mandrake

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fwiw, I don't like the administration's lies either. I'm just not surprised by it, anymore than I was surprised by it out of Clinton's.

Some of you have some serious balls for condeming her for wistle-blowing on the admin's propoganda (probably after getting all teary-eyed and waving your little flags around for her after seeing her "rescue", none-the-less). She did the right thing here. All of the personal slander being made against her isn't worth a crap, and its not going to pursuade any rational person to belive that she isn't credible about her accout of how the war machine used her.

Emperor-Jay Is elections are suspended for any reason, I would take up arms and I'm sure alot of other people would too.

Father_Jack - because she wasn't vaginally raped. If she was raped it was ONLY anally. That's strange enough to me.

Add to my last post: lung collapsed due to internal tearing caused by the seatbelt. No visible marks, not even much of a bruise. Princess Di looked ok from the outside but her aorta had torn internally. If it had been obvious she might have made it but it wasn't, so she didn't. I'd like to see that medical report.

Emperor-Jay, did you write the first season of '24' ?

If I mean.

And remeber: I was right about Saddam disappearing just like bin Laden did

yeah...that was a tough one to pull outta the hat

Emperor-Jay Is elections are suspended for any reason, I would take up arms and I'm sure alot of other people would too.

Heck, I'm pro gun-control, and if that happened I would too.

Did the Government splash this story around? No. The media did.

Did the flag waving, Bush sucking, pig-ignorant yahoos who are constantly in a hurry to be disgusted with anyone who dares disagree with them buy the first version of events hook, line, and sinker?

You bet yer sweet ass they did.

Even if The Man (note the capitalization) didn't say this, His constituency certainly did. Bush may not have a reason to blush in this specific instance, but the right wing as a whole sure does.

also theres a conspiracy with the number 42 which is some sort of brainwashing program...

Hero tag.

How does that work toraque when the entertainment industry is made up of "left wing idiots".

good for her

2003-11-09 12:06:35 PM CrowTRobot
The liberal media censored a movie about Ronald Reagan that showed his Presidency in a less than positive light?

"showed his Presidency in less than a positive light?" How about "put homophobic words into his mouth that he never said," all while the real man is on his deathbed.

have i been asleep this whole time or did someone just put Cormee's SbB photoshop up?

-and he who can destoy a thing...controls that thing.

the whirlwind cometh.

-jihad...gods true voice.

It's annoying when an article makes "stupid" quotes that are only "one" or "two words" long. You can just take the words out of "context."

Sqee, office_despot

This country desperately needs more guys like you. People shouldn't be "pro-america", people should be "pro-freedom".

all while the real man is on his deathbed.

I didn't realize there were rules people had to play by when talking smack Fulgore243. Is everyone supposed to wait till the body has been buried?


he survived the Zero Year curse....he's gonna survive this. He's a robot for chrissake

Fulgore243

I have yet to understand what possessed the Reagans scriptwriter to make up quotes. There were plenty of real quotes and incidents to choose from that would have shown Reagan for the bastard he is. I'll remember to crack a smile when he breathes his last.

Pwnedagon!

The real question is: where is the news report that claims Lynch said "Let's Roll!(tm)" before going on her heroic Rambo-like tear through Iraq?

Before we get back to the topic of administration lies, I'll quote Joe Conason, who talks about the Reagans movie furor:
"Nobody on the right protested when Showtime aired that awful, tarted-up, Soviet-style TV movie about our heroic president last September. None of them cared that Lionel Chetwynd, the genius behind "D.C. 9/11," also happened to be a Bush backer and contributor handpicked by Karl Rove to produce this crucial propaganda piece. None of them minded that the journalists chosen to vet the accuracy of that piece of junk all worked for Fox. Back then, all the wingers liked Viacom -- parent of CBS and Showtime -- just fine.

Now those bold Viacom executives, whose intense need for regulatory favors from the White House and Congress surely never, ever influences a programming decision, should insist that the serious inaccuracies be removed from "The Reagans." The audience on Showtime will no doubt be bigger than anyone might have expected if the movie had been originally produced for cable -- thanks to all the loud bleating from the p.c. right. "

it will not do any good, ej.

politics and the perversion of the religion of christ are embedded in the same cart.

this world is 'set' on its own destructive path.

-and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Whoah whoah people, we're getting way off topic here.

Remember: You're always right. You also are the only one to truly see the vast conspiracy that "X" organization has put on america.

VisitorQ:

Is that a picture of The Liars? Great band....

The opening paragraph of the orig Washington Post article read as follows:

"Pfc. Jessica Lynch, rescued Tuesday from an Iraqi hospital, fought fiercely and shot several enemy soldiers after Iraqi forces ambushed the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, firing her weapon until she ran out of ammunition, U.S. officials said yesterday...."

This is for everyone who claims the government did not participate in the lies.

You liberals crack me up. First, you make up the story about her 'fighting to the end'. That NOW moron comes out and says that this "should once and for all stop the debate about women in combat"...

Now, you're spinning your own spin, and saying it was the 'pentagon lying to us'. Classic.

Oh yeah, one more thing-- somebody up there said that doctors are doctors, worldwide, and they would never hurt their patients. Umm-- what about the Iraqi 'patients' that they cut the ears off of for deserting Sadams powerful army?

Mission accomplished: So many news reports of different positions from different "sources" that the government can, at will, change their story and provide evidence that it's what they've said all along.

Ignorance is strength.

-jdave34...i, for one, will be watching with the masses.

we will hear the same whine from the right when it airs on showtime.

it will do them no good.

soon...it will all start to turn around and reagan will have to face justice.

-not in this world, sadly.

but justice eternal...nonetheless.

jessica will end up a martyr at the hands of those who once praised her.

that will not be forgotten.

-nothing is forgotten.

It's fun to think of Reagan crapping and drooling all over himself.

zOmega26

What are you talking about, the Pentagon planned media maipulation from the moment they decided to stage this "rescue" and film it. Now the truth comes out and it was all liberals fooling themselves.Pull your head out, just more propaganda from the neo facist right.

Bauer

you think that if Bill Clinton comes down with alzheimers and becomes a drooling vegetable, that the republicans will be kind enough to forget all about his transgressions and focus on making him a saint as well?

zOmega26:

in reference to your doctors cutting ears off comment, look here:

http://www.wri-irg.org/news/2003/iraq-co1.htm

which apparently supports your claim. NOTE: i have no idea about the veracity of this report. It is sourced to orgs. I have found reliable in the past, but it is a campaigning site for a specific viewpoint (interestingly, an anti-war one).

decide for yourself.

At least Lynch didn't turn out to be a psycho who raped a nun.

Man.. I'm getting all sorts of mileage out of that movie. :D

RF

Repukelicans on FARK are gay.

This is a fact, and it is not in dispute.

Go back to Freek Republic. Everyone here is more intelligent than you.

I believe the real issue is being danced around:

Our soldiers need AKs over there. The M16s and M4s are too finicky for the desert environment. Even at the ranges at Ft. Campbell, where there was minimal dirt flying around, you could expect your weapon to jam at least once while firing. This is after you take your weapon out of storage and clean it prior to firing.

The accuracy loss due to using the AK is minimal, and they're a lot better suited for the desert environment.

Emperor-Jay,

It's not that nobody believes the "American Reichstag" theory of 9/11, it's that they are too terrorized by their government to speak up. When your own president tells you, "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists", it's a pretty clear sign that good, decent people are meant to fear the consequences of standing up to militarism.

Besides, many of these farkers are dirty bastard Bush supporters who don't care one iota about Bush's documented hypocrisy, criminal enterprise and war-crimes, and in fact consider hypocrisy and fascist-sympathy to be trivial transgressions.

When Bill Clinton said he'd pick up a rifle and die for Israel, I knew then and there that America had been silently conquered with the help of people like Rumsfeld, Bush, and Cheney. It's little more than a corporate holding at this point, and the corporations have only just started 'downsizing' our economy.

As for Jessica Lynch, she shares one thing with Mr. Bush: she's the victim of social promotion and will be receiving a great deal of unwanted attention. She's a cog in the wheel and she's gonna feel the spin.

Just my opinions, accurate as they are.

I've seen enough pictures of ear-less Iraqi's to know somethings up. Unless, maybe they have a lot of Steve Bartman's at their soccer games, and the fans got a hold of 'em.

SchlingFo

Wouldn't need anything if they weren't there. Right now they need something to counter SAM attacks.

Fulgore,

"showed his Presidency in less than a positive light?" How about "put homophobic words into his mouth that he never said," all while the real man is on his deathbed.

I believe the courts already established that news organizations are allowed to lie to sell stories.

I don't see why they can't lie in a TV biography.

This is just more evidence of the conservative media propagating its lie that the media is liberal. It Cancels a documentary portraying an extreme right wing wacko president for what he is and shoves this fake military-loving bullcrap down our throughts. fark em

LawyersRock Your name says it all...

Emperor-Jay et. al.
Some of this is directed toward lefties in general and not specifically to you so should know that going in. It is entirely possible to be pro-America and pro-freedom. Contrary what the foreign media and Fox news would have you believe, most Americans are not, in fact, neocon neoimperialists. Most Americans are actually reasonable people. If we want to oust the jackasses who are currently in power and maybe then we can begin to repair the damage that has been done, we have to provide them with a viable alternative. Acting like a caricature of goofy ultra-left fanatics is not going to inspire much of anything in the American people asside from contempt. The tactics that work so well when you're preaching to the chior do not work at all when you're trying to convince people who are the least bit skeptical. This is where the right-wingers have you beat hands down, they know how to speak to average Americans and convince these people to go along with their agenda. Using phrases like "Amerika" and "Bu'ush" may seem like clever word play to you, but it's not very clever, it's very annoying even to someone like me who hates Bush(and loves America), and what's worse is that it's the easiest way to get everyone else to instantly ignore your posts. You could have the best point in the world, but if you write it in that annoying lefty-goofball fashion, no one will read it because it sounds so stupid. You have to show the average American what is glaringly obvious, that it is possible to be against Bush and yet not be a flaming hippie communist. Clinton taught the republicans how to speak to undecided people, now you should learn from them.

LawyersRock -- It's not a documentary if it's heavily dramatized.
As for partisanship, my judgement is that the media aren't so much partisan as they are capitalist; they'll follow the money, and that mostly means advertising dollars. That's why boycotts work when done by sufficiently large groups.
With regards to Reagan, it would be more interesting to run a documentary on Iran-Contra rather than the relationship between Ronald and Nancy, would it not?