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2012-06-07 11:08:07 PM  
OTOH, http://bit.ly/MOJqzd

"But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."
 
2012-06-07 11:40:59 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: OTOH, http://bit.ly/MOJqzd

"But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."


Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.
 
2012-06-08 06:14:04 AM  

DeltaPunch: Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.


They would just add additional charges against her for the damages at some inflated rate.

Cops seem WAY too quick (eager) to shoot their tasers at people.
 
2012-06-08 06:14:48 AM  
How dare she display civil disobedience! That's definitely a tazerin'.
 
2012-06-08 06:24:56 AM  
If you take their guns away, maybe the cops will use their TASERs a bit more sparingly.
 
2012-06-08 06:30:52 AM  
A police officer tasered a pregnant black woman?

*rushes off to buy industrial sized popcorn bowl*
 
2012-06-08 06:38:55 AM  
Rent was due.
 
2012-06-08 06:41:18 AM  
I've been a Chicagoon most of my life. The cops are unrestrained, officious pricks. However, if you are reasonably respectful and cooperative, they will typically go truncheon someone else.

//large
//white dude
 
2012-06-08 06:52:45 AM  
That's the Chicago way.
 
2012-06-08 06:53:48 AM  
Why doesn't this place have an expectant mother parking spot? All the Walgreens and CVS stores around here have both expectant mother and handicapped spots.

Being fat doesn't help her case though, I wouldn't be able to tell if she was pregnant or just a fat lazy biatch using the handicapped spot.
 
2012-06-08 06:58:15 AM  
www.global-air.com

When 72 year-old great-grandmother Kathryn Winkfein refused to sign her speeding ticket, the deputy sheriff, fearing for his life, zapped her with several thousand volts. (new window)
 
2012-06-08 06:59:39 AM  
Anyone else remember when Tasers first came out and they told us they'd only use them when deadly force was the only option? Now, they are used primarily as cattle-prods and to make officers feel better...
 
2012-06-08 06:59:54 AM  
Articles about the police using force should come with the reason for the use of force. The original cause for police involvement is optional. If the cops tazed you, I mainly want to know why they tazed you, not why they were there in the first place. It doesn't matter if they were shutting down your bank robbery or your lemonade stand. What matters is whether they tazed you for pulling a knife or being a smart-ass.

TFA notes her parking infraction, her attitude, and the status of her uterus, but leaves out what matters most.
 
2012-06-08 07:10:14 AM  

catonacid: How dare she display civil disobedience! That's definitely a tazerin'.


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2012-06-08 07:14:34 AM  
I'm simply shocked, shocked, to see that the woman was BLACK.
 
2012-06-08 07:14:50 AM  

igotitb4you: Why doesn't this place have an expectant mother parking spot? All the Walgreens and CVS stores around here have both expectant mother and handicapped spots.

Being fat doesn't help her case though, I wouldn't be able to tell if she was pregnant or just a fat lazy biatch using the handicapped spot.


She's not fat, she's 8 months pregnant. She didn't even get out of the car, she should have parked in a normal space. Her attitude deserved a taserin', not her pregnant body.
 
2012-06-08 07:15:17 AM  

masercot: Anyone else remember when Tasers first came out and they told us they'd only use them when deadly force was the only option? Now, they are used primarily as cattle-prods and to make officers feel better...


images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-06-08 07:20:03 AM  
If she already had the ticket what other business did they have? If she tears it up or pays it what does it matter?
 
2012-06-08 07:20:52 AM  
While I often think that able bodied people who abuse the crip spot and pregnant women (without legitimate complications) who need the exercise but act all lazy and disabled should be tasered, I don't mean it literally.
 
2012-06-08 07:23:57 AM  
The kid will be named Zap.
 
2012-06-08 07:24:38 AM  

Mac Beer: If she already had the ticket what other business did they have? If she tears it up or pays it what does it matter?


They were to give her one for littering as well.

But seeing as they had her license plate, I don't see why they couldn't just mail it. Why try to escalate a situation.
 
2012-06-08 07:25:12 AM  

masercot: Anyone else remember when Tasers first came out and they told us they'd only use them when deadly force was the only option? Now, they are used primarily as cattle-prods and to make officers feel better...


[citation needed]

TASERs have always been "less lethal" force, not a replacement for deadly force.
 
2012-06-08 07:32:14 AM  
Anyone think it would be the height of hilarity if a cop with an attitude got gang-tasered by a bunch of respectable-looking citizens? Sorta dancing around the maypole with the wiring while the guy does the funky chicken? After all, it doesn't cause any damage, it's safe for the testicles and face, and is appropriate any time you feel the least bit of frustration. At least, that's the impression I get from the cops.

/BLA BLA Respect my authoritah BLA
//RLCs: Here's something you don't see every day!
///BLA BLA huh? AAAAAAAaaaAAAAaaAAAAaaAAA
 
2012-06-08 07:33:41 AM  
She was setting a wonderful example for her car-load of kids. She got off easy. Dumb B.

/Northsider
//dislikes CPD
 
2012-06-08 07:34:28 AM  

JohnnyC: DeltaPunch: Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.

They would just add additional charges against her for the damages at some inflated rate.

Cops seem WAY too quick (eager) to shoot their tasers at people.


It's not that cops are way to eager/quick to use them, it's just that you only hear about the uses that are controversial.

TASER International estimates that TASERs have been used over 1.5 million times in "street" applications. You've probably only heard of 50-100 of those uses.
 
2012-06-08 07:37:55 AM  
"But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."

"Rent pulled into a handicapped parking spot while Hobbs went into the store."

I'm reading a story about a mouthy idiot who thinks they're special. Her BOYFRIEND went into the store. So handicapped parking is hardly necessary no matter how knocked up you are. I'm not sure how mouthing off to cops helps either or why you would expect anything less in this situation.

I'm no particular fan of cops in most cases... but I wouldn't expect much less than a baton to the head or a night in jail if I handled myself like this.
 
2012-06-08 07:39:00 AM  
I get this terrible feeling deep down inside.... TERRRR-ible feeling..... that the perp would have parked in that spot regardless of imminent crotchspring.
 
2012-06-08 07:47:16 AM  

Mac Beer: If she already had the ticket what other business did they have? If she tears it up or pays it what does it matter?


Being a dumbass... idiot.. moron... pile of shiat.

Went for building supplies yesterday and saw a typical BIlly The Kid moron cop... about 4 kids; look to be in the 10/11 year old area.. 3 boys and a girl. There's the cop, talking to the kids with his hand up on his gun, ready to shoot some little kids who are armed with deadly chewing gum and soaking wet (like they'd just left a pool).

/cop is naturally parked right in the middle of the street... would have been too easy to pull off to one side of the street, like someone with the intelligence to wipe their own ass.
 
2012-06-08 07:59:54 AM  
"He gave me the ticket and I threw the ticket on the ground," Rent said in a telephone conversation with NBC Chicago.

Goddammitsomuch. I'm not saying the tasering is justified, but wtf is wrong with people when they do something they know is wrong and then acting all indignant when they get called on it?
 
2012-06-08 08:01:10 AM  
Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?
 
2012-06-08 08:02:15 AM  

gummyworm: Rent was due.


But the Rent was too damn high.
 
2012-06-08 08:14:46 AM  
If the kid is born with a lightning bolt scar on his forehead, watch out.
 
2012-06-08 08:28:01 AM  
So, did she take the ticket after being tazed?
 
2012-06-08 08:28:49 AM  
This would surprise me, but I figured out that Cop are unrestrained, racist bullies a long time ago.

You Cop-lovers (you know who you are) are the worst...
 
2012-06-08 08:28:53 AM  
According to the article, she was in a Walgreens parking lot. That's not a public street, it's private property. Since she wasn't breaking any other laws, wouldn't it be up to Walgreens management to decide whether the police get all tasery on a pregnant woman in their parking lot? After all, aren't they the ones who decide where to put the handicap spaces in the first place?

/IANAL, it just seems like it would be that way.
 
2012-06-08 08:31:50 AM  
My first question is whether the taser could hurt the fetus. Some googling found this (and only this, there's not a lot of info on the subject):
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_an_electrical_shock_hurt_the_fetus_of_a _ pregnant_woman

Unless I'm missing something, there have been pretty much ZERO studies on the effects of tasering on a pregnant woman. However, it is known that electric shock (even small voltages) can result in anything from retardation to death of the fetus, particularly if the current passes through the belly (if the taser hit the belly, chest, or back).

Seems to me that police everywhere are just begging to get a gazillion dollar lawsuit.
 
2012-06-08 08:36:10 AM  

3dougnight: If the kid is born with a lightning bolt scar on his forehead, watch out.


Marvel and DC have shown interest in developing the character.
 
2012-06-08 08:36:37 AM  

Tarmangani: According to the article, she was in a Walgreens parking lot. That's not a public street, it's private property. Since she wasn't breaking any other laws, wouldn't it be up to Walgreens management to decide whether the police get all tasery on a pregnant woman in their parking lot? After all, aren't they the ones who decide where to put the handicap spaces in the first place?

/IANAL, it just seems like it would be that way.


They have the handicap spots because they are required to by law. Drivers are required by law to obey the sign and only park there if they are explicitly allowed to do so. So it is not the property owner's decision to charge a violator, just like it is not the property owner's decision whether to charge a person who committed murder on their property.
 
2012-06-08 08:36:48 AM  

Wodan11: My first question is whether the taser could hurt the fetus. Some googling found this (and only this, there's not a lot of info on the subject):
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_an_electrical_shock_hurt_the_fetus_of_a _ pregnant_woman

Unless I'm missing something, there have been pretty much ZERO studies on the effects of tasering on a pregnant woman. However, it is known that electric shock (even small voltages) can result in anything from retardation to death of the fetus, particularly if the current passes through the belly (if the taser hit the belly, chest, or back).

Seems to me that police everywhere are just begging to get a gazillion dollar lawsuit.


So they should practice tasering their own preggers?
 
2012-06-08 08:37:33 AM  

Tarmangani: According to the article, she was in a Walgreens parking lot. That's not a public street, it's private property. Since she wasn't breaking any other laws, wouldn't it be up to Walgreens management to decide whether the police get all tasery on a pregnant woman in their parking lot? After all, aren't they the ones who decide where to put the handicap spaces in the first place?

/IANAL, it just seems like it would be that way.


There are a couple of parking laws that the police can enforce on private property. Fire lanes and handicapped parking are two that come to mind.
 
2012-06-08 08:40:39 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: So they should practice tasering their own preggers?


How about don't pretend tasers aren't lethal weapons. They can kill adults, let alone a fetus, for crying out loud.
 
2012-06-08 08:44:57 AM  

Wodan11: StoPPeRmobile: So they should practice tasering their own preggers?

How about don't pretend tasers aren't lethal weapons. They can kill adults, let alone a fetus, for crying out loud.


That's crazy talk.
 
2012-06-08 08:47:17 AM  
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2012-06-08 08:48:17 AM  
Dats raycest!
 
2012-06-08 08:52:24 AM  
RELIGION OF PEACE
 
2012-06-08 08:54:15 AM  
I remember the days when you would get beaten to death for talking back to a cop. You kids today have it easy.
 
2012-06-08 09:03:37 AM  

thefuzz1096: JohnnyC: DeltaPunch: Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.

They would just add additional charges against her for the damages at some inflated rate.

Cops seem WAY too quick (eager) to shoot their tasers at people.

It's not that cops are way to eager/quick to use them, it's just that you only hear about the uses that are controversial.

TASER International estimates that TASERs have been used over 1.5 million times in "street" applications.
You've probably only heard of 50-100 of those uses.


I don't think you are arguing what you think you are arguing.
 
2012-06-08 09:06:13 AM  

theknuckler_33: "He gave me the ticket and I threw the ticket on the ground," Rent said in a telephone conversation with NBC Chicago.

Goddammitsomuch. I'm not saying the tasering is justified, but wtf is wrong with people when they do something they know is wrong and then acting all indignant when they get called on it?


SOMEONE didn't look at the pics in the article :)
 
2012-06-08 09:38:31 AM  
The issue isn't the voltage, it's sending a pregnant woman into convulsions and dropping her to the ground, (or on this case all around the interior of a car.) Taking a blow to the womb is no laughing matter, and good for a worried night in the ER.

It wasn't the brightest move, and if I were to do that on a random woman I'd be up for reckless endangerment of a minor.
 
2012-06-08 09:51:07 AM  

Jirafa: Tarmangani: According to the article, she was in a Walgreens parking lot. That's not a public street, it's private property. Since she wasn't breaking any other laws, wouldn't it be up to Walgreens management to decide whether the police get all tasery on a pregnant woman in their parking lot? After all, aren't they the ones who decide where to put the handicap spaces in the first place?

/IANAL, it just seems like it would be that way.

They have the handicap spots because they are required to by law. Drivers are required by law to obey the sign and only park there if they are explicitly allowed to do so. So it is not the property owner's decision to charge a violator, just like it is not the property owner's decision whether to charge a person who committed murder on their property.


I was wondering about that myself, so I checked Illinois state law on disabled parking. No wonder Preggo was in such a huff: she'd just been nailed with at least a $250 fine. Ouch.
 
2012-06-08 10:23:11 AM  

stlbluez: "But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."

"Rent pulled into a handicapped parking spot while Hobbs went into the store."

I'm reading a story about a mouthy idiot who thinks they're special. Her BOYFRIEND went into the store. So handicapped parking is hardly necessary no matter how knocked up you are. I'm not sure how mouthing off to cops helps either or why you would expect anything less in this situation.

I'm no particular fan of cops in most cases... but I wouldn't expect much less than a baton to the head or a night in jail if I handled myself like this.


Sure, if you disrespect a cop you can expect to get hurt but that's a messed up idea. You shouldn't be attacked just because you don't show proper deference.
 
2012-06-08 10:35:32 AM  

namegoeshere: thefuzz1096: JohnnyC: DeltaPunch: Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.

They would just add additional charges against her for the damages at some inflated rate.

Cops seem WAY too quick (eager) to shoot their tasers at people.

It's not that cops are way to eager/quick to use them, it's just that you only hear about the uses that are controversial.

TASER International estimates that TASERs have been used over 1.5 million times in "street" applications. You've probably only heard of 50-100 of those uses.

I don't think you are arguing what you think you are arguing.


The TASER has been around for 18 years. They've sold over a half million of them to agencies in over 107 countries.

The last stats I have are from 2005, but it's estimated that 19% of the United States population (43.5 million people) had a face to face encounter with the police that year. Force (any type of force, not specific to the TASER) was used in only 1.6% of those contacts. This is for the US only, and this is only one years statistics.

1.5 million TASER uses WORLDWIDE in 18 years, versus 43.5 million people having contact in the UNITED STATES in only ONE YEAR.

I know what I'm arguing.

/sorry for the caps
 
2012-06-08 10:38:44 AM  

thefuzz1096: namegoeshere: thefuzz1096: JohnnyC: DeltaPunch: Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.

They would just add additional charges against her for the damages at some inflated rate.

Cops seem WAY too quick (eager) to shoot their tasers at people.

It's not that cops are way to eager/quick to use them, it's just that you only hear about the uses that are controversial.

TASER International estimates that TASERs have been used over 1.5 million times in "street" applications. You've probably only heard of 50-100 of those uses.

I don't think you are arguing what you think you are arguing.

The TASER has been around for 18 years. They've sold over a half million of them to agencies in over 107 countries.

The last stats I have are from 2005, but it's estimated that 19% of the United States population (43.5 million people) had a face to face encounter with the police that year. Force (any type of force, not specific to the TASER) was used in only 1.6% of those contacts. This is for the US only, and this is only one years statistics.

1.5 million TASER uses WORLDWIDE in 18 years, versus 43.5 million people having contact in the UNITED STATES in only ONE YEAR.

I know what I'm arguing.

/sorry for the caps


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2012-06-08 10:41:08 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: thefuzz1096: namegoeshere: thefuzz1096: JohnnyC: DeltaPunch: Well that's super safe. She was clearly being difficult, but if her car was in gear and she ended up crashing into something or someone while being tasered, methinks that cop would be in a whole lot of trouble.

They would just add additional charges against her for the damages at some inflated rate.

Cops seem WAY too quick (eager) to shoot their tasers at people.

It's not that cops are way to eager/quick to use them, it's just that you only hear about the uses that are controversial.

TASER International estimates that TASERs have been used over 1.5 million times in "street" applications. You've probably only heard of 50-100 of those uses.

I don't think you are arguing what you think you are arguing.

The TASER has been around for 18 years. They've sold over a half million of them to agencies in over 107 countries.

The last stats I have are from 2005, but it's estimated that 19% of the United States population (43.5 million people) had a face to face encounter with the police that year. Force (any type of force, not specific to the TASER) was used in only 1.6% of those contacts. This is for the US only, and this is only one years statistics.

1.5 million TASER uses WORLDWIDE in 18 years, versus 43.5 million people having contact in the UNITED STATES in only ONE YEAR.

I know what I'm arguing.

/sorry for the caps

Fark is not your personal erotica site.


Sorry, just a Use of Force instructor / TASER instructor that gets passionate about his area of expertise.

/I still don't think the officer in this article was justfied.
 
2012-06-08 10:48:02 AM  
She sounds uppity
 
2012-06-08 10:58:01 AM  
That's a shame that the police-supplied attempt at abortion didn't pan out, he should get a medal for at least trying to clean up society's signal-to-noise ratio.

Hint: be respectful to others if you want them to treat you with respect, especially if those others are officers of the law who have indicated their intent to use a stun gun on you if you don't comply with their instructions
 
2012-06-08 11:13:41 AM  
DON'T TASE ME BRO!
 
2012-06-08 11:49:37 AM  
I don't care what the fark she did, you don't use a taser on a pregnant woman. It's just not right, anybody with a conscience farking knows that. Dirty pigs, your authority is NOT more important than other people's lives.

Now, if this kid ever has ANYTHING that might remotely be considered a birth defect- Autism, epilepsy, palpitations, ANYTHING, she's going to sue the department. I hope she wins.
 
2012-06-08 11:57:49 AM  

Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?


625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

The original ticket was justified.
 
2012-06-08 11:59:29 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: OTOH, http://bit.ly/MOJqzd

"But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."


I'd be interested to know how he deployed the tazer on someone who was shifting the SUV into gear. The door and window were most likely closed. Color me shocked that I have questions about the veracity of a CPD police report.
 
2012-06-08 12:00:57 PM  

redmid17: BarkingUnicorn: OTOH, http://bit.ly/MOJqzd

"But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."

I'd be interested to know how he deployed the tazer on someone who was shifting the SUV into gear. The door and window were most likely closed. Color me shocked that I have questions about the veracity of a CPD police report.


And I spoke to soon. It looks like she was rolling the window up. So the cop decided to tazer a possibly pregnant lady to prevent her from driving off despite having all her contact info and home address, in addition to the BF still being in the store.

I don't care if it played out exactly like the report says, this guy needs to be suspended without pay for awhile.
 
2012-06-08 12:15:38 PM  

mhuckins: Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

The original ticket was justified.


So why didn't he just let it go? A warrant would have been issued if she didn't pay. More money for the coffers.
 
2012-06-08 12:29:08 PM  

igotitb4you: Why doesn't this place have an expectant mother parking spot? All the Walgreens and CVS stores around here have both expectant mother and handicapped spots.

Being fat doesn't help her case though, I wouldn't be able to tell if she was pregnant or just a fat lazy biatch using the handicapped spot.


That might be a nice thing for a business to choose to have available for their customers, but in this case it doesn't really make much sense for her to use prego parking when she is dropping off her non-pregnant boyfriend while she sits in the car.
 
2012-06-08 12:35:14 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: mhuckins: Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

The original ticket was justified.

So why didn't he just let it go? A warrant would have been issued if she didn't pay. More money for the coffers.


She was resisting arrest. If you throw something (even as benign as paper) at a cop it's considered battery. Seems like he decided to take the high road and just write a ticket for littering. He instructed her to stay put, and instead she gets back into her car and yells expletives at him.

A moving vehicle is a weapon. An unsearched vehicle might have weapons (err on the side of caution). Either way she didn't cooperate with the cop, thus the resisting arrest charge. He charged her with battery in the end because she couldn't listen to his request to stay outside the vehicle while he wrote another ticket. He was in his bounds to ask that of her.

She was given warning of the tazing. She had the opportunity to stop what she was doing and say "I'm pregnant". She again didn't listen to the cop.

Lots of fat women either look pregnant or like they just gave birth. The cop made no assumptions and shouldn't be penalized for that.

Fark, I've gained 30 lbs in the last 4 months since getting an IUD. I wouldn't get uppity about someone assuming I was preggers just because I am bloated. I'd make a joke about the IUD and get on with my life. But oh man if you make the assumption to a fattie that doesn't have a good amount of self-esteem.
 
2012-06-08 12:37:15 PM  

odinsposse: stlbluez: "But police say the officer warned Tiffany Rent he would use the stun gun if she drove away after tearing up a parking ticket, throwing it at his face and yelling, 'You ain't arresting (expletive).' The officer fired the stun gun as she put her SUV into gear, according to a police report."

"Rent pulled into a handicapped parking spot while Hobbs went into the store."

I'm reading a story about a mouthy idiot who thinks they're special. Her BOYFRIEND went into the store. So handicapped parking is hardly necessary no matter how knocked up you are. I'm not sure how mouthing off to cops helps either or why you would expect anything less in this situation.

I'm no particular fan of cops in most cases... but I wouldn't expect much less than a baton to the head or a night in jail if I handled myself like this.

Sure, if you disrespect a cop you can expect to get hurt but that's a messed up idea. You shouldn't be attacked just because you don't show proper deference.


She was indignant (I concede that this not a crime), ripped up a ticket and threw it in the officer's face (littering and assault/battery), then put her vehicle into gear after direct orders not to do so, then had her boyfriend make a pass at the officer (although he not taking no swings at no officer). I think that went past the "proper deference" you were speaking about. I would tend to get upset if shiat got thrown in my face and had another party trying to attack while I was performing my duties. You must have the patience of Gandhi, and I commend you for that.
 
2012-06-08 12:38:12 PM  

Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?


Looks like "Yes":
Rent said she got out of the car to re-seat her 3-year-old when a Chicago police officer began writing her a ticket.

I think the test would be: Would a handicapped person driving by find the spot usable or would they see it as in use and have to proceed to a location that is further away?

I've seen a car pulling into the lot at my building at work park in front of two handicapped spots rather than pull into either. Interesting ticket avoidance method there....
 
2012-06-08 12:38:42 PM  

mhuckins: StoPPeRmobile: mhuckins: Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

The original ticket was justified.

So why didn't he just let it go? A warrant would have been issued if she didn't pay. More money for the coffers.

She was resisting arrest. If you throw something (even as benign as paper) at a cop it's considered battery. Seems like he decided to take the high road and just write a ticket for littering. He instructed her to stay put, and instead she gets back into her car and yells expletives at him.

A moving vehicle is a weapon. An unsearched vehicle might have weapons (err on the side of caution). Either way she didn't cooperate with the cop, thus the resisting arrest charge. He charged her with battery in the end because she couldn't listen to his request to stay outside the vehicle while he wrote another ticket. He was in his bounds to ask that of her.

She was given warning of the tazing. She had the opportunity to stop what she was doing and say "I'm pregnant". She again didn't listen to the cop.

Lots of fat women either look pregnant or like they just gave birth. The cop made no assumptions and shouldn't be penalized for that.

Fark, I've gained 30 lbs in the last 4 months since getting an IUD. I wouldn't get uppity about someone assuming I was preggers just because I am bloated. I'd make a joke about the IUD and get on with my life. But oh man if you make the assumption to a fattie that doesn't have a good amount of self-esteem.


The cop went overboard on what she had to do. He had the discretion and option to not escalate the situation. He did.
 
2012-06-08 12:45:27 PM  

redmid17: mhuckins: StoPPeRmobile: mhuckins: Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

The original ticket was justified.

So why didn't he just let it go? A warrant would have been issued if she didn't pay. More money for the coffers.

She was resisting arrest. If you throw something (even as benign as paper) at a cop it's considered battery. Seems like he decided to take the high road and just write a ticket for littering. He instructed her to stay put, and instead she gets back into her car and yells expletives at him.

A moving vehicle is a weapon. An unsearched vehicle might have weapons (err on the side of caution). Either way she didn't cooperate with the cop, thus the resisting arrest charge. He charged her with battery in the end because she couldn't listen to his request to stay outside the vehicle while he wrote another ticket. He was in his bounds to ask that of her.

She was given warning of the tazing. She had the opportunity to stop what she was doing and say "I'm pregnant". She again didn't listen to the cop.

Lots of fat women either look pregnant or like they just gave birth. The cop made no assumptions and shouldn't be penalized for that.

Fark, I've gained 30 lbs in the last 4 months since getting an IUD. I wouldn't get uppity about someone assuming I was preggers just because I am bloated. I'd make a joke about the IUD and get on with my life. But oh man if you make the assumption to a fattie that doesn't have a good amount of self-esteem.

The cop went overboard on what she had to do. He had the discretion and option to not escalate the situation. He did.


It seems that she escalated the situation by putting her vehicle into gear. The officer would have no choice but to take pursuit of the vehicle. Now the officer must worry about, not only the occupants of that vehicle, but other vehicles and pedestrians on the road. It seems that it's a no win situation, but the cop made the proper call by containing the incident to the parking lot. But since this is Fark, no cop can ever do right. Just imagine how the headline/thread would read if the pursuit resulted in a crash and all occupants of the vehicle died, along with several pedestrians and a few fellow motorists.

/All replies should include welcometofark.jpg
 
2012-06-08 12:52:34 PM  

redmid17: mhuckins: StoPPeRmobile: mhuckins: Feed_The_Walrus: Whereas I don't agree with pulling into a handicap space was she technically 'parked'?

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

The original ticket was justified.

So why didn't he just let it go? A warrant would have been issued if she didn't pay. More money for the coffers.

She was resisting arrest. If you throw something (even as benign as paper) at a cop it's considered battery. Seems like he decided to take the high road and just write a ticket for littering. He instructed her to stay put, and instead she gets back into her car and yells expletives at him.

A moving vehicle is a weapon. An unsearched vehicle might have weapons (err on the side of caution). Either way she didn't cooperate with the cop, thus the resisting arrest charge. He charged her with battery in the end because she couldn't listen to his request to stay outside the vehicle while he wrote another ticket. He was in his bounds to ask that of her.

She was given warning of the tazing. She had the opportunity to stop what she was doing and say "I'm pregnant". She again didn't listen to the cop.

Lots of fat women either look pregnant or like they just gave birth. The cop made no assumptions and shouldn't be penalized for that.

Fark, I've gained 30 lbs in the last 4 months since getting an IUD. I wouldn't get uppity about someone assuming I was preggers just because I am bloated. I'd make a joke about the IUD and get on with my life. But oh man if you make the assumption to a fattie that doesn't have a good amount of self-esteem.

The cop went overboard on what she had to do. He had the discretion and option to not escalate the situation. He did.


How could he have? By allowing her to ram his car then perhaps hit him? We can't rule that out because he didn't let it happen. What about the two children in the car? Wouldn't ramming his vehicle cause harm to them? I believe that is child endangerment. I doubt she took the time to buckle up either. If she was preggers and/or fat she could of harmed her unborn child and herself by ramming the cop car.

I could make assumptions up all day long. He kept it from escalating for his safety and the passengers safety.

And either way you tell the story, resisting arrest normally ends with being restrained in some manner. Sometimes that includes being tazed.
 
2012-06-08 12:55:45 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: It seems that she escalated the situation by putting her vehicle into gear. The officer would have no choice but to take pursuit of the vehicle. Now the officer must worry about, not only the occupants of that vehicle, but other vehicles and pedestrians on the road. It seems that it's a no win situation, but the cop made the proper call by containing the incident to the parking lot. But since this is Fark, no cop can ever do right. Just imagine how the headline/thread would read if the pursuit resulted in a crash and all occupants of the vehicle died, along with several pedestrians and a few fellow motorists.

/All replies should include welcometofark.jpg


Well no. He clearly had all of her contact information and no one would have been in any immediate danger had he not followed. High speed chases are a bad idea if no one is in immediate danger. Her bf was in the store as well, so she'd have been leaving him behind as well. This is a pretty obvious case of "think before you act" and it's one the officer failed miserably.
 
2012-06-08 01:00:17 PM  

mhuckins: How could he have? By allowing her to ram his car then perhaps hit him? We can't rule that out because he didn't let it happen. What about the two children in the car? Wouldn't ramming his vehicle cause harm to them? I believe that is child endangerment. I doubt she took the time to buckle up either. If she was preggers and/or fat she could of harmed her unborn child and herself by ramming the cop car.

I could make assumptions up all day long. He kept it from escalating for his safety and the passengers safety.

And either way you tell the story, resisting arrest normally ends with being restrained in some manner. Sometimes that includes being tazed.


You're assuming that the police car was blocking in her SUV. The report and article indicate nothing of the sort. The only thing letting her drive off would have caused him was more work, so he got lazy and used a tazer unnecessarily.
 
2012-06-08 01:05:22 PM  

redmid17: HatMadeOfAss: It seems that she escalated the situation by putting her vehicle into gear. The officer would have no choice but to take pursuit of the vehicle. Now the officer must worry about, not only the occupants of that vehicle, but other vehicles and pedestrians on the road. It seems that it's a no win situation, but the cop made the proper call by containing the incident to the parking lot. But since this is Fark, no cop can ever do right. Just imagine how the headline/thread would read if the pursuit resulted in a crash and all occupants of the vehicle died, along with several pedestrians and a few fellow motorists.

/All replies should include welcometofark.jpg

Well no. He clearly had all of her contact information and no one would have been in any immediate danger had he not followed. High speed chases are a bad idea if no one is in immediate danger. Her bf was in the store as well, so she'd have been leaving him behind as well. This is a pretty obvious case of "think before you act" and it's one the officer failed miserably.


We will not see eye to eye on this matter. Clearly you are more correct than me, so pat yourself on the back, have a cookie, and give yourself an extra special handie tonight - knowing full well that your lack of respect for police officers has won you an argument on the internet.

img1.fark.net
 
2012-06-08 01:10:12 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: redmid17: HatMadeOfAss: It seems that she escalated the situation by putting her vehicle into gear. The officer would have no choice but to take pursuit of the vehicle. Now the officer must worry about, not only the occupants of that vehicle, but other vehicles and pedestrians on the road. It seems that it's a no win situation, but the cop made the proper call by containing the incident to the parking lot. But since this is Fark, no cop can ever do right. Just imagine how the headline/thread would read if the pursuit resulted in a crash and all occupants of the vehicle died, along with several pedestrians and a few fellow motorists.

/All replies should include welcometofark.jpg

Well no. He clearly had all of her contact information and no one would have been in any immediate danger had he not followed. High speed chases are a bad idea if no one is in immediate danger. Her bf was in the store as well, so she'd have been leaving him behind as well. This is a pretty obvious case of "think before you act" and it's one the officer failed miserably.

We will not see eye to eye on this matter. Clearly you are more correct than me, so pat yourself on the back, have a cookie, and give yourself an extra special handie tonight - knowing full well that your lack of respect for police officers has won you an argument on the internet.

[img1.fark.net image 54x11]


There's a difference between a lack of respect for police officers and seeing one react like a moron. You don't punch a child when you see them pulling the wings off an insect. The woman was clearly in the wrong and should have the book thrown at her for a litany of charges. Instead of that story, the department has to deal with a PR nightmare over a seemingly trivial* offense because the officer didn't have the foresight or the experience to realize that the situation would only get worse if he intervened in her departure. That's not an indictment of the officer as much as it is the police department, their use of force policy, and their training methods.
 
2012-06-08 01:17:11 PM  

redmid17: The report and article indicate nothing of the sort. The only thing letting her drive off would have caused him was more work, so he got lazy and used a tazer unnecessarily.


I didn't realize TFA was different then the reports I read last night.

Her is a link to some of the stories I read last night:

CBS Chicago: "She pulled up in a handicapped space. The police came behind her, and she said they blocked her in."

The victim states that the cop car was behind her.
 
2012-06-08 01:20:01 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: redmid17: HatMadeOfAss: It seems that she escalated the situation by putting her vehicle into gear. The officer would have no choice but to take pursuit of the vehicle. Now the officer must worry about, not only the occupants of that vehicle, but other vehicles and pedestrians on the road. It seems that it's a no win situation, but the cop made the proper call by containing the incident to the parking lot. But since this is Fark, no cop can ever do right. Just imagine how the headline/thread would read if the pursuit resulted in a crash and all occupants of the vehicle died, along with several pedestrians and a few fellow motorists.

/All replies should include welcometofark.jpg

Well no. He clearly had all of her contact information and no one would have been in any immediate danger had he not followed. High speed chases are a bad idea if no one is in immediate danger. Her bf was in the store as well, so she'd have been leaving him behind as well. This is a pretty obvious case of "think before you act" and it's one the officer failed miserably.

We will not see eye to eye on this matter. Clearly you are more correct than me, so pat yourself on the back, have a cookie, and give yourself an extra special handie tonight - knowing full well that your lack of respect for police officers has won you an argument on the internet.

[img1.fark.net image 54x11]


Thank you for reminding me that I have cookies in the kitchen! I am going to help myself to some.
 
2012-06-08 01:37:21 PM  

mhuckins: redmid17: The report and article indicate nothing of the sort. The only thing letting her drive off would have caused him was more work, so he got lazy and used a tazer unnecessarily.

I didn't realize TFA was different then the reports I read last night.

Her is a link to some of the stories I read last night:

CBS Chicago: "She pulled up in a handicapped space. The police came behind her, and she said they blocked her in."

The victim states that the cop car was behind her.


That makes a world of difference.
 
2012-06-08 01:45:26 PM  

redmid17: mhuckins: redmid17: The report and article indicate nothing of the sort. The only thing letting her drive off would have caused him was more work, so he got lazy and used a tazer unnecessarily.

I didn't realize TFA was different then the reports I read last night.

Her is a link to some of the stories I read last night:

CBS Chicago: "She pulled up in a handicapped space. The police came behind her, and she said they blocked her in."

The victim states that the cop car was behind her.

That makes a world of difference.


/s or no /s?

/makes a world of difference
//kinda might of highlighted you red
 
2012-06-08 02:09:03 PM  
It is the job of the police to deal with people. Quite often people that make trouble too often or people in compromised emotional states.

Here is the twist, why are too many American cops so aggressive and take-charge they actually escalate the situation. I am not suggesting social workers giving free hugs, but instead of all of those tanks and multi-function tasers, how about basic psych training in dealing with those people. When cops get burn out, fire them or help them find other directions, it happens in other careers all the time.

Instead we have a blue line pushing out reasonable people that want to serve the public interest, and too many officers playing a game of zero tolerance to drive up revenue as directed by their managers.

The account provided between the cop and the pregnant woman does not differ too much, except both focus on different details. How much did she swear when she tore up the ticket, did the officer even try to talk to her or give her a chance to move, or did the cop just block her in for that $250 fine.
 
2012-06-08 02:20:20 PM  

Enemabag Jones: It is the job of the police to deal with people. Quite often people that make trouble too often or people in compromised emotional states.

Here is the twist, why are too many American cops so aggressive and take-charge they actually escalate the situation. I am not suggesting social workers giving free hugs, but instead of all of those tanks and multi-function tasers, how about basic psych training in dealing with those people. When cops get burn out, fire them or help them find other directions, it happens in other careers all the time.

Instead we have a blue line pushing out reasonable people that want to serve the public interest, and too many officers playing a game of zero tolerance to drive up revenue as directed by their managers.

The account provided between the cop and the pregnant woman does not differ too much, except both focus on different details. How much did she swear when she tore up the ticket, did the officer even try to talk to her or give her a chance to move, or did the cop just block her in for that $250 fine.


Did you read the thread at all? No,okay here's a tidbit mentioned earlier:

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

Doesn't matter if she had just pulled in, allowed her boyfriend to get out of the vehicle, and intended to back out and find suitable parking. She broke the law. These kind of things should be punishable.
 
2012-06-08 02:21:42 PM  
Oh, and lack of respect for police officers.

Too often they act like criminal law and traffic law meter maids anyway so why do they deserve any more respect then a barista. The only reason they get respect is because they can have a big head because they have so much power.

I can tell the barista at Starbucks, screw off, I am not paying $5.00 for that cup of coffee and walk away sans coffee. I may be a jackass for doing that, but I didn't do anything legally wrong. If you tear up a traffic ticket you get 'contempt of cop' charges thrown at you.

Too often the wrong type of cop are in this game and now we have toxic little piece of plutonium being sent to situations where emotionally compromised people are going to be. And god forbid they should not be given the respect they deserve. I think they actually enjoy escalating the situation.

Remember the phrase 'officer of the peace'? The mentality has changed and now they should be called....'entry level SWAT' officers.
 
2012-06-08 02:24:17 PM  
mhuckins,
Did you read the thread at all? No,okay here's a tidbit mentioned earlier:
625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."
Doesn't matter if she had just pulled in, allowed her boyfriend to get out of the vehicle, and intended to back out and find suitable parking. She broke the law. These kind of things should be punishable.


No trolls thanks. I have better things to do now.

I still wasted my time on the internet, but I won't on you.
 
2012-06-08 02:47:21 PM  

mhuckins: Enemabag Jones: It is the job of the police to deal with people. Quite often people that make trouble too often or people in compromised emotional states.

Here is the twist, why are too many American cops so aggressive and take-charge they actually escalate the situation. I am not suggesting social workers giving free hugs, but instead of all of those tanks and multi-function tasers, how about basic psych training in dealing with those people. When cops get burn out, fire them or help them find other directions, it happens in other careers all the time.

Instead we have a blue line pushing out reasonable people that want to serve the public interest, and too many officers playing a game of zero tolerance to drive up revenue as directed by their managers.

The account provided between the cop and the pregnant woman does not differ too much, except both focus on different details. How much did she swear when she tore up the ticket, did the officer even try to talk to her or give her a chance to move, or did the cop just block her in for that $250 fine.

Did you read the thread at all? No,okay here's a tidbit mentioned earlier:

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

Doesn't matter if she had just pulled in, allowed her boyfriend to get out of the vehicle, and intended to back out and find suitable parking. She broke the law. These kind of things should be punishable.


She wasn't unloading a passenger in your scenario?
 
2012-06-08 03:11:50 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: mhuckins: Enemabag Jones: It is the job of the police to deal with people. Quite often people that make trouble too often or people in compromised emotional states.

Here is the twist, why are too many American cops so aggressive and take-charge they actually escalate the situation. I am not suggesting social workers giving free hugs, but instead of all of those tanks and multi-function tasers, how about basic psych training in dealing with those people. When cops get burn out, fire them or help them find other directions, it happens in other careers all the time.

Instead we have a blue line pushing out reasonable people that want to serve the public interest, and too many officers playing a game of zero tolerance to drive up revenue as directed by their managers.

The account provided between the cop and the pregnant woman does not differ too much, except both focus on different details. How much did she swear when she tore up the ticket, did the officer even try to talk to her or give her a chance to move, or did the cop just block her in for that $250 fine.

Did you read the thread at all? No,okay here's a tidbit mentioned earlier:

625 ILCS 5/1-155.5 defines parking to mean "the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than when temporarily and actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers."

Doesn't matter if she had just pulled in, allowed her boyfriend to get out of the vehicle, and intended to back out and find suitable parking. She broke the law. These kind of things should be punishable.

She wasn't unloading a passenger in your scenario?


My scenario reiterates how she broke the law.

Enemabag Jones is saying that the cop blocked her in just so he could give her a ticket. It wouldn't have mattered if the cop let her move to a different parking spot, she broke Illinois law.

Enemabag Jones:

No trolls thanks. I have better things to do now.

I still wasted my time on the internet, but I won't on you.


Awe, did your feelings get all butthurt? I'm shait at trolling, but I am pretty decent at researching laws. Take your cop-hate to your city counsel and try to change the way things are. biatching about things is useless and isn't going to fix anything.
 
2012-06-08 03:22:53 PM  
mhuckins,

I hate arguing constantly about unknown specifics with people that just want to argue. And I don't want to constantly bicker about bullshiat. Go find another person to get angry.

Alternatively, instead of trying to get people angry on the internet, go outside. Try something new. Enjoy life.
 
2012-06-08 05:45:19 PM  

Hawnkee: The kid will be named Zap.


3.bp.blogspot.com

"Rowsdower?"
 
2012-06-08 07:31:14 PM  

mhuckins: //kinda might of highlighted you red


Might HAVE. WTF is "might of"?
 
2012-06-08 07:37:00 PM  

zenferret: mhuckins: //kinda might of highlighted you red

Might HAVE. WTF is "might of"?


I'd love to answer this, but instead I will ask if you know of Love in War.
 
2012-06-08 07:40:50 PM  

mhuckins: I'd love to answer this, but instead I will ask if you know of Love in War.


No, here's a better idea: how about you answer this?

/pet peeve. "Might've" is a contraction of "Might have". "Might of" makes no damn sense.
 
2012-06-08 08:01:15 PM  

zenferret: mhuckins: I'd love to answer this, but instead I will ask if you know of Love in War.

No, here's a better idea: how about you answer this?

/pet peeve. "Might've" is a contraction of "Might have". "Might of" makes no damn sense.


No, you haven't heard of them or you just wanna bust my balls. Things said in slashies shouldn't count.
 
2012-06-08 08:37:28 PM  

mhuckins: No, you haven't heard of them or you just wanna bust my balls.


No, I don't care about them, you're merely attempting to change the subject to avoid embarrassment. And yes, I just wanna bust your balls.
 
2012-06-09 01:36:43 AM  

thamike: Hawnkee: The kid will be named Zap.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 302x226]

"Rowsdower?"


None other!
 
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