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(Some Seller Of Molotov Cocktails)   Russian General magnanimously concedes that Finland is free to make their own decisions regarding state policy that have been approved by the Politburo   (yle.fi) divider line 35
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2012-06-06 08:17:02 AM
Policy options include pony trekking, or camping, or just watching TV.
 
2012-06-06 08:30:29 AM
Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.
 
2012-06-06 08:31:52 AM
Poor Finland, they only get 20 years free of Soviet dicking in their personal affairs.
 
2012-06-06 09:01:14 AM
I would've thought that day 1 at Russian General school would cover leaving Finland the fark alone.
 
2012-06-06 09:06:53 AM
Link

Would like a word with this general.
 
2012-06-06 09:09:58 AM
Finland showed during WWII how well and with very little they could create piles of Russian dead. True, they "lost" in the sense that they ceded reparations and territory, but retained their overall independence in spite of a huge disparity in size, wealth and resources. Canada fighting America to a bloody, disproportionate military standstill while having Winnipeg occupied would be analogous.

The same could not be said of what would become the entire Eastern Bloc.
 
2012-06-06 09:18:16 AM
Gee. Who would imagine that two groups of dour, pugnacious drunks who have lived next door to each other since time out of mind would not get along?
 
2012-06-06 09:35:27 AM
The good thing is that with the rise of the new Soviet Union, we will finally have an enemy with a country again!
 
2012-06-06 10:22:47 AM

ronaprhys: Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.


Finland still lost the war.
 
2012-06-06 10:39:22 AM

Mock26: ronaprhys: Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.

Finland still lost the war.


Finland should have ceased to exist. The point, you've missed it.
 
2012-06-06 11:39:42 AM

Mock26: ronaprhys: Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.

Finland still lost the war.


I'm guessing you don't know how much it cost Russia to "win". My thoughts are-don't fark with Finland.
 
2012-06-06 11:54:49 AM

logic523: Policy options include pony trekking, or camping, or just watching TV.


Or sack lunch in the hall.
 
2012-06-06 11:57:02 AM
That's why so many race car drivers come from Finland, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT
 
2012-06-06 12:24:35 PM
Suomi Sauna Sisu
 
2012-06-06 01:08:00 PM
Why doesn't Russia just join NATO?
They'll get into the cool parties, there very own Super Secret Spy Decoder Ring.
 
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2012-06-06 02:34:11 PM

ronaprhys: Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.


Well, it's not like they lost. Sure Finland survived, but they lost one of their major cities.
 
2012-06-06 02:59:25 PM
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...would like a word with this so-called "general."

/SATW FTW!
 
2012-06-06 03:43:46 PM

zerkalo: Suomi Sauna Sisu


Viitu boyga
 
2012-06-06 04:31:56 PM
The ghost of a certain Finnish sniper would like to have a word with that Russian general... preferably from 600 meters away, after being made material again for about a minute or so.
 
2012-06-06 04:45:26 PM

Intoxoman: Mock26: ronaprhys: Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.

Finland still lost the war.

I'm guessing you don't know how much it cost Russia to "win". My thoughts are-don't fark with Finland.


I used to live in Finland, and actually went on winter maneuvers with some Finns while I was there. Yes, it will be costly to fark with Finns. But, the point of fact still stands that they lost their two wars with the Soviets.
 
2012-06-06 04:48:08 PM

Valiente: Mock26: ronaprhys: Because that went so well for the Russians the last time they dicked with Finland.

Be very afraid.

Finland still lost the war.

Finland should have ceased to exist. The point, you've missed it.


Nope. I got the point. I was just pointing out the fact that they lost the Winter War. They also lost the Continuation War the following year. The only war from that era that they did win was the Lapland War of 1944-1945.
 
2012-06-06 05:02:52 PM
You have a freakish definition of "lost a war", Mockie.

Do you think black is actually white, too?
 
2012-06-06 05:05:32 PM
BTW, f*ck the Russian general.
 
2012-06-06 06:52:58 PM
peace out dudes.
nothing to see here, move along
another russian coldwar relic says the facts how they are. The only threat to FDF and Finland will be Russia. No news there. I wouldn't be any happier until last of these soviet era generals kick the bucket and i just do hope the next generation of russian officers don't have their heads so far up their asses.
 
2012-06-06 07:04:40 PM
oh and Kittypie... catnip:P
 
2012-06-07 12:56:18 AM

Kittypie070: You have a freakish definition of "lost a war", Mockie.

Do you think black is actually white, too?


Check your history, pussypie. The side with the most deaths is not always the side that loses.
 
2012-06-07 07:26:28 AM

Kittypie070: BTW, f*ck the Russian general.


I think it's time Comrade General had a discussion with Comrades Tokarov and Kalashnikov.
 
2012-06-07 12:27:40 PM
I don't get where Mockie's logic, if you can call it that, is coming from.

Meh.

I shall now enjoy Ramsay's very graciously offered catnip.

www.dogtagart.com
 
2012-06-07 12:44:29 PM
http://uralica.com/finnliv.htm

Yep, it's only a blog.

However:

Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev, a native Ukranian, remembers very well.

"I had firsthand knowledge of what happened, including the strategic miscalculation on our side. The very day the war with Finland started, I was in Moscow with Stalin. He didn't even feel the need to call a meeting. He was sure all we had to do was fire a few artillery rounds and the Finns would capitulate. Instead, they rejected our terms and resisted. There was a false sense of confidence on our side; a few days would pass and we would polish off the Finns. But that didn't happen either. Many of our troops were ground up by the Finns...Stalin lost his nerve after the defeat of our troops in the war against Finland. He probably lost whatever confidence he had that our army could cope with Hitler. Stalin never said so, but I came to this conclusion watching his behavior."

"We soon realized that we had bitten off more than we could chew. We found ourselves faced with good steel reinforced fortifications and effectively deployed artillery. The Mannerheim line was impregnable. Our casualties mounted alarmingly. In the winter it was decided to bypass the Karelian Isthmus and to strike a blow from Lake Ladoga [Laatokka] to the north where there were no fortifications. But when we tried to strike from the rear, we found ourselves in an even more difficult situation than before. The Finns, who are a people of the North and very athletic, can ski almost before they can walk. Our army encountered very mobile ski troops armed with automatic high velocity rifles. We tried to put our own troops on skiis too, but it wasn't easy for ordinary, untrained Red Army soldiers to fight on skiis. We started intensively to recruit professional sportsmen. There weren't many around. We had to bring them from Moscow and the Ukraine as well as from Leningrad. We gave them a splendid send-off. Everyone was confident that our sportsmen would return victorious, and they left in high spirits. Poor fellows, they were ripped to shreds. I don't know how many came back alive...And so the war with Finland ended. We started to analyze the reasons why we were so badly prepared and why the war had cost us so dearly. I'd say we lost as many as a million lives...There's some question about whether we had any legal or moral right for our actions against Finland. Of course we didn't have legal right. As far as morality was concerned, our desire to protect ourselves was ample justification in our own eyes."


This is called "losing" against the Russians??
 
2012-06-07 05:26:49 PM

Kittypie070: I don't get where Mockie's logic, if you can call it that, is coming from.

Meh.

I shall now enjoy Ramsay's very graciously offered catnip.

[www.dogtagart.com image 500x253]


Not logic, Pussypie. It is historical fact! The Finns lost both of their wars with the Soviet Union.
 
2012-06-07 07:25:26 PM

Mock26: Kittypie070: I don't get where Mockie's logic, if you can call it that, is coming from.

Meh.

I shall now enjoy Ramsay's very graciously offered catnip.

[www.dogtagart.com image 500x253]

Not logic, Pussypie. It is historical fact! The Finns lost both of their wars with the Soviet Union.




Everyone: Chasing a ball out into traffic is a bad idea, kid. Remember the boy down the street who did that, and ended up losing an arm?

Mock26: But he got the ball!

Everyone: You seem to be missing the point.

Mock26: No, I know, losing an arm is bad, I'm just saying he succeeded in retrieving his ball. Overall the mission was a win.

Everyone: ....What.

Mock26: It's historical fact! You can't deny it!


/just amusing myself
 
2012-06-07 07:47:07 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Mock26: Kittypie070: I don't get where Mockie's logic, if you can call it that, is coming from.

Meh.

I shall now enjoy Ramsay's very graciously offered catnip.

[www.dogtagart.com image 500x253]

Not logic, Pussypie. It is historical fact! The Finns lost both of their wars with the Soviet Union.



Everyone: Chasing a ball out into traffic is a bad idea, kid. Remember the boy down the street who did that, and ended up losing an arm?

Mock26: But he got the ball!

Everyone: You seem to be missing the point.

Mock26: No, I know, losing an arm is bad, I'm just saying he succeeded in retrieving his ball. Overall the mission was a win.

Everyone: ....What.

Mock26: It's historical fact! You can't deny it!


/just amusing myself


Russians could afford the losses more than the Finns could, so it does not matter if they lose an arm retrieving their ball. They had plenty more arms to replace it with.
 
2012-06-07 11:24:24 PM

Mock26: Russians could afford the losses more than the Finns could, so it does not matter if they lose an arm retrieving their ball. They had plenty more arms to replace it with.


They only came home with 11% of what they went to Finland to obtain, too. But that, like the rest of these comments about the Russians winning meager territorial gains, has approximately nothing to do with the point of referencing the Winter War in response to this headline.
 
2012-06-08 10:57:29 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Mock26: Russians could afford the losses more than the Finns could, so it does not matter if they lose an arm retrieving their ball. They had plenty more arms to replace it with.

They only came home with 11% of what they went to Finland to obtain, too. But that, like the rest of these comments about the Russians winning meager territorial gains, has approximately nothing to do with the point of referencing the Winter War in response to this headline.


They also came away with 30% of Finland's economic resources
 
2012-06-09 02:16:09 AM

Mock26: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Mock26: Russians could afford the losses more than the Finns could, so it does not matter if they lose an arm retrieving their ball. They had plenty more arms to replace it with.

They only came home with 11% of what they went to Finland to obtain, too. But that, like the rest of these comments about the Russians winning meager territorial gains, has approximately nothing to do with the point of referencing the Winter War in response to this headline.

They also came away with 30% of Finland's economic resources


LOL
 
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