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(Stars and Stripes)   "America's Got Talent" contestant Timothy Michael Poe claimed on TV to have TBI from Afghan War grenade attack. Military: Not so fast   (stripes.com) divider line 137
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2012-06-06 09:06:33 AM
Scumbag
 
2012-06-06 09:06:57 AM
i got blowed up?
 
2012-06-06 09:07:53 AM
"By the time I turned and went to jump on my guys, I yelled 'grenade' and the blast had hit me,"

I didn't see this show, this is what he said? Yea RPGs don't fly slowly like they do in movies and video games.
 
2012-06-06 09:08:28 AM
He dun goofed!
 
2012-06-06 09:09:25 AM
NutWrench: He dun goofed!

Consequences will never be the same.
 
2012-06-06 09:09:37 AM
I'll bet he didn't expect the military to take notice
/lolwhoops
 
2012-06-06 09:09:57 AM
1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?
 
2012-06-06 09:10:10 AM
What is TBI? Also, dude needs to Have some serious smack down for lieing about a war injury.
 
2012-06-06 09:10:20 AM
I had to burn poo in Iraq.
 
2012-06-06 09:11:08 AM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?


Traumatic Brain Injury.
 
2012-06-06 09:11:08 AM
I hope asplodes on stage - d-ckhead.
 
2012-06-06 09:11:26 AM
TBI = Traumatic Brain Injury
 
2012-06-06 09:12:21 AM
I know that article was in Stripes, and they assume their readers already know. But the first time you reference TBI, you also need to write "traumatic brain injury".
 
2012-06-06 09:13:43 AM
Maybe the TBI makes him think he was in the 'ghan
 
2012-06-06 09:13:55 AM
This is like the country music equivalent of rappers claiming to have been involved in lots of violent crime and having hard childhoods.
 
2012-06-06 09:14:14 AM
Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.
 
2012-06-06 09:15:00 AM
MattyFridays: 2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?

National Guard + supply specialist

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone or every unit goes for extended periods of time.
 
2012-06-06 09:18:22 AM
There's another story that was on Gothamist yesterday about a SEAL impersonator who ran another con and ended up assaulting a girl.

I can't understand people who have such low self esteem that they have to stoop to the level to impersonate.

I can understand the reasoning why *young* men may do it, because the advantage, is obviously, girls.

But when old men do it, it's heartbreaking because it's just so pathetic.

I remember a couple of impersonators, not sure if they were on FARK, one young kid was obviously way too fat to be a SEAL, and the other one was an old man who looked like he was wearing a Halloween costume uniform and everyone bought it.
 
2012-06-06 09:18:24 AM
Inflatable Rhetoric: I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

I remember during Gulf War I (1991), some dude on the news in Minnesota(?) claiming to be a F-111 pilot, flew missions, blew shiat up, etc, etc.
Turns out he was just an E-3 home on leave, and wanted a little fame. The TV station sucked it right up.
 
2012-06-06 09:20:44 AM
Tim Johnson was on America's Got Talent?
 
2012-06-06 09:20:45 AM
What an insult to the soldiers who really do have TBI, although they may not be able to know that they have been insulted.

www.propublica.org
 
2012-06-06 09:21:47 AM
MattyFridays: I can't understand people who have such low self esteem that they have to stoop to the level to impersonate.

I'm not actually a funny, witty and snarky person, but I impersonate one on Fark.
 
2012-06-06 09:22:57 AM
Hey, give the guy a break! The military is known for cover-ups. For instance, the Navy refuses to acknowledge my role as a marine core soldier because I went on many top-secret missions. They even refused to give me the Presidential Purple Star of Honor after I jumped on a RPG (that's Really Powerful Gernade, for you civilians) to save President Franklin's life when he was visiting us soldiers at our secret base in Albania.

This guy is probably a hero, but there's a conspiracy against him. It's more likely than you think.
 
2012-06-06 09:23:18 AM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?


Traumatic Brain Injury

Supply Specialist. Maybe he was in charge of those convoys of money paying of Afghan warlords to stop them from shooting at us? Probably a quick detail.
 
2012-06-06 09:26:37 AM
eKonk: Hey, give the guy a break! The military is known for cover-ups. For instance, the Navy refuses to acknowledge my role as a marine core soldier because I went on many top-secret missions. They even refused to give me the Presidential Purple Star of Honor after I jumped on a RPG (that's Really Powerful Gernade, for you civilians) to save President Franklin's life when he was visiting us soldiers at our secret base in Albania.

This guy is probably a hero, but there's a conspiracy against him. It's more likely than you think.


WOW!

Is this you with your marine core???

encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-06-06 09:31:34 AM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?


According to others who served with him in his unit, he was sent home after a month with an ear infection.
 
2012-06-06 09:32:02 AM
Kaka: eKonk: Hey, give the guy a break! The military is known for cover-ups. For instance, the Navy refuses to acknowledge my role as a marine core soldier because I went on many top-secret missions. They even refused to give me the Presidential Purple Star of Honor after I jumped on a RPG (that's Really Powerful Gernade, for you civilians) to save President Franklin's life when he was visiting us soldiers at our secret base in Albania.

This guy is probably a hero, but there's a conspiracy against him. It's more likely than you think.

WOW!

Is this you with your marine core???

[encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 275x183]


wife-like typing detected.
 
2012-06-06 09:32:16 AM
Y'all being a bit hard on the boy...

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-06 09:33:06 AM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?


Throttle body injection
 
2012-06-06 09:33:59 AM
MattyFridays: 2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?


Easy, the U.S. has 662 overseas bases in 38 foreign countries. At least.
 
2012-06-06 09:34:50 AM
Dead for Tax Reasons: MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?

Throttle body injection


Thermal Bullsh*t Indicator.
 
2012-06-06 09:36:29 AM
CSB, An acquaintance of mine did something similar on a much smaller scale.

While he was deployed to Iraq, he claimed to his family that he was shot when clearing a building. His family and friends of course applauded his heroism.

Problem arose when someone else in his unit caught wind of it, and had full knowledge that he was just fine. One anonymous letter to his parents later and the kid got the shame he deserved.

I hope Amurrikas got Talent calls this chode out on the air.
 
2012-06-06 09:36:36 AM
MattyFridays: 2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?

I've been in the reserves for 21 years.
Deployed once for 5 months.
 
2012-06-06 09:38:05 AM
Kaka: eKonk: Hey, give the guy a break! The military is known for cover-ups. For instance, the Navy refuses to acknowledge my role as a marine core soldier because I went on many top-secret missions. They even refused to give me the Presidential Purple Star of Honor after I jumped on a RPG (that's Really Powerful Gernade, for you civilians) to save President Franklin's life when he was visiting us soldiers at our secret base in Albania.

This guy is probably a hero, but there's a conspiracy against him. It's more likely than you think.

WOW!

Is this you with your marine core???

[encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 275x183]


Of course that's not me, I'm not that old. That does appear to be one of the marine core Seal instructors (notice the special seal-like costume?). He's demonstrating how a good soldier holds his gun when storming a beachhead on d-days.
 
2012-06-06 09:40:11 AM
It's "reality" tv, so you gotta expect some fiction.

/amirite?
 
2012-06-06 09:40:56 AM
Obvious his talent isn't lying.
 
2012-06-06 09:43:08 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

These are my awards, Mother. From Army.
 
2012-06-06 09:45:48 AM
Know who else stuttered and made it in music? ...

"Ski-bop-bop-badop-bop!"
 
2012-06-06 09:47:03 AM
Of course, to be fair. The military really doesnt' ever like to admit that anyone ever has a TBI.

Of course, to be fair, you'd need one to enlist.
 
2012-06-06 09:47:21 AM
farvour: Know who else stuttered and made it in music? ...

"Ski-bop-bop-badop-bop!"


Mel Tillis?

/That was his name, right?
 
2012-06-06 09:56:12 AM
PYROY: This is like the country music equivalent of rappers claiming to have been involved in lots of violent crime and having hard childhoods.

passionweiss.com
 
2012-06-06 09:59:29 AM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.


Just wanted to point out, if it was classified 20 years ago, it's still classified now. You are responsible for that information to stay classified for 75 years.

CSB:

Had a guy at a previous client site trying to claim he was former Army. I asked him what his M.O.S. was, and he responded with, "Huh?" Asked again what his M.O.S. was and he asked, "What's that?" so I responded with, "Your military occupational specialty." He next asked, "What's that mean?" By this point I was rolling my eyes, and I replied, "Your job." He says to me with a straight face, "I was a research scientist."

/CSB
 
2012-06-06 10:00:37 AM
He only said that because his real job as a mall SWAT officer is too top secret to talk about.
 
2012-06-06 10:01:33 AM
He'll be quietly removed from the competition to avoid controversy. Can't have the network look like they got snookered. I suspect no mention will ever be made of this on air, not even the fact that he's just "not around" anymore.
 
2012-06-06 10:02:11 AM
So what's his FARK handle, FlyNavy or TheConvincingSavant?
 
2012-06-06 10:02:13 AM
vudukungfu: Of course, to be fair. The military really doesnt' ever like to admit that anyone ever has a TBI. Of course, to be fair, you'd need one to enlist.

There should really be an expression to describe that sort of situation.
 
2012-06-06 10:03:07 AM
Didn't we have a guy like that here a few years ago?
Posted all sorts of crap about his military record until someone actually looked him up and called him out on it?
 
2012-06-06 10:04:35 AM
Barricaded Gunman: vudukungfu: Of course, to be fair. The military really doesnt' ever like to admit that anyone ever has a TBI. Of course, to be fair, you'd need one to enlist.

There should really be an expression to describe that sort of situation.


Some kind of a catch-all phrase...
 
2012-06-06 10:04:57 AM
My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

img39.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-06 10:06:35 AM
xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

6/10/2105 and Bush is still alive?? Whoa...
 
2012-06-06 10:07:41 AM
I sent you into danger based on lies. Sorry about your missing legs. Here's an award. We good?
img39.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-06 10:07:48 AM
Had a guy at a previous client site trying to claim he was former Army. I asked him what his M.O.S. was, and he responded with, "Huh?" Asked again what his M.O.S. was and he asked, "What's that?" so I responded with, "Your military occupational specialty." He next asked, "What's that mean?" By this point I was rolling my eyes, and I replied, "Your job." He says to me with a straight face, "I was a research scientist."

Google suggests that the army does have research scientists, and I'm a guessin' that if somebody in the army is out of the chain where they'd have to be thinking about what things like "MOS" are, it would be them. I mean, assuming that the army legitimately needs research scientists inside the organization (that is, they want to do something in-house that couldn't be outsourced to some defense contractor for only several hundred multiples of cost), then I sure hope they aren't cutting themselves out of 99% of the best and brightest candidates in the field by making them do, you know, pushups (i keed).
 
2012-06-06 10:08:12 AM
eKonk: Kaka: eKonk: Hey, give the guy a break! The military is known for cover-ups. For instance, the Navy refuses to acknowledge my role as a marine core soldier because I went on many top-secret missions. They even refused to give me the Presidential Purple Star of Honor after I jumped on a RPG (that's Really Powerful Gernade, for you civilians) to save President Franklin's life when he was visiting us soldiers at our secret base in Albania.

This guy is probably a hero, but there's a conspiracy against him. It's more likely than you think.

WOW!

Is this you with your marine core???

[encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 275x183]

Of course that's not me, I'm not that old. That does appear to be one of the marine core Seal instructors (notice the special seal-like costume?). He's demonstrating how a good soldier holds his gun when storming a beachhead on d-days.


:)))

Well played sir
 
2012-06-06 10:09:52 AM
Paging Flynavy to the TBI thread. Paging Flynavy to the TBI thread.
 
2012-06-06 10:11:16 AM
Seems pretty obvious that he is suffering from a TBI.
 
2012-06-06 10:13:32 AM
Bomb Head Mohammed: Had a guy at a previous client site trying to claim he was former Army. I asked him what his M.O.S. was, and he responded with, "Huh?" Asked again what his M.O.S. was and he asked, "What's that?" so I responded with, "Your military occupational specialty." He next asked, "What's that mean?" By this point I was rolling my eyes, and I replied, "Your job." He says to me with a straight face, "I was a research scientist."

Google suggests that the army does have research scientists, and I'm a guessin' that if somebody in the army is out of the chain where they'd have to be thinking about what things like "MOS" are, it would be them. I mean, assuming that the army legitimately needs research scientists inside the organization (that is, they want to do something in-house that couldn't be outsourced to some defense contractor for only several hundred multiples of cost), then I sure hope they aren't cutting themselves out of 99% of the best and brightest candidates in the field by making them do, you know, pushups (i keed).


He also had no idea what a D.D. 214 was. There were all other sorts of problems with his claim, not the least off which was the fact that he had no college education to speak of. Even medical staff have to go through Officer training, so I'm sure he would have had to have encountered basic Army/military lingo at some point.
 
2012-06-06 10:14:55 AM
Before reading the article, I assumed that he was just exaggerating a story about being near an explosive and suffering a mild concussion or something, which I imagine soldiers don't always officially report for the same reason construction workers and lab techs won't: it can get you a medical suspension, which often means "unpaid suspension".

But then the article mentions that he claims he broke his back and suffered a permanent physical brain trauma that altered his speech patterns. Yeah, when the lie is that big he pretty clearly was never in any danger whatsoever.
 
2012-06-06 10:15:25 AM
grinding_journalist: He'll be quietly removed from the competition to avoid controversy. Can't have the network look like they got snookered. I suspect no mention will ever be made of this on air, not even the fact that he's just "not around" anymore.

This. It's easy. They sent him to Vegas, but they send hundreds of acts to Vegas and it's impossible to put all of them on TV during the Vegas rounds. They simply say he got to Vegas and didn't make it past there and was eliminated by the judges, and forget he ever existed.
 
2012-06-06 10:16:29 AM
shivashakti: xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

6/10/2105 and Bush is still alive?? Whoa...


He's not going anywhere until the war is over.
 
2012-06-06 10:16:34 AM
fanzone50.com

"What's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?!"
 
2012-06-06 10:19:01 AM
badlife: Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.

Just wanted to point out, if it was classified 20 years ago, it's still classified now. You are responsible for that information to stay classified for 75 years.

CSB:

Had a guy at a previous client site trying to claim he was former Army. I asked him what his M.O.S. was, and he responded with, "Huh?" Asked again what his M.O.S. was and he asked, "What's that?" so I responded with, "Your military occupational specialty." He next asked, "What's that mean?" By this point I was rolling my eyes, and I replied, "Your job." He says to me with a straight face, "I was a research scientist."

/CSB


There are many possibilities, but it became "classified" when I asked specific questions, such as locations, units, etc. Not likely to be classified.

PS I can't remember my MOS (the number, I know what I did), I tried to look it up once but didn't find it.
 
2012-06-06 10:19:09 AM
xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

[img39.imageshack.us image 600x456]


How is your bro doing?
 
2012-06-06 10:19:15 AM
Oh, and also this guy is a complete waste of space.

I'm not even a big pro-military guy, but faking injuries supposedly incurred during a military operation is A) disgustingly wormy and pathetic and B) a spit in the face to the people who have been actually injured.
 
2012-06-06 10:19:55 AM
Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

When an entire nation starts slobbering mindlessly over its military, classing anyone who has ever held a gun as a "hero" it's no wonder that a few people will try to cash in.
 
2012-06-06 10:21:26 AM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.


It's not just you.

Go compare the number of people that were actually POWs in Desert Storm and Vietnam with the number of people claiming they were POWs in Desert Storm and Vietnam that the freakin' VA is paying out POW benefits to.
 
2012-06-06 10:23:51 AM
Look...

The show is a booked talent variety show. The "contestants" are not contestants. They are booked through talent agencies to perform on the show, and they're told what they're going to do-- even if it's not something in their repertoire. Dancers are told "You're a singer from Hackensack" and jugglers are told "You're a dancer from New York City." They're told to ham it up and play to the audience, and make up a tale about their life.

The "winners" are also booked from talent agencies, but they're actually booked to perform their real act, so the Pendragons (a well-known magic duo) were booked to do stage magic, and the comedians are booked to tell jokes, and so on. They're encouraged to tell their real story.

This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

It's not a talent competition. It's a variety show masquerading as a talent competition.
 
2012-06-06 10:25:41 AM
xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

[img39.imageshack.us image 600x456]


06/10/2105 I knew it, there is a Presidential Time Machine.
 
2012-06-06 10:30:47 AM
ZeroCorpse: Look...

The show is a booked talent variety show. The "contestants" are not contestants. They are booked through talent agencies to perform on the show, and they're told what they're going to do-- even if it's not something in their repertoire. Dancers are told "You're a singer from Hackensack" and jugglers are told "You're a dancer from New York City." They're told to ham it up and play to the audience, and make up a tale about their life.

The "winners" are also booked from talent agencies, but they're actually booked to perform their real act, so the Pendragons (a well-known magic duo) were booked to do stage magic, and the comedians are booked to tell jokes, and so on. They're encouraged to tell their real story.

This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

It's not a talent competition. It's a variety show masquerading as a talent competition.


Are you in show business or something? Regardless though, this asshat is actually in the military so he should know better.
 
2012-06-06 10:33:17 AM
ZeroCorpse: It's not a talent competition. It's a variety show masquerading as a talent competition.

The bonus for the producers is that with phone voting, the media companies know what their consumers are willing to pay for BEFORE it goes into production! Who wouldn't want to print a record that's GUARANTEED to be platinum? No need for a failed 1 hit wonder, everyone has already indicated who they prefer.
 
2012-06-06 10:34:09 AM
shivashakti: xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

6/10/2105 and Bush is still alive?? Whoa...


He wanted to see the next transit of Venus.
 
2012-06-06 10:41:46 AM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.


I know that guy! He also pulled me out of a fox hole while the Germans were bombing Perl Harbor.
 
2012-06-06 10:49:48 AM
MattyFridays: I can't understand people who have such low self esteem that they have to stoop to the level to impersonate.

I can understand the reasoning why *young* men may do it, because the advantage, is obviously, girls.

But when old men do it, it's heartbreaking because it's just so pathetic.



It doesn't help that we practically worship soldiers in this country.
 
2012-06-06 10:51:27 AM
ace in your face: xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

[img39.imageshack.us image 600x456]

How is your bro doing?


20+ surgeries later he still can't walk. With that said the government gave him a check for $100k and has left him on active combat duty since the mortar attack. That was 5+ years ago (or 100 years from now depending on what universe we're in at the moment). So financially hes sound for now.

The community has been awesome.. The guy that sold him his house fixed up an old bankrupt one and sold it to him at cost. Made all kinds of changes to make it accessible too. The car dealership he got his Dodge from sold it to him at dealer invoice.. A Harley Davidson gave him a bike. So he's doin OK. Doesn't leave his house ever though and thats not healthy but whatever.
 
2012-06-06 10:55:03 AM
My '89 Suburban farm truck has TBI.

Also... I'm glad his story is BS because the kid wasn't a very good singer and I felt like a dick for bringing that up before.

He needs to go away now...

/And take f-ing Taylor Swift with him.
 
2012-06-06 10:57:48 AM
I think he's a stupid redneck, so it's no surprise he wants to pretend to be a real man.
 
2012-06-06 11:02:38 AM
IrateShadow: MattyFridays: I can't understand people who have such low self esteem that they have to stoop to the level to impersonate.

I can understand the reasoning why *young* men may do it, because the advantage, is obviously, girls.

But when old men do it, it's heartbreaking because it's just so pathetic.


It doesn't help that we practically worship soldiers in this country.


I think a lot of that has to do with the way Americans treated Vietnam vets. There was a -lot- of guilt in the US during the 80s. I remember growing up watching all those Vietnam movies from the late 70s into the late 80s. A lot of them centered on how devastating the war was to the young men who fought during that era and how badly they were treated when they got home. When Desert Storm hit there was a lot of Hu-Rah from my generation (we were spoon fed Hu-Rah). My parents generation had a lot of guilt from the way they treated vets during the 60s/70s so they had a bunch of pent up Hu-Rah and plus they had to shed that guilt. I grew up in a military family so we were shiatting Hu-Rah from birth.

So the result is what we have now which is a basic warship of American Soldiers. Which frankly is a lot better than the way Vietnam vets were treated.
 
2012-06-06 11:16:34 AM
xynix: IrateShadow: MattyFridays: I can't understand people who have such low self esteem that they have to stoop to the level to impersonate.

I can understand the reasoning why *young* men may do it, because the advantage, is obviously, girls.

But when old men do it, it's heartbreaking because it's just so pathetic.


It doesn't help that we practically worship soldiers in this country.

I think a lot of that has to do with the way Americans treated Vietnam vets. There was a -lot- of guilt in the US during the 80s. I remember growing up watching all those Vietnam movies from the late 70s into the late 80s. A lot of them centered on how devastating the war was to the young men who fought during that era and how badly they were treated when they got home. When Desert Storm hit there was a lot of Hu-Rah from my generation (we were spoon fed Hu-Rah). My parents generation had a lot of guilt from the way they treated vets during the 60s/70s so they had a bunch of pent up Hu-Rah and plus they had to shed that guilt. I grew up in a military family so we were shiatting Hu-Rah from birth.

So the result is what we have now which is a basic warship of American Soldiers. Which frankly is a lot better than the way Vietnam vets were treated.


Too true. I have no problem distinguishing between appreciation and sympathy for our soldiers, and absolute hatred for the wars they are sent into.
 
2012-06-06 11:16:52 AM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

Tea Bag Insertion
 
2012-06-06 11:20:50 AM
xynix: ace in your face: xynix: My brother isn't impressed (he just told me).

[img39.imageshack.us image 600x456]

How is your bro doing?

20+ surgeries later he still can't walk. With that said the government gave him a check for $100k and has left him on active combat duty since the mortar attack. That was 5+ years ago (or 100 years from now depending on what universe we're in at the moment). So financially hes sound for now.

The community has been awesome.. The guy that sold him his house fixed up an old bankrupt one and sold it to him at cost. Made all kinds of changes to make it accessible too. The car dealership he got his Dodge from sold it to him at dealer invoice.. A Harley Davidson gave him a bike. So he's doin OK. Doesn't leave his house ever though and thats not healthy but whatever.


I'm glad that he is financially stable right now even if recovery is slow. I remember you talking about this a couple years ago and it seems like things are a little stagnant :( Give him my best.
 
2012-06-06 11:24:05 AM
ZeroCorpse: Look...

The show is a booked talent variety show. The "contestants" are not contestants. They are booked through talent agencies to perform on the show, and they're told what they're going to do-- even if it's not something in their repertoire.



So, I know people who have been on the show, and at least for them, what you said isn't even remotely true. They came on, met with staff, passed the vetting process and got to perform on stage. According to them, a lot of the "reality" elements are coached, but the performances are certainly not. No one goes up to do something they're bad at, unless they're those asshats who do it just to get on TV.

However, my friends barely got any TV time, and were kicked out after the second round. They think it had to do with the fact that they didn't respond well to the producers' coaching to be emotionally over the top and whatnot, but maybe they just didn't do that well.

/CSB
 
2012-06-06 11:25:18 AM
xynix: So the result is what we have now which is a basic warship of American Soldiers.

Warships have sailors, not soldiers.
 
2012-06-06 11:31:04 AM
ZeroCorpse: This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

Yeah, totally harmless lie. Who cares, right?

Well, the charity he scammed probably cares.

Link

GRAPEVINE - It's hard to wipe the smile off the face of Timothy Poe. He greets you with a handshake and makes you feel welcome, just like the Defenders of Freedom have welcomed him back home....The Defenders of Freedom program pairs veterans like Poe with members in the business community who can help them transition back into life, and possibly help them get a job.

"When you see their faces and their families, you want to cry," Tom Foley said.

Foley owns a construction company and has been working with disabled vets for years. He helped Poe get a job after returning from war, and on the day we saw him, Foley was assisting another veteran.

"They come back and we pick them up from the beginning -- try to help them live, try to get them jobs and get them on their way," Foley said.

It's about getting them more comfortable with life, and giving support to our most fragile heroes.

"The people that you meet afterwards in the programs, it helps out a lot," Poe said through tears. "It helps out a lot."
 
2012-06-06 11:37:45 AM
Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

'nuff said.......
 
2012-06-06 11:42:33 AM
What he did was bad, but not as bad as getting us into a 6 456 week war on false pretense.
 
2012-06-06 11:43:12 AM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

Testicular Butthole Injection
 
2012-06-06 11:47:58 AM
Spade: ZeroCorpse: This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

Yeah, totally harmless lie. Who cares, right?

Well, the charity he scammed probably cares.

Link


Yikes. He claimed he was shot in the leg and broke his back then?
 
2012-06-06 11:49:17 AM
Myrl_Redding: What he did was bad, but not as bad as getting us into a 6 456 week war on false pretense.

Why do people think Iraq and Afghanistan are the same thing?
 
2012-06-06 11:55:37 AM
FTFA:

"...and judges Mandel and Sharon Osbourne appeared shocked and sympathetic while he spoke."

Also Howard Stern.

LFSW
 
2012-06-06 11:56:51 AM
MattyFridays: Spade: ZeroCorpse: This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

Yeah, totally harmless lie. Who cares, right?

Well, the charity he scammed probably cares.

Link


Yikes. He claimed he was shot in the leg and broke his back then?


Reportedly he does have a leg injury and a back injury.

Except word out on the milblogs is that the leg injury is from a bike kickstand and the back injury is from falling off a truck.
 
2012-06-06 11:56:54 AM
MattyFridays: Myrl_Redding: What he did was bad, but not as bad as getting us into a 6 456 week war on false pretense.

Why do people think Iraq and Afghanistan are the same thing?


Because they don't have maps and such as.
 
2012-06-06 12:11:27 PM
I remember watching this dude on Monday. I thought his stuttering sounded forced, but didn't really think anything of it.

After his "audition," he talked to Nick Cannon (Mr. Mariah Carey) backstage. Nick pointed out that he didn't stutter once while he was back there. At that point, I thought something was fishy.

Full episode on NBC. Skip ahead to 24:00.
 
2012-06-06 12:19:29 PM
ace in your face:

I'm glad that he is financially stable right now even if recovery is slow. I remember you talking about this a couple years ago and it seems like things are a little stagnant :( Give him my best.


Unfortunately yeah. Hopefully one day he'll come around and realize that life isn't over yet.. I mean he's only 30. But it's just one example of the casualties our people are suffering after they come home. Even the ones that didn't get injured are carrying around scars. Thanks BTW.
 
2012-06-06 12:21:59 PM
antarcticmoo: I remember watching this dude on Monday. I thought his stuttering sounded forced, but didn't really think anything of it.

After his "audition," he talked to Nick Cannon (Mr. Mariah Carey) backstage. Nick pointed out that he didn't stutter once while he was back there. At that point, I thought something was fishy.

Full episode on NBC. Skip ahead to 24:00.


The good thing about this is? There's been a lot of stories about military impersonation, but it's basically relegated to the internet and don't get a lot of play.

Tim Poe just made himself the poster child for it, and it's going to become a national discourse story.

Guarantee this: Poe will claim the producers told him to play up the story of his military service. The "faceless" producers are always to blame.

If Poe just played up his story for TV, I could understand it. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TV AND THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY DOES. The other story - about taking advantage of a military charity - is a lot more damning of his character.
 
2012-06-06 12:25:02 PM
This guy's actions are especially appalling to all of us real war-hero cowboy astronaut millionaires.
 
2012-06-06 12:33:21 PM
I'm willing to bet that if he ever had to go to Mental Health then there is more information that would clear up is back story. The problem is getting those records can be a pain in the ass even for the person that went there, I had to go twice while I was on active duty but they refused to give me the records for future reference after I got out. My primary doctor at the VA can't access them and neither can my psychologist or psychiatrist. Who the hell knows if they even decided to keep them?! The VA sent a request to collect them a couple months ago but I still haven't heard a word about it.
 
2012-06-06 12:39:30 PM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.


Maybe he flew the B-52's out of Danang. In the 90's. Hey, that still would've been in Vietnam. You just weren't listening closely enough when he told the story.
 
2012-06-06 12:44:20 PM
MattyFridays: Guarantee this: Poe will claim the producers told him to play up the story of his military service. The "faceless" producers are always to blame.

If that is the case then he probably had to fill out a non-disclosure agreement. Which would put him in a damned if you do/don't scenario. Have everyone in America hate you or get farked over by the TV for defamation and what not.
 
2012-06-06 12:44:43 PM
ZeroCorpse: Look...

The show is a booked talent variety show. The "contestants" are not contestants. They are booked through talent agencies to perform on the show, and they're told what they're going to do-- even if it's not something in their repertoire. Dancers are told "You're a singer from Hackensack" and jugglers are told "You're a dancer from New York City." They're told to ham it up and play to the audience, and make up a tale about their life.

The "winners" are also booked from talent agencies, but they're actually booked to perform their real act, so the Pendragons (a well-known magic duo) were booked to do stage magic, and the comedians are booked to tell jokes, and so on. They're encouraged to tell their real story.

This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

It's not a talent competition. It's a variety show masquerading as a talent competition.


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2012-06-06 12:46:30 PM
trippdogg: This guy's actions are especially appalling to all of us real war-hero cowboy astronaut millionaires.

Look! This cowboy hat comes right off!!

/"It's a phony!!"
 
2012-06-06 01:04:01 PM
After doing some quick research on this guy, it turns out he is ONE BIG DOUCHE BAG.

According to his ex-wife:

He is a liar, cheater, abuser, and deadbeat father.

I hope they put him on stage and Howie or Howard rips him a new a-hole. That would make the show almost worth watching.
 
2012-06-06 01:11:14 PM
Yakivegas: He only said that because his real job as a mall SWAT officer is too top secret to talk about.

I heard he once saved the mayor's son from being gay-raped in the bathrooms. I, for one, applaud his service to our country.

/tabi-boots ftw
 
2012-06-06 01:14:44 PM
Jim_Callahan: Before reading the article, I assumed that he was just exaggerating a story about being near an explosive and suffering a mild concussion or something, which I imagine soldiers don't always officially report for the same reason construction workers and lab techs won't: it can get you a medical suspension, which often means "unpaid suspension".
.


I can't speak knowledgably about the reserves or guard, but if you're on active duty, you still get paid whilst recovering from injuries. Not to say soldiers or Marines wouldn't omit injuries, they likely do (for reasons of machismo, stoicism, or plain not wanting to deal with the VA) but probably not for the reasons you stated. It can be really easy to milk the system for supposed injuries, particularly mild TBI where the injuries don't show up explicitly on a scan, if you can prove you were relatively close to an explosion. Working with AMEDD, I saw both extremes of the spectrum.

/off soapbox
 
2012-06-06 01:42:39 PM
G. Tarrant: grinding_journalist: He'll be quietly removed from the competition to avoid controversy. Can't have the network look like they got snookered. I suspect no mention will ever be made of this on air, not even the fact that he's just "not around" anymore.

This. It's easy. They sent him to Vegas, but they send hundreds of acts to Vegas and it's impossible to put all of them on TV during the Vegas rounds. They simply say he got to Vegas and didn't make it past there and was eliminated by the judges, and forget he ever existed.



"A lot of holes in the desert..."

"And a lot of problems are buried in those holes."
 
2012-06-06 01:44:22 PM
MattyFridays: Myrl_Redding: What he did was bad, but not as bad as getting us into a 6 456 week war on false pretense.

Why do people think Iraq and Afghanistan are the same thing?


Where did I say they are the same thing? I know the farking difference. I didn't lose any friends in Iraq.

/USMC
 
2012-06-06 01:47:56 PM
MattyFridays: 1) What is a TBI for non-military folk?

2) How do you put in nine years and only have one month in Afghanistan?


1)traumatic brain injury

2) THIS

/wife of NG soldier who did two year long tours
 
2012-06-06 01:56:33 PM
Myrl_Redding:

Why do people think Iraq and Afghanistan are the same thing?

Where did I say they are the same thing? I know the farking difference. I didn't lose any friends in Iraq.

/USMC


Because this guy's entire story is based around his service in Afghanistan, which, last I checked, we had a pretty good reason to be there.
 
2012-06-06 02:45:14 PM
One thing I think I have come to understand that if a person says they were in the military if they talk about a bunch of badass things they did (storming OBL compound). The ones I am more likely to believe are the ones that tell stories about how they fought boredom. Like when dad tells me how they bribed the Seabees to make them a pool in Vietnam. Or the time he was drunk durning a mortar attack and all he was wearing was his helmet and flak vest. There are pics but Im sure you dont want to see my dad naked.
 
2012-06-06 02:47:15 PM
wruley: After doing some quick research on this guy, it turns out he is ONE BIG DOUCHE BAG.

According to his ex-wife:

He is a liar, cheater, abuser, and deadbeat father.

I hope they put him on stage and Howie or Howard rips him a new a-hole. That would make the show almost worth watching.


I'd like to see it come from Sharon Osbourne. She'd give him a MUCH bigger reaming that Howie Mandel would...
 
2012-06-06 02:55:15 PM
admiral_neckbeard: Jim_Callahan: Before reading the article, I assumed that he was just exaggerating a story about being near an explosive and suffering a mild concussion or something, which I imagine soldiers don't always officially report for the same reason construction workers and lab techs won't: it can get you a medical suspension, which often means "unpaid suspension".
.

I can't speak knowledgably about the reserves or guard, but if you're on active duty, you still get paid whilst recovering from injuries.


That is a true statement... Either active duty pay or active duty combat pay (this is actually called CIP when injured) for the duration of your enlistment time or for CIP deployment time then AD pay for the remainder even if you're unable to perform any duties. Depending on what the medical board decides, a person will either be given an honorable discharge (with full enlistment pay), an honorable retirement (with pension), or allow you to stay enlisted until your period is up. After discharge if you're still injured you will receive a medical pension (basically SS) for life. All medical needs are covered forever including any complications that arise due to any injury inclusive of mental issues. This applies to regular enlisted as well as activated reserves. This also applies to non-combat injuries which are treated exactly the same other than the person injured in an accident would not receive a purple heart.

So financially and medically anyone who has an injury will be set for life.. although you won't be living in a high rise condo in Tampa on that salary.

My granddad was a VA psychologist from after WWII until around the end of Nam and wow he has some stories on what war does to a man's mind. That's the part that continues to be sorely lacking in post-war care.
 
2012-06-06 03:14:40 PM
Hawnkee: Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.

I know that guy! He also pulled me out of a fox hole while the Germans were bombing Perl Harbor.


I didn't correct him, it would just improve his story.

On the other hand, a lot of people wouldn't know that B-52's didn't fly out of any bases in Vietnam.
 
2012-06-06 03:34:45 PM
Rich Cream: Easy, the U.S. has 662 overseas bases in 38 foreign countries. At least.

For various definitions of 'base'.
That is actually very misleading. Many of those are 2 guys in an office at an airport. Or a 6 person contracting office in downtown Izmir, Turkey. Or a housing development. Or an unmanned radio relay tower.
And every Embassy with more than 0 Marine guards.

When Bitburg AB, GE closed, that counted as 20+ 'bases' closed. Physically separated pieces of land, but all attached to what we would think of as one actual base.

Active Duty Military Personnel by Country, Sept 2010
7 Marines in Luxembourg, 4 Air Force guys on Wake Island, or 2 Army guys in Azerbaijan...all counted as a 'base'.
 
2012-06-06 03:40:43 PM
wruley: After doing some quick research on this guy, it turns out he is ONE BIG DOUCHE BAG.

According to his ex-wife:

He is a liar, cheater, abuser, and deadbeat father.

I hope they put him on stage and Howie or Howard rips him a new a-hole. That would make the show almost worth watching.


Howard pretty much ripped the guy a new one this morning on his show. Howard also implied that the guy really milked his sob story for all that it was worth in Vegas, but he couldn't go into detail about it since those shows haven't aired yet.
 
2012-06-06 03:45:49 PM
Relic84: Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.

Maybe he flew the B-52's out of Danang. In the 90's. Hey, that still would've been in Vietnam. You just weren't listening closely enough when he told the story.


I never liked that group. "Love Shack" was especially weak, imo.
 
2012-06-06 03:47:48 PM
ZeroCorpse: Look...

The show is a booked talent variety show. The "contestants" are not contestants. They are booked through talent agencies to perform on the show, and they're told what they're going to do-- even if it's not something in their repertoire. Dancers are told "You're a singer from Hackensack" and jugglers are told "You're a dancer from New York City." They're told to ham it up and play to the audience, and make up a tale about their life.

The "winners" are also booked from talent agencies, but they're actually booked to perform their real act, so the Pendragons (a well-known magic duo) were booked to do stage magic, and the comedians are booked to tell jokes, and so on. They're encouraged to tell their real story.

This guy was telling a story for his character. Was it a lie? Probably. Was anything else on that show real? About 20% of it.

It's not a talent competition. It's a variety show masquerading as a talent competition.


Not true at all. The show is legit. A personal friend of mine went to the finals last year. He was already an established act in his community, but not on a National level. He wasn't booked through anyone but himself. The idea, is free time fill for the Network, revenue generation from advertizing and call in votes, and tour/contract money from the top 10 acts or so who make it through. The million dollar contract is with an NBC affiliated talent agency. It's a televised job application. The last thing NBC wants is to have to negotiate contracts with a 3rd party talent agency, or pay kill fees to buy them out.

Regardless, when all is said and done, my friend, got massive National exposure, a nationwide showcase tour, and huge name recognition. AGT was a huge boost to his career, even if he didn't win. Especially since his act has a really narrow demographic that didn't have a lot of other outlets for BIG exposure.
 
2012-06-06 04:01:59 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: Rich Cream: Easy, the U.S. has 662 overseas bases in 38 foreign countries. At least.

For various definitions of 'base'.
That is actually very misleading. Many of those are 2 guys in an office at an airport. Or a 6 person contracting office in downtown Izmir, Turkey. Or a housing development. Or an unmanned radio relay tower.
And every Embassy with more than 0 Marine guards.

When Bitburg AB, GE closed, that counted as 20+ 'bases' closed. Physically separated pieces of land, but all attached to what we would think of as one actual base.

Active Duty Military Personnel by Country, Sept 2010
7 Marines in Luxembourg, 4 Air Force guys on Wake Island, or 2 Army guys in Azerbaijan...all counted as a 'base'.



I'm not sure if you are disagreeing with my point that one can easily serve ten years in a branch of the armed forces and not spend any time in Afghanistan?
 
2012-06-06 04:03:12 PM
Sandy Duncan's eyeball:
Howard pretty much ripped the guy a new one this morning on his show. Howard also implied that the guy really milked his sob story for all that it was worth in Vegas, but he couldn't go into detail about it since those shows haven't aired yet.


They also mentioned that his ex-wife said that she doesn't remember him having any stutter. I don't know if she was with him at the time that he claims to have been injured and acquired the stutter, but maybe some Farker less lazy than me wants to investigate...

I was rolling my eyes watching, going, "Oh here comes the sappy war hero story!" and was put off by his aww-shucks demeanor. Now at least I get to feel justified in my distaste.
 
2012-06-06 04:05:27 PM
coinspinner: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x226]

These are my awards, Mother. From Army.


emilyandmiranda.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-06 04:08:32 PM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Hawnkee: Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.

I know that guy! He also pulled me out of a fox hole while the Germans were bombing Perl Harbor.

I didn't correct him, it would just improve his story.

On the other hand, a lot of people wouldn't know that B-52's didn't fly out of any bases in Vietnam.


In my experience.. there are only a couple ways you know someone was in 'Nam.

1. They're a parent and you heard their nightmarish screaming in the middle of the night (though no explanations were forthcoming .. ever). Saw a couple pictures of them in fatigues in some shiathole in a jungle or a flightdeck on a carrier but never got an explanation..
2. They're a parent of a friend and your friend tells you that their dad did "something in nam." Or in one case my X-Wifes grandfather who was a gunner on UH-2s and was shot down -4- farking times.. not that you would know it from him. He would walk away if anyone said anything relating to Vietnam.
3. You read their obituary.

Even to this day and my dad is like almost 70 now he refuses to talk about it. The last time I asked .. many years ago, "Dad you were in Nam what was it like?" My dad replied "Yep I was in Vietnam and Murder She Wrote is on so shut up." The only thing I know is that he flew F4s off the Forrestal and got shot down then POWed for awhile. Its kind of sad because I think whatever he went through really defined who he is (generally a drunk asshole). He also hates John McCain.. Something else I've never gotten an explanation for.
 
2012-06-06 04:11:17 PM
Wow...this motherfarker is gonna get crucified. lol

At least it justifies my dislike of him from the get-go.
 
2012-06-06 04:42:27 PM
Rich Cream: I'm not sure if you are disagreeing with my point that one can easily serve ten years in a branch of the armed forces and not spend any time in Afghanistan?

Not disagreeing at all. Very normal in many. many jobs.
Just commenting on the oft quoted 'fact' of "XXX bases in YY countries around the world" includes many things that people would not think of as a 'base'.
 
2012-06-06 04:54:34 PM
I saw a young man at the V.A. Hospital today who suffered severe head trauma while in Iraq. Then I hear about steaming piles of shiat like this and I want to squeeze their farking necks until their eyeballs pop out.
 
2012-06-06 04:56:01 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: Rich Cream: I'm not sure if you are disagreeing with my point that one can easily serve ten years in a branch of the armed forces and not spend any time in Afghanistan?

Not disagreeing at all. Very normal in many. many jobs.
Just commenting on the oft quoted 'fact' of "XXX bases in YY countries around the world" includes many things that people would not think of as a 'base'.



Yeah, I found out how hard it was to get a decent answer to that question.

/almost as if they were being defensive about something
 
2012-06-06 04:58:53 PM
AbiNormal: I saw a young man at the V.A. Hospital today who suffered severe head trauma while in Iraq. Then I hear about steaming piles of shiat like this and I want to squeeze their farking necks until their eyeballs pop out.


The guy you saw can't take advantage of his perks so why shouldn't some poor schlub like me take just a small portion of the credit and get a little action?


/ahh forget it. people take that kind of trolling too seriously
 
2012-06-06 05:05:42 PM
xynix: Inflatable Rhetoric: Hawnkee: Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.

I know that guy! He also pulled me out of a fox hole while the Germans were bombing Perl Harbor.

I didn't correct him, it would just improve his story.

On the other hand, a lot of people wouldn't know that B-52's didn't fly out of any bases in Vietnam.

In my experience.. there are only a couple ways you know someone was in 'Nam.

1. They're a parent and you heard their nightmarish screaming in the middle of the night (though no explanations were forthcoming .. ever). Saw a couple pictures of them in fatigues in some shiathole in a jungle or a flightdeck on a carrier but never got an explanation..
2. They're a parent of a friend and your friend tells you that their dad did "something in nam." Or in one case my X-Wifes grandfather who was a gunner on UH-2s and was shot down -4- farking times.. not that you would know it from him. He would walk away if anyone said anything relating to Vietnam.
3. You read their obituary.

Even to this day and my dad is like almost 70 now he refuses to talk about it. The last time I asked .. many years ago, "Dad you were in Nam what was it like?" My dad replied "Yep I was in Vietnam and Murder She Wrote is on so shut up." The only thing I know is that he flew F4s off the Forrestal and got shot down then POWed for awhile. Its kind of sad because I think whatever he went through really defined who he is (generally a drunk asshole). He also hates John McCain.. Something else I've never gotten an explanation for.


A lot of vets will talk only to other vets, some prefer to keep quiet altogether.
 
2012-06-06 05:26:58 PM
Traumatic brain injury.

He was in the guard. Lots of guard folks don't deploy, go for 1/2/3/6 months, some get to choose how long. Some go longer
 
2012-06-06 06:09:12 PM
Aren't there laws against this kinda thing? Or is that only if you "impersonate" a soldier?
 
2012-06-06 07:58:36 PM
admiral_neckbeard: Jim_Callahan: Before reading the article, I assumed that he was just exaggerating a story about being near an explosive and suffering a mild concussion or something, which I imagine soldiers don't always officially report for the same reason construction workers and lab techs won't: it can get you a medical suspension, which often means "unpaid suspension".
.

I can't speak knowledgably about the reserves or guard, but if you're on active duty, you still get paid whilst recovering from injuries. Not to say soldiers or Marines wouldn't omit injuries, they likely do (for reasons of machismo, stoicism, or plain not wanting to deal with the VA) but probably not for the reasons you stated. It can be really easy to milk the system for supposed injuries, particularly mild TBI where the injuries don't show up explicitly on a scan, if you can prove you were relatively close to an explosion. Working with AMEDD, I saw both extremes of the spectrum.

/off soapbox


From experience, soldiers milk their injuries for all they are worth. Somebody hiding a potential injury from a combat tour would have his entire squad calling him a dumbass for not taking it to the VA. The ONLY thing I can think they might hide is PTSD only because the VA will make you crazier from all the years of therapy they put you through to get your benefits.

Even I'm in the system at 0%, practically nothing wrong with me. Even my hearing was perfect when I got back so i didn't get the standard 10%. Still get to check off "disabled veteran" on job apps. I don't get any bennies though.
 
2012-06-06 08:00:24 PM
onlynativeuknow: He was in the guard. Lots of guard folks don't deploy, go for 1/2/3/6 months, some get to choose how long. Some go longer

I don't think you anything about the National Guard, or the military in general for that matter.
 
2012-06-06 08:01:35 PM
I don't think you know anything about the National Guard, or the military in general for that matter.

Dammit, of course i have to brainfart when I'm trying to be snarky...
 
2012-06-06 09:25:22 PM
"Trust me, the military always has accurate information in its records."

media.masslive.com
 
2012-06-06 10:02:56 PM
xynix: ace in your face:

I'm glad that he is financially stable right now even if recovery is slow. I remember you talking about this a couple years ago and it seems like things are a little stagnant :( Give him my best.

Unfortunately yeah. Hopefully one day he'll come around and realize that life isn't over yet.. I mean he's only 30. But it's just one example of the casualties our people are suffering after they come home. Even the ones that didn't get injured are carrying around scars. Thanks BTW.


Well tell him I think (honestly) he super hot even with his grumpy face on in that pic you posted. ;) at 30 you have a lot of life left injured or not.

/I'm a chick fwiw.
 
2012-06-06 10:32:23 PM
This has probably already been said, but...

He probably got TBI from watching AGT...
 
2012-06-06 10:38:45 PM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Relic84: Inflatable Rhetoric: Tat'dGreaser: Scumbag

I met a lot of guys that claimed to have been in Vietnam. If you asked them too many questions, they'd say "It's classified", even 20 or more years later.

One dufus told me he flew B-52's out of Danang.

Maybe he flew the B-52's out of Danang. In the 90's. Hey, that still would've been in Vietnam. You just weren't listening closely enough when he told the story.

I never liked that group. "Love Shack" was especially weak, imo.


Why do you think they were playing Vietnam?
 
2012-06-07 12:13:36 AM
ChuDogg: onlynativeuknow: He was in the guard. Lots of guard folks don't deploy, go for 1/2/3/6 months, some get to choose how long. Some go longer

I don't think you anything about the National Guard, or the military in general for that matter.


I'm active duty Air Force. I just got back from a deployment. I was working alongside some guardsmen in my unit, I promise you that is how it works. I've deployed twice working with guardsmen, they usually rotate faster, exchange out throughout our deployments
 
2012-06-07 07:56:03 AM
onlynativeuknow: ChuDogg: onlynativeuknow: He was in the guard. Lots of guard folks don't deploy, go for 1/2/3/6 months, some get to choose how long. Some go longer

I don't think you anything about the National Guard, or the military in general for that matter.

I'm active duty Air Force. I just got back from a deployment. I was working alongside some guardsmen in my unit, I promise you that is how it works. I've deployed twice working with guardsmen, they usually rotate faster, exchange out throughout our deployments


I know people who are active duty (a soldier and a sailor) who hadn't been once til they had over 10 years in. For the soldier it was rather incidental since he was actually a really good nco, but I am pretty sure the sailor kept getting left cause he was too much of a dirtbag to go down range. They tend to get rid of as many dirtbags as possible before they leave for deployments.
 
2012-06-07 08:20:18 AM
edmo: "Trust me, the military always has accurate information in its records."

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It does happen, but none of his buddies are coming forward to support him. In fact, the regular guys (not the brass, not a Public Affairs Officer, not an "official" memo) are all saying he caught a non-combat related, ear infection and was sent home.

1. I've never heard a unit have a procedure for identifying incoming RPGs by yelling "grenade." If you tell "GRENADE!' on a patrol, everybody would be looking at their feet for a hand grenade rolling around.

2. You don't send your Supply Sergeant out on patrols. Unless your commander is one of those "Everybody is getting a Combat Action Badge on this tour!" idiots.
 
2012-06-07 11:39:18 PM
onlynativeuknow: I'm active duty Air Force. I just got back from a deployment. I was working alongside some guardsmen in my unit, I promise you that is how it works. I've deployed twice working with guardsmen, they usually rotate faster, exchange out throughout our deployments

(Only Branch to offer 4 month deployments)

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Thanks for that. It took me a while but that was the most subtle troll in the history of fark.
 
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