fight! fight! fight!

I recommend AMPUTATION!!!

I think it's ironic that they are fighting over a libertarian and a liberal for the GOP nomination. See conservatives, this is what happens if you over use doublethink.

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That guy looks like he's about to rape that popcorn.

Demetrius: My guess is that one way or another the Paulites are going to be not very welcome at the convention. Mitt's going to have to pay Paul off or make him huge promises and get him to get his people to give it up.

Yep, the race is going to be too close to have a "ralph nader type" out there taking votes away.

Demetrius: My guess is that one way or another the Paulites are going to be not very welcome at the convention. Mitt's going to have to pay Paul off or make him huge promises and get him to get his people to give it up.

It won't be interesting. They'll be ignored, not given any positions on any meaningful committees, not given space at official pressers, and relegated to giving interviews at the fringes of the convention to lesser media outlets as the big ones will be elsewhere trying to get time with people who matter to the party. They'll probably stage an external rally that won't get more than 5 minutes of air time.

They'll be loud and annoying but will be all but gone from the news 3 days post-convention when the typical short-lived 'convention bump' every candidate gets raises Romney's poll numbers and that becomes the next horserace story.

Pat Robertson tried this same tactic in Michigan back in 1987. It failed miserably. At the Republican national convention, they refused to acknowledge the existence of Robertson's "Official" delegates, unsurprisingly preferring the delegates that actually represented the overwhelming majority of voters. As a secondary effect, Robertson's name became a dirty word in Michigan, and he couldn't get the time of day there for years afterwards.

Ron Paul supporters are deluded, as always. Nothing new here.

I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here. He's going to troll the shiat out of the GOP convention in Tampa, and if he runs as an independent, he'll split the conservative vote by a few percentage points. It's a win-win for liberals of all stripes. Whatever happened to "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
You have to learn to work smart, not hard.

James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

Well, you aren't wrong.

cbcs: I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here.

Because he and his followers are loony toones.

Deneb81: Demetrius: My guess is that one way or another the Paulites are going to be not very welcome at the convention. Mitt's going to have to pay Paul off or make him huge promises and get him to get his people to give it up.

It won't be interesting. They'll be ignored, not given any positions on any meaningful committees, not given space at official pressers, and relegated to giving interviews at the fringes of the convention to lesser media outlets as the big ones will be elsewhere trying to get time with people who matter to the party. They'll probably stage an external rally that won't get more than 5 minutes of air time.

They'll be loud and annoying but will be all but gone from the news 3 days post-convention when the typical short-lived 'convention bump' every candidate gets raises Romney's poll numbers and that becomes the next horserace story.

Pretty much this. A few key Paul supporters will get wined and dined and plied with empty promises about their future in the party at the convention and the rest of the pack will just be shouting into the wind.

James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

They'd have to be libertarians to support the libertarian party. Ron Paul is not a libertarian and neither are his supporters. They just like to play pretend.

ReaverZ: cbcs: I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here.

Because he and his followers are loony toones.

I agree. They're intolerable. But the only person that hate more than Obama is Mittens. Why not use that to show how fractured the GOP is? Just a question.

Jubeebee: RON PAUL
RE[PUNCH]LUTION

I always thought that "rEVOLution" thing was about the dumbest marketing you could get.

1) you're incorporating 'LOVE' in your slogan to a base that is likely to immediately dismiss you as a hippie and not pay one bit of attention to anything else you say. Using that in a Republican campaign was tone deaf to the Nth degree.

2) to someone who DOESN'T pick up on the hippie 'love' schtick, it's bolding "EVOL". Is that short for evolution? That's again tone deaf for the R base.

3) or phonetically it's extremely similar to evil depending on dialect/accent. (r)EVIL? Why would you associate with that?

In any event, it was tone deaf AND poorly thought out.

cbcs: ReaverZ: cbcs: I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here.

Because he and his followers are loony toones.

I agree. They're intolerable. But the only person that hate more than Obama is Mittens. Why not use that to show how fractured the GOP is? Just a question.

For me it is because the idelogical purity required by the different bases of the GOP will do it all by itself.

FuturePastNow: James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

They'd have to be libertarians to support the libertarian party. Ron Paul is not a libertarian and neither are his supporters. They just like to play pretend.

But to be fair, the Libertarian Party candidate for President both in this election and in the last election haven't been libertarians either. The Libertarian Party is nothing more than a haven for failed Republicans.

cbcs: ReaverZ: cbcs: I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here.

Because he and his followers are loony toones.

I agree. They're intolerable. But the only person that hate more than Obama is Mittens. Why not use that to show how fractured the GOP is? Just a question.

Also the Democrats are bad at politics. Their advisers are worse.

Look on the bright side: Everyone gets to bring their guns to Tampa.

ReaverZ: cbcs: ReaverZ: cbcs: I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here.

Because he and his followers are loony toones.

I agree. They're intolerable. But the only person that hate more than Obama is Mittens. Why not use that to show how fractured the GOP is? Just a question.

For me it is because the idelogical purity required by the different bases of the GOP will do it all by itself.

Great point, but I'm going to reserve real hate for social conservatives.

cbcs: ReaverZ: cbcs: I have a hard time understanding the Paulistinian hate here on Fark, especially from the Democrats here.

Because he and his followers are loony toones.

I agree. They're intolerable. But the only person that hate more than Obama is Mittens. Why not use that to show how fractured the GOP is? Just a question.

The best thing to do with that is nothing. They will fight and they won't really care about what Democrats may say about their fight. It will be fun to see how much chaos Paul causes but realistically it will probably have little to no impact. Also, Ron Paul will definitely not run as an independent. He's a Republican party man first and somewhat libertarian guy second.

James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

Which is good. Libertarianism is just anarchism for rich people.

JAYoung: Look on the bright side: Everyone gets to bring their guns to Tampa.

They had better bring some big farking guns.
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Demetrius: Deneb81: Demetrius: My guess is that one way or another the Paulites are going to be not very welcome at the convention. Mitt's going to have to pay Paul off or make him huge promises and get him to get his people to give it up.

It won't be interesting. They'll be ignored, not given any positions on any meaningful committees, not given space at official pressers, and relegated to giving interviews at the fringes of the convention to lesser media outlets as the big ones will be elsewhere trying to get time with people who matter to the party. They'll probably stage an external rally that won't get more than 5 minutes of air time.

They'll be loud and annoying but will be all but gone from the news 3 days post-convention when the typical short-lived 'convention bump' every candidate gets raises Romney's poll numbers and that becomes the next horserace story.

I'm not so sure. They've shown no reluctance to get into fights with the rank-and-file GOP. A little violence breaks out at the convention and you won't hear the end of it on any news outlet.

A few nuts annoying local area party Gestapo to excess doesn't scale to the national party.

I don't know how much local politics you've been involved in, but there's a LOT of mini-dictators with delusions of importance in both parties. They have neither the skill/savvy nor the intelligence/charisma of people higher up that will be at the convention. And the more aggressive Paulites will be screened out or escorted out before they can really start anything.

I can picture that giant evil roach on Family Guy saying 'Good, Good."

Ukraine based spambots.

That's all I'm gonna say.

Demetrius: My guess is that one way or another the Paulites are going to be not very welcome at the convention. Mitt's going to have to pay Paul off or make him huge promises and get him to get his people to give it up.

The funny thing is that I don't think it's going to stop them. The whole RP thing has morphed into this weird personality cult that believes the country NEEDS what Paul is offering. After his concession speech, there were a lot of supporters talking about continuing the campaign even without Paul's support because his message is just too important to let it drop.

This is going to get out of control. This will lead to the creation of the Mississippi Freedom Republican Nazi Party. They will try to be seated at the national Republican convention but will be thrown out for being too nice.

This will get ugly.

If they die, they die.

Philip Francis Queeg: FuturePastNow: James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

They'd have to be libertarians to support the libertarian party. Ron Paul is not a libertarian and neither are his supporters. They just like to play pretend.

But to be fair, the Libertarian Party candidate for President both in this election and in the last election haven't been libertarians either. The Libertarian Party is nothing more than a haven for failed Republicans.

No true Scotsman!

Geotpf: Philip Francis Queeg: FuturePastNow: James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

They'd have to be libertarians to support the libertarian party. Ron Paul is not a libertarian and neither are his supporters. They just like to play pretend.

But to be fair, the Libertarian Party candidate for President both in this election and in the last election haven't been libertarians either. The Libertarian Party is nothing more than a haven for failed Republicans.

No true Scotsman!

The Libertarians are running a candidate who ran for the Republican nomination for President in this very election cycle.

Why the hell ANY self-proclaimed independent conservative would vote for Romney instead of Gary Johnson baffles me.

Meh. Abbie Hoffman did it better.

Philip Francis Queeg: Geotpf: Philip Francis Queeg: FuturePastNow: James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

They'd have to be libertarians to support the libertarian party. Ron Paul is not a libertarian and neither are his supporters. They just like to play pretend.

But to be fair, the Libertarian Party candidate for President both in this election and in the last election haven't been libertarians either. The Libertarian Party is nothing more than a haven for failed Republicans.

No true Scotsman!

The Libertarians are running a candidate who ran for the Republican nomination for President in this very election cycle.

To be fair, Gary Johnson is pretty awesome.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Why the hell ANY self-proclaimed independent conservative would vote for Romney instead of Gary Johnson baffles me.

I've been saying this since day one.

What a lovely, content free article.

As much as I would love for the Paultes to wreck havoc at the convention and hurt Romney's chances in November, I suspect this is a whole lotta sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Philip Francis Queeg: FuturePastNow: James!: If these RON PAUL supporters put their energy into the libertarian party they might actually have something, but they're wasting their time with the republicans.

They'd have to be libertarians to support the libertarian party. Ron Paul is not a libertarian and neither are his supporters. They just like to play pretend.

But to be fair, the Libertarian Party candidate for President both in this election and in the last election haven't been libertarians either. The Libertarian Party is nothing more than a haven for failed Republicans.

Exactly. An awful lot of so-called libertarians are just Republicans who don't want to call themselves Republicans.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Why the hell ANY self-proclaimed independent conservative Republican embarrassed by W would vote for Romney instead of Gary Johnson baffles me.

Does that clear it up?