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(Yahoo)   Report of the first doctor to reach the mortally wounded Abraham Lincoln at the Ford Theater found in the National Archives   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 73
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2012-06-06 07:56:43 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

/I wonder if there was anyone there named "Jim," though...
 
2012-06-06 08:46:28 AM  
The penmanship is excellent but the thinness of the strokes make it a bit tricky to read. Here's the Leale Report (Page 1 of 22)
 
2012-06-06 08:49:08 AM  
There's no easy way to click from one page to the next, but all of the scanned pages are here: Papers of Abraham Lincoln. You can search the page for "Leale" and it's down toward the bottom of the page.
 
2012-06-06 08:52:49 AM  
There was probably nothing that the doctor could've done (considering the derringer's shot essentially richocheted inside Lincoln's skull before stopping), but he probably didn't really help matters by sticking his unwashed fingers into Lincoln's skull and feeling around in the President's brain.
 
2012-06-06 09:07:07 AM  
"The President has been shot!"

"Thanks. I'll have a brandy and water."
 
2012-06-06 09:23:02 AM  

RexTalionis: There was probably nothing that the doctor could've done (considering the derringer's shot essentially richocheted inside Lincoln's skull before stopping), but he probably didn't really help matters by sticking his unwashed fingers into Lincoln's skull and feeling around in the President's brain.


I'll have to find the citation, but I recall reading quite the opposite. The bullet was fat and slow and the wound might well have been survivable if they had just bandaged him up and left things alone.
 
2012-06-06 09:24:04 AM  
#moviedoc got to hlp shot prez. hiz popcrn wuz awesme
 
2012-06-06 09:24:50 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

How was the play?
 
2012-06-06 09:25:02 AM  

RexTalionis: There was probably nothing that the doctor could've done (considering the derringer's shot essentially richocheted inside Lincoln's skull before stopping), but he probably didn't really help matters by sticking his unwashed fingers into Lincoln's skull and feeling around in the President's brain.


Yeah, he shoulda run back to his office to get a scalpel and then scrubbed first.
 
2012-06-06 09:26:12 AM  
found him paralyzed, comatose and leaning against his wife

If he was comatose, how did he know he was paralyzed? And why was Lincoln leaning against the doctor's wife?
 
2012-06-06 09:29:03 AM  
Or, as he is better known, The Fat Fingered Fool.

/unashamed plug for Destiny of the Republic/Millard
//about Garfield's idiot doctor, but a great read
 
2012-06-06 09:30:15 AM  
I hope the report says why the doctor has been in the National Archives for so long.
 
2012-06-06 09:30:46 AM  

BurnShrike:
If he was comatose, how did he know he was paralyzed? And why was Lincoln leaning against the doctor's wife?


The only reason the doctor was there was because his wife dragged him so she could get a picture with the president, and he didn't want to hear her complain how she never got the chance, and if only if she married a better doctor, for the rest of his life.
 
2012-06-06 09:32:13 AM  
xanadian

bones.jpg

/I wonder if there was anyone there named "Jim," though...


Came here for this ^. The the article proves it was Mcoy's ancestor

"Dr. Charles Leale ordered brandy and water to be brought immediately."
 
2012-06-06 09:36:15 AM  
What's always intruiged me about the Lincoln assassination is that the bullet extracted from his skull did not match the gun recovered from John Wilkes Booth. Booth's gun was a Philadelphia Derringer, a small percussion handgun that was the popular pocket pistol of the time. It was a packed powder gun that fired a lead ball, popular with magician who performed the old "catch a bullet" trick because its barrel was short and easily tipped to unload. The bullet taken from Lincoln's skull was "lost" shortly after, but the sketches by serveral firsthand witnesses show not a lead ball, but a bullet that matches the munition used in modern 9mm pistols. Academic historians, unable to explain the discrepancy, largely ignore the facts and discount the drawings as fabrications.

Another document of particular interest in this case was found amongst Lincoln's private papers. Amazingly, Lincoln planned to reverse the Emancipation Proclamation in an effort to appease powerful Northern industrialists who were realizing that slave labor aligned more with their interests than they originally imagined. Lincoln's announcement was to occur the day after the play performance. The timing cannot be ignored, though like other contradictions in American history, it's often dismissed as forgery.

What's also confounding is that outside the theater, where the assassin must've waited for the play to begin, groundskeepers found three to four odd looking objects cast on the ground. From drawings that have since disappeared, it's clear that the objects are Marlboro menthols whose filters are considerably wetter than you'd expect if a thin lipped person had smoked them.

The facts suggest several possible conclusions, though I believe that history has been, and is actively being, manipulated by powerful parties at the highest levels of our government.
 
2012-06-06 09:36:35 AM  
the Ford's Theater exhibit is pretty amazing. there are tons of cool things to see in DC, I'd put this at the top 5.
 
2012-06-06 09:37:46 AM  

spentmiles: What's always intruiged me about the Lincoln assassination is that the bullet extracted from his skull did not match the gun recovered from John Wilkes Booth. Booth's gun was a Philadelphia Derringer, a small percussion handgun that was the popular pocket pistol of the time. It was a packed powder gun that fired a lead ball, popular with magician who performed the old "catch a bullet" trick because its barrel was short and easily tipped to unload. The bullet taken from Lincoln's skull was "lost" shortly after, but the sketches by serveral firsthand witnesses show not a lead ball, but a bullet that matches the munition used in modern 9mm pistols. Academic historians, unable to explain the discrepancy, largely ignore the facts and discount the drawings as fabrications.

Another document of particular interest in this case was found amongst Lincoln's private papers. Amazingly, Lincoln planned to reverse the Emancipation Proclamation in an effort to appease powerful Northern industrialists who were realizing that slave labor aligned more with their interests than they originally imagined. Lincoln's announcement was to occur the day after the play performance. The timing cannot be ignored, though like other contradictions in American history, it's often dismissed as forgery.

What's also confounding is that outside the theater, where the assassin must've waited for the play to begin, groundskeepers found three to four odd looking objects cast on the ground. From drawings that have since disappeared, it's clear that the objects are Marlboro menthols whose filters are considerably wetter than you'd expect if a thin lipped person had smoked them.

The facts suggest several possible conclusions, though I believe that history has been, and is actively being, manipulated by powerful parties at the highest levels of our government.


So what you're saying is that there was a second gunman?
 
2012-06-06 09:39:53 AM  
Updated for 2012:

Blood is coming out #president#bustedcaps
 
2012-06-06 09:42:03 AM  
I have to wonder how many people are going to go watch Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter and think it's based on something that happened.

It just seems like some people have trouble distinguishing fact from fiction. People think the Titanic was just a movie. Or they know it happened but think Jack Dawson was a real person.

This Lincoln Vampire movie is going to confuse people, and it will be amusing.
 
2012-06-06 09:43:24 AM  

BurnShrike: spentmiles: Extremely long winded for a "Citation needed" reply.

So what you're saying is that there was a second gunman?


Was there grass? Was it on some sort of knoll? WAS...THERE....GRASS?
 
2012-06-06 09:45:36 AM  

s1ugg0: BurnShrike: spentmiles: Extremely long winded for a "Citation needed" reply.

So what you're saying is that there was a second gunman?

Was there grass? Was it on some sort of knoll? WAS...THERE....GRASS?


We know what happens next:

www.unc.edu
 
2012-06-06 09:50:55 AM  
Well, as we all learned from 2001-2009, America can get by with a president who is technically brain dead
 
2012-06-06 09:51:02 AM  
Cue [I_hate_theatre.jpg]
 
2012-06-06 09:52:53 AM  

John Buck 41: RexTalionis: There was probably nothing that the doctor could've done (considering the derringer's shot essentially richocheted inside Lincoln's skull before stopping), but he probably didn't really help matters by sticking his unwashed fingers into Lincoln's skull and feeling around in the President's brain.

Yeah, he shoulda run back to his office to get a scalpel and then scrubbed first.


Aseptic technique is not possible in such situations. Hell, even in a modern ER is isn't always possible to follow strict protocol in a serious emergency. People just throw on a par of surgical gloves and get to work. Worrying about infection comes later.
 
2012-06-06 09:52:57 AM  

TheOther: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x271]


I thought he met the Third Doctor first.

i232.photobucket.com

/Timey-wimey
 
2012-06-06 09:54:33 AM  

spentmiles: it's clear that the objects are Marlboro menthols whose filters are considerably wetter than you'd expect if a thin lipped person had smoked them


golf clap
 
2012-06-06 09:55:03 AM  

spentmiles: The bullet taken from Lincoln's skull was "lost" shortly after, but the sketches by serveral firsthand witnesses show not a lead ball, but a bullet that matches the munition used in modern 9mm pistols .


That is one magic bullet.

/back...and to the left
 
2012-06-06 09:56:31 AM  
fc05.deviantart.net
 
2012-06-06 09:56:39 AM  
Fun fact: My wife's great (great x ?) uncle treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg and ankle in a barn not too long afterwards, without knowing who he was, or what he'd done.
 
2012-06-06 09:58:19 AM  
Plus, there were vampires


/little known historical fact.
 
2012-06-06 10:00:19 AM  

JSieverts: Well, as we all learned from 2001-2009, America can get by with a president who is technically brain dead


images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-06-06 10:00:28 AM  
My dad recently had an opportunity to chronograph a Philadelphia Derringer pretty much identical to the one Booth used to shoot Lincoln.

Even with a full load of FFFFg black powder, it only developed 17 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. For perspective, a modern .25 ACP cartridge from a comparable sized barrel develops about 65 ft/lbs of energy.

In fact, if you wanted to replicate the energy used to kill Lincoln, you could use one of the more powerful air guns on the market.

That's how *PUNY* that gun is.
 
2012-06-06 10:03:46 AM  
"I commenced to examine his head (as no wound near the shoulder was found) and soon passed my fingers over a large firm clot of blood situated about one inch below the superior curved line of the occipital bone," Leale reported. "The coagula I easily removed and passed the little finger of my left hand through the perfectly smooth opening made by the ball."

ewwww
 
2012-06-06 10:04:34 AM  
Abraham presents today with an enormous hole in his head...
 
2012-06-06 10:04:41 AM  

mynamebackwards: spentmiles: it's clear that the objects are Marlboro menthols whose filters are considerably wetter than you'd expect if a thin lipped person had smoked them

golf clap


You sure they weren't Morley cigarettes? I thought he smoked Morleys.
 
2012-06-06 10:06:42 AM  

spentmiles: What's always intruiged me about the Lincoln assassination is that the bullet extracted from his skull did not match the gun recovered from John Wilkes Booth. Booth's gun was a Philadelphia Derringer, a small percussion handgun that was the popular pocket pistol of the time. It was a packed powder gun that fired a lead ball, popular with magician who performed the old "catch a bullet" trick because its barrel was short and easily tipped to unload. The bullet taken from Lincoln's skull was "lost" shortly after, but the sketches by serveral firsthand witnesses show not a lead ball, but a bullet that matches the munition used in modern 9mm pistols. Academic historians, unable to explain the discrepancy, largely ignore the facts and discount the drawings as fabrications.

Another document of particular interest in this case was found amongst Lincoln's private papers. Amazingly, Lincoln planned to reverse the Emancipation Proclamation in an effort to appease powerful Northern industrialists who were realizing that slave labor aligned more with their interests than they originally imagined. Lincoln's announcement was to occur the day after the play performance. The timing cannot be ignored, though like other contradictions in American history, it's often dismissed as forgery.

What's also confounding is that outside the theater, where the assassin must've waited for the play to begin, groundskeepers found three to four odd looking objects cast on the ground. From drawings that have since disappeared, it's clear that the objects are Marlboro menthols whose filters are considerably wetter than you'd expect if a thin lipped person had smoked them.

The facts suggest several possible conclusions, though I believe that history has been, and is actively being, manipulated by powerful parties at the highest levels of our government.


Hee hee. But where was the grassy knoll?
 
2012-06-06 10:11:20 AM  

grinding_journalist: Fun fact: My wife's great (great x ?) uncle treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg and ankle in a barn not too long afterwards, without knowing who he was, or what he'd done.


I'll bet his name was Mudd after that.
 
2012-06-06 10:12:18 AM  

Mad Scientist: spentmiles: The bullet taken from Lincoln's skull was "lost" shortly after, but the sketches by serveral firsthand witnesses show not a lead ball, but a bullet that matches the munition used in modern 9mm pistols .

That is one magic bullet.

/back...and to the left


They did have conical bullets back then. In fact, the standard military load used a conical bullet, not round ball, and revolver cartridges for cap and ball revolvers (made out of paper or foil) commonly used conical bullets. Here is a recreation of a typical cartridge of the Civil War era, set against Colt's original patent for them:

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-06 10:12:23 AM  
media.desura.com

/Oi! That Booth was a roight sneaky git. Real orks don't act like bloody 'umies and sneak up behind to git they teef they want!
 
2012-06-06 10:12:33 AM  
Glad nobody is complaining about the 3D photo of the doctor.
Even in 1865 people knew that 3D was not just a passing fad.
 
2012-06-06 10:14:02 AM  

dittybopper: Here is a recreation of a typical cartridge of the Civil War era,


I should have said "typical *FOIL* cartridge of the Civil War era", but the foil cartridges actually date back to the 1840s.
 
2012-06-06 10:14:32 AM  

spentmiles: What's always intruiged me about the Lincoln assassination is that the bullet extracted from his skull did not match the gun recovered from John Wilkes Booth. Booth's gun was a Philadelphia Derringer, a small percussion handgun that was the popular pocket pistol of the time. It was a packed powder gun that fired a lead ball, popular with magician who performed the old "catch a bullet" trick because its barrel was short and easily tipped to unload. The bullet taken from Lincoln's skull was "lost" shortly after, but the sketches by serveral firsthand witnesses show not a lead ball, but a bullet that matches the munition used in modern 9mm pistols. Academic historians, unable to explain the discrepancy, largely ignore the facts and discount the drawings as fabrications.

Another document of particular interest in this case was found amongst Lincoln's private papers. Amazingly, Lincoln planned to reverse the Emancipation Proclamation in an effort to appease powerful Northern industrialists who were realizing that slave labor aligned more with their interests than they originally imagined. Lincoln's announcement was to occur the day after the play performance. The timing cannot be ignored, though like other contradictions in American history, it's often dismissed as forgery.

What's also confounding is that outside the theater, where the assassin must've waited for the play to begin, groundskeepers found three to four odd looking objects cast on the ground. From drawings that have since disappeared, it's clear that the objects are Marlboro menthols whose filters are considerably wetter than you'd expect if a thin lipped person had smoked them.

The facts suggest several possible conclusions, though I believe that history has been, and is actively being, manipulated by powerful parties at the highest levels of our government.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-06-06 10:18:43 AM  

SmackLT: The penmanship is excellent but the thinness of the strokes make it a bit tricky to read. Here's the Leale Report (Page 1 of 22)


What's wrong with this dude? Just use Times New Roman. About an 11 font would have been much better. Geez
 
2012-06-06 10:19:39 AM  

BurnShrike: So what you're saying is that there was a second gunman?


Sounds like he's implying that there was a time traveling gunman who was, *ahem*, a person who would greatly benefit from the emancipation proclamation remaining in place.

In order to refrain from being biased, as historians we must all give these facts equal weight in any future discussions of Lincoln.
 
2012-06-06 10:22:56 AM  

grinding_journalist: Fun fact: My wife's great (great x ?) uncle treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg and ankle in a barn not too long afterwards, without knowing who he was, or what he'd done.


Her name is Mudd?
 
2012-06-06 10:39:39 AM  

Posh Naranek: grinding_journalist: Fun fact: My wife's great (great x ?) uncle treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg and ankle in a barn not too long afterwards, without knowing who he was, or what he'd done.

Her name is Mudd?


I actually work with a decendent of Harvey Mudd, her last name is, yes, you guessed it..Mudd. Pretty, pretty woman.
 
2012-06-06 10:40:21 AM  
spentmiles, you are on fire lately!
 
2012-06-06 10:44:06 AM  

Posh Naranek: Her name is Mudd?


Part of her extended family is, yes.

Her last name is now mine, being married and all. One of the prized family possessions is the doctor bag from which the supplies were procured to do the treatment.
 
2012-06-06 10:45:25 AM  

grinding_journalist: Fun fact: My wife's great (great x ?) uncle treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg and ankle in a barn not too long afterwards, without knowing who he was, or what he'd done.


Ask her to tell her uncle/cousin Roger hi, extend my deepest sympathies on the death of his wife and tell him that we all missed him at the Grigs' last Kentucky Derby party.
 
2012-06-06 10:46:32 AM  
Is it wrong that I read the headline and thought of William Hartnell?
 
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