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(ESPN)   Can the Thunder topple yet another Western Conference giant or will the veteran Spurs push a Game 7? Find out in tonight's NBA WCF thread (9pm ET, TNT)   (espn.go.com) divider line 446
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2012-06-06 07:27:03 PM
so funny to think after the Spurs looked like a juggernaut after game 1, you had media types putting the Spurs on par with Jordan's Bulls and the Magic dynasty....and 8 days later the they are in a win or go home position (i think). and same with the Celts/Heat. "the celts big 3 are old! there's no way! Heat in 4, even without Bosh! They play better without Bosh!"

and with the lottery results, and suspiciously the team owned by the NBA was also the only team whose GM and President were specifically invited *wink* to attend the draft.....NBA is fixed.

it's is somewhere on the Continuum Of Fixed-ness between Serie A matches (lighltly dusted with a hint of being fixed) to pro wrasslin' (obviously, not even a sport).
 
2012-06-06 07:29:39 PM

rickythepenguin: NBA is fixed.


Maybe the lottery was but how is the NBA fixed when the Heat or on the brink of elimination?
 
2012-06-06 07:32:14 PM
Spurs just need more Duncanface (and Parker to go off like the first two games).

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/Go Duncanfaces!
 
2012-06-06 07:33:49 PM

TheJoe03: rickythepenguin: NBA is fixed.

Maybe the lottery was but how is the NBA fixed when the Heat or on the brink of elimination?


As many have pointed out, it's a bigger story when the Heat lose than when they win.
 
2012-06-06 07:38:30 PM

TheJoe03: Maybe the lottery was but how is the NBA fixed when the Heat or on the brink of elimination?



i think arguably the ratings aren't terribly dissimilar if the Celts advance. whereas with the Heat you at least have a polarizing figure (or duo, as Dwyane Wade used to be a marketable persona but ove rthe last few years, has kind of become a heel, to borrow a pro wrasslin' term), with the Celtics you have a dynasty whcih the Heat certainly aren't.

it isn't entirely fixed but....Stern will assign the "right" referee crew. Hell you can find a story right here -- about how certain refs get so many more games than others.

MY WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
 
2012-06-06 07:38:31 PM

Doogled: As many have pointed out, it's a bigger story when the Heat lose than when they win.


It's a better story if they lose in the finals, which they most likely would.
 
2012-06-06 07:42:32 PM
hoopeduponline.com
 
2012-06-06 07:44:06 PM

rickythepenguin: MY WHAT A COINCIDENCE!


I can't really disagree, Stern has definitely used refs to sway series during his tenure, but I still think both conference finals are being determined on the court.
 
2012-06-06 07:47:08 PM

TheJoe03: , but I still think both conference finals are being determined on the court.


which is why I said the NBA is somewhere between pro wrasslin' and italian football.

it isn't entirely fixed, but it is a little bit fixed. Donaghy said as much. they're not saying, "ensure ___ wins", they're reminding refs to watch a certain team's players more *wink*.

it is i'd say 90% determined on the court but 10% of it is either ensuring certain matchups occur or drawing out series = more games = more tv revenue.

liek the last time the Heat won it. what was that 4th quarter? Wade went to the line like 17 times to the Mavs as a team getting there 3? there was some ungodly kind of foul disparity.
 
2012-06-06 07:47:26 PM
Going to be interesting to watch Westbrook tonight. I have a feeling he's going to be shooting more than Kobe going for a scoring title; Thunder better hope he's on.
 
2012-06-06 07:58:02 PM
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2012-06-06 08:01:59 PM
GENOBLI!!!
 
2012-06-06 08:05:07 PM
Thunder gonna thund. Unless of course the floppers can flop even harder tonight.
 
2012-06-06 08:08:30 PM

TheBigBadCrystallineEntity: Thunder gonna thund. Unless of course the floppers can flop even harder tonight.


Oh yeah, cuz Soften and Westbrook aren't divas on the court or anything.

rickythepenguin: TheJoe03: , but I still think both conference finals are being determined on the court.

which is why I said the NBA is somewhere between pro wrasslin' and italian football.

it isn't entirely fixed, but it is a little bit fixed. Donaghy said as much. they're not saying, "ensure ___ wins", they're reminding refs to watch a certain team's players more *wink*.

it is i'd say 90% determined on the court but 10% of it is either ensuring certain matchups occur or drawing out series = more games = more tv revenue.

liek the last time the Heat won it. what was that 4th quarter? Wade went to the line like 17 times to the Mavs as a team getting there 3? there was some ungodly kind of foul disparity.


There was a game in particular, that was decided by a possession or two.. that Wade went to the line 25 times. 25. 25. More than the Mavs combined. Getting the title last year was sweet revenge, but 2006 still leaves a bitter taste in mouth.

IIRC one of the refs that officiated is the one that got in a whole bunch of trouble for fixing games.
 
2012-06-06 08:09:08 PM
Remember, no matter what result happens, the NBA definitely is fixed, and nothing could ever possibly happen to refute this world view.

Also, there is definitely someone watching you from across the street. And 9/11 was definitely an inside job.
 
2012-06-06 08:12:37 PM

rickythepenguin: liek the last time the Heat won it. what was that 4th quarter? Wade went to the line like 17 times to the Mavs as a team getting there 3? there was some ungodly kind of foul disparity.


Don't remind me, I'm still mad about that series, even after my Mavs got the title last year.
 
2012-06-06 08:14:20 PM
NBA is fixed, series goes to game 7.
 
2012-06-06 08:21:35 PM
"Close out games are easy"

A.Bynum.
 
2012-06-06 08:23:51 PM
btw what's the over under on flops tonight?
 
2012-06-06 08:24:30 PM
You think the NBA is MORE fixed than Serie A? Juventus, anyone?
 
2012-06-06 08:24:38 PM
So if killing a hooker won't help a team win, what is the Spurs strategy tonight?
 
2012-06-06 08:26:07 PM

Dookie-chute: btw what's the over under on flops tonight?


Better question: More double technicals or double flops in this game?
 
2012-06-06 08:26:36 PM

TheManofPA: So if killing a hooker won't help a team win, what is the Spurs strategy tonight?


Scoring points.

- Greg Popovich
 
2012-06-06 08:28:54 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Remember, no matter what result happens, the NBA definitely is fixed, and nothing could ever possibly happen to refute this world view.

Also, there is definitely someone watching you from across the street. And 9/11 was definitely an inside job.


Even though I don't believe the NBA is fixed, it's so much fun to joke about it and make references about it.

Honestly though, Stern should've won executive of the year with the job he did with the Hornets.
 
2012-06-06 08:34:56 PM
www.sportsgrid.com
 
2012-06-06 08:35:21 PM
Now THIS is a series!
 
2012-06-06 08:42:25 PM
Do they have to show traveling infractions in the highlights?
 
2012-06-06 08:47:34 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Do they have to show traveling infractions in the highlights?


I always laugh whenever there's a picture on the homepage of ESPN or Yahoo that has a player clearly extending his off arm to keep an opposing player from getting anywhere near the ball.
 
2012-06-06 08:48:30 PM
I wish we could see an intro like THIS tonight...TNT just isn't the same.
 
2012-06-06 08:55:34 PM
I predict three quick fouls on an OKC player and a game 7.
 
2012-06-06 08:55:59 PM
I now incorporate Durant's shimmy shake at the free throw line into my daily teeth brushing routine.
 
2012-06-06 08:57:54 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I predict three quick fouls on an OKC player and a game 7.


Nah, I think the league would want OKC to win this at home. Imagine the environment when presenting the WC championship trophy to Howard Schultz in front of those screaming fans.
 
2012-06-06 09:00:41 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I predict three quick fouls on an OKC player and a game 7.


Thunder's nemesis Joey Crawford is officiating the game tonight


With Crawford on the court, the Thunder is 2-4 all-time (Oklahoma City era only) in playoff games. Without him, the Thunder is 20-11.

You might have something there...
 
2012-06-06 09:01:26 PM

drew46n2: I wish we could see an intro like THIS tonight...TNT just isn't the same.


TNT ain't the problem, it's ABC and ESPN, they don't hold a candle to the old NBA on NBC coverage. Inside the NBA is still my favorite sports show on TV, so that's why I won't say anything bad about TNT.
 
2012-06-06 09:02:56 PM
Jebus crowd, make some noise already. This is not a playoff crowd.
 
2012-06-06 09:03:50 PM
All right, OKC, finish 'em off tonight.
 
2012-06-06 09:03:58 PM
I still think the Spurs will win the Finals. WE SHALL SEE
 
2012-06-06 09:04:14 PM
GONOBLI!!
 
2012-06-06 09:04:25 PM
Threeball, Manu, right out of the gate.
 
2012-06-06 09:04:47 PM

Dookie-chute: TheShavingofOccam123: I predict three quick fouls on an OKC player and a game 7.

Thunder's nemesis Joey Crawford is officiating the game tonight


With Crawford on the court, the Thunder is 2-4 all-time (Oklahoma City era only) in playoff games. Without him, the Thunder is 20-11.

You might have something there...


Also a convenient illness with one of the officials, bringing an alternate into play.
 
2012-06-06 09:06:40 PM
I'm amazed. No fouls yet.
 
2012-06-06 09:07:15 PM
This is going to be a great game.
 
2012-06-06 09:09:05 PM
Lifelong Spurs fan here and I can't find anything bad to say about the Thunder. After your team wins it 3 or 4 times it just ain't fun to pick on the upstart teams/expansion small market teams.

Beat the crap out of the East, OKC.
 
2012-06-06 09:09:30 PM
15-8 San Antonio, 7:35 1st

Timeout, Thunder.
 
2012-06-06 09:09:43 PM
Parker is going off. Bad news for OKC.
 
2012-06-06 09:10:29 PM

Degenz: Lifelong Spurs fan here and I can't find anything bad to say about the Thunder. After your team wins it 3 or 4 times it just ain't fun to pick on the upstart teams/expansion small market teams.

Beat the crap out of the East, OKC.


Not sure why you're resigned to the Spurs losing after this great start. It's clear they're going to make OKC work hard for this if they want it. They're still young and anything can happen.
 
2012-06-06 09:13:13 PM

Degenz: Lifelong Spurs fan here and I can't find anything bad to say about the Thunder. After your team wins it 3 or 4 times it just ain't fun to pick on the upstart teams/expansion small market teams.

Beat the crap out of the East, OKC.


You're down 3-2. You know who I'd kill to be down 3-2 in the Stanley Cup Finals now? lol Sheeeeeeeit.
 
2012-06-06 09:14:56 PM
Spurs are not interested in letting the boxes of T-shirts and hats be opened.
 
2012-06-06 09:16:22 PM
Threeball, Parker. Spurs by 8
 
2012-06-06 09:17:37 PM
When you're the worst commissioner in pro sports and your competition is Gary Bettman and Bud Selig, you must reeeeeeeeaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy suck.
 
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