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(The Daily Beast)   58 prcnt of teens txt whl drving and thnk its safe f u hold phone up so u cn see road LOL whoa WTF lookoutAAAUUUGHH--   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 85
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2012-06-07 10:27:24 PM  
We hopped on the great interstate 65 and headed to the beach last weekend. It's not just teens, we saw at least three middle-aged women that just barely missed being hit by other vehicles because they were talking/texting/doing something with their phone.

Sister: Holy shiii - that 18-wheeler almost smashed that van!
Me: Oh, look, she's on her phone (she was holding it with both hands at the top of the steering wheel).
Sister: Think she's texting "This dumbass just ran me off the road!"?
 
2012-06-07 10:29:01 PM  

sk8r: Shaggy_C: Nem Wan: Not to rain on anyone's moral panic, but we're safer than ever from cars anyway.

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Deaths may be down, but is that a function of safer vehicles or reduced numbers of accidents?

Better EMS services, communications and advances in trauma medicine. Bet our accident rate per million miles hasn't changed much.


This. Just because nobody is DYING doesn't mean we're not having less accidents. You'll notice that INSURANCE RATES are not going down any.

Plus, what about accidents that take place at low speeds? You're not going to die, but with modern cars, a fender bender has turned into a "sorry, we're declaring this car totaled, here's your check for a third of what you paid for it," letter from your carrier.
 
2012-06-07 10:29:31 PM  

Shaggy_C: I guess I just lucked out the last time - went from a Kia hatchback to an Audi convertible without a penny out of pocket. Had it been the Audi that had wrecked, well, it probably would have been the opposite direction :)


Good lord, was the Kia gold-plated or was the claims adjustor from Korea and Kia's were his only reference point for "luxury" autos?
 
2012-06-07 10:29:38 PM  

RogermcAllen: Thac0isWhac0: BeerBear: Shaggy_C: BeerBear: almost got broadsided from a teen texting while driving as she went through the red light, idiot gave me the finger as if it was my fault for going through the green light

Too bad she didn't hit you. An at-fault accident where your ride gets totaled is just another way of saying "free car upgrade", all on her dime.

/YMMV, particularly if injury or death is involved...

teenagers won't have much $$$, would have to go after the parents of the girl

That's where insurance comes into play.

They are likely under insured. Your best hope is that the parent's cosigned on the car and are listed on the title so that you can sue them to get your money.

/never put your name on the title to a vehicle driven by someone you don't trust with your life's savings


I got rear ended by a teenager about 10 years ago and the little Escort I was driving was no match for his Dakota. Got more from the insurance company than I paid for the car.
 
2012-06-07 10:29:54 PM  
I had a boss who would text behind the wheel while driving the rest of us to get blasted on Fridays at lunch time. He was great.
 
2012-06-07 10:33:26 PM  

Do the needful: CSB. My daughter just lost two friends who went to her high school. Turns out the driver and passenger were texting when they crashed the car. Killed them both on impact, which neither one of them saw coming (at least you hope).



/Maybe that wasn't so CSB, except it really made an impression on my daughter and hopefully a number of other kids at this school. Sad way to learn a lesson though.


Also lesson #9875 on why Personal Liability Umbrellas are damn near necessity these days. Especially where judgements are non-severable debt.
 
2012-06-07 10:41:54 PM  
Porsche Girl unavailable for comment...
 
2012-06-07 10:46:40 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Good lord, was the Kia gold-plated or was the claims adjustor from Korea and Kia's were his only reference point for "luxury" autos?


Well, let me clarify - the Kia insurance money was used as a down payment. I'll be continuing to make approximately the same monthly payments for an additional 5 years than I had originally intended if the wreck had never happened. So there will be money out of pocket down the line, just not yet. On the plus side, insuring an Audi convertible is actually cheaper than insuring a Kia. Maybe German steel won't crush like an aluminum can at the thought of an impact, therefore making the injury costs less severe?
 
2012-06-07 10:50:31 PM  
Centers for Disease Control? Is texting now a disease?
 
2012-06-07 10:51:52 PM  

Shaggy_C: On the plus side, insuring an Audi convertible is actually cheaper than insuring a Kia. Maybe German steel won't crush like an aluminum can at the thought of an impact, therefore making the injury costs less severe?


Any safety benefits are nice but I believe Kias are starting to be stolen more and parted out. Nothing on the level of Toyotas but when you go from zero market exposure to an ok foothold those numbers skyrocket in a hurry.
 
2012-06-07 10:51:52 PM  

saturn badger: Centers for Disease Control? Is texting now a disease?


Yes... yes it is.
 
2012-06-07 11:08:14 PM  
For anyone who hasn't seen it, this YouTube PSA from the UK should help you resist the temptation to text and drive:

Link


Elder Farkers may remember "Signal 30" by the Ohio Highway Patrol, the midcentury movie that gave a good scare to untold thousands of driver's-ed students:

Link

/drive safely out there, Farkers......
 
2012-06-07 11:09:00 PM  

Znuh: One good thwack at 30 miles an hour gives a good new appreciation of the physics of what you're piloting, and the consequences of not paying attention.


This! I was driving my GF's 2 door honda civic about a year ago when a teenager in a Cadillac SUV T-boned us on our passenger front quarter panel. He was only going about 10 miles an hour and I managed to slam on the breaks a bit before he hit, but it felt like I got punched (hard) in my entire body at once. Knocked my sunglasses off, did about 4 grand in damage to the Civic... Luckily no one was hurt. We were a little stiff for a day or two.

But ya, most people don't have a tactile feel for the forces involved. A car has a LOT of momentum, even at a low speed. Especially at a high speed.

/That accident bumped her up to a brand new tricked out Mazda sedan.
 
2012-06-07 11:16:00 PM  
58 percent of teens? They polled every teenager? Or did they go to a mall on Saturday afternoon and ask 12 random teens? I hate these all inclusive statistics 56% of the time I read them.
 
2012-06-07 11:23:41 PM  
The 58% number includes people who text while stopped at red lights. Nothing wrong with that if you keep an eye out for the light turning green. That's a very broad definition of texting while driving. Yes, technically the car is in drive, not park, but there's a big difference between texting while driving in heavy traffic and while sitting stopped at a light. These numbers also came from polls of teens, not exactly a trustworthy source, so take it with a grain of salt. I bet the numbers are low due to teens not wanting to admit their real habits even in an anonymous poll, though also inflated from a broad definition of driving...

/there's lies, damn lies, and statistics
//numbers can show whatever you want if you have an agenda
 
2012-06-07 11:37:40 PM  

Badgers: Porsche Girl unavailable for comment...


Didn't she go out old school, high on the cocaine?
 
2012-06-07 11:38:36 PM  

Shaggy_C: vudukungfu: masturbating behind the wheel

Waiting for the flood of CSBs now...I can't be the only one who has done this, right?


I... ummmm... know a guy who did that once. Once.
Never took his eyes off the road, though.
 
2012-06-07 11:48:50 PM  

Mixolydian Master: 58 percent of teens? They polled every teenager? Or did they go to a mall on Saturday afternoon and ask 12 random teens? I hate these all inclusive statistics 56% of the time I read them.


Somebody doesn't understand statistics....
 
2012-06-07 11:54:03 PM  

BeerBear: detritus: BeerBear: almost got broadsided from a teen texting while driving as she went through the red light, idiot gave me the finger as if it was my fault for going through the green light

I would have stopped, called 911 and followed the little shiat until a cop arrived.

pretty sure the cops can't do anything unless they saw it themselves or she had hit me


You witnessed a ran stop sign. She has text messages either sent or received to prove it. Where I live, texting and driving is also a crime. So is running stop signs.
 
2012-06-08 12:22:58 AM  

Shaggy_C: LordOfThePings: Were you dictating?

They should be. The technology is there now, no reason for texting while driving these days. Especially if you're on a touchscreen phone, wtf. It's not like you can feel the keyboard and continue typing while doing something else (similar to most Farkers ability to tell their mom they'll clean up the empty pizza boxes and "dirty" socks from the basement while never once stopping their typing to their WoW clan). If you're going to text in the car with an iPhone, do it at a red light at least.


Fail. Warcraft has guilds, not clans.
 
2012-06-08 12:49:34 AM  

nonsequitor: The 58% number includes people who text while stopped at red lights. Nothing wrong with that if you keep an eye out for the light turning green. That's a very broad definition of texting while driving. Yes, technically the car is in drive, not park, but there's a big difference between texting while driving in heavy traffic and while sitting stopped at a light. These numbers also came from polls of teens, not exactly a trustworthy source, so take it with a grain of salt. I bet the numbers are low due to teens not wanting to admit their real habits even in an anonymous poll, though also inflated from a broad definition of driving...

/there's lies, damn lies, and statistics
//numbers can show whatever you want if you have an agenda


In Minnesota texting while behind the wheel is illegal even if you're at a red light or stop sign.
 
2012-06-08 12:52:12 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Look, if he was about to get into a car crash, he wouldn't text "WTF lookoutAAAUUUGHH". He'd just say it!


/leaving satisfied
 
2012-06-08 01:43:19 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Badgers: Porsche Girl unavailable for comment...

Didn't she go out old school, high on the cocaine?


Who knows. It's not like you can ask a smear on the asphalt any questions and the other half that was still left didn't have a brain.
 
2012-06-08 02:10:07 AM  
It's really not that hard.
 
2012-06-08 02:20:16 AM  
These punk kids are so stupid it's pathetic.
 
2012-06-08 02:51:34 AM  
I used to easily send as many texts per day as quoted in the article, but never when driving. It's such an obvious difficulty to drive when texting, not sure how it could be justified.

/20 years old now
//Not too much older than a teenager
///We get twice as 'useful' every year
 
2012-06-08 03:48:18 AM  
I have a solution.

Texting started as a gross money making scheme for cell companies -- who knew the bandwidth used was less than that for voice but charged considerably more because it became popular.

Since then accidents caused by texting have soared with a shockingly rising death toll -- even though laws have been made to prevent it. Texting has caused numerous problems in college concerning cheating. The cell phone companies have managed to get cell phone blockers made illegal. (They must have paid congress millions for that little bit of regulation.)

However, teens have poured billions into the pockets of the cell companies by texting.

So, make a law that stops all cell phones from being able to text. Require that the program be shut down and not installed in any new cells.

Thousands of lives will be saved and thousands more will not wind up in the hospital after wrecking their cars while texting and colleges and schools can reduce the number of cheaters.
 
2012-06-08 05:27:17 AM  

Shaggy_C: Nem Wan: Not to rain on anyone's moral panic, but we're safer than ever from cars anyway.

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Deaths may be down, but is that a function of safer vehicles or reduced numbers of accidents?


It could also have to do with medical advances. Injuries that would have been fatal 60 years ago can are now not necessarily so. I don't know that cheating death to live as a quadreplegic is a really great outcome, but it doesn't show up as a fatality on statistics tables.
 
2012-06-08 05:35:23 AM  

nonsequitor: The 58% number includes people who text while stopped at red lights. Nothing wrong with that if you keep an eye out for the light turning green. That's a very broad definition of texting while driving. Yes, technically the car is in drive, not park, but there's a big difference between texting while driving in heavy traffic and while sitting stopped at a light. These numbers also came from polls of teens, not exactly a trustworthy source, so take it with a grain of salt. I bet the numbers are low due to teens not wanting to admit their real habits even in an anonymous poll, though also inflated from a broad definition of driving...

/there's lies, damn lies, and statistics
//numbers can show whatever you want if you have an agenda


It's probably higher, given that 13 to 15-year-olds are teens but can't drive.
 
2012-06-08 07:12:06 AM  
you can always use you phone to take video of the stupid things other people are doing while driving. Make sure you switch the phone camera to point outwards though.
 
2012-06-08 07:29:14 AM  
I completely agree. Gives me more reason to request their phone records be used in the trial.
 
2012-06-08 10:42:07 AM  
I TRIED to text AAAUUUGHH! while driving, but my phone auto-corrected it to 'abating.'

/girlfriend wasn't so much worried, as confused.
 
2012-06-08 12:52:57 PM  

Mugato: Nem Wan: Not to rain on anyone's moral panic, but we're safer than ever from cars anyway.

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You're white knighting people who text and drive?


No, I'm suggesting freedom and safety/security are trade-offs but why make the trade when we're getting better safety for free? If they had banned phones in cars 20 years ago, people who supported that ban would have surely taken credit for a positive safety trend that was going to happen anyway without that ban.

I've seen texting ban proposals that would ban texting but not voice, and not require hand-free voice. If you've used a recent smartphone you know that makes no sense at all. Is using voice recognition to text "texting"? When the phone displays the name of an incoming caller is that different than receiving a three word text? Is sending a brief text different than looking up a voice contact? Not everything that's "bad" should be criminalized, because law enforcement is a very blunt instrument.
 
2012-06-08 03:17:29 PM  

Nem Wan: I'm suggesting freedom and safety/security are trade-offs but why make the trade when we're getting better safety for free?


That's silly.

If X freedom is worth less than Y safety, then the only reason getting Z safety from another source matters is if we reach a cap. Do you believe we are at a cap?

At the same time, should be make the opposite trade? Since we are getting Z safety anyways, maybe we should increase our freedom at the cost of some of that safety? Lets get rid of seat belt laws since cars are better. Why, someday we might even be able to eliminate lights and stop signs if we make safe enough cars!

If that last paragraph seems silly to you, then you aren't thinking clearly: it has to work both ways. You have as much responsibility to explain why some exact level of freedom/safety is perfect if you are going to make an assertion that depends on it.
 
2012-06-09 12:26:55 AM  

BeerBear: detritus: BeerBear: almost got broadsided from a teen texting while driving as she went through the red light, idiot gave me the finger as if it was my fault for going through the green light

I would have stopped, called 911 and followed the little shiat until a cop arrived.

pretty sure the cops can't do anything unless they saw it themselves or she had hit me


You can press charges and they'll give her the ticket, but you have to show up in court as a witness if she contests the fine.

Rik01: So, make a law that stops all cell phones from being able to text. Require that the program be shut down and not installed in any new cells.


There are already dozens of free texting services, though none as universal as SMS: iMessage, GTalk, Skype, Trillian, Y! Messenger, MSN Messenger, the list goes on and on. They'll just take over the new market and nothing will change... although I'd like to see the panic that a new epidemic of Video Chat would cause.
 
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