintain the partisan/regional disconnect that simply exasperates the problems.

//beer time
 
2012-06-08 04:46:16 PM
Screw it. I am all for the split if Canada.

The praries can be their own country
Ontario its own
Quebec its own
The Maritimes its own
And the territories its own
 
2012-06-08 04:46:21 PM

Magic_Button: Bob_Laublaw: 504_King_streetcar: Anything that farks my old home province over and benefits Central Canada is A-OK by me.

How do you feel about policies that f*ck over your home province and central Canada concurrently?
/i>

Maybe you should ask The Harper Government who ran a campaign of " don't invest in Ontario " for two years

Nice of them to screw over the rest of Canada and drive their economies down so that Alberta can shine .

So Alberta got it wish of revenge for the imaginary ills and monumental butt hurt of the NEP

** Golf Clap** .. now write those cheques Victory Boy.


The ills were not imaginary, but I suspect I won't be able to illustrate them here without the typical 'butthurt' dismissal.

Continue with regional xenophobia and scat slinging. I don't see the benefits, but hey, whatever works.
 
2012-06-08 04:48:20 PM
Conservative shills are easy to spot

They will whine and call Mulcair divisive when the current PM
has been the most divisive PM in history
 
2012-06-08 04:58:45 PM

ontariolightning: Conservative shills are easy to spot

They will whine and call Mulcair divisive when the current PM
has been the most divisive PM in history


I would actually argue that Trudeau was a more divisive PM than Harper. There was no middle ground with Trudeau, people either really hated him or really loved him. I would argue that his policies truly divided the country between the east and west. difference then was that the east held way more population than the west, while still more populous the west is growing at a fast pace, and the power base is shifting.
 
2012-06-08 05:01:37 PM

ontariolightning: Conservative shills are easy to spot

They will whine and call Mulcair divisive when the current PM
has been the most divisive PM in history


I can't speak for the rest here, but I supported my sitting MP, Linda Duncan, in spite of the fact she's NDP because she's a good neighbour and community leader. I've been compelled to vote for the person not the party since my favoured party, JC's PCs, were killed by the traitor Peter MacKay.

It's unfortunate that the heavy populated centres provided the Cons a majority, but I'd assume most believed they had little choice.
 
2012-06-08 05:04:43 PM

NutznGum: sleeps in trees: As a BCer I am so sick and tired of the tree hugging, don't hurt the environment shiat. My husband works his can off 3 wk on 4 days off up there. WE pay your EI while you whine. Kids in BC want cushy union jobs, no sacrifice, high pay, and this "free medical".

/bitter
//much

Everyone who works pays into EI and the only way you can get it is by having worked. But nice rant.

And you say your husband works.....Maybe you should get a job before lecturing the 'kids in BC.'


Most of them work part of the year just enough to collect. . I work and employ some of the hard working "kids". Again thx for playing.

/ get a job
 
2012-06-08 05:06:16 PM

ontariolightning: sleeps in trees: As a BCer I am so sick and tired of the tree hugging, don't hurt the environment shiat. My husband works his can off 3 wk on 4 days off up there. WE pay your EI while you whine. Kids in BC want cushy union jobs, no sacrifice, high pay, and this "free medical".

/bitter
//much

I bet the people that live there care.what happens to their environment

I seriously hope oil spills into the river your water comes from and you have to move

then you will understand what these "tree huggers" talk about


Actually they love the employment. Might want to have a conversation with them. Balance is everything.
 
2012-06-08 05:16:16 PM

Bob_Laublaw: The ills were not imaginary, but I suspect I won't be able to illustrate them here without the typical 'butthurt' dismissal.

Continue with regional xenophobia and scat slinging. I don't see the benefits, but hey, whatever work


==========
Heard all the Western Whine that there is , all comes down to there was a world wide recession and the Alberta oil boon went bust .

People across Canada lost jobs and companies closed but the whiny westerns blamed the east and pout and lie that only they suffered and blame other people for their ills .

I have had by fill of the Western Whine and shiat and lies they toss at everyone in their tantrums .

Dear Alberta , Grow up or Drop dead
 
2012-06-08 05:48:57 PM

Magic_Button: Bob_Laublaw: The ills were not imaginary, but I suspect I won't be able to illustrate them here without the typical 'butthurt' dismissal.

Continue with regional xenophobia and scat slinging. I don't see the benefits, but hey, whatever work

==========
Heard all the Western Whine that there is , all comes down to there was a world wide recession and the Alberta oil boon went bust .

People across Canada lost jobs and companies closed but the whiny westerns blamed the east and pout and lie that only they suffered and blame other people for their ills .

I have had by fill of the Western Whine and shiat and lies they toss at everyone in their tantrums .

Dear Alberta , Grow up or Drop dead


I've never taken your postings to be quite so black and white before.

Maybe we can agree for now that the national divide won't be closed anytime soon.
 
2012-06-08 06:23:04 PM
Alberta isn't much different than Quebec now. Both hold the rest of the country hostage.
 
2012-06-08 06:26:22 PM

ontariolightning: Alberta isn't much different than Quebec now. Both hold the rest of the country hostage.


It's no mere hostage taking, I assure you. It will soon enough progress to unlawful sexual touching and, ultimately, unspeakable acts of sodomy. And you'll like it.
 
2012-06-08 08:10:21 PM
I have such a provincial politics boner right now.
 
2012-06-08 09:44:23 PM
I wonder what would happen if all the oil and other resources were in Ontario and Quebec?
 
2012-06-08 10:06:14 PM

johnnyo666: I wonder what would happen if all the oil and other resources were in Ontario and Quebec?


Ontario has almost 13 million people and Quebec 8 million

Alberta has nearly 4 million

Pretty sure it would be better for the rest of Canada if the jobs were in the section of the country where the most people live
 
2012-06-08 10:15:14 PM
lol, this alberta oil spill is nowhere on sunnewsnetwork

that's embarrassing seeing as its national news everywhere else
 
2012-06-09 02:29:44 AM
Dutch disease was ignored in Ontario. Mulcair did nothing but appease the West by minimizing environmental issues, and that is how Ontario sees him: powerless and pandering to the prairies.

if this thread is any indication, the prairies are ignoring his environmental olive branch and ignoring that the Dutch disease critique was anti-Harper, not anti-West.
 
2012-06-09 02:36:23 AM

ontariolightning: lol, this alberta oil spill is nowhere on sunnewsnetwork

that's embarrassing seeing as its national news everywhere else


ok, it's important to keep this in perspective. Everyone automatically thinks of a spill compared to the big BP one a couple years ago. This one, while still not good, is much easier to manage. It's about 3,000 barrels. The BP spill was almost 5,000,000 and at sea.

A complete cleanup is going to be challenging for sure. No honest person is going to say anything otherwise. I work for a company that works on spills exactly like this, these people are very professional and very thorough. Also the ERCB (branch fo the Alberta government responsible for the oil patch) is surely going to come down hard on the company that is responsible.

ontariolightning: johnnyo666: I wonder what would happen if all the oil and other resources were in Ontario and Quebec?

Ontario has almost 13 million people and Quebec 8 million

Alberta has nearly 4 million

Pretty sure it would be better for the rest of Canada if the jobs were in the section of the country where the most people live


Wait what? Smart people will go where the work is. Honest, we have room. For a long time, in a lot of fields if you grew up in the west and wanted a job in numerous professions you had to go to Ontario or Quebec. Now the OPPORTUNITY is here.

This isn't the bible belt in the USA where to be accepted you have to be a hardcore baptist republican. We want people here that are willing to work, and work hard. Policies of the federal government don't follow ourt whims here. We are used to succeeding without their help. If you think you have the balls to succeed here you will have every chance.

The Ontario/Quebec entitlment syndrome which you so fully expressed in one sentence won't work anymore.

Saskatchewan and Alberta, more than any other two provinces if pushed hard enough, would make out just fine without Ontario and Quebec.
 
2012-06-09 09:36:19 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses:

Wait what? Smart people will go where the work is. Honest, we have room. For a long time, in a lot of fields if you grew up in the west and wanted a job in numerous professions you had to go to Ontario or Quebec. Now the OPPORTUNITY is here.

The Ontario/Quebec entitlment syndrome which you so fully expressed in one sentence won't work anymore.


You are not taking into account one thing... barely anybody lived in the prairies back then.. you can't
expect more than half the country to move west. That is stupid.

This is like telling people in the Northeast & Midwest to leave to find work in Montana or the Dakotas
(if they had any there)

It is stupid
 
2012-06-09 10:00:43 AM
Clearly, it is stupid, OL.

We need to move the oilsands to Ontario. It's the right thing to do.
 
2012-06-09 12:37:14 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Saskatchewan and Alberta, more than any other two provinces if pushed hard enough, would make out just fine without Ontario and Quebec


Isn't Alberta already having water issues in the south? I vaguely remember reading that development was stalling becuase there wasn't enough water for more people without having the rivers be like the Colorado
 
2012-06-09 01:30:14 PM

Bob_Laublaw: Clearly, it is stupid, OL.

We need to move the oilsands to Ontario. It's the right thing to do.


You are basically telling the rest of Canada to leave their lives in the east and move to a fire/drought plagued province in the spring/summer and a frozen hell hole in the winter

yes it is stupid
 
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