Pocket Ninja: For those of you who don't want to endure any more of the idiocy that is CNN coverage of political events than you have to, just skip ahead to about 5:30.
vpb: I am surprised that more hasn't been made of the fact that Walker was not bound by campaign finance laws while Barrett was. Barrett had 4 million, 74% from Wisconsin and Walker had 30.5 million, 2/3rds from out of state. So Walker outspent Barrett 7 ½ to 1.I think you can safely say that this election was bought.
Cythraul: I think if you tried to say that, conservatives would just reply, "sour grapes.$oro$!!!"
Thoguh: Democracy died with Citizen's United. And all the voters stupid enough to base their voting on what TV commercials tell them.
Thoguh: And all the voters stupid enough to base their voting on what TV commercials tell them
DarkJohnson: Thoguh: And all the voters stupid enough to base their voting on what TV commercials tell themNo internet in Wisconsin? Besides, democracy always leaves someone crying like a little girl.[notcoming.com image 458x344]
adamgreeney: Well, considering the tens of millions from out of state donors, illegal robo-calls to trick voters and other suppression techniques used during this recall, yes, it did die.
sweetmelissa31: Democracy has been dead in this country since at least 2000.
Elandriel: I'm just annoyed at the gloating, personally. I'm coming to hate the situation, regardless of who wins. We're one country, and winning an election doesn't mean the opponents cease to exist. It's not a mandate to do whatever you want and screw over those other people. Team politics has really gotten to the point where a lot of people literally see their political opposition as the enemy and want only to see them suffer.It can't end well, and there is literally zero call to end this divisiveness and come back to some kind of civility. If the media as a whole had anything even approaching a soul, they would use their ridiculously over the top influence to try and calm the situation. Instead...
Weaver95: adamgreeney: Well, considering the tens of millions from out of state donors, illegal robo-calls to trick voters and other suppression techniques used during this recall, yes, it did die.I think the key difference last night came down to 1. massive levels of out of state funding and 2. outright lies from Walker's people. he straight up lied about the WI budget, lied about the results of his efforts to date and lied about his plans for the future. then just hammered those lies home with all that money he had sitting around.i'm reading the exit poll breakdown data and it's fascinating reading. money really did make the difference, not the illegal robocalls and voter suppression.
Weaver95: sure, last night was a GOP win...but was it worth it for their long term goals?
gilgigamesh: ability of billionaire oligarchs' ability
beta_plus: Democracy can only work when The Democrat Party win every election. If you think otherwise, you are a racist.
Cythraul: If Democracy is fueled by millions upon millions of out-of-state dollars, then Democracy is certainly still alive, subby.
gilgigamesh: gilgigamesh: ability of billionaire oligarchs' abilityNext they will try their hand at buying the main MSM stream media.
Rapmaster2000: Pish posh. These True Patriots have chosen what they really want. Let's see how it turns out for them.
lacrossestar83: beta_plus: Democracy can only work when The Democrat Party win every election. If you think otherwise, you are a racist.1.5/10
sammyk: I see the politics tab is going to consist of rightwingers gloating about winning an election that never would have happened if Walker didn't do a massive over reach.
NallTWD: beta_plus: Democracy can only work when The Democrat Party win every election. If you think otherwise, you are a racist.No, you're just the regular kind of Palin-American.
Weaver95: Rapmaster2000: Pish posh. These True Patriots have chosen what they really want. Let's see how it turns out for them.I see this as a prelim run for later this year. the data is starting to roll in from last night...lets see what numbers we can crunch out of the past couple/few weeks and come up with an analysis for later.tell you what tho...one thing that seems pretty clear is that if you've got unlimited amounts of money, you can do almost anything you want to voters and they'll put you back in power. campaign spending in this race was amazingly high....and the GOP pumped gobs of cash into WI to keep Walker in power.
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