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(LA Times)   TSA will no longer pat down celebrities like Donald Rumsfeld, Henry Kissinger, Alan Rickman, Sean Bean, John Malkovich, Gary Oldman, Terence Stamp, Andrew Robinson, Bruce Dern, Edward Fox, Rutger Hauer   (latimes.com ) divider line
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2012-06-08 12:06:14 PM  

Too Pretty For Prison: Just went through Orlando last week on our way back from Disney. As we approached security, my 4 kids were escorted off to the side and "mom" was asked to come over and keep the kids company. Meanwhile, I got the full back scatter. What kind of logic is that? A bunch of morons putting on a dog and pony show. Sure, I went to Disney to get tortured for a week, sunburned, loaded down with stuffed animals just so I could bring my family on a plane and kill them with a giant bomb stuffed up my ass on the way back.


A.K.A. "Going out on top."
 
2012-06-08 12:07:10 PM  
Celebrity look-alikes, your time has come.
 
2012-06-08 12:14:57 PM  

dababler: What about Weedlord Bonerhitler?


Stand back citizen. That man is a GOD.
 
2012-06-08 12:28:26 PM  
Everyone or no one. You're just asking for a lawsuit with this kind of thing.
 
2012-06-08 12:28:51 PM  
Andrew Robinson, this guy:

1.bp.blogspot.com

They let a Cardassian, one who was opressing the Bajorans during the Occupation, get onto the special list of those who can now avoid the TSA pat downs? I guess even in exile his still gets some special favors due to his time with the Obsidian Order.

At least Gul Dukat wasn't on that list.
 
2012-06-08 12:31:52 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: bikerbob59: So, this is how the caste system in the US will start.

Wrong. This is where the caste system in the United States will end.

Nobody deserves to be treated like shiat by virtue of their station in life. I've been on the recieving end too many times, and I haven't forgotten it now that I am at the top.



The caste system has been in place for ages already.

As long as celebrities, VIPs and "elected representatives" aren't affected by the rules that the rest of us have to live by, why would they have any interest in changing any of them?

Consider this. Your congressman/senator gets:

- Free gas
- Salary plus operational expenses plus travel costs, plus etc etc etc
- Free AAA+ health care
- Pension
- And now preferred treatment via the TSA

In other words, all the things that are killing the average American financially and emotionally are things that your duly elected representatives don't have to worry about.
 
2012-06-08 12:41:16 PM  
Add the following:

Sid Haig, Brad Dourif, Kurtwood Smith, William Sadler, Jeremy Irons, etc
 
2012-06-08 12:42:01 PM  
One suggestion was that the agency stop doing pat-down searches of well-known passengers such as Donald Rumsfeld and Henry Kissinger

Clearly it's easier to get a free pass if you're a mass murderer.
 
2012-06-08 12:47:49 PM  

que.guero: Evil Twin Skippy: bikerbob59: So, this is how the caste system in the US will start.

Wrong. This is where the caste system in the United States will end.

Nobody deserves to be treated like shiat by virtue of their station in life. I've been on the recieving end too many times, and I haven't forgotten it now that I am at the top.


The caste system has been in place for ages already.

As long as celebrities, VIPs and "elected representatives" aren't affected by the rules that the rest of us have to live by, why would they have any interest in changing any of them?

Consider this. Your congressman/senator gets:

- Free gas
- Salary plus operational expenses plus travel costs, plus etc etc etc
- Free AAA+ health care
- Pension
- And now preferred treatment via the TSA

In other words, all the things that are killing the average American financially and emotionally are things that your duly elected representatives don't have to worry about.


This is why I believe congressional elections should be eleminated and replaced with a congressional draft. A citizen is drafted to congress for two terms. While in office, the pay is equal to the median salary of the United States each year. And after they have served their time, they go back to their lives, with no special perks for having served congress, and while serving everything you do is put under a giant microscope, and trying to pass a law that gives former congressional members perks after they've served their time results in 20 years in federal prison minimum. Let's just see how quickly things change knowing that after they're out of power they're going to go back to being a 'regular' person and there is no longer any privilage to being a former member of Congress. Hell, I even say that there are no perks while you serve in congress. Get caught speeding, you get double fined. The first fine is speeding, and second fine speeding while being a member on congress.
 
2012-06-08 12:47:53 PM  

ph0rk: BiggityBanninated: ph0rk: BiggityBanninated: So now you only get molested if you aren't in the ruling class?

If someone started "disappearing" TSA agents I wouldn't shed too many tears.

/Hi Mr. Government agent. I still have first amendment rights and there's nothing you can do about me pointing out that no one likes your fascist agency. Bye now, try to get hit by a bus on the way home!

Shouldn't you be angry at the people writing policy, or are you that shortsighted?

/Obviously you are, since you want people "disappeared".

I am, but the people writing the policy don't represent me. They represent the people who attend $35K fundraisers and have celebrity clout.

I learned from Obama that the government is no longer representative of the American people, except in terms of its hyperbole, histrionics, and stupidity. They work for someone who isn't me.

Mr. TSA guy on the other hand? He's a prole like the rest of us. He has the ability to refuse to work for them.

TSA and anyone who support them are a far bigger threat than any muslim terrorist. Osama has won.

You are absolutely right. After all, there are tons of jobs out there for the unskilled these days! They should follow their hearts and principles rather than earn a paycheck. After all, patting people down in the airports is the worst problem in America today.


Yes, it is one of the worst.

When the only jobs available are prison guard, rapist, prisoner or victim we're in deep trouble.
 
2012-06-08 01:03:19 PM  
Everyone that goes along with any of this is part of the problem. Stop flying.
 
2012-06-08 01:03:26 PM  

brianbankerus: coeyagi: //most underrated movie ever


I'll bite, what's the movie?


shop.tcm.com
 
2012-06-08 01:13:32 PM  

OnlyM3: Color me sarcastically shocked that liberal hypocrites


Color me a coloring book the next time you decide to color.

Do something useful for a change.
 
2012-06-08 01:14:09 PM  
In March, TSA screened 56 million passengers and received 1,294 complaints on such topics as courtesy, wait times during the screening process and damage to luggage. In contrast, TSA screened 55 million passengers in March 2011 and received 1,445 complaints.
At that rate, passenger complaints should decline to zero by October 2020. So I guess the TSA's image really is improving.
 
2012-06-08 01:15:26 PM  
I don't see why the TSA needs to improve customer service. It has no competition and it doesn't have to respond to complaints.
 
2012-06-08 01:18:48 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't see why the TSA needs to improve customer service. It has no competition and it doesn't have to respond to complaints.


Which pretty much sums up every government agency there is.

Although I'm not sure that privately-run airport security companies would do any better.
 
2012-06-08 01:22:43 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't see why the TSA needs to improve customer service.


Because Congress asked them to.

Granted they only asked them to improve it in a way that primarily improves their image to the sort of people who would be, yanno, in Congress, but hey, one small step for Mike Rogers, one giant leap for all us poor slobs who still have to get groped and radio-sterilized daily, amirite?
 
2012-06-08 01:24:38 PM  
Now who is to say that Lindsay Lohan wont blow up a plane in one of her "look at me" stunts. What about Britney for that matter? She was going through a pretty self destructive phase for a bit there.

honestly how necessary is all this? here is a list of of list of airliner bombing attacks that in my opinion show how silly most of what we are doing is.
 
2012-06-08 01:25:04 PM  

enry: Formica Archonis: Despite public frustration with TSA, complaints filed against the agency are rare and in decline, according to U.S. Department of Homeland Security records.

Knowing your complaints go into a black hole doesn't really give you incentive to complain.


Uh, you're quoting the article as if it were me, dude.
 
2012-06-08 01:30:06 PM  
Just so we're clear...
We CAN'T profile based on race, but we can based on class/wealth. Right?
 
2012-06-08 01:33:21 PM  

brianbankerus: coeyagi: //most underrated movie ever


I'll bite, what's the movie?


The Burbs. 80s classic
 
2012-06-08 01:35:19 PM  

Formica Archonis: enry: Original Article: Despite public frustration with TSA, complaints filed against the agency are rare and in decline, according to U.S. Department of Homeland Security records.

Knowing your complaints go into a black hole doesn't really give you incentive to complain.

Uh, you're quoting the article as if it were me, dude.


My bad, I know you didn't say that directly. Just struck me as an odd comment in the article.
 
2012-06-08 01:35:35 PM  

sethen320: Just so we're clear...
We CAN'T profile based on race, but we can based on class/wealth. Right?


No. Positive profile wealth, negative profile race. Wealthy Saudis are a wash.
 
2012-06-08 01:39:20 PM  

enry: Knowing your complaints go into a black hole doesn't really give you incentive to complain.


That same sort of Echo Chamber Logic is in play where I work.

*sticks fingers in ears, shuts eyes tightly*

"Well, I don't hear any complaints."
 
2012-06-08 01:40:38 PM  

Loadmaster: In March, TSA screened 56 million passengers and received 1,294 complaints on such topics as courtesy, wait times during the screening process and damage to luggage. In contrast, TSA screened 55 million passengers in March 2011 and received 1,445 complaints. At that rate, passenger complaints should decline to zero by October 2020. So I guess the TSA's image really is improving.


I'm impressed 1,300 people felt it would help to file a complaint.
 
2012-06-08 01:43:22 PM  

davidab: Now who is to say that Lindsay Lohan wont blow up a plane in one of her "look at me" stunts. What about Britney for that matter? She was going through a pretty self destructive phase for a bit there.

honestly how necessary is all this? here is a list of of list of airliner bombing attacks that in my opinion show how silly most of what we are doing is.


Any anti-terrorism plan is silly when you really think about it. The terrorists do something. The public freaks out, the government steps in, creates a law preventing everyone from doing what the terrorists did. The terrorists laugh and cause terror using another freedom that we enjoy. So the government takes away that freedom in the name of stopping terrorism. The entire practice is reactionary and not proactionary, and has reach a point where everyone is treated like a would be terrorist because if you can be a potential terrorist, then you must be a potential terrorist. Honestly, is there any reason why protection for airline passengers can't be bomb sniffing dogs for all checked baggage, x-ray screening for all carryons and armed sky marshalls? Is there a need to strip a law abiding father and his boy scout son of their swiss army knives when you have four sky marshalls with fire arms? Hell, the shoe bombing event about ten years ago proved something even more useful than the TSA: attentive passengers!
 
2012-06-08 01:53:15 PM  

coeyagi: brianbankerus: coeyagi: //most underrated movie ever


I'll bite, what's the movie?

The Burbs. 80s classic


Dang. Haven't seen that since it was in theaters. Okay, fine. I'll put it on my list.
 
2012-06-08 02:04:06 PM  

brianbankerus: coeyagi: brianbankerus: coeyagi: //most underrated movie ever


I'll bite, what's the movie?

The Burbs. 80s classic

Dang. Haven't seen that since it was in theaters. Okay, fine. I'll put it on my list.


To me, like many cult classics - it starts getting really great about the 8th-10th time you see it. :)

Quotability is key.
 
2012-06-08 02:34:06 PM  
Rutger Hauer should be patted down hourly. He played a truly scary SOB in every movie I have seen him in.
 
2012-06-08 02:44:18 PM  

Aarontology: Either everyone goes through it, or nobody does.


Hear, hear!
 
2012-06-08 02:48:03 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't see why the TSA needs to improve customer service. It has no competition and it doesn't have to respond to complaints.


Do you work for the government? Would explain that position.

In theory, all government agencies are ultimately answerable to the public through our elected representatives.

/can't write any more... not sure if i'm laughing or crying.
 
2012-06-08 03:25:22 PM  
OTOH, this makes a kind of sense. It's doubtful that an extremely recognizable public figure is going to start any shenanigans on a plane.

However, this does reek of classism. Celebrities and politicians already get so many perks, doesn't seem terribly fair that they get to bypass the TSA-mandated groping the rest of us are subjected to.

It's difficult for me to get terribly outraged over it, though.
 
2012-06-08 03:29:33 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: OTOH, this makes a kind of sense.


No, it really doesn't. The TSA's "Image" is not much improved by having it treat 1% of the populace like their not potential terrorists.

Now, granted, I get that this turn of phrase from Congress is a euphemism: saying "Hey TSA, try this to improve your image" when what you're really saying is, "Could you please stop groping us wealthy, important government types? It really makes us sad."

But Sense it still does not make.
 
2012-06-08 07:10:10 PM  
You want money? What kind of terrorists are you?

Who said we were terrorists?
 
2012-06-09 02:02:58 AM  
Well now we can sue the TSA and Federal Government for not applying the law equally. Might be a good way to get rid of the TSA for good.
 
2012-06-09 11:50:22 AM  

Great Janitor: A citizen is drafted to congress for two terms.


I don't want random people who can't master the technical complexity of operating a belt+trousers or turn signals, and think the universe is 6000 years old running government.
 
2012-06-09 12:07:04 PM  

lohphat: Great Janitor: A citizen is drafted to congress for two terms.

I don't want random people who can't master the technical complexity of operating a belt+trousers or turn signals, and think the universe is 6000 years old running government.


If you think voting helped solve this you're gonna have a bad time.
 
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