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2012-06-07 10:23:14 AM
HEY! we are the best half a season team in the league
 
2012-06-07 10:29:16 AM

justneal: HEY! we are the best half a season team in the league


The half that runs February through September?
 
2012-06-07 10:30:23 AM
Here's how the AFC East is going to play out this year:

Jets 13-3
Bills 9-7
Pats 8-8
Dolphins 3-13

Believe it.
 
2012-06-07 10:30:57 AM
All five of those are pretty simple, but come to think about it it's a good article. Sometimes idiots have to be reminded not to be idiots and some agents won't want to do that. They want to be their be$t friend.
 
2012-06-07 10:35:53 AM
Except for #5, shouldn't everyone follow that advice?

//Well and the fast food thing. Love me some Taco Bell.
 
2012-06-07 10:39:53 AM
They should all be shown this instructional video that illustrates that even when you have money you can live frugally.
 
2012-06-07 10:48:16 AM

roc6783: Except for #5, shouldn't everyone follow that advice?

//Well and the fast food thing. Love me some Taco Bell.


This is pretty much good advice for any young person, not just NFL rookies.
 
2012-06-07 11:01:00 AM
Don't they make every rookie attend a ton of meetings to teach them about these things?
 
2012-06-07 11:39:03 AM
i512.photobucket.com

Somebody wants an upgrade.
 
2012-06-07 11:41:43 AM
Also, fark you subby. The fish are going 10-6 this year. Book it.
 
2012-06-07 11:45:47 AM

UNC_Samurai: Don't they make every rookie attend a ton of meetings to teach them about these things?


Considering the teams just invested millions in those guys, you'd think so. Yet even now not every team offers a free car service to pick its drunk starters up.
 
2012-06-07 11:46:44 AM
I think a week or 2 ago rookies met in LA with the union and league reps about this stuff. Weather the players listen or not is another story. Im suprised loose women werent on there.
 
2012-06-07 11:49:25 AM

spentmiles: Here's how the AFC East is going to play out this year:

Jets Pats 13-3
Bills Fins 9-7
Pats Bills 8-8
Dolphins Jest 3-13

Believe it.


FTFY.

The Jets couldn't beat the Dolphins even half the time when Sparano and Henne were around. Hard to see them doing better against Philbin and Moore.
 
2012-06-07 11:49:37 AM

macadamnut: Also, fark you subby. The fish are going 10-6 this year. Book it.


10-6 at what? The steering wheel?

/Go Bills
 
2012-06-07 11:56:15 AM

spentmiles: Here's how the AFC East is going to play out this year:

Jets 13-3
Bills 9-7
Pats 8-8
Dolphins 3-13

Believe it.


Pats don't make the playoffs? I like you. You can come over to my house and fark my sister.

/I liked you already
 
2012-06-07 12:01:31 PM
f them know how to read, write, and publish articles, I bet most of them would put 1/2 page articles on multiple pages, too, subbyface.
 
2012-06-07 12:02:57 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: The Jets couldn't beat the Dolphins even half the time when Sparano and Henne were around. Hard to see them doing better against Philbin and Moore.


Philbin can thank Aaron Rodgers for his first and only shot at a head coaching gig. And when Matt Moore is your team's MVP, you know your team sucks. The Jets defense is going to shove lollipops up his ass. Why would they do that? No one knows. And that's what scares us all the most.
 
2012-06-07 12:04:24 PM

grinding_journalist: spentmiles: Here's how the AFC East is going to play out this year:

Jets 13-3
Bills 9-7
Pats 8-8
Dolphins 3-13

Believe it.

Pats don't make the playoffs? I like you. You can come over to my house and fark my sister.

/I liked you already


Just for fun, I tried to play out in my mind just how the Pats would end up 8-8 and miss the playoffs next year. But it mostly involves major injuries. Or plane crashes...which are also major injuries, I suppose.
 
2012-06-07 12:25:00 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Just for fun, I tried to play out in my mind just how the Pats would end up 8-8 and miss the playoffs next year. But it mostly involves major injuries. Or plane crashes...which are also major injuries, I suppose.


I guess the only way I could see it happening (without the injuries, of course) would be if the defense is just as statistically craptastic as it was last season but they forget the "don't break" part of bend but don't break, the kids on the OLine aren't ready to step up and none of the running backs prove to be ready for prime time. If all those happen they could have a tough go of it, I guess.

/Not too worried
//Phins will be in the basement another year
///Bills will be "fighting for a Wild Card in Week 15" good
////Jets will be better than people expect
 
2012-06-07 12:43:19 PM

thecpt: All five of those are pretty simple, but come to think about it it's a good article.


It's a well-intended article by a guy I wouldn't second-guess when he's in his own pond. But agents aren't necessarily smart outside their comfort zone, and this guy strikes me as someone who should stick to negotiating contracts.

1. Drinking then driving It's not a "mistake"; he even said the reason in TFA -- a lot of players are entitled by local law enforcement. Then they move to a big city where they're nobody and they're shocked, shocked that they can be arrested for DUI. I mean, let a kid steal from the cookie jar 10 times in plain view and then punish him the 11th time and of course he's gonna be confused.

2. Buying a house too soon How about STFU on real estate advice and just skip to #3.

3. Will not set and adhere to a strict budget Finally, decent advice, if too late to make a difference. Most players should set up an arrangement with a trusted financial adviser to have all their earnings go into a trust and be given a weekly allowance. They don't get that football isn't something you can do for 40 years. They know, but they don't know the financial implications -- that their peak earning years are NOW, and on average only a few years. Unfortunately it's hard to find someone you can trust that much, and even then most young athletes are entitled to the point where they'd fire an adviser who acts in their best interest.

4. Will eat too much bad/fast food Again, entitlement. Anyone who's trustworthy AND acts in the player's best interests is likely to get fired. If a kid isn't forced to grow up, they don't.

5. Won't do enough to manage their body Not sure why this would be on the rookies. Any coach that doesn't listen to the damn trainer should be fired; that's incompetent mismanagement of multi-million-dollar assets.
 
2012-06-07 12:45:00 PM

Pontious Pilates: macadamnut: Also, fark you subby. The fish are going 10-6 this year. Book it.

10-6 at what? The steering wheel?

/Go Bills



Go where? Saskatoon?
 
2012-06-07 12:48:54 PM
Nothing on dodging the gold diggers? I thought that would be #1 on the list.
Perhaps it's against this joker's religion to tell them to wear a condom.
 
2012-06-07 12:49:29 PM
6. Will not use birth control.
 
2012-06-07 12:56:02 PM

dragonchild: But agents aren't necessarily smart outside their comfort zone, and this guy strikes me as someone who should stick to negotiating contracts.


It's always cute when a theorist involves himself with empirical matters.
 
2012-06-07 01:00:21 PM

varmitydog: Nothing on dodging the gold diggers? I thought that would be #1 on the list.


Kind of a non-factor when they can't even manage money as a bachelor. If they're gonna go bankrupt either way, why not get laid.

But yeah, you have a point. Get 'em out of the frying pan and they've still got the fire to worry about.
 
2012-06-07 01:06:40 PM

macadamnut: Pontious Pilates: macadamnut: Also, fark you subby. The fish are going 10-6 this year. Book it.

10-6 at what? The steering wheel?

/Go Bills


Go where? Saskatoon?


Saskatoon, Banff, Yellowknife, Moosejaw, it matters not. Once Mario Williams, Mark Anderson & Co. are through with them, Brady, Sanchize and [Insert Name Here] won't know where they are or what hit them anyway.
 
2012-06-07 01:06:44 PM

macadamnut: [i512.photobucket.com image 249x78]

Somebody wants an upgrade.


I have that boner as "
spentmiles
(favorite: North Korea Troll)
"
from the thread where he was claiming that North Korea was an Island. I have to hand it to him though, he has really uped his troll game in the past couple months. Practice makes perfect I guess.
 
2012-06-07 01:16:33 PM
Well, of course most rookies won't make the error of playing for the Dolphins. They're 1 of 32 teams, subby.
 
2012-06-07 01:16:50 PM

spentmiles: It's always cute when a theorist involves himself with empirical matters.


Theorists serve a purpose, if they study the details in earnest. A lot of changes can only be first visualized in a thought experiment that isn't tainted by special interests. What most people lack is an inability to visualize a problem from the POV of the person experiencing it, which leads to useless advice at best. For example, you're free to brainstorm ways to get poor people to eat healthier, but without considering their circumstances (like the cost and availability of healthy foods) you're wasting time. On the other hand, the USDA is neck-deep in experience in food policy, but you're not going to get productive advice from an agency that wouldn't interrupt giving Big Agri a beej to sneeze. Any fix is gonna have to start from the theoretical side.

This joker's solution to rookies not sticking to budgets is. . . having them stick to budgets. Wow, he's got it all figured out. I can't wait to hear how he plans to fix our government.
 
2012-06-07 01:23:40 PM
With as easy a schedule as they have, if the Pats aren't the 1 seed they're a disappointment.

/well, not for me
//Ravens fan

AFC Playoffs no particular order:
Division winners:
Pats
Steelers (god that hurts like an Achilles tear. Easier schedule than the ravens)
Chargers/Broncos
Texans

Wild cards:
Broncos/Chargers
Ravens/Bengals/Bills

AFC North may not send two for the first time in 4 years. Playing the decent AFC West and unpredictable but solid NFC East...
 
2012-06-07 01:25:09 PM

dragonchild: spentmiles: It's always cute when a theorist involves himself with empirical matters.

Theorists serve a purpose, if they study the details in earnest. A lot of changes can only be first visualized in a thought experiment that isn't tainted by special interests. What most people lack is an inability to visualize a problem from the POV of the person experiencing it, which leads to useless advice at best. For example, you're free to brainstorm ways to get poor people to eat healthier, but without considering their circumstances (like the cost and availability of healthy foods) you're wasting time. On the other hand, the USDA is neck-deep in experience in food policy, but you're not going to get productive advice from an agency that wouldn't interrupt giving Big Agri a beej to sneeze. Any fix is gonna have to start from the theoretical side.

This joker's solution to rookies not sticking to budgets is. . . having them stick to budgets. Wow, he's got it all figured out. I can't wait to hear how he plans to fix our government.


It's always cute when a pedant involves himself with Internet threads.
 
2012-06-07 01:31:55 PM

dragonchild: 5. Won't do enough to manage their body Not sure why this would be on the rookies. Any coach that doesn't listen to the damn trainer should be fired; that's incompetent mismanagement of multi-million-dollar assets.


It is very common for athletes, espcicially football players, to try to hide injuries. If you are hurt, you can't play; if you can't play, you'll get cut.

A lot of players may have a tight hamstring - no big deal. But they are worried that if they go to the trainer, he'll tell the coach that he needs to sit for 2 days. 2 days of training camp can be the difference between making the team and being cut, so the player doesn't go to the trainer. However, he doesn't do anything about the hamstring either, so 2 days later he pulls it and misses a week and gets cut. The agent's advice is to take control of your body (the player's biggest asset) - even if it means hiring a trainer that reports to you instead of the team, or at least get another player to help make sure you do things like cool down and stretch. Pretty solid advice.
 
2012-06-07 01:38:15 PM

Rapmaster2000: 6. Will not use birth control.


www.televisioninternet.com

Not just exclusive to rookies.
 
2012-06-07 01:41:50 PM
What a fantastic list.

1) Don't be retarded
2) Don't be retarded
3) Don't be retarded
4) Be healthy
5) Be healthy
 
2012-06-07 01:45:34 PM
Missing: Not wearing a condom when banging sports groupies.

Want to eat through your fortune fast? Have 5 kids with 4 mothers.
 
2012-06-07 01:57:24 PM

ole prophet: Missing: Not wearing a condom when banging sports groupies.

Want to eat through your fortune fast? Have 5 kids with 4 mothers.


Corollary: She only loves your money.
 
2012-06-07 02:16:32 PM

Cucumber_Breath: macadamnut: [i512.photobucket.com image 249x78]

Somebody wants an upgrade.

I have that boner as "
spentmiles
(favorite: North Korea Troll)"
from the thread where he was claiming that North Korea was an Island. I have to hand it to him though, he has really uped his troll game in the past couple months. Practice makes perfect I guess.


I have him in fushia as "Quality dog murder troll". I don't remember what thread it was, but he basically described(in graphic detail) torturing dogs. It got Farkers in quite a tizzy. I agree that he's getting better.

Troll on, Spentmiles!
 
2012-06-07 02:56:30 PM

bacongood: The agent's advice is to take control of your body (the player's biggest asset) - even if it means hiring a trainer that reports to you instead of the team, or at least get another player to help make sure you do things like cool down and stretch. Pretty solid advice.


Good point, but I maintain the root cause is conflict of interest that turned into culture (and now is "it's okay because it's tradition"). I get your point but marginal players trying to compensate for lack of talent with grit is nothing new; it doesn't take a head coach to figure this out so a head coach that can't understand this crap shouldn't be coaching. As I said, they're mismanaging assets at that point and this can only be enforced from the top down. A player could hire a dozen trainers but when he's afraid of getting cut he's going to ignore them all. And what's he gonna do if a trainer tells him he's on the verge of crippling himself? Hand the coach a note from his personal trainer?

Telling a rookie to be accountable for preventing his own injuries when he's paid to play through pain is an unrealistic model. And it's not like this barrier of derp is impossible to overcome; NBA rosters are even more brutal yet Phoenix has found a way to promote player health to the point where it's a value-add during contract negotiations. Problem is that the NFL is very much a copycat league and coaches that treat players like tissue have had a run of success, so we've got a bit of a vicious cycle in place.
 
2012-06-07 03:15:21 PM

dragonchild: bacongood: The agent's advice is to take control of your body (the player's biggest asset) - even if it means hiring a trainer that reports to you instead of the team, or at least get another player to help make sure you do things like cool down and stretch. Pretty solid advice.

Good point, but I maintain the root cause is conflict of interest that turned into culture (and now is "it's okay because it's tradition"). I get your point but marginal players trying to compensate for lack of talent with grit is nothing new; it doesn't take a head coach to figure this out so a head coach that can't understand this crap shouldn't be coaching. As I said, they're mismanaging assets at that point and this can only be enforced from the top down. A player could hire a dozen trainers but when he's afraid of getting cut he's going to ignore them all. And what's he gonna do if a trainer tells him he's on the verge of crippling himself? Hand the coach a note from his personal trainer?


If the team is mismanaging assets, the player can't do much about it. The agent's advice is to the player - not the team. And I am sure if the personal trainer says there is an issue, the team's trainer will probably find the same one.

And frankly, a dedicated personal trainer can probably do a lot more preventive work than a team trainer responsible for 85+ guys. I would see huge value in a young player hiring a trainer for a couple months before/during training camp (or maybe pooling one with a couple other young players). You have to remember, most of these guys are not guaranteed anything.
 
2012-06-07 03:17:05 PM

Quasar: What a fantastic list.

1) Don't be retarded
2) Don't be retarded
3) Don't be retarded
4) Be healthy
5) Be healthy


Look around, how many unhealthy people do you see doing retarded things every day?

Frankly, we all should probably post "Don't be retarded" on our bathroom mirror as a daily reminder.
 
2012-06-07 03:55:01 PM
Forming a posse strangely absent.
 
2012-06-07 03:59:03 PM

spentmiles: Here's how the AFC East is going to play out this year:

Jets 13-3
Bills 9-7
Pats 8-8
Dolphins 3-13

Believe it.


You sir, are insane.
 
2012-06-07 03:59:05 PM
"Every athlete is required to take a course entitled 'Please Don't Beat Up Your Girlfriend In Public'. We also have an 8 week seminar called 'How To Tell If It's Food'"
 
2012-06-07 04:01:27 PM
Oh, and no NFL player should own a house, their jobs are just too tenuous. Unless you're a marquee player that will never leave your city, like Peyton Manning.
 
2012-06-07 04:34:12 PM

bacongood: If the team is mismanaging assets, the player can't do much about it. The agent's advice is to the player - not the team. And I am sure if the personal trainer says there is an issue, the team's trainer will probably find the same one. And frankly, a dedicated personal trainer can probably do a lot more preventive work than a team trainer responsible for 85+ guys.


Ah, that makes sense. Better for a rookie to mitigate the derp culture than change it. Not like an egomaniacal head coach is gonna listen to a rookie anyway.
 
2012-06-07 08:27:28 PM
6) Purple Drank
 
2012-06-08 09:38:58 AM

Deneb81: With as easy a schedule as they have, if the Pats aren't the 1 seed they're a disappointment.

/well, not for me
//Ravens fan

AFC Playoffs no particular order:
Division winners:
Pats
Steelers (god that hurts like an Achilles tear. Easier schedule than the ravens)
Chargers/Broncos
Texans

Wild cards:
Broncos/Chargers
Ravens/Bengals/Bills

AFC North may not send two for the first time in 4 years. Playing the decent AFC West and unpredictable but solid NFC East...


If it makes you feel any better, remember Pitt is dealing with a lot of unknowns this year - most notably a new OC (who has something of a reputation for clashing with players), and a new playbook that is apparently pretty complex (and, according to the QB, about 90% different than the old one). Then there's the possibility of two rookie O-linemen starting, plus the loss of several veterans in the offseason (many of whom weren't playing much anyway, but you can't discount locker room presence and all that).

/Personally, I'm optimistic about Haley and the draft class, but I also realize transition can be difficult.
//plus I know better than to count the Ravens out of anything, ever, and the Bengals are looking pretty good too. AFCN's gonna be tough this year.
///I have faith in my team as always, but playing devil's advocate sometimes doesn't hurt ;)

Harv72b: justneal: HEY! we are the best half a season team in the league

The half that runs February through September?


Harv!!! :D How ya been?

Quasar: What a fantastic list.

1) Don't be retarded
2) Don't be retarded
3) Don't be retarded
4) Be healthy
5) Be healthy


Haha, that about sums it up I think. :)

/'sup Quasar? Good to see you around. :)
 
2012-06-09 08:32:31 PM

Cucumber_Breath: macadamnut: [i512.photobucket.com image 249x78]

Somebody wants an upgrade.

I have that boner as "
spentmiles
(favorite: North Korea Troll)"
from the thread where he was claiming that North Korea was an Island. I have to hand it to him though, he has really uped his troll game in the past couple months. Practice makes perfect I guess.


It sounds more like you found out about him during one particular thread, figured he was a troll and therefore unworthy of your respect. This guy has been entertaining us for YEARS.
 
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