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(Baltimore Sun)   Irony DEFCON Level 5: Politician uses police database to spy on cop; Irony DEFCON Level 3: Politician spies on NSA cop; Irony DEFCON 1: NSA guy calls ACLU for help   (baltimoresun.com) divider line 43
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2012-06-06 09:23:00 AM
www.addictinginfo.org

I don't see the irony here!
 
2012-06-06 09:24:04 AM
This story is fascinating, and I can't think of a single thing to say about it... so

Maybe Leopold was just trying to figure out what happened to the Snowden's of yesteryear?
 
2012-06-06 09:24:35 AM
Bububut if you have nothing to hide...
 
2012-06-06 09:27:11 AM
This almost sounds like a communist KGB tactic
 
2012-06-06 09:27:57 AM
WTF does some low level county "executive" need a protective detail for?
 
2012-06-06 09:28:10 AM
A politician using eavesdropping powers to spy on his political opposition, his business competitors or anyone he wants dirt on; instead of for keeping us safe form the threat without? Inconceivable!
 
2012-06-06 09:37:01 AM
This headline molests children.
 
2012-06-06 09:42:24 AM

Maud Dib: WTF does some low level county "executive" need a protective detail for?


Because they can get away with it. In Baltimore, most of the exec positions come with a city-paid car and driver. It's farking ridiculous.
 
2012-06-06 09:54:49 AM
Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.
 
2012-06-06 09:58:04 AM
And this, boys and girls, is why some of us harp on privacy and the Fourth Amendment.
 
2012-06-06 09:59:26 AM
DEFCON levels go from 1 to 5, 5 being the most severe.

//just sayin'
 
TWX
2012-06-06 09:59:54 AM
Ever notice how the American Civil Liberties Union, arguably an entity whose mission is to attempt to prevent intrusion into our liberty by government and business, finds itself more at odds with governments and officials associated with the elephant than with the jackass?

Makes you wonder if some claims of small government from some officials are just blatant doublespeak, doesn't it?

I'm also reminded of the translator machine from the film Mars Attacks!, which translated everything that the aliens were saying opposite of what they actually said. Most people didn't catch that it wasn't that the aliens were lying, it's that the machine was defective and no one picked up on this.
 
TWX
2012-06-06 10:00:57 AM

Rowena: DEFCON levels go from 1 to 5, 5 being the most severe.

//just sayin'


Nope.

Thank you, try again...
 
2012-06-06 10:01:01 AM

KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.


Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.
 
2012-06-06 10:04:12 AM

Rowena: DEFCON levels go from 1 to 5, 5 being the most severe.

//just sayin'


Please tell me you're joking. If not you're a farking moron.

/just sayin'
 
2012-06-06 10:08:11 AM

Dougie AXP: Rowena: DEFCON levels go from 1 to 5, 5 being the most severe.

//just sayin'

Please tell me you're joking. If not you're a farking moron.

/just sayin'


I was going to say...good on subby for the proper use of the DEFCON levels.
 
2012-06-06 10:09:34 AM
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
 
2012-06-06 10:10:46 AM

KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.


I was about to tell you where you can go, but your name says you've figured that out.
 
2012-06-06 10:14:02 AM
Look politicians get indicted all the time it's like a background noise. HOWEVER I'm surprised what a crazy turn this is, this seems a little over the top..

/Also, NSA has cops?
//What?
 
2012-06-06 10:15:17 AM

max_pooper: KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.

Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.


Your name fits. Keep dig yourself out of that shait, you'll get there.
 
2012-06-06 10:16:06 AM
NSA Police Officers are the guys that guard the building. I fail to see the irony.
 
TWX
2012-06-06 10:16:55 AM

Posh Naranek: Look politicians get indicted all the time it's like a background noise. HOWEVER I'm surprised what a crazy turn this is, this seems a little over the top..

/Also, NSA has cops?
//What?


Cop might just be a short way of saying an NSA officer with the authority to do in-person investigations or make occasional arrests.
 
2012-06-06 10:18:12 AM

IrateShadow: Maud Dib: WTF does some low level county "executive" need a protective detail for?

Because they can get away with it. In Baltimore, most of the exec positions come with a city-paid car and driver. It's farking ridiculous.


The yearly subscription rate is pretty modest, but perhaps the magazine would cut rhe city a deal if they renew in bulk...
 
2012-06-06 10:20:57 AM

CthulhuCalling: IrateShadow: Maud Dib: WTF does some low level county "executive" need a protective detail for?

Because they can get away with it. In Baltimore, most of the exec positions come with a city-paid car and driver. It's farking ridiculous.

The yearly subscription rate is pretty modest, but perhaps the magazine would cut rhe city a deal if they renew in bulk...


Good thought, I'll pass that along. One way or another they have to keep abreast of the latest in getaway cars, y'see. Baltimore crime and all that.
 
2012-06-06 10:35:21 AM
Leopold is getting support from the council though.......

When County Executive John R. Leopold was indicted in March on charges of misuse of his police detail - including asking officers to ferry him to sexual encounters with his girlfriend - Grasso wasn't shy.

"If he can still work it like that at 69-years-old, good for him," he told reporters.

Grasso said Leopold hasn't been convicted yet and criticized the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland for its quest to uncover dossiers Leopold allegedly kept on political enemies.

"You can tell the ACLU to jump in a creek, and I'll give them a nice stinky one to jump into," he said.

Link
 
2012-06-06 10:38:35 AM

TWX: Makes you wonder if some claims of small government from some officials are just blatant doublespeak, doesn't it?


Wonder? I think we know that's exactly what it is.
 
2012-06-06 10:38:53 AM

Maud Dib: WTF does some low level county "executive" need a protective detail for?


In Maryland think of the county executive as the 'governer' of the county. In this case a county with a population bigger than Wyoming.

In this case not only has Leopold been caught, but the police chief received a vote of no confidence from the rank and file.
 
2012-06-06 10:55:39 AM

TWX: Ever notice how the American Civil Liberties Union, arguably an entity whose mission is to attempt to prevent intrusion into our liberty by government and business, finds itself more at odds with governments and officials associated with the elephant than with the jackass?


That may have something to do with their inability to use the number "2".
 
2012-06-06 12:07:13 PM

Rowena: DEFCON levels go from 1 to 5, 5 being the most severe.

//just sayin'


Pet peeve of yours?
 
2012-06-06 12:07:27 PM
DEFCON headline trifecta in play?
 
2012-06-06 12:21:30 PM

KimNorth: max_pooper: KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.

Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.

Your name fits. Keep dig yourself out of that shait, you'll get there.


The only shiat here is coming out of your mouth. The first amendment is not just for people whom you agree with. Equal protection under the law means just that. The entire basis of our legal system is built on every person accused of a crime shall have a fair impartial jury and not just when it's convenient.

The typical anti-ACLU moran believes only those who they deem worthy should have access to justice. Thankfully, there are enough dedicated people in the country willing join the ACLU to work against morans like you to protect the freedoms of all Americans.
 
2012-06-06 02:40:46 PM

KimNorth: max_pooper: KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.

Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.

Your name fits. Keep dig yourself out of that shait, you'll get there.



Worst comeback ever, and to boot you're a fool if your ACLU-hate makes you so biased that you would choose to side with this scumbag (wiki):

On March 2, 2012, Leopold was indicted on multiple counts of misconduct in office for using his police security detail to investigate political opponents, remove campaign signs, and to transport him to public places to engage in sexual liaisons with women.[1]

On March 7, 2012, David Holway, President of the International Brotherhood of Police Officers held a press conference in Annapolis to demand the immediate resignation of Leopold and his Chief of Police, James Teare due to the information contained in the indictment
.


If your filter is "aclu involved, side with the other guy," something tells me you're not concerned with logic and rational decision making.
 
2012-06-06 02:54:31 PM

max_pooper: KimNorth: max_pooper: KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.

Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.

Your name fits. Keep dig yourself out of that shait, you'll get there.

The only shiat here is coming out of your mouth. The first amendment is not just for people whom you agree with. Equal protection under the law means just that. The entire basis of our legal system is built on every person accused of a crime shall have a fair impartial jury and not just when it's convenient.

The typical anti-ACLU moran believes only those who they deem worthy should have access to justice. Thankfully, there are enough dedicated people in the country willing join the ACLU to work against morans like you to protect the freedoms of all Americans.


You know you're losing this exchange, right? Not because you're wrong, or he's right... but because he's playing a different game. Where the only rule is to ruin whatever experience you were planning on having today.
 
2012-06-06 03:39:51 PM

BeesNuts: max_pooper: KimNorth: max_pooper: KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.

Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.

Your name fits. Keep dig yourself out of that shait, you'll get there.

The only shiat here is coming out of your mouth. The first amendment is not just for people whom you agree with. Equal protection under the law means just that. The entire basis of our legal system is built on every person accused of a crime shall have a fair impartial jury and not just when it's convenient.

The typical anti-ACLU moran believes only those who they deem worthy should have access to justice. Thankfully, there are enough dedicated people in the country willing join the ACLU to work against morans like you to protect the freedoms of all Americans.

You know you're losing this exchange, right? Not because you're wrong, or he's right... but because he's playing a different game. Where the only rule is to ruin whatever experience you were planning on having today.


I was going to stick an ice core driller up my hoo-hah today, can KimNorth come help me ruin that experience?
 
2012-06-06 04:11:28 PM
It's inevitable. The ill-considered Bush 9/11 response and subsequent support for it (Patriot Acts, policy creep) are fundamentally creating a United States of Panopticon with huge amounts of surveillance data and thousands of new positions (eg, fusion centers plus employees, DoHS plus their 200,000 employees) with various levels of access to the data --- it appears it's statistically inevitable that it's going to be used improperly by individuals or groups with access. One of the ways that's likely is for political advantage, as in this story. Economic advantage is, or is likely to be, another. Settling personal scores is also not improbable, I'd bet. Thanks, Bush administration and Congress and voters.
 
2012-06-06 06:37:53 PM

KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.


Yeah, civil liberties are for farking pussies.

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

upload.wikimedia.org

www.tolland.org
 
2012-06-06 07:02:35 PM
Didn't read the article. Don't need to.

Anybody who works for the NSA is guilty. Just farkin' shoot him in the head and be done with it.
 
2012-06-06 07:09:14 PM

Rindred: And this, boys and girls, is why some of us harp on privacy and the Fourth Amendment.


This.

NSA employees should not be entitled to any legal protections whatsoever.

After all, it's illegal for us to defend ourselves against them. Why should they get to act with impunity?

/ no you cannot has a due process
// eat a bucket of cawk
 
2012-06-06 11:55:55 PM
I though NSA employess were either killers, code breakers or secretaries.

Since when are they police?
 
2012-06-07 01:14:20 AM

TWX: Posh Naranek: Look politicians get indicted all the time it's like a background noise. HOWEVER I'm surprised what a crazy turn this is, this seems a little over the top..

/Also, NSA has cops?
//What?

Cop might just be a short way of saying an NSA officer with the authority to do in-person investigations or make occasional arrests.


The NSA "owns" the Ft Meade police force.
 
2012-06-07 01:18:07 AM
NSA: "Help, I'm drowning!"
ACLU: "Here's an anchor, catch!"
 
2012-06-07 01:26:13 AM

Enemabag Jones: I though NSA employess were either killers, code breakers or secretaries.

Since when are they police?


No NSA employee is a "killer" per se. That's movie talk.

NSA is SIGINT, ELINT, crypto and now network security. The NSA "closely works with" a number of military units that collect signal intelligence on the ground, sea or air where they don't have listening sites (think 'Pueblo') but those units are geek squads and not combat troops. The NSA also has field agents, oddly enough, that are sent in 'on site' to collect SIGINT or ELINT at great risk to life and limb, these guys are not supposed to carry arms and are generally treated 'harshly' if caught since they're spies, you end up a name on the wall in the entry foyer. A lot of those are retired echoes or echo combinations that are approached after they ETS.

However, for whatever reason, historically it has been the privilege of the NSA to manage the Ft Meade police force. This guy was a Ft Meade cop.
 
2012-06-07 08:31:13 AM

Gyrfalcon: BeesNuts: max_pooper: KimNorth: max_pooper: KimNorth: Whatever side the ACLU is on is the one at fault.
Don't need to read story don't care what political party said belongs.


//yes, sometimes the ACLU gets it right but batting 1 out of 100 is bad odds.

Aww it looks like another moron that think the only their rights deserve to be protected.

ALCU has done more to protect freedom in this country than the combined efforts of every single member of the GOP after Lincoln.

Your name fits. Keep dig yourself out of that shait, you'll get there.

The only shiat here is coming out of your mouth. The first amendment is not just for people whom you agree with. Equal protection under the law means just that. The entire basis of our legal system is built on every person accused of a crime shall have a fair impartial jury and not just when it's convenient.

The typical anti-ACLU moran believes only those who they deem worthy should have access to justice. Thankfully, there are enough dedicated people in the country willing join the ACLU to work against morans like you to protect the freedoms of all Americans.

You know you're losing this exchange, right? Not because you're wrong, or he's right... but because he's playing a different game. Where the only rule is to ruin whatever experience you were planning on having today.

I was going to stick an ice core driller up my hoo-hah today, can KimNorth come help me ruin that experience?


This is the first complete sentence I've read today. Just thought you might like to know that. Cause it's immaculate.
 
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