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(No Aqua Man please)   Script for 'The Justice League' described as "dark and mature", making it the complete opposite of 'The Avengers'   (wegotthiscovered.com) divider line 20
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2012-06-07 10:33:14 PM
5 votes:
Without an actual comic geek to run the show as mandated by the parent company, in this case probably Warner Communications, this project is destined to be at best half-assed.

This is why: WB suits who aren't comic geeks and just want to use the eventual ticket sales to boost their careers won't take the source seriously and will want to put their own ideas in it so their projects would have their fingerprints on it. (Taking the source seriously doesn't mean making a dark and mature movie that adults would like - Avengers is an example of filmmakers taking the source seriously but making a fun movie out of it.) They could get the best writers, directors, editors and effects companies, but if the liaison between Warner and the project's director gets nervous, thinks of their career and gets cold feet, and forces the creative staff to dumb down the movie so it's more universal for ticket sales' sake, the project is doomed.

Martin Campbell reinvented Bond twice. For the 1990s and then for 2000s. Successfully. Then look what happened at Green Lantern. Almost beat-by-beat Superman the Movie even though the initial shooting script had a totally different story structure. Almost every effects scene was revealed in every trailer and featurette beforehand. I'd like to think some cowering WB suit had a hand in those acts.

Why were the Avengers movie and lead-up movies successful? There was a comic book geek in charge that took the source seriously and hired the most suited people for each movie. Without the equivalent of Kevin Feige in WB who answers only to the parent company's directors and not to other executives, the Justice League movie won't be half the movie Avengers is.

/not being a hater, just observing the situation.
//desperately want a JL movie to succeed
2012-06-07 11:23:25 PM
2 votes:
LOL at the Marvel Zombies on this thread. Avengers movie stole its story flat from Justice League comics and cartoons.

What? Scared about little Batman and his pals punching a hole in your reality?

Anyway, WB will drop the ball. I know it.

Unless they do this:

They should hire Grant Morrison or Mark Waid to do a JLA story treatment. Considering both wrote introductions to the League with New World Order and Year One, they're perfect for it.

And both stories even got adapted/merged for the DCAU cartoon, so you know they're legit.

Also, they should hire a good director, someone who cares, present the framework he needs to work with and LET HIM DO it. No farking suits meddling. Suits are useless.

J.J. Abrams or Brad Bird are great choices.

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Cyborg (Covers both the black quota and the tech character audiences would expect)

Aquaman, but only if they get rid of the name. I like Arthur a lot, but always despised the name. It's stupid. He has zero reason to use it. It's like still saying the Sub-Mariner when referring to Namor.

No Martian Manhunter. Sorry, but it only works in comics and cartoons. No movie with Martians has ever turned a profit. And we live in an era where we KNOW Martians don't exist.

They should still do a Hyperclan storyline where a group of aliens come here and have epic fights with each of the League.
2012-06-07 11:22:04 PM
2 votes:

9beers: What sucks about Aqua Man is that the story has to be written in a way as to give him something to do. Without water, he might as well stay home and let the other heroes handle it.


The Superfriends version, maybe. But considering that Aquaman is insanely strong (like, Superman-levels) and fast even on land (as a result of being able to survive deep-sea pressures), is the ruler of a technologically-advanced kingdom that covers 75 percent of the planet? He's actually got tons of badass potential. It's just rare that people know how to exploit that potential.

Oh, and he can control EVERYTHING that lives in the sea.

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2012-06-07 05:45:27 PM
2 votes:
What sucks about Aqua Man is that the story has to be written in a way as to give him something to do. Without water, he might as well stay home and let the other heroes handle it.
2012-06-08 02:05:03 AM
1 votes:
And everybody...

2.bp.blogspot.com /= www.vegalleries.com

/seriously, justice league is badass, as are all the characters if done right
2012-06-07 11:51:02 PM
1 votes:
I have a better idea.

Another season of JLU. Or, if this movie is made, we put Dini in charge. Of everything.

/ACtually can we just do that with all comics forever?
2012-06-07 11:45:30 PM
1 votes:

BroVinny: rocky_howard: BroVinny: rocky_howard: LOL at the Marvel Zombies on this thread. Avengers movie stole its story flat from Justice League comics and cartoons.

Baseless assertion is baseless. I'm sure if it's true you can clearly point out specifics.

If you actually read comics, you'd see them right away. As it is, I won't even argue with you.

IOW, "I don't have specifics to point out, I'm just trolling Marvel fans."

You brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come. You don't get to come back tomorrow. You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game. You're a complete loser!


I actually have specifics.

Thanos = Darkseid
The portal = Boomtubes
The Tesseract = The Warlogog
The "Chitauri" = Parademons
Loki = Steppenwolf

Just look at this video. Alien mastermind overlord talking to his minions and summoning a "general" to send with his army of mindless drones (look at this other video) Loki even used the same flying jetski.

Avengers was an awesome movie. I saw it four times at the cinema. Never done that before. But this is how it is.
2012-06-07 11:43:24 PM
1 votes:

ronin7: FreetardoRivera: Balchinian: "A pal of mine is good friends with the new Justice League screenwriter and said..."

A friend of a friend of a friend said it is cool. Uh-huh.

Look, there is a reason the Avengers did well. People like the Avengers. Lots of people bought the comic books. The Justice League??? Gawd, you had to put it in the middle of Saturday morning cartoons just to get kids to know who these clowns were...the bottom line is that you simply don't have a solid voluntary fan base. .

DC cleans the clock with marvel in the animated series department.

Can we not discuss animated series ? Its.... a hard time to be a fan of marvel's animated series.

Rest In Peace EMH.


*gasp*

It's gone?!?
2012-06-07 11:41:40 PM
1 votes:

FreetardoRivera: Balchinian: "A pal of mine is good friends with the new Justice League screenwriter and said..."

A friend of a friend of a friend said it is cool. Uh-huh.

Look, there is a reason the Avengers did well. People like the Avengers. Lots of people bought the comic books. The Justice League??? Gawd, you had to put it in the middle of Saturday morning cartoons just to get kids to know who these clowns were...the bottom line is that you simply don't have a solid voluntary fan base. .

DC cleans the clock with marvel in the animated series department.


Can we not discuss animated series ? Its.... a hard time to be a fan of marvel's animated series.

Rest In Peace EMH.
2012-06-07 11:38:18 PM
1 votes:

Balchinian: "A pal of mine is good friends with the new Justice League screenwriter and said..."

A friend of a friend of a friend said it is cool. Uh-huh.

Look, there is a reason the Avengers did well. People like the Avengers. Lots of people bought the comic books. The Justice League??? Gawd, you had to put it in the middle of Saturday morning cartoons just to get kids to know who these clowns were...the bottom line is that you simply don't have a solid voluntary fan base. .


DC cleans the clock with marvel in the animated series department.
2012-06-07 11:32:00 PM
1 votes:

BroVinny: rocky_howard: LOL at the Marvel Zombies on this thread. Avengers movie stole its story flat from Justice League comics and cartoons.

Baseless assertion is baseless. I'm sure if it's true you can clearly point out specifics.


If you actually read comics, you'd see them right away. As it is, I won't even argue with you.
2012-06-07 11:30:20 PM
1 votes:

Balchinian: Look, there is a reason the Avengers did well. People like the Avengers. Lots of people bought the comic books. The Justice League??? Gawd, you had to put it in the middle of Saturday morning cartoons just to get kids to know who these clowns were...the bottom line is that you simply don't have a solid voluntary fan base. Nobody gives a rat's ass about Aquaman. Nobody ever did. GL has teh ghey now, so the movie will have to pander to that, the Flash on film means trite headache-inducing blur effects, Superman is a dick and so freaking predictable that he would be a snap to defeat for anyone with a realistically intelligent brain, Wonder Woman...well, she has boobs, so there is that going for you, and without the dark psychological background, Batman is nothing but a guy with a lot of really cool and expensive toys.


Uh...no. If you don't know what you're talking about, just shut up. For decades Avengers was an inviable franchise. Heck, Marvel even leased it to Rob Liefeld and Jim Lee in the 90s to see if they could get it running. Nope. And that was after giving Cap armor, turning Tony into a teenager and taking Thor's godhood away.

After Blade success in the late 90s, Hollywood started snatching Marvel properties left and right. FOX got X-Men, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Universal got Hulk, Sony got Spider-Man and Ghost Rider, etc. The only properties nobody even looked at? Avengers. In hindsight, it ended up being better that way.

It's only when Mark Millar did the reimagination called The Ultimates that the ball really got rolling. Before that, comics Avengers were the lame-ass version of the Justice League. It's not a coincidence that the Marvel movie universe is based around it.

After Ultimates, Marvel and Brian Bendis started incorporating more and more of that version into the regular Avengers.
2012-06-07 10:54:34 PM
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: So are they gonna have the Legion of Doom?


Nah, Hawk's dead, Droz is crippled, and Heidenreich is ungrateful.
2012-06-07 10:43:47 PM
1 votes:

PizzaJedi81: BroVinny: I thought he was Static Shock.

Nah, that's a completely seperate character.


They all look alike.
2012-06-07 10:03:22 PM
1 votes:

Teufelaffe: Mugato: Except with the exception of Batman and Superman Wonder Woman, the JL is lame.

Superman is beyond lame. Hey! Let's make a completely indestructible character whose only weakness is a specific material that is either incredibly rare or about as easy to obtain as chewing gum, depending on what the current batch of writers are in the mood for. Then, the only way we can build any sense of tension for the character at all is to have that material show up in every. freaking. story.


Don't forget that he only faces off against smart guys involved in land swindles.
2012-06-07 09:58:10 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Abandon this film idea. Anyone outside Geekville will consider it an Avengers copycat.


Yep. Also, everyone knows that Marvel is better than DC anyways.
2012-06-07 09:58:05 PM
1 votes:
Fark you guys. I like Martian Manhunter.
2012-06-07 09:56:18 PM
1 votes:
So when are the Justice Friends gonna get a movie? We need to see Major Glory, Val Hallen, the Infragable Krunk, et all in action.
2012-06-07 09:21:34 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, Subby, the other thing that makes Justice League the polar opposite of Avengers?

Avengers was actually made.
2012-06-07 06:13:57 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Abandon this film idea. Anyone outside Geekville will consider it an Avengers copycat.


If done right, it would be bigger than Avengers. Throw a bunch of money at Nolan and Bale and it can't fail. It'll never happen but it should.
 
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