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2012-06-06 01:13:00 PM  

MightyPez: Contrabulous Flabtraption: If, however, your idea of a good time is going to Vegas clubs with hundreds of fat male dorks then CES does indeed rule.

How is that different than any other con?


CES is such a vanilla con that they need the AVN awards to spice it up.

At least with comic con you can take a cosplayer back to your hotel room to live out a fantasy or two :P.

And last time I went to E3, more than a few journos were tossing money in the pool to see who can bang the hottest booth babe.

The money typically went unclaimed.
 
2012-06-06 01:15:54 PM  

Strategeryz0r: Egoy3k: AdamK: right, not releasing it on PC where most of Remedy's fanbase is had nothing to do with the lack of sales on the 360, or how it got turned into a corridor shooter instead of a sandbox...

Not every damn game needs to be a sandbox, some games are better served by not being sandboxes. Alan Wake was a great game. I'm perfectly happy with Max Payne 3, portal 1 and 2, halflife 1 and 2, and the episodes all being 'corridor shooters' to name just a few. Sometimes narrative is better served with narrow gameplay.

You just listed off some of the best games made in recent years. With Max Payne 3 currently being my favorite game of 2012 thus far.

But apparently everyone who thinks they're awesome is stupid because the game isn't GTAIV or Red Dead Redemption.


i fail to see how the Half Life games or Portal games are "corridor shooters"

and yes, Alan Wake was a corridor shooter with the same "point light, shoot 2-3 times" mechanic used to death, not to mention every level was basically a monster closet with 1 or 2 very simple puzzles

being sandbox and open world would've been much better, especially with Alan Wake's best part - the atmosphere
 
2012-06-06 01:16:32 PM  

Strategeryz0r: Honestly I would like to see a Vietnam shooter finally done right. It's pretty bad that Viet Cong is still the best Vietnam War era shooter I've played to date. I find it so strange that WW2 is an ok subject, modern warfare titles(which we're playing while fighting overseas) are ok. Yet you touch Vietnam as a subject and everyone starts going "is this respectful to the veterans?"


No one likes to play a game where the U.S. was the BAD guy, AND lost. Gulf of Tonkin was fabricated by a corrupt administration looking to undermine a colony that had just earned hard-won independence from the French. The rich sent the poor off to fight the war in a corrupt draft. The corrupt military poisoned its own troops with Agent Orange and lied about it. In the name of democracy, the U.S. forces torched villages, destroyed forests, massacred civilians and otherwise dove into the muck with the same fervor as the Chinese. And all the while, the right was insisting that anyone who didn't support this massively corrupt clusterfark was a traitor. We lost not because we lacked the capability or resolve, but because the left finally convinced the middle that we were fighting the wrong war.

Hate to threadjack, but Vietnam vets don't need a game; they need a goddamn apology.
 
2012-06-06 01:18:14 PM  

Strategeryz0r: And last time I went to E3, more than a few journos were tossing money in the pool to see who can bang the hottest booth babe.


Last time I went there was a bounce house with a hot chick in in trying to get someone to jump in it with her. Most of the guys just stood around watching.

I went in because you don't turn down an invite to go into a bounce house. I'm pretty sure that's in the bible.
 
2012-06-06 01:18:48 PM  

Strategeryz0r:
What they're trying with Black Ops 2 does sound interesting. I'm just afraid they're minuscule changes at best. What they don't realize is you can include new game modes all you want. The core gameplay is what needs to be refreshed. It is beyond stale at this point, and they need to figure out a way to breath some new life into it.


We're fighting our own defense robots in the future is the plot? Wow, that is just not compelling. I openly laughed during the trailer. This will be one I won't even check out and I am done with the series for now, especially after MW3s multiplayer. I needed a reason to kick that habit and find newer games though.
 
2012-06-06 01:22:39 PM  

keepitcherry: Hale-Bopp: keepitcherry: Strategeryz0r:
Resident Evil 6 - I remember when these games tried to scare you... What's that? You like this new direction? STFU and get off my lawn. They should just remake RE and RE2 with the controls and perspective from RE4/5. Then kill the franchise. It's jumped the shark.


Thank you. Been saying this for years! Why did the game I love turn into some bullshiat Matrix-esque action game with zero suspense or horror? What is the deal with the shiatty Wesker character who won't die? Can't we just get a Resident Evil 0 or Resident Evil remake ala Gamecube? These newer games don't deserve to carry the RE name.

I don't know why they didn't just follow their own lead with Revelations and make 6 similar to that. That game is brilliant. It's got the modern controls, but with all the horror and intensity intact. Put over 80 hours into it already.

I'm a little out of the loop - is Revelations the 3DS game? And is it back to the original format? If so I might need to borrow a DS just to play it.


Yeah, it's exclusively for the 3DS. Mind you, it's not your typical RE game. The horror is back in form (you feel isolated most of the time, creatures pop out, bosses are creepy as hell), but the game itself takes place in various locations (though for the most part, you're on a ship in the middle of the ocean) utilizing an episodic format which is new to the series. It works though! It's fun, scary, intense and extremely engaging. Highly recommend you try before you buy if you're at all wary about it, but it really doesn't disappoint in the slightest.
 
2012-06-06 01:22:47 PM  

bhcompy: spman: Also color me pissed that next to nothing has been announce for the Vita

Color me unsurprised. The Vita is a great thing, but it's in a market that won't bear it. The vast populace is happy with $0.99 Angry Birds on their smartphone. I wish this wasn't the case, but no one is going to make those huge monetary investments into something like that. People would rather spend that money on an iPad rather than a Vita


the lack of big announcements is more sony than it is dedicated handhelds, Nintendo is having a second conference dedicated just to the 3ds this E3 while Sony dedicated more time to the Wonderbook than to the Vita... which sucks as the Vita is a great gaming device
 
2012-06-06 01:23:03 PM  

AdamK: i fail to see how the Half Life games or Portal games are "corridor shooters"

and yes, Alan Wake was a corridor shooter with the same "point light, shoot 2-3 times" mechanic used to death, not to mention every level was basically a monster closet with 1 or 2 very simple puzzles

being sandbox and open world would've been much better, especially with Alan Wake's best part - the atmosphere


Wait wait.. So repeating the same action to kill an enemy is what is defined as a corridor shooter? You need to check your definitions. Half Life games are corrdior shooters because they're linear games, where you are lead down a series of typically tight indoor corridors, dispatching enemies while moving from point A to point B. Call of Duty, another example of a corridor shooter.

Portal on the other hand is more of a corridor puzzle game. Tight, indoor, corridors filled with mostly linear puzzles(there's really only 1 - 3 methods of solving any given puzzle).

And if "point light, shoot 2-3 times" is a bad thing. Then point smg, pull trigger, move to next target, pull trigger(a la HALF LIFE) is equally repetitive. So you're argument is invalid, as every game boils down to repeating the same thing over and over while the difficulty gets progressively ramped up until the game ends.

Allow me to point you to the wikipedia page.

Where remedy explains that the decision to make the game more linear had nothing to do with the console.

Originally, Remedy planned Bright Falls as a free-roaming, sandbox-style open world city, similar to those seen in the Grand Theft Auto series. After trying this idea for six months, the team decided to scrap it, because it interfered with the pacing and storytelling they intended to deliver in a thriller game.[

So the developers of the game wholeheartedly disagree that a sandbox was better. If you dislike it, might I recommend making your own game to prove them wrong? They wanted a more story focused game, and that's what they made.
 
2012-06-06 01:23:19 PM  

AdamK:
i fail to see how the Half Life games or Portal games are "corridor shooters"


Its noted that Valve is given even more credit in their games because there is a solid line that Freeman must follow but it never truly feels like you're in the corridor. Great level design hides the fact that it is a corridor shooter and it hides it very well. It really comes down to how you define "corridor shooter" which is not to be confused with a rail shooter.
 
2012-06-06 01:24:37 PM  

thecpt: Strategeryz0r:
What they're trying with Black Ops 2 does sound interesting. I'm just afraid they're minuscule changes at best. What they don't realize is you can include new game modes all you want. The core gameplay is what needs to be refreshed. It is beyond stale at this point, and they need to figure out a way to breath some new life into it.

We're fighting our own defense robots in the future is the plot? Wow, that is just not compelling. I openly laughed during the trailer. This will be one I won't even check out and I am done with the series for now, especially after MW3s multiplayer. I needed a reason to kick that habit and find newer games though.


No I meant the game modes they're including. They have a few tweaks to the formula that sounded interesting, I just can't remember them off the top of my head.

I agree though, the story sounds pants on head retarded.
 
2012-06-06 01:29:33 PM  
That BO2 trailer reminded me of just how done I am with heavily scripted, dude-bro, war-time corridor games where every few minutes the game plays itself with minimal input from the player.
 
2012-06-06 01:32:39 PM  

Hale-Bopp: keepitcherry: Hale-Bopp: keepitcherry: Strategeryz0r:
Resident Evil 6 - I remember when these games tried to scare you... What's that? You like this new direction? STFU and get off my lawn. They should just remake RE and RE2 with the controls and perspective from RE4/5. Then kill the franchise. It's jumped the shark.


Thank you. Been saying this for years! Why did the game I love turn into some bullshiat Matrix-esque action game with zero suspense or horror? What is the deal with the shiatty Wesker character who won't die? Can't we just get a Resident Evil 0 or Resident Evil remake ala Gamecube? These newer games don't deserve to carry the RE name.

I don't know why they didn't just follow their own lead with Revelations and make 6 similar to that. That game is brilliant. It's got the modern controls, but with all the horror and intensity intact. Put over 80 hours into it already.

I'm a little out of the loop - is Revelations the 3DS game? And is it back to the original format? If so I might need to borrow a DS just to play it.

Yeah, it's exclusively for the 3DS. Mind you, it's not your typical RE game. The horror is back in form (you feel isolated most of the time, creatures pop out, bosses are creepy as hell), but the game itself takes place in various locations (though for the most part, you're on a ship in the middle of the ocean) utilizing an episodic format which is new to the series. It works though! It's fun, scary, intense and extremely engaging. Highly recommend you try before you buy if you're at all wary about it, but it really doesn't disappoint in the slightest.


Wow that sounds awesome. Is there any way to hook up a 3DS to play on your TV? If not its not a deal breaker - thanks for the heads up!
 
2012-06-06 01:33:46 PM  

Strategeryz0r: AdamK: i fail to see how the Half Life games or Portal games are "corridor shooters"

and yes, Alan Wake was a corridor shooter with the same "point light, shoot 2-3 times" mechanic used to death, not to mention every level was basically a monster closet with 1 or 2 very simple puzzles

being sandbox and open world would've been much better, especially with Alan Wake's best part - the atmosphere

Wait wait.. So repeating the same action to kill an enemy is what is defined as a corridor shooter? You need to check your definitions. Half Life games are corrdior shooters because they're linear games, where you are lead down a series of typically tight indoor corridors, dispatching enemies while moving from point A to point B. Call of Duty, another example of a corridor shooter.

Portal on the other hand is more of a corridor puzzle game. Tight, indoor, corridors filled with mostly linear puzzles(there's really only 1 - 3 methods of solving any given puzzle).

And if "point light, shoot 2-3 times" is a bad thing. Then point smg, pull trigger, move to next target, pull trigger(a la HALF LIFE) is equally repetitive. So you're argument is invalid, as every game boils down to repeating the same thing over and over while the difficulty gets progressively ramped up until the game ends.

Allow me to point you to the wikipedia page.

Where remedy explains that the decision to make the game more linear had nothing to do with the console.

Originally, Remedy planned Bright Falls as a free-roaming, sandbox-style open world city, similar to those seen in the Grand Theft Auto series. After trying this idea for six months, the team decided to scrap it, because it interfered with the pacing and storytelling they intended to deliver in a thriller game.[

So the developers of the game wholeheartedly disagree that a sandbox was better. If you dislike it, might I recommend making your own game to prove them wrong? They wanted a more story focused game, and that's what they made.


i define a corridor shooter as a game that has no ambition to do anything beyond the video game construct of a linear level + a defined quantity of enemies to shoot in between checkpoints

as much as Remedy might've thought abandoning sandbox for better pacing would help, what they came up with isn't superior, it's just "mediocre" and "repetitive"

mind you i bought the game when it first came out, enjoyed it for the ambition Remedy had with the story and settings, but didn't like execution

the DLC was much better

as for making my own game - why bother when i can just not buy Alan Wake 2 if it's more of the same? vote with your money and all that
 
2012-06-06 01:35:27 PM  

dragonchild: No one likes to play a game where the U.S. was the BAD guy, AND lost.


I post this, then remember all the Vietnam movie-based games that came out on NES (Platoon, Flight of the Intruder, Rambo, etc.) In any case I remember my peers buying these games but caring little about the history behind them. Vietnam was an exciting stage because it was hideously gritty.

So, I take it back. I think there are two other issues at work today. First, Vietnam just isn't as culturally relevant anymore, so young gamers (which have their parents buy these FPS games for them in droves) just aren't interested. That's an awful thing to say to anyone who was there, but it didn't re-draw large swaths of several continents like WW2 nor is it as recent as America's forays in the Middle East. (If that sounds tragic, well, join the club the Korean war vets have been in.) Second, the world is much more connected and not even the Germans would contest the idea that the Nazis were bad, so WW2 games are "safe" for the global market. In contrast, Vietnam is more controversial, so there are some tough decisions regarding budget, approach and target market that make it much more risky. Play it safe and you're behind the curve, go all in and young gamers may not care (and/or you'll spark outrage). It's a toxic proposal to investors.
 
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2012-06-06 01:42:53 PM  

Biv: While he made some good points, i love the cries of the PC gamer that thinks they are still relevant.


Your favorite console sucks.

As does your blog, if you have one.
 
2012-06-06 01:52:32 PM  

AdamK: i define a corridor shooter as a game that has no ambition to do anything beyond the video game construct of a linear level + a defined quantity of enemies to shoot in between checkpoints


You just defined Half Life. It's a linear game, with a defined quantity of enemies to shoot between checkpoints. Story presentation does not factor in to defining a corridor shooter.
 
2012-06-06 01:55:21 PM  
I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?

I'm sure I was easier to please in the 80s when I was younger and "3D" games were exciting and new, but I've yet to have many games blow my mind like they did in the past. To this day, I still think Monkey Island is the best game I've ever played (and yes I've played it again recently).
 
2012-06-06 01:59:42 PM  

Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?


For adventure, if you heard the Naughty Dawg praise earlier Uncharted 2 was just incredible. 3 wasn't as good, and it is a third person shooter but it feels like an intense adventure. Good comedic elements and awesome locals.
 
2012-06-06 02:00:56 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Max Payne 3 is also one of my favorite games so far this year.


Agreed. There's something so wonderful about how much of a f*ckup he is. And the game play and cut-scenes are both top notch. I haven't finished single player yet, so I haven't tried multiplayer. After only getting 6 hours of SP out of CoD games, getting 10+ is really nice.
 
2012-06-06 02:03:40 PM  

Strategeryz0r: AdamK: i define a corridor shooter as a game that has no ambition to do anything beyond the video game construct of a linear level + a defined quantity of enemies to shoot in between checkpoints

You just defined Half Life. It's a linear game, with a defined quantity of enemies to shoot between checkpoints. Story presentation does not factor in to defining a corridor shooter.


Careful bro. You're inviting some weapons grade nerd rage with that kind of statement.
 
2012-06-06 02:04:34 PM  

Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?

I'm sure I was easier to please in the 80s when I was younger and "3D" games were exciting and new, but I've yet to have many games blow my mind like they did in the past. To this day, I still think Monkey Island is the best game I've ever played (and yes I've played it again recently).


Clearly you haven't been playing enough games then.

Want a good story?

Half life, 1, 2 and episodes 1 and 2
Portal 1 and 2
Mass Effect (yeah yeah ending sucked whatever)
Max Payne 1 2 and 3
System Shock 2
Red Dead Redemption
Deus Ex
Metal Gear Solid 1 2 3 and 4


Want adventure?
Minecraft (on the PC)
TES Morrowwind, Oblivion, Skyrim
Fallout 1 2 and 3 Fallout new Vegas
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Drakes Fortune

That's just off the top of my head I could go on for a long time and into great detail about these and many more titles that have adventure, a good story or both.
 
2012-06-06 02:05:18 PM  

thecpt: Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?


For adventure, if you heard the Naughty Dawg praise earlier Uncharted 2 was just incredible. 3 wasn't as good, and it is a third person shooter but it feels like an intense adventure. Good comedic elements and awesome locals.


I feel the easiest way to describe it is that it's basically Indiana Jones, but if he were played by Bruce Campbell instead of Harrison Ford.
 
2012-06-06 02:07:19 PM  

thecpt: For adventure, if you heard the Naughty Dawg praise earlier Uncharted 2 was just incredible. 3 wasn't as good, and it is a third person shooter but it feels like an intense adventure. Good comedic elements and awesome locals.


My biggest issue with Drakes Fortune is that 2 is so vastly superior to the others that it almost ruins the trilogy but they are all very playable and a lot of fun.
 
2012-06-06 02:07:22 PM  

keepitcherry: Hale-Bopp: keepitcherry: Hale-Bopp: keepitcherry: Strategeryz0r:
Resident Evil 6 - I remember when these games tried to scare you... What's that? You like this new direction? STFU and get off my lawn. They should just remake RE and RE2 with the controls and perspective from RE4/5. Then kill the franchise. It's jumped the shark.


Thank you. Been saying this for years! Why did the game I love turn into some bullshiat Matrix-esque action game with zero suspense or horror? What is the deal with the shiatty Wesker character who won't die? Can't we just get a Resident Evil 0 or Resident Evil remake ala Gamecube? These newer games don't deserve to carry the RE name.

I don't know why they didn't just follow their own lead with Revelations and make 6 similar to that. That game is brilliant. It's got the modern controls, but with all the horror and intensity intact. Put over 80 hours into it already.

I'm a little out of the loop - is Revelations the 3DS game? And is it back to the original format? If so I might need to borrow a DS just to play it.

Yeah, it's exclusively for the 3DS. Mind you, it's not your typical RE game. The horror is back in form (you feel isolated most of the time, creatures pop out, bosses are creepy as hell), but the game itself takes place in various locations (though for the most part, you're on a ship in the middle of the ocean) utilizing an episodic format which is new to the series. It works though! It's fun, scary, intense and extremely engaging. Highly recommend you try before you buy if you're at all wary about it, but it really doesn't disappoint in the slightest.

Wow that sounds awesome. Is there any way to hook up a 3DS to play on your TV? If not its not a deal breaker - thanks for the heads up!


No, there isn't, but just turn the lights out, put some headphones on and get sucked in. After a short bit of time, you likely won't be concerned with that.
 
2012-06-06 02:17:52 PM  

Egoy3k: thecpt: For adventure, if you heard the Naughty Dawg praise earlier Uncharted 2 was just incredible. 3 wasn't as good, and it is a third person shooter but it feels like an intense adventure. Good comedic elements and awesome locals.

My biggest issue with Drakes Fortune is that 2 is so vastly superior to the others that it almost ruins the trilogy but they are all very playable and a lot of fun.


3 was so close to being at least a good follow up (DAT PLANE part) and yeah its still a lot of fun. The only problem with two is it takes a while to get the proverbial rock chasing Indiana Jones rolling. The first level is around an hour and a half long and requires pure stealth and tranq guns. If you just tell someone to play it (especially a softcore gamer) they generally lose interest just before the game cranks it from 1 to 11.
 
2012-06-06 02:20:45 PM  

Egoy3k: Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?

I'm sure I was easier to please in the 80s when I was younger and "3D" games were exciting and new, but I've yet to have many games blow my mind like they did in the past. To this day, I still think Monkey Island is the best game I've ever played (and yes I've played it again recently).

Clearly you haven't been playing enough games then.

Want a good story?

Half life, 1, 2 and episodes 1 and 2
Portal 1 and 2
Mass Effect (yeah yeah ending sucked whatever)
Max Payne 1 2 and 3
System Shock 2
Red Dead Redemption
Deus Ex
Metal Gear Solid 1 2 3 and 4


Want adventure?
Minecraft (on the PC)
TES Morrowwind, Oblivion, Skyrim
Fallout 1 2 and 3 Fallout new Vegas
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Drakes Fortune

That's just off the top of my head I could go on for a long time and into great detail about these and many more titles that have adventure, a good story or both.


To add to your list:

Syberia
Amnesia, The Dark Decent
The Longest Journey
Grey Matter

I could go on for a while.
 
2012-06-06 02:25:44 PM  

thecpt: Egoy3k: thecpt: For adventure, if you heard the Naughty Dawg praise earlier Uncharted 2 was just incredible. 3 wasn't as good, and it is a third person shooter but it feels like an intense adventure. Good comedic elements and awesome locals.

My biggest issue with Drakes Fortune is that 2 is so vastly superior to the others that it almost ruins the trilogy but they are all very playable and a lot of fun.

3 was so close to being at least a good follow up (DAT PLANE part) and yeah its still a lot of fun. The only problem with two is it takes a while to get the proverbial rock chasing Indiana Jones rolling. The first level is around an hour and a half long and requires pure stealth and tranq guns. If you just tell someone to play it (especially a softcore gamer) they generally lose interest just before the game cranks it from 1 to 11.


In indiana jones terms, Drakes Fortune is temple of doom, Among Thieves is Last Crusade, and Drakes Deception is Raiders.

All are good games, but two was just incredible. It nailed every note and left us gasping for more. It really shook things up, and you can tell the new Tomb Raider is trying to clone it's look and feel.
 
2012-06-06 02:27:10 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Burr: While I agree that PC gaming is a shell of it's former self...the existence of Blizzard throws your statement out of the water.

What do you mean? The success of Diablo III all but guarantees always-on connections for future games, even for single player ones. Devs are realizing that they can take more and more control away from the consumer, and PC gaming is ripe for it.

All Blizzard did was usher in a new era of crappy DRM


Blizzard doesn't exist anyway. They're owned by Activision. And their product has gone to shiat since the Burning Crusade.
 
2012-06-06 02:29:26 PM  

Egoy3k: Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?

I'm sure I was easier to please in the 80s when I was younger and "3D" games were exciting and new, but I've yet to have many games blow my mind like they did in the past. To this day, I still think Monkey Island is the best game I've ever played (and yes I've played it again recently).

Clearly you haven't been playing enough games then.

Want a good story?

Half life, 1, 2 and episodes 1 and 2
Portal 1 and 2
Mass Effect (yeah yeah ending sucked whatever)
Max Payne 1 2 and 3
System Shock 2
Red Dead Redemption
Deus Ex
Metal Gear Solid 1 2 3 and 4


Want adventure?
Minecraft (on the PC)
TES Morrowwind, Oblivion, Skyrim
Fallout 1 2 and 3 Fallout new Vegas
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Drakes Fortune

That's just off the top of my head I could go on for a long time and into great detail about these and many more titles that have adventure, a good story or both.


Let's not forget Baldur's Gate 2 (coming out with a 1&2 Enhanced Edition this summer)
Planescape Torment
Jade Empire

I've been gaming since the floppy days as well, cut my teeth on Ultima, Wizardry, The Bard's Tale, Sierra classics like Quest for Glory (Hero's Quest) and Space Quest, etc... I still buy a new game every month or two and find more to love with each coming year. This year it was ME3 (sans ending), Xenoblade Chronicles, and currently Dragon's Dogma. Pandora's Tower & The Last Story are next on my list with Borderlands 2 this fall.
 
2012-06-06 02:31:22 PM  

PsyLord: The last time I got suckered into a zombie game by its trailer was Dead Island, and that game was very underwhelming. Because of this, I'm skeptical about The Last of Us.


Last of Us is more like the road or children of men then a zombie game. The zombies are just the catalyst for the setting, the adversaries seem to be both them, and other survivors. The gameplay looks very, very brutal. I mean hell, at one point the player beat someone to death by bashing his head open against a dresser edge.

I get the feeling it will be a game that makes you think just how far your willing to go to survive in a hellish environment, at the cost of other people. Few zombie games take it from that sort of angle, most just use zombies as easy targets we put no feeling or care into killing.
 
2012-06-06 02:33:23 PM  

thecpt: 3 was so close to being at least a good follow up (DAT PLANE part) and yeah its still a lot of fun. The only problem with two is it takes a while to get the proverbial rock chasing Indiana Jones rolling. The first level is around an hour and a half long and requires pure stealth and tranq guns. If you just tell someone to play it (especially a softcore gamer) they generally lose interest just before the game cranks it from 1 to 11.


3 had some definite high points The Lawrence of Arabia bit was inspired but fell short, the gunfight on the derelict ship graveyard with the storm rocking the boats was awesome and only lasted 2 minutes....it's like they had great ideas then got lazy executing them.


Oh yeah and I forgot inFamous 1 and 2 from my list earlier. Great games.
 
2012-06-06 02:36:21 PM  

Egoy3k: thecpt: 3 was so close to being at least a good follow up (DAT PLANE part) and yeah its still a lot of fun. The only problem with two is it takes a while to get the proverbial rock chasing Indiana Jones rolling. The first level is around an hour and a half long and requires pure stealth and tranq guns. If you just tell someone to play it (especially a softcore gamer) they generally lose interest just before the game cranks it from 1 to 11.

3 had some definite high points The Lawrence of Arabia bit was inspired but fell short, the gunfight on the derelict ship graveyard with the storm rocking the boats was awesome and only lasted 2 minutes....it's like they had great ideas then got lazy executing them.


Oh yeah and I forgot inFamous 1 and 2 from my list earlier. Great games.


I thought the sinking cruise ship was amazing myself. But yeah, overall it just didn't have that epic feel of adventure 2 had.
 
2012-06-06 02:43:30 PM  

Egoy3k:
Oh yeah and I forgot inFamous 1 and 2 from my list earlier. Great games.


Can't the ps network get cracked so I can get inFamous 2 for free?

Also for the list:
KOTOR 1 (if you like star wars)
Batman Arkham Asylum and City (if you like the goddamn batman)
 
2012-06-06 02:48:06 PM  

thecpt: Batman Arkham Asylum and City (if you like the goddamn batman)


Damn I forgot those two! They are both Easily in the top ten of all the games I have played in the past few years.
 
2012-06-06 02:50:03 PM  

Egoy3k: thecpt: Batman Arkham Asylum and City (if you like the goddamn batman)

Damn I forgot those two! They are both Easily in the top ten of all the games I have played in the past few years.


Yeah, they kind of came out of no where, but pretty much nailed how a batman game should look and feel.
 
2012-06-06 02:51:41 PM  

thecpt: Egoy3k:
Oh yeah and I forgot inFamous 1 and 2 from my list earlier. Great games.

Can't the ps network get cracked so I can get inFamous 2 for free?

Also for the list:
KOTOR 1 (if you like star wars)
Batman Arkham Asylum and City (if you like the goddamn batman)


Further addendum:
Witcher 1 and 2
 
2012-06-06 02:51:44 PM  

Flappyhead: Strategeryz0r: AdamK: i define a corridor shooter as a game that has no ambition to do anything beyond the video game construct of a linear level + a defined quantity of enemies to shoot in between checkpoints

You just defined Half Life. It's a linear game, with a defined quantity of enemies to shoot between checkpoints. Story presentation does not factor in to defining a corridor shooter.

Careful bro. You're inviting some weapons grade nerd rage with that kind of statement.


He's right though. Half Life and even Half Life 2 are corridor shooters. They are the opposite of sandbox games-the game makes you one direction and one direction only to proceed. There is very minimal backtracking or free exploration in either game (even though the illusion of such exists in both).

They are just corridor shooters done very well.
 
2012-06-06 02:52:18 PM  

Yuri Futanari: Quest for Glory (Hero's Quest)


Pick Nose


Also, since I had borrowed both from a friend at the same time (and played them like crazy), I have to post this:

www.popscreen.com
 
2012-06-06 02:53:10 PM  

Egoy3k: Strategeryz0r: Welcome to the "I have good taste in games" club.

I do the same thing but with Castlevania Symphony of the Night.


Seconded.

/Lords of Shadow blew chunks
//Why do you need to riff off of God of War
///Castlevania doesn't need to riff off of anything
 
2012-06-06 02:53:46 PM  
Watching the Star Wars:TOR bit made my inner star wars fan die a little inside. Its the same thing we've seen for years. Slap the star wars on top of some other game, call it a day, watch the cash flow. As a few have pointed out, I've been playing PC games since the floppy disk really was floppy. I yearn for a new X-Wing game so bad. The flight sim category has become a joke and this is someplace where Lucasarts would have little to no competition and a guaranteed hit on their hands. But what do I know. Im just a consumer who buys the product.
 
2012-06-06 03:02:37 PM  

MightyPez: Actually it varies from 1-10W, depending on the PC. Powering off completely will use less than 1W. Even if it isn't about money, what good reason do you have to waste energy by powering a desktop all the time, even in sleep mode?


I don't like the boot.
 
2012-06-06 03:06:13 PM  

trappedspirit: MightyPez: Actually it varies from 1-10W, depending on the PC. Powering off completely will use less than 1W. Even if it isn't about money, what good reason do you have to waste energy by powering a desktop all the time, even in sleep mode?

I don't like the boot.


I remote access mine as I'm not home 55hours a week at least and might need a file.
 
2012-06-06 03:06:50 PM  
This year's E3 may have been terrible, but this year's Kickstarter has been farking AWESOME!

Wasteland II (Wasteland was the precursor to the original Fallout games)

Shadowrun Returns


Carmageddon: Reincarnation

SpaceVenture (from the guys who made the old Sierra Space Quest games)


The publishers need to die. Places like Kickstarter put the developers directly in touch with the people who want to play their games
 
2012-06-06 03:09:18 PM  

Klivian: fluffy2097: Sullyville: Do they still allow booth babes or no?

PAX is the one that doesn't allow booth babes. It was made to help feel women feel more comfortable.

E3 this year had bare animated breasts. It was the only part of E3 coverage anyone actually wanted to watch.

PAXEast had booth babes. If I were at home I could upload the picture of the Lolipop Chainsaw booth (a game I have absolutely no interest in)


Not really. She became mildly controversial right away, and was asked to change. PAX East didn't want her costume there. (It was only controversial because her costume accurately depicted the main character of the game, something that is usually allowed.)
 
2012-06-06 03:16:49 PM  

Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?

I'm sure I was easier to please in the 80s when I was younger and "3D" games were exciting and new, but I've yet to have many games blow my mind like they did in the past. To this day, I still think Monkey Island is the best game I've ever played (and yes I've played it again recently).


The number of people in here replying to you not knowing what you meant by "adventure games" is a little sad.
 
2012-06-06 03:17:57 PM  

jayphat: Watching the Star Wars:TOR bit made my inner star wars fan die a little inside. Its the same thing we've seen for years. Slap the star wars on top of some other game, call it a day, watch the cash flow. As a few have pointed out, I've been playing PC games since the floppy disk really was floppy. I yearn for a new X-Wing game so bad. The flight sim category has become a joke and this is someplace where Lucasarts would have little to no competition and a guaranteed hit on their hands. But what do I know. Im just a consumer who buys the product.


BRING BACK SWOTL... and dont make it some arcady bullshiat. That game's campaign mode(S) were FANTASTIC.


Also.... Lack of Half-Life 2 EP3 or Half-Life 3, Homeworld 3 (farking get your dick out of your ass Relic) and uh....... Ricochet 2
 
2012-06-06 03:18:46 PM  

jayphat: trappedspirit: MightyPez: Actually it varies from 1-10W, depending on the PC. Powering off completely will use less than 1W. Even if it isn't about money, what good reason do you have to waste energy by powering a desktop all the time, even in sleep mode?

I don't like the boot.

I remote access mine as I'm not home 55hours a week at least and might need a file.


Mine is a media server for my whole household as well as a gaming PC and a work PC. It basically does everything and doesn't bottleneck while multitasking. So yeah it uses a lot of power when it's being used and not a whole lot less when sitting dormant but it's sort of the central nervous system of my whole house. It stays on unless I'm on vacation.
 
2012-06-06 03:19:15 PM  

Flappyhead: Strategeryz0r: AdamK: i define a corridor shooter as a game that has no ambition to do anything beyond the video game construct of a linear level + a defined quantity of enemies to shoot in between checkpoints

You just defined Half Life. It's a linear game, with a defined quantity of enemies to shoot between checkpoints. Story presentation does not factor in to defining a corridor shooter.

Careful bro. You're inviting some weapons grade nerd rage with that kind of statement.


Oh don't get me wrong. I adore half life. It's one of my favorite game series' of all time. But to say it's not a corridor shooter is ignorant to the truth at best. It is about as linear as a shooter can get, but it's a damn fine linear shooter. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 
2012-06-06 03:19:27 PM  

Xenomech: This year's E3 may have been terrible, but this year's Kickstarter has been farking AWESOME!

Wasteland II (Wasteland was the precursor to the original Fallout games)

Shadowrun Returns

Carmageddon: Reincarnation

SpaceVenture (from the guys who made the old Sierra Space Quest games)


The publishers need to die. Places like Kickstarter put the developers directly in touch with the people who want to play their games


All are smaller games, and none have the budgets the big titles get. Even doublefine only pulled in 3 million, where as something like GTA4 cost what, 50 million?

What it can do is get famous creators back in the saddle, to prove they still can turn out hits. That could cause the private investors and such to start looking their way more, and give them more leeway with publishers.
 
2012-06-06 03:21:16 PM  

HalEmmerich: Chimpasaurus: I've been playing video games since they were on a 5.25" floppy disk, and they haven't gotten much better. Sure the graphics have, but where the hell are the stories or the adventure games? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I'm so sick of all the military games. I've never been terribly into FPS to begin with, but do I really need 9 Call of Duty's?

I'm sure I was easier to please in the 80s when I was younger and "3D" games were exciting and new, but I've yet to have many games blow my mind like they did in the past. To this day, I still think Monkey Island is the best game I've ever played (and yes I've played it again recently).

The number of people in here replying to you not knowing what you meant by "adventure games" is a little sad.


How are any of my list of adventure games not adventure games?
 
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