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2012-06-07 10:19:33 AM
Hmmmm... Does Batman = greenlight? This is like the 5th or 6th in 3 days...
 
2012-06-07 10:21:44 AM
Come on Calendar man!
 
2012-06-07 10:28:26 AM
We're pretty much already getting Killer Croc in Amazing Spider-Man.
 
2012-06-07 10:28:43 AM
The joker
 
2012-06-07 10:34:41 AM
Watch TAS.
 
2012-06-07 10:36:19 AM
I was hoping to see Professor Pyg on that list just for the Dollotrons.
 
2012-06-07 10:44:36 AM
Or how about Condiment King
 
2012-06-07 10:48:52 AM
www.themarysue.com
 
2012-06-07 10:55:04 AM
Well, subby, if you're going to biatch and moan about slideshows, don't farking submit one.
 
2012-06-07 11:01:47 AM
Nice artwork. Riddler DOES need redone as a saw-type villain.
 
2012-06-07 11:07:27 AM
Killer moth for the win!

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-06-07 11:26:12 AM
I'll everyone else time: 15 standard Batman villains that haven't been in the Nolan movies.

Surprised the Terrible Trio wasn't on there.
 
2012-06-07 11:30:07 AM
Harley Quinn.

naow.

make with the boobs already.
 
2012-06-07 11:32:49 AM
If either Elizabeth Banks or Kristen Bell can pull off Harley Quinn, that would get my vote.
 
2012-06-07 11:41:24 AM

bark_atda_moon: If either Elizabeth Banks or Kristen Bell can pull off Harley Quinn, that would get my vote.


I vote Kristen Bell. She's, like, baby sloth adorable which makes the bat-sh*t craziness all the more worth while.
 
2012-06-07 11:44:29 AM
After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material and stick it on a cable channel that'll do it justice--HBO, Starz, Showtime--whatever.


Have him spend the first season battling away at mobsters (heck, tackle Long Halloween as a season-long story arc), and end it with one of the crooks disfiguring the wonderful city DA Harvey Dent. In the second year deal with the 'escalation' theme that's in the current films--a 'freak' dresses up like a Bat, the city's villains become 'freaks' as well (not the least of which being Two-Face. Maybe introduce the Joker at this point. Have the Joker be captured, reduce him to a supporting character, and follow his story separately as a B- or even C-plot each week as he twists his Arkham therapist Dr. Quinzel into Harley Quinn, end that year with her breaking him out of Arkham. Spend another year dancing around with the two of them, only for Joker to murder Harley without a second thought in order to escape Batman. Continue adapting as you like. I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event, that might be an interesting event to cap off an entire series with, providing you drop clues for it throughout the entire run of the show.
 
2012-06-07 11:45:34 AM
Triangle Man hates Batman. He hates a lot of people, actually. Triangle man's kind of a dick.
 
2012-06-07 11:57:16 AM
Ive always had a soft spot for the clock king. An otherwise normal guy with a superhuman sense for efficiency and timing. He goes toe to toe with batman a few times because he has timed his attacks down to the millisecond.
 
2012-06-07 11:57:32 AM

Gunny Highway: Watch TAS.

THIS. The Whole DCA is worth it.

/cues up "Off Balance/i>" mm, Talia
 
2012-06-07 12:16:20 PM
List fails for having a lame-looking Harley Quinn pic.
 
2012-06-07 12:47:53 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material and stick it on a cable channel that'll do it justice--HBO, Starz, Showtime--whatever.


Have him spend the first season battling away at mobsters (heck, tackle Long Halloween as a season-long story arc), and end it with one of the crooks disfiguring the wonderful city DA Harvey Dent. In the second year deal with the 'escalation' theme that's in the current films--a 'freak' dresses up like a Bat, the city's villains become 'freaks' as well (not the least of which being Two-Face. Maybe introduce the Joker at this point. Have the Joker be captured, reduce him to a supporting character, and follow his story separately as a B- or even C-plot each week as he twists his Arkham therapist Dr. Quinzel into Harley Quinn, end that year with her breaking him out of Arkham. Spend another year dancing around with the two of them, only for Joker to murder Harley without a second thought in order to escape Batman. Continue adapting as you like. I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event, that might be an interesting event to cap off an entire series with, providing you drop clues for it throughout the entire run of the show.


chakru.com
 
2012-06-07 01:07:34 PM

KatjaMouse: bark_atda_moon: If either Elizabeth Banks or Kristen Bell can pull off Harley Quinn, that would get my vote.

I vote Kristen Bell. She's, like, baby sloth adorable which makes the bat-sh*t craziness all the more worth while.


but in character, she should sound more like Arleen Sorkins voice work
 
2012-06-07 01:15:06 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material


Adam West Batman was based off of the comic source material. Remember Batman didn't start turning "dark" until the 80s.
 
2012-06-07 01:18:36 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2012-06-07 01:18:50 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: . I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event


What seriously? If the next story arc isn't better, I'm dropping that book.
 
2012-06-07 01:23:00 PM

degenerate-afro: NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material

Adam West Batman was based off of the comic source material. Remember Batman didn't start turning "dark" until the 80s.



You're right, of course. Most people either forget that or don't know it, so generally it's easier to just not mention that bit at all. I haven't even read a lot from the period tbh; I find it hard to get into having been raised on the 'darker' Batman.
 
2012-06-07 01:27:03 PM

SuperChuck: NeedlesslyCanadian: . I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event

What seriously? If the next story arc isn't better, I'm dropping that book.



Yep, I liked it. I'll admit, it's dragged on maybe an issue or two too long (might've been nice to see something else between the Court of Owls arc and the Night of the Owls event), but I've liked it for what it was. I'm hoping they remain a villain on some level even if they only show up every so often.

I do wish Detective Comics would pick up the pace a bit though. It's been what, 10 months now since the Joker face thing? Still waiting for some resolution on that.
 
2012-06-07 01:27:56 PM
I keep arguing for Firefly. Pyromania of epic proportions with erotic/religious overtones (genuinely loves/worships fire). But does anybody listen to me?
 
2012-06-07 01:55:29 PM
list fails withut:
Egghead, King Tut, The Siren, Phineos Phogg, Lily the Lilac, Shame, The Bookworm...
 
2012-06-07 02:13:33 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: SuperChuck: NeedlesslyCanadian: . I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event

What seriously? If the next story arc isn't better, I'm dropping that book.


Yep, I liked it. I'll admit, it's dragged on maybe an issue or two too long (might've been nice to see something else between the Court of Owls arc and the Night of the Owls event), but I've liked it for what it was. I'm hoping they remain a villain on some level even if they only show up every so often.

I do wish Detective Comics would pick up the pace a bit though. It's been what, 10 months now since the Joker face thing? Still waiting for some resolution on that.


Huh. I guess most of my problem with it had to do with continuity problems but I also didn't like some of the writing and the whole sequence in the maze was just awful.
 
2012-06-07 02:34:57 PM

SuperChuck: NeedlesslyCanadian: SuperChuck: NeedlesslyCanadian: . I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event

What seriously? If the next story arc isn't better, I'm dropping that book.


Yep, I liked it. I'll admit, it's dragged on maybe an issue or two too long (might've been nice to see something else between the Court of Owls arc and the Night of the Owls event), but I've liked it for what it was. I'm hoping they remain a villain on some level even if they only show up every so often.

I do wish Detective Comics would pick up the pace a bit though. It's been what, 10 months now since the Joker face thing? Still waiting for some resolution on that.

Huh. I guess most of my problem with it had to do with continuity problems but I also didn't like some of the writing and the whole sequence in the maze was just awful.



Continuity problems? Such as? I'm not trying to pick a bone with you here--I just hadn't really noticed any. Unless you mean something rather longer-term, which I tend to ignore since we still don't know all the changes that came out of Flashpoint.

There WAS one though that I thought was glaring and kind of annoying--that Bats, Nightwing and Robin were duking it out with Mr Freeze....on the same night as the Night of the Owls event, like half an hour after the last clock time we see in one of the other issues, and starting with Mr Freeze in Arkham in therapy like 2h after he'd appeared in the Red Hood issue. THAT bugged the shiat out of me.

But that aside...?
 
2012-06-07 02:40:48 PM
15 Batman villains that need a turn in the movies. Slideshow Man curiously missing

I first read that as "Sideshow Bob curiously missing," which, if true, would be a devastating oversight.

hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-07 02:41:30 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: There WAS one though that I thought was glaring and kind of annoying--that Bats, Nightwing and Robin were duking it out with Mr Freeze....on the same night as the Night of the Owls event, like half an hour after the last clock time we see in one of the other issues, and starting with Mr Freeze in Arkham in therapy like 2h after he'd appeared in the Red Hood issue. THAT bugged the shiat out of me.


Yeah it was that sort of stuff. The story going concurrent in Batman & Robin required that Batman be with Robin most of the time. But at the same time he was lost for days underneath Gotham. And while Batman was missing, how come nobody was looking for him? Or even seemed to notice he was gone (I only get Batman, B&R and Batgirl so if it came up in one of the other books I missed it). I'm OK with that if the stories at happening at different times but then Night of the Owls happens and suddenly everyone's on the same timeline. I don't mind if the books are connected and I don't mind if they're not. But you have to pick one.
 
2012-06-07 02:46:47 PM
FTFA - I know The Riddler has already been in a Batman movie. As a Canadian, I'm legally obligated to love Jim Carrey, but his slapstick take on the Riddler came off too much like the dated, campy 1960s Batman TV show.

Frank Gorshin would never have gone as overboard as Jim Carrey did as The Riddler.
 
2012-06-07 03:00:37 PM

degenerate-afro: Adam West Batman was based off of the comic source material. Remember Batman didn't start turning "dark" until the 80s.


1969, the first Neal Adams / Denny O'Niel collaboration. They worked together to wipe the memory of the TV show out of people's minds, and bring back the noir feel of the 40s.

the 1973 Detective run also had the amazing Manhunter backup stories which led to many awards and gave Walt Simonson one hell of a career.
 
2012-06-07 03:21:18 PM

SuperChuck: NeedlesslyCanadian: There WAS one though that I thought was glaring and kind of annoying--that Bats, Nightwing and Robin were duking it out with Mr Freeze....on the same night as the Night of the Owls event, like half an hour after the last clock time we see in one of the other issues, and starting with Mr Freeze in Arkham in therapy like 2h after he'd appeared in the Red Hood issue. THAT bugged the shiat out of me.

Yeah it was that sort of stuff. The story going concurrent in Batman & Robin required that Batman be with Robin most of the time. But at the same time he was lost for days underneath Gotham. And while Batman was missing, how come nobody was looking for him? Or even seemed to notice he was gone (I only get Batman, B&R and Batgirl so if it came up in one of the other books I missed it). I'm OK with that if the stories at happening at different times but then Night of the Owls happens and suddenly everyone's on the same timeline. I don't mind if the books are connected and I don't mind if they're not. But you have to pick one.


I guess I can understand that.

For my part I just figure that the issues aren't meant to be taken as happening concurrently (particularly since many issues end with a cliffhanger leading into the next issue). Maybe DC #1-whatever are happening on Monday, while Batman #1- are happening on Wednesday and B&R on Thursday, so things aligned for Night of the Owls on Saturday night.

Or something like that, anyway. Comic continuity is never great, especially during crossover events.
 
2012-06-07 03:50:43 PM

degenerate-afro: NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material

Adam West Batman was based off of the comic source material. Remember Batman didn't start turning "dark" until the 80s.


Batman used to be very very dark before then. He murdered without thought or regret. That whole 'I won'r kill' shiat is relatively recent.
 
2012-06-07 04:13:48 PM
Other than The Riddler and Harley Quinn this list is a waste.

A most interesting character is missing - Victor Zsasz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsasz
 
2012-06-07 04:41:58 PM
I'd absolutely LOVE to see Hush in a movie. And while I think Killer Croc and Man-Bat could be good, at heart I just know they'd end up gimmicky as hell and not be a respectable villian (A-la Batman & Robin's Bane). Same with Calender Man, cool concept but I don't think it'll translate well into a live-action movie.

Black Mask would work, but there's no way he'd work as the main villian for a movie. Maybe something more akin to a background player (seen occasionally) that tries to wrestle control of Gotham from Falcone while Batman has his hands full with someone else...?
 
2012-06-07 05:47:07 PM
anyone ever notice A: how many farking BRILLIANT people live/work in gotham, and B: how many of them are batshiat insane?


must be something in the water. seems like every other bat-villain is 'genius level IQ, etc etc'
 
2012-06-07 07:56:15 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

There just weren't enough C-listers in the article.
 
2012-06-07 08:36:29 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material and stick it on a cable channel that'll do it justice--HBO, Starz, Showtime--whatever.


SO how was it?
 
2012-06-07 08:42:07 PM
Yeah bad choice of words. You know what I meant ;)
 
2012-06-07 08:50:37 PM
Crazy Quilt!


/got nothing.
 
2012-06-07 09:20:15 PM
The list is missing Gentleman Ghost.

I would love to see David Tennant as the Riddler.
 
2012-06-07 10:43:53 PM
Why is the first instinct of these people, and many of you, to suggest that every Batman villain would somehow become better if they were remade as sadistic serial killers? Batman already has lots of sadistic serial killers which one could choose. The rest of them are fantastic as master criminals and crazy mobster-types.

For instance, a movie where the Riddler (master criminal) and the Penguin (crazy mobster-type) set-up a scheme to bankrupt the other gangs in Gotham City resulting in a directionless citywide turf war and Batman has to solve the caper before someone does something totally drastic (nuke, executing the city council, calling down every enforcer in the whole East Coast mafia). Lots of people shouting "where's my farking money!?", huge potential casualties, lots of low-lifes shooting each other, stop-gap bank robberies, brazen street crime, the whole panoply of human greed on display and a couple of genius weirdos traipsing through the whole thing. Great action movie and nobody has to buy the rights to remake SeVIIen.
 
2012-06-08 12:11:07 AM

Doc Batarang: Why is the first instinct of these people, and many of you, to suggest that every Batman villain would somehow become better if they were remade as sadistic serial killers? Batman already has lots of sadistic serial killers which one could choose. The rest of them are fantastic as master criminals and crazy mobster-types.

For instance, a movie where the Riddler (master criminal) and the Penguin (crazy mobster-type) set-up a scheme to bankrupt the other gangs in Gotham City resulting in a directionless citywide turf war and Batman has to solve the caper before someone does something totally drastic (nuke, executing the city council, calling down every enforcer in the whole East Coast mafia). Lots of people shouting "where's my farking money!?", huge potential casualties, lots of low-lifes shooting each other, stop-gap bank robberies, brazen street crime, the whole panoply of human greed on display and a couple of genius weirdos traipsing through the whole thing. Great action movie and nobody has to buy the rights to remake SeVIIen.


Apparently serial killers make things grim and gritty. And totally serious and for realz. The Tally Man, Zsasz, Calendar Man, and Refrigerator Stuffer Man all are magnificent.

BTW, would SeVen have been better if a guy in a cape was shouting "what's in the box" and then punching the killer in the gut, bellowing "I AM A MAN!" ?

Me, I prefer my villains to have higher goals than merely killing people.
 
2012-06-08 12:41:30 AM

mongolicious:

I would love to see David Tennant as the Riddler.


[in best Emperor Palpatine voice] "Yes...Yes! Can it be done?"

Will the producer supply Vader's reply?

Could be epic if Tennant got a (half)-decent script to work with!
 
2012-06-08 03:11:19 AM

NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material and stick it on a cable channel that'll do it justice--HBO, Starz, Showtime--whatever.


Have him spend the first season battling away at mobsters (heck, tackle Long Halloween as a season-long story arc), and end it with one of the crooks disfiguring the wonderful city DA Harvey Dent. In the second year deal with the 'escalation' theme that's in the current films--a 'freak' dresses up like a Bat, the city's villains become 'freaks' as well (not the least of which being Two-Face. Maybe introduce the Joker at this point. Have the Joker be captured, reduce him to a supporting character, and follow his story separately as a B- or even C-plot each week as he twists his Arkham therapist Dr. Quinzel into Harley Quinn, end that year with her breaking him out of Arkham. Spend another year dancing around with the two of them, only for Joker to murder Harley without a second thought in order to escape Batman. Continue adapting as you like. I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event, that might be an interesting event to cap off an entire series with, providing you drop clues for it throughout the entire run of the show.


No. Cataclysm/No Mans Land, premium channel, ensemble cast. One issue an episode, youve got about 8 seasons worth of material.
 
2012-06-08 08:31:30 AM

Cyno01: NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material and stick it on a cable channel that'll do it justice--HBO, Starz, Showtime--whatever.


Have him spend the first season battling away at mobsters (heck, tackle Long Halloween as a season-long story arc), and end it with one of the crooks disfiguring the wonderful city DA Harvey Dent. In the second year deal with the 'escalation' theme that's in the current films--a 'freak' dresses up like a Bat, the city's villains become 'freaks' as well (not the least of which being Two-Face. Maybe introduce the Joker at this point. Have the Joker be captured, reduce him to a supporting character, and follow his story separately as a B- or even C-plot each week as he twists his Arkham therapist Dr. Quinzel into Harley Quinn, end that year with her breaking him out of Arkham. Spend another year dancing around with the two of them, only for Joker to murder Harley without a second thought in order to escape Batman. Continue adapting as you like. I especially loved the recent Night of the Owls event, that might be an interesting event to cap off an entire series with, providing you drop clues for it throughout the entire run of the show.

No. Cataclysm/No Mans Land, premium channel, ensemble cast. One issue an episode, youve got about 8 seasons worth of material.



The trouble with Cataclysm is that it kind of depends on the stuff that precedes it. I suppose you could ignore Contagion/Legacy, but they are what Cataclysm came out of so it might take a bit of wiggling.

But I think the real problem with attempting to adapt Cataclysm/NML is that for its heaviest emotional impact it relies on being familiar with the locales and characters. And while, sure, there's lots of us out there who are very familiar with these things, a TV show needs to establish itself and have its viewers invest in locations and characters before they give a damn about what's being destroyed or who might die. That, and that Cataclysm/NML doesn't seem like the sort of story that would really be able to carry an entire TV series and keep people interested. Great comic arc, but I'm not sure it would translate to TV well.

If they could find a way to trim the fat, it could make a pretty neat self-contained miniseries though.
 
2012-06-08 10:57:39 AM

MessyDwarf: [images.wikia.com image 400x471]


Zsasz did get the movie treatment. Even if he was treated very poorly. Watch Batman Begins again.
 
2012-06-08 07:18:11 PM

degenerate-afro: NeedlesslyCanadian: After TDKR, I'm not even itching for a new Batman film. I think it's high time for a new live-action series. No Adam West camp, make it every bit as dark as its comic source material

Adam West Batman was based off of the comic source material. Remember Batman didn't start turning "dark" until the 80s.


You don't have a single damned clue of what the flying fark you're talking about. Batman killed mofos in his first year. Robin was introduced to lighten him up due to the great number of children reading the comics back in the ass-end of the 30s, but Batman was a riff of the Shadow and the Spider, who weren't remotely campy.

Go learn your history, yo.

NeedlesslyCanadian: You're right, of course. Most people either forget that or don't know it, so generally it's easier to just not mention that bit at all. I haven't even read a lot from the period tbh; I find it hard to get into having been raised on the 'darker' Batman.


You, too.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: 1969, the first Neal Adams / Denny O'Niel collaboration. They worked together to wipe the memory of the TV show out of people's minds, and bring back the noir feel of the 40s.

the 1973 Detective run also had the amazing Manhunter backup stories which led to many awards and gave Walt Simonson one hell of a career.


FINALLY, somebody that knows WTF he's talking about.

Madbassist1: Batman used to be very very dark before then. He murdered without thought or regret. That whole 'I won'r kill' shiat is relatively recent.


Hey, look at that, that's 2 actual Batman fans around here.

Also, Didio and Morrison are the *worst farking thing* to happen to Batman since the Silver Age ruined him like the two guys up top seem to think he's always been.
 
2012-06-08 08:36:37 PM
Try actually reading some of the 60s comics, pal. They were camp, straight up.
 
2012-06-09 02:36:10 PM

loonatic112358: KatjaMouse: bark_atda_moon: If either Elizabeth Banks or Kristen Bell can pull off Harley Quinn, that would get my vote.

I vote Kristen Bell. She's, like, baby sloth adorable which makes the bat-sh*t craziness all the more worth while.

but in character, she should sound more like Arleen Sorkins voice work


As a nice added bonus Kevin Smith said he had a conversation with Kristen Bell a few years ago where she said she loved the Harley Quinn character and wanted to play her in a movie.
 
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