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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-07 06:34:11 AM  
"There are no winners today," Essex County District Attorney Jonathan Blodgett said in a statement.

Lie. Mr. Blodgett is the winner. He played up the publicity to turn a routine case into a media event with his office as the star.
 
2012-06-07 06:44:18 AM  
1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-07 06:51:02 AM  
keylock71

A year is quite a bit more than people who are more culpable get. On Monday a man in the Berkshires got 30 days for killing his girlfriend while driving 100 in a 35 zone. That's the usual sentencing range. Probation if you're sympathetic, up to a few months if you're not.

I am also not at all convinced that texting caused the crash. The prosecutor played up the over 100 texts in a day part, which is not an unusual amount for a teen to send in a day while not driving. The evidence doesn't put the driver's eyes (or mind) on the cell phone in the moments before the crash beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
2012-06-07 06:51:36 AM  

keylock71: 1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.


Well, it was unintentional manslaughter. One year in prison and fifteen years without a license may be light in the eyes of justice, but this kid will go through life with this on his conscience (if he has one). Violent offenders do not care about the suffering of others, but if he is a normal healthy kid, he will be farked up for life.
 
2012-06-07 06:54:05 AM  
This one potential distraction is clearly so much more criminal than the dozen other distractions and acts of negligence that cause vehicular deaths every single day.
 
2012-06-07 07:06:08 AM  

ZAZ: I am also not at all convinced that texting caused the crash.


Didn't they show there were texts sent from his phone right around the time of the accident?

Still seems light to me.

cman: keylock71: 1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.

Well, it was unintentional manslaughter. One year in prison and fifteen years without a license may be light in the eyes of justice, but this kid will go through life with this on his conscience (if he has one). Violent offenders do not care about the suffering of others, but if he is a normal healthy kid, he will be farked up for life.


Possibly... He took the life of someone else through his actions. He obviously wasn't intending to kill anyone, but he did and it was because of his own negligence and stupidity. He should be farked up for the rest of his life.


I'm on the road a lot during the week, and I see this type of shiat all the time on 95, 195, 24, etc. People swerving in and out of lanes, rapidly decreasing or accelerating and just generally driving like assholes because they have to play with their toys while they drive. It's either ignorance or selfishness, as far as I can tell.

I don't feel bad for this kid, at all. He was responsible for the death of another human being because he had to use his phone while driving... I guess he only had his license for 5 months at the time of the accident, too. All the more reason he shouldn't have been texting at all behind the wheel.

Hey, he broke the law and it resulted in someone's death. A family lost a member because of this kid's selfishness and stupidity and now he'll pay the price for it, but he'll still have his life, unlike the gentleman he killed.
 
2012-06-07 07:16:03 AM  

cman: keylock71: 1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.

Well, it was unintentional manslaughter. One year in prison and fifteen years without a license may be light in the eyes of justice, but this kid will go through life with this on his conscience (if he has one). Violent offenders do not care about the suffering of others, but if he is a normal healthy kid, he will be farked up for life.


I'm still not convinced the kid was even texting. It does sound like the prosecution trumped the hell out of this case.
 
2012-06-07 07:34:29 AM  

vartian:
I'm still not convinced the kid was even texting. It does sound like the prosecution trumped the hell out of this case.


Today is the first I've personally heard of this case, so you probably know more about than I do. But I did find this about the evidence in a different news story:

Prosecutors say Deveau admitted sending and receiving nearly 200 texts that day, but ADA Logan intimated the scared teen may have deleted texts after the accident.

"He states his last message was at 2:33 p.m. and he didn't get another one until 3:10 p.m., but then the records came and show there are two missing."


Did the prosecution actually prove this?
 
2012-06-07 08:25:37 AM  
As a motorcyclist I'm riding at about the same height as an SUV driver (roughly the height of a average-sized man standing), but have more vision. So all I see on the roads are morons changing lanes while trying to Facebok or text. Part of my constant scanning of the road is identifying these people and giving them a wide berth. Usually I clock them by by checking out their facial expression in their own side mirrors as I approach. 9 of 10 times I'm right as I pull alongside them and actually see the phone. I guess the 1 time of ten when I'm wrong was just some guy staring at his dick.

No pity for these people. They have no concept of personal boundaries, and they drive as though the road was designed solely for them. I have a license )a specialized one at that) and pay taxes too, asshole. And that means I have a right not to be killed because OMG STFU.

Some of you will say, "Quit vaginating and drive a car." That's fine, until one of these people with phone-grafts runs you into a ditch. Maybe those airbags will save you. Maybe you'll just break your neck.

/lifelong commuter wearing full gear
 
2012-06-07 08:31:43 AM  

dickfreckle: Part of my constant scanning of the road is identifying these people and giving them a wide berth. Usually I clock them by by checking out their facial expression in their own side mirrors as I approach. 9 of 10 times I'm right as I pull alongside them and actually see the phone.


Yep... I drive a van, so I can see down into most vehicles as I pass. Yeah, most of the time when someone is swerving in and out of their lane, turning without a signal, driving fast than slowing down (and visa versa), and I pass them, they're either on the phone, texting or doing something other than paying attention the farking road.
 
2012-06-07 08:33:55 AM  

ZAZ: keylock71

A year is quite a bit more than people who are more culpable get. On Monday a man in the Berkshires got 30 days for killing his girlfriend while driving 100 in a 35 zone. That's the usual sentencing range. Probation if you're sympathetic, up to a few months if you're not.

I am also not at all convinced that texting caused the crash. The prosecutor played up the over 100 texts in a day part, which is not an unusual amount for a teen to send in a day while not driving. The evidence doesn't put the driver's eyes (or mind) on the cell phone in the moments before the crash beyond a reasonable doubt.


Good points. I reserve the vitriol in the my above post for people I actually observe doing it. I still think that the kid deserves a trial free from bias.
 
2012-06-07 08:38:12 AM  

keylock71: dickfreckle: Part of my constant scanning of the road is identifying these people and giving them a wide berth. Usually I clock them by by checking out their facial expression in their own side mirrors as I approach. 9 of 10 times I'm right as I pull alongside them and actually see the phone.

Yep... I drive a van, so I can see down into most vehicles as I pass. Yeah, most of the time when someone is swerving in and out of their lane, turning without a signal, driving fast than slowing down (and visa versa), and I pass them, they're either on the phone, texting or doing something other than paying attention the farking road.


A van sounds about right. At rest my 5'11 frame barely gets feet on the ground. Whenever I ride friends' Harleys and other cruisers I feel like I can't see sh*t. At any rate, don't you hate driving a sedan where your ass is like six inches from the ground? I feel like I'm not in control of my surroundings.

Meh, I'm rambling.
 
2012-06-07 08:46:29 AM  
Massachusetts teen convicted of homicide in texting-while-driving continues to text during sentencing

I thought sentencing went out with grammar and spelling when texting came in.

Now it's just acronyms, smilies and symbols. It's like trying to real a Perl script.
 
2012-06-07 09:04:10 AM  
Funny thing is cars stay in their lanes if the road if both are made properly. Unfortunately you can't subpoena Albert Speer or Ferdinand Porsche as expert witnesses.
 
2012-06-07 09:20:24 AM  

dickfreckle: A van sounds about right. At rest my 5'11 frame barely gets feet on the ground. Whenever I ride friends' Harleys and other cruisers I feel like I can't see sh*t. At any rate, don't you hate driving a sedan where your ass is like six inches from the ground? I feel like I'm not in control of my surroundings.

Meh, I'm rambling.


I hate borrowing my sister's Toyota Yaris... That thing gets no respect on the road and I feel like I'm sitting at the kid's table. Great on gas and good handling, though.

I prefer the van, though... Best vehicle I've ever owned. 2003 GMC Savana cargo van. Thing is a work horse.
 
2012-06-07 09:27:13 AM  
With over 30 years of motorcycle experience and a past that includes professional truck and taxi driving I think it is unfair to single out cell phone users as bad drivers. Sure they are some of the most obviously dangerous drivers but having witnessed women putting on pantyhose, men masturbating and more than one person playing a musical instrument while driving it is unfair to blame cell phones.

People have always been idiots when it comes to recognizing just how dangerous driving really is.
 
2012-06-07 09:38:50 AM  

TwoHead: With over 30 years of motorcycle experience and a past that includes professional truck and taxi driving I think it is unfair to single out cell phone users as bad drivers. Sure they are some of the most obviously dangerous drivers but having witnessed women putting on pantyhose, men masturbating and more than one person playing a musical instrument while driving it is unfair to blame cell phones.

People have always been idiots when it comes to recognizing just how dangerous driving really is.


Absolutely true.

In MA, it's a "Distracted Driver" law, so presumably, someone dressing themselves while driving, would be charged or ticketed the same as some numbskull texting away while driving.

The law past in 2010 basically adds phone use, texting ect. as violations to the existing "Safe Driving Law", I believe.

But, yeah... there are a lot of distractions for drivers. No doubt.
 
2012-06-07 09:50:16 AM  

keylock71: In MA, it's a "Distracted Driver" law, so presumably, someone dressing themselves while driving, would could be charged or ticketed the same as some numbskull texting away while driving.

 
2012-06-07 09:58:08 AM  
I read that sincerely hoping that there was some reference to him actually texting during sentencing and that the second part of this headline wasn't a complete fabrication by subby. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
2012-06-07 09:58:09 AM  

keylock71: cargo van


does it say Free Candy on the side?
 
2012-06-07 10:00:08 AM  

ManateeGag: keylock71: cargo van

does it say Free Candy on the side?


My wife calls it the "GMC Kidnapper"...

No "Free Candy" sticker, but I am in the market for a "Bark if you love Jesus" or "Gas, grass or ass. No one rides for free" sticker.
 
2012-06-07 10:15:23 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I read that sincerely hoping that there was some reference to him actually texting during sentencing and that the second part of this headline wasn't a complete fabrication by subby. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case.


I believe it was a reference to the picture, but I may not see the world through subby's childlike eyes
either.
 
2012-06-07 10:16:32 AM  
Verdict coming out now.
 
2012-06-07 10:19:57 AM  
ok poop is getting pushed in
 
2012-06-07 10:22:34 AM  
38 states ban texting while driving, while 31 states ban texting by novice drivers.

I'm confused, how many states did we add last night?
 
2012-06-07 10:23:34 AM  

kronicfeld: This one potential distraction is clearly so much more criminal than the dozen other distractions and acts of negligence that cause vehicular deaths every single day.


Pretty much this. I get torn on this one. I run almost every day on the shoulder of a busy highway. I am constantly aware of my surroundings because I have to be. All I ask as a pedestrian is that drivers do the same. You are in 1500 pounds of metal, glass, and plastic... Your one objective is to operate the vehicle. If you can manage to do other things concurrently while maintaining focus, go for it. But I find that far too many people cannot.

As an addendum, I'd like to see FAILURE TO SIGNAL enforced as stringently as the cell phone things.
 
2012-06-07 10:24:03 AM  
keylock71

1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.

yep...I have many stories now and just got a new one late last week...were on the interstate going about 79 and this guy starts drifting into my lane, so I give a honk and pass him...he is texting so I punch it a bit to get passed him quickly...look back in the rear view and he drifted into the other lane.

/3 lanes...he was in the center
//f*cking pay attention to driving, f*ckface
 
2012-06-07 10:24:18 AM  

cman: keylock71: 1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.

Well, it was unintentional manslaughter. One year in prison and fifteen years without a license may be light in the eyes of justice, but this kid will go through life with this on his conscience (if he has one). Violent offenders do not care about the suffering of others, but if he is a normal healthy kid, he will be farked up for life.


Maybe he should do something to assuage that awful guilt, like text constantly how remorseful he is.
 
2012-06-07 10:25:12 AM  

kronicfeld: This one potential distraction is clearly so much more criminal than the dozen other distractions and acts of negligence that cause vehicular deaths every single day.


I think so too.

But seriously, why don't people call each other instead of typing? Does it cost less to type?
 
2012-06-07 10:25:59 AM  
In the photo, it looks exactly like what he was doing.

i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2012-06-07 10:26:13 AM  
PSA: When driving a car - DRIVE THE CAR.
 
2012-06-07 10:26:32 AM  
Got hit by a texting teen back in October. No physical harm but the car was farked up. Almost got hit again this AM by a texting suit douche. He crossed two lanes in the last moment to avoid collision. What is so important that it cannot wait?
 
2012-06-07 10:27:28 AM  
If our aim as a country is safer roads then the punishment for texting while driving should be the same as drunk driving as this case proves both have the same potential result.
 
2012-06-07 10:27:53 AM  

vartian: cman: keylock71: 1 year in prison and 15 years suspended license sounds light to me... And I'll guarantee I'll still see some jackass playing with their phone and not staying in their lane on my way to work this morning.

Well, it was unintentional manslaughter. One year in prison and fifteen years without a license may be light in the eyes of justice, but this kid will go through life with this on his conscience (if he has one). Violent offenders do not care about the suffering of others, but if he is a normal healthy kid, he will be farked up for life.

I'm still not convinced the kid was even texting. It does sound like the prosecution trumped the hell out of this case.


The kid was the cause of a 55 year old person dying. He likely took away 25+ years of life from another human being. Kids will grow up not knowing their grandfather, the grandfather will not see his grandkids grow up. Another woman cannot walk. In punishment, this kid will spend 1 year behind bars.

Now, what were you saying again about "trumped the hell out of this case?"
 
2012-06-07 10:28:22 AM  

dickfreckle: As a motorcyclist I'm riding at about the same height as an SUV driver (roughly the height of a average-sized man standing), but have more vision. So all I see on the roads are morons changing lanes while trying to Facebok or text. Part of my constant scanning of the road is identifying these people and giving them a wide berth. Usually I clock them by by checking out their facial expression in their own side mirrors as I approach. 9 of 10 times I'm right as I pull alongside them and actually see the phone. I guess the 1 time of ten when I'm wrong was just some guy staring at his dick.

No pity for these people. They have no concept of personal boundaries, and they drive as though the road was designed solely for them. I have a license )a specialized one at that) and pay taxes too, asshole. And that means I have a right not to be killed because OMG STFU.

Some of you will say, "Quit vaginating and drive a car." That's fine, until one of these people with phone-grafts runs you into a ditch. Maybe those airbags will save you. Maybe you'll just break your neck.

/lifelong commuter wearing full gear


after burying a family member 2 weeks ago bc of a texter/driver/wrecker/killer I couldn't have said it better. well-played.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-07 10:29:20 AM  
why don't people call each other instead of typing

Asynchronous vs. synchronous communication? Yesterday I sent an email to the guy in the next cubicle. I could wait for a response until he had a break from the problem he was working on.
 
2012-06-07 10:30:50 AM  
Blah, blah, blah. You drove your car in a reckless manner; someone died. You should go to prison for more than five years without parole. That's how I see it; that's how I would rule.
 
2012-06-07 10:31:47 AM  
s18.postimage.org
 
2012-06-07 10:31:53 AM  
GOIN 2 JAIL!!1! LOL!
 
2012-06-07 10:32:22 AM  

voodoo_curse: 38 states ban texting while driving, while 31 states ban texting by novice drivers.

I'm confused, how many states did we add last night?


frickin' frackin' Obama up to his tricks again. he didn't text me about this either.
 
2012-06-07 10:32:37 AM  
Why isnt this kid getting 20 years in the slammer?

He farking killed someone. Ah, wait. Throw a pothead in jail instead. Makes perfect sense.
 
2012-06-07 10:32:44 AM  

busy chillin': yep...I have many stories now and just got a new one late last week...were on the interstate going about 79 and this guy starts drifting into my lane, so I give a honk and pass him...he is texting so I punch it a bit to get passed him quickly...look back in the rear view and he drifted into the other lane.


It's ridiculous... How can people be so oblivious while driving a vehicle. Boggles my mind.


funk_soul_bubby: As an addendum, I'd like to see FAILURE TO SIGNAL enforced as stringently as the cell phone things.


Oh yeah... How farking hard is it to use your blinkers? Takes a millisecond to move the handle up or down.
 
2012-06-07 10:34:16 AM  
Idk 1 yr or smthing. Sux cnt drive 4 15yrs tho. FML
 
2012-06-07 10:34:28 AM  

ZAZ: keylock71

A year is quite a bit more than people who are more culpable get. On Monday a man in the Berkshires got 30 days for killing his girlfriend while driving 100 in a 35 zone. That's the usual sentencing range. Probation if you're sympathetic, up to a few months if you're not.

I am also not at all convinced that texting caused the crash. The prosecutor played up the over 100 texts in a day part, which is not an unusual amount for a teen to send in a day while not driving. The evidence doesn't put the driver's eyes (or mind) on the cell phone in the moments before the crash beyond a reasonable doubt.


Besides, a full minute had gone by between the last text and the crash.

In any case, they are charging him with "vehicular homicide"! Doesn't that sound a bit extreme? Doesn't homicide imply that you did it on purpose? I think manslaughter would have been more fitting, if he was really responsible at all...

This sets a really bad precedent. Clearly we need harsher penalties for texting while driving, but this is going too far.
 
2012-06-07 10:36:15 AM  
Wait, so was he texting during sentencing or not? I ain't watching any videos at work.

And I seriously approve of this. If anything, he should have gotten more hard time. Hell, it should be a crime to use a cell phone AT ALL during driving. Everyone who does it drives like a moron. When I see someone driving like a moron, and I pass them and can see what they're doing, 90% of the time they are using their phone. Only exception should be for certain professions (dispatch, taxi driver), and should require a permit and a hands-free setup. But that would cause too much wharrgarbl, even though the effects of using a phone while driving are obvious and well-documented.
 
2012-06-07 10:36:24 AM  
GOOD. Send a message. I'm far too often endangered by self-centered jackholes on the road.
 
2012-06-07 10:37:52 AM  

busy chillin': yep...I have many stories now and just got a new one late last week...were on the interstate going about 79 and this guy starts drifting into my lane, so I give a honk and pass him...he is texting so I punch it a bit to get passed him quickly...look back in the rear view and he drifted into the other lane.


That's the thing that gets me... I've seen this as well where they get horns blasted at them or self-realize that they're five feet off the road, and then right back to the f*cking texting. How can that not shake you out of your reverie? I saw one extreme case where the passenger was obviously yelling at the driver to pay attention and yet there he was, weaving like he was braiding the white lines. He had already run me off the road as well as two other people. God I would have choked that motherf*cker to death if I could.

I was a bit puzzled to read about this case yesterday that the defense was arguing that "the accident may not have caused the other driver's death." I wonder if it was a misprint that should have been "texting may not have caused the accident."
 
2012-06-07 10:38:04 AM  
I had a woman behind me texting while driving (and tailgateing, of course). She had to slam on her brakes and turn her steering wheel TWICE to keep from rear-ending me at two different traffic lights. And of course she kept right on texting. So, yeah, I'm fine with jail time for killing someone.
 
2012-06-07 10:38:10 AM  

TwoHead: With over 30 years of motorcycle experience and a past that includes professional truck and taxi driving I think it is unfair to single out cell phone users as bad drivers. Sure they are some of the most obviously dangerous drivers but having witnessed women putting on pantyhose, men masturbating and more than one person playing a musical instrument while driving it is unfair to blame cell phones.

People have always been idiots when it comes to recognizing just how dangerous driving really is.


The only problem with your argument is that as a professional driver, you witnessed the stupidity that we all witness if we drive a lot in traffic. But these are comparatively isolated incidences. Everyday, I am continuously surrounded by dumbasses with a cellphones to their ears. One cannot get away from it. These drivers are just as impaired as if they are drunk. They are dangerous. And now we have fools texting while driving. I say, that if one gets caught doing this, the penalty needs to be just as severe as DUI.
 
2012-06-07 10:38:40 AM  

durbnpoisn: ZAZ: keylock71

A year is quite a bit more than people who are more culpable get. On Monday a man in the Berkshires got 30 days for killing his girlfriend while driving 100 in a 35 zone. That's the usual sentencing range. Probation if you're sympathetic, up to a few months if you're not.

I am also not at all convinced that texting caused the crash. The prosecutor played up the over 100 texts in a day part, which is not an unusual amount for a teen to send in a day while not driving. The evidence doesn't put the driver's eyes (or mind) on the cell phone in the moments before the crash beyond a reasonable doubt.

Besides, a full minute had gone by between the last text and the crash.

In any case, they are charging him with "vehicular homicide"! Doesn't that sound a bit extreme? Doesn't homicide imply that you did it on purpose? I think manslaughter would have been more fitting, if he was really responsible at all...

This sets a really bad precedent. Clearly we need harsher penalties for texting while driving, but this is going too far.


No it isn't going too far. Everyone knows the dangers of driving while texting. It's as bad as drunk driving and should be treated as such.
 
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