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2012-06-05 08:52:46 PM
Good. Throw them off the edge of the Earth.
 
2012-06-05 08:58:08 PM
Texas is still far worse, they've Seoulless.
 
2012-06-05 09:46:44 PM
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2012-06-05 10:58:25 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Texas is still far worse, they've Seoulless.


(* golf clap *)
 
2012-06-05 11:34:23 PM
The whole world is going to Hell in a handbasket...
 
2012-06-05 11:35:09 PM
No one is to know the Japanese descended from Korean farmers who got lost on a 3 hour boat tour.
 
2012-06-05 11:36:49 PM

Fark Me To Tears: I_Am_Weasel: Texas is still far worse, they've Seoulless.

(* golf clap *)


Is that really something to be encouraging?
 
2012-06-05 11:38:54 PM
Over in two
 
2012-06-05 11:39:29 PM

meat0918: The whole world is going to Hell in a handbasket...


Or is that what people want us to believe? Honestly, media has the illusion of pushing a worldview onto us that may not be accurate, enforcing apathy.

Nothing is more effective at disheartening an enemy than giving them the illusion that they're wrong and that anything they do will result in failure. It's a very old psychological warfare trick, and it's one a lot of media outlets have been harnessing for quite a while.
 
2012-06-05 11:39:49 PM
Putting the Worst in Worst Korea.
 
2012-06-05 11:42:35 PM
It's kind of weird how the Koreans have taken to fundamental evangelical Christianity so well. Their traditional culture is just as Buddhist and Confucian as those of the surrounding east Asian countries, but Christianity is hardly a blip on the screen elsewhere.

As long as it isn't Islam, I suppose it's probably okay, though.
 
2012-06-05 11:44:41 PM
FunkOutNo one is to know the Japanese descended from Korean farmers who got lost on a 3 hour boat tour.

I thought Koreans were part of the Han tribe, and the Japans are part of the rice tribe.

/Think China vs Taiwan about 1000 years ago.
 
2012-06-05 11:46:05 PM
From the Nature article linked by I09: "However, a survey of trainee teachers in the country concluded that religious belief was not a strong determinant of their acceptance of evolution. It also found that 40% of biology teachers agreed with the statement that "much of the scientific community doubts if evolution occurs"; and half disagreed that "modern humans are the product of evolutionary processes"."


Doggone it, now who shall we blame this on?
 
2012-06-05 11:46:10 PM

Enemabag Jones: FunkOutNo one is to know the Japanese descended from Korean farmers who got lost on a 3 hour boat tour.

I thought Koreans were part of the Han tribe, and the Japans are part of the rice Greedo tribe.

/Think China vs Taiwan about 1000 years ago.


FTFY
 
2012-06-05 11:46:38 PM
Korean Christians are a cult like the Moonies.
 
2012-06-05 11:46:56 PM
FTA: The campaign, which was led by the Society for Textbook Revise (STR)...

OK, that's it. I just farking give up. Someone wake me when Ow, My Balls is on.

www.justsaypictures.com
 
2012-06-05 11:47:25 PM
farking missionaries.
 
2012-06-05 11:48:30 PM
Burn the books?
 
2012-06-05 11:48:36 PM
Let's all be friends
 
2012-06-05 11:48:45 PM
AverageAmericanGuy,It's kind of weird how the Koreans have taken to fundamental evangelical Christianity so well. Their traditional culture is just as Buddhist and Confucian as those of the surrounding east Asian countries, but Christianity is hardly a blip on the screen elsewhere.
As long as it isn't Islam, I suppose it's probably okay, though.


Sometime in the 60's or 70's, some born again evanglican started preaching in South Korea. I think Southern Baptist.

So if someone says they are 'Christian', they mean 'Born-again active in the church Christian'. Probably anyway.

He is the reason why Christians are mostly one specific sect over there. They were not full blown 'Christian-conservative' last time I checked, but give them time.
 
2012-06-05 11:49:54 PM

GilRuiz1: Doggone it, now who shall we blame this on?


If this was America, I'd say right-wingers deliberately fogging the issue and making it look like there's a controversy where none exists.
 
2012-06-05 11:50:35 PM
I don't believe in gravity. Can they take that out of the textbooks, too?
 
2012-06-05 11:51:36 PM
Dude, they still believe in "fan death."
What do you expect?
 
2012-06-05 11:52:13 PM

FunkOut: No one is to know the Japanese descended from Korean farmers who got lost on a 3 hour boat tour.


You know, a few years ago I remember reading a brief article about Japanese archaeology. Archaeologists were getting permission to excavate tombs from the earliest days of the present dynasty, around 2000 years ago, for the first time ever. For a long time it hadn't been possible to get permission because conservative Shintoists considered it blasphemous (and probably because they were afraid evidence would be discovered that the Emperor was not, in fact, descended from a deity.) There was now unease among extreme Japanese nationalists because it was possible that the Japanese royal family was originally Korean, and even if they weren't it was almost certain that some of Japan's oldest and most storied families were.
 
2012-06-05 11:52:15 PM
No no no, the South Koreans believe that in the beginning there was the Command Center, then the Zerg rush, and ultimatly the Psyonic Storm in the end of days.
 
2012-06-05 11:52:42 PM

GilRuiz1: From the Nature article linked by I09: "However, a survey of trainee teachers in the country concluded that religious belief was not a strong determinant of their acceptance of evolution. It also found that 40% of biology teachers agreed with the statement that "much of the scientific community doubts if evolution occurs"; and half disagreed that "modern humans are the product of evolutionary processes"."


Doggone it, now who shall we blame this on?


They're just idiots then.
 
2012-06-05 11:54:21 PM
The Korean identity has been diced and sliced so much over the last 500 years or so, culminating in Japanese occupation (which was attrocious to be sure) and then the Korean war.

This has led to a strange reaction on the cultural stage for Koreans. Koreans, culturally, believe they were the first humans. Even Americans don't believe that.

Where I have seen it the most is in martial arts. They have bastardized every other cultures' martial arts and stuck "bop" or "do" on the end and called it a Korean invention. Kendo is really Kumdo, Judo is really Yudo. Aikijutsu is really Hapkido. Kung Fu is really Kuk Sool Won. Karate is really Tae Kwon Do. Then other Korean masters who want to cash in bastardize those arts and tag "bop" into the name.

Of course, then some fat American takes both cultures and mish-mashes the names and creates this vomit that is then sold in a strip mall to gullible soccer moms and their kids. *what, me, bitter...no...*

The rabid adoption of Christianity is just the same, then you get your Moonies and such out of that. That culture is ripe for the picking for evangelicals. Those people are desperate to define themselves as anything other than a target for North Korea.

It is a really, really, really odd cultural phenomenon.
 
2012-06-05 11:55:32 PM

GilRuiz1: From the Nature article linked by I09: "However, a survey of trainee teachers in the country concluded that religious belief was not a strong determinant of their acceptance of evolution. It also found that 40% of biology teachers agreed with the statement that "much of the scientific community doubts if evolution occurs"; and half disagreed that "modern humans are the product of evolutionary processes"."


Doggone it, now who shall we blame this on?


Same as over here: Stupidity.
 
2012-06-05 11:55:37 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: meat0918: The whole world is going to Hell in a handbasket...

Or is that what people want us to believe? Honestly, media has the illusion of pushing a worldview onto us that may not be accurate, enforcing apathy.

Nothing is more effective at disheartening an enemy than giving them the illusion that they're wrong and that anything they do will result in failure. It's a very old psychological warfare trick, and it's one a lot of media outlets have been harnessing for quite a while.


I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
 
2012-06-05 11:56:03 PM

Enemabag Jones: AverageAmericanGuy,It's kind of weird how the Koreans have taken to fundamental evangelical Christianity so well. Their traditional culture is just as Buddhist and Confucian as those of the surrounding east Asian countries, but Christianity is hardly a blip on the screen elsewhere.
As long as it isn't Islam, I suppose it's probably okay, though.

Sometime in the 60's or 70's, some born again evanglican started preaching in South Korea. I think Southern Baptist.

So if someone says they are 'Christian', they mean 'Born-again active in the church Christian'. Probably anyway.

He is the reason why Christians are mostly one specific sect over there. They were not full blown 'Christian-conservative' last time I checked, but give them time.


I was raised Presbyterian, and apparently the Presbyterians were among the first to put a lot of effort into sending missionaries to Korea. Almost a third of the hymns in the hymnal were in Korean, spelled out phonetically. They must have been supplanted by evangelicals though, the Presbyterians aren't exactly hardcore fundies (weren't predestined that way, I suppose).
 
2012-06-05 11:56:06 PM
Evolution is the method God used to create life and advance life.

www.lolbrary.com
 
2012-06-05 11:57:31 PM
Everyone knows that the Bible is ALWAYS correct, as shown by this example:

biologos.org

Read Genesis if you don't believe me!
 
2012-06-05 11:57:53 PM
malaktausFunkOut: No one is to know the Japanese descended from Korean farmers who got lost on a 3 hour boat tour.
You know, a few years ago I remember reading a brief article about Japanese archaeology. Archaeologists were getting permission to excavate tombs from the earliest days of the present dynasty, around 2000 years ago, for the first time ever. For a long time it hadn't been possible to get permission because conservative Shintoists considered it blasphemous (and probably because they were afraid evidence would be discovered that the Emperor was not, in fact, descended from a deity.) There was now unease among extreme Japanese nationalists because it was possible that the Japanese royal family was originally Korean, and even if they weren't it was almost certain that some of Japan's oldest and most storied families were.


Sometimes I feel sorry for Nationalists, ect. Ignoring that the defeated tribe might have taken a boat to Japan many generations ago, after the Japanese occupation of Corea pre ww2, the genes are scrambled.
 
2012-06-05 11:58:06 PM
Aren't those Koreans cute? They want to be just as stupid and people from the mid-west. Except without being morbidly obese.
 
2012-06-06 12:00:15 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's kind of weird how the Koreans have taken to fundamental evangelical Christianity so well. Their traditional culture is just as Buddhist and Confucian as those of the surrounding east Asian countries, but Christianity is hardly a blip on the screen elsewhere.

As long as it isn't Islam, I suppose it's probably okay, though.


Christianity is growing quickly in many Asian countries, it's just that it took root in Korea early and they are more open to foreign ideas than, say, Japan. They have to be, they've been dominated by foreign powers for most of their history.
 
2012-06-06 12:00:29 AM
LockeOak,I was raised Presbyterian, and apparently the Presbyterians were among the first to put a lot of effort into sending missionaries to Korea. Almost a third of the hymns in the hymnal were in Korean, spelled out phonetically. They must have been supplanted by evangelicals though, the Presbyterians aren't exactly hardcore fundies (weren't predestined that way, I suppose).

I think the guy that really got Christanity going as a movement there was named Green-something. I am no expert on sects in Christanity, but it didn't feel Presbyterian to me.
 
2012-06-06 12:00:48 AM

Corporate Self: Evolution is the method God used to create life and advance life.

[www.lolbrary.com image 500x415]


No, not really. See, the Abrahamic faiths teach that only humans have souls due to being the product of special creation. Without special creation we are nothing more than animals. Animals without souls. Which means we don't survive death. We don't go to Heaven. We don't pas Go. We don't get $200.

Kinda sucks when your religion's ethnocentrism paints you in a corner like that.
 
2012-06-06 12:06:46 AM

Farty McPooPants: Dude, they still believe in "fan death."
What do you expect?


Maybe the heat has finally gotten to them.
 
2012-06-06 12:09:34 AM

Enemabag Jones: LockeOak,I was raised Presbyterian, and apparently the Presbyterians were among the first to put a lot of effort into sending missionaries to Korea. Almost a third of the hymns in the hymnal were in Korean, spelled out phonetically. They must have been supplanted by evangelicals though, the Presbyterians aren't exactly hardcore fundies (weren't predestined that way, I suppose).

I think the guy that really got Christanity going as a movement there was named Green-something. I am no expert on sects in Christanity, but it didn't feel Presbyterian to me.


From the Wiki: Link

Presbyterian Churches are the biggest and by far the most influential Protestant denominations in South Korea, with close to 20,000 churches affiliated with the two largest Presbyterian denominations in the country. . . Korean Presbyterian denominations are active in evangelism and many of its missionaries are being sent overseas, being the second biggest missionary sender in the world after the United States. GSM, the missionary body of the "Hapdong" General Assembly of Presbyterian Churches of Korea, is the single largest Presbyterian missionary organization in the Korea.In Oryu-dong, Pyungkang Cheil is one of the largest Christian churches in South Korea. Another congregation in Seoul, Myungsung Presbyterian Church, claims to be the largest Presbyterian Church in the world. In addition there are many Korean-American Presbyterians in the United States, either with their own church sites or sharing space in pre-existing churches as is the case in Australia, New Zealand and even Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia with Korean immigration.

Apparently Korean Presbyterians are a bit feistier than U.S. ones.
 
2012-06-06 12:11:30 AM

Farty McPooPants: Dude, they still believe in "fan death."
What do you expect?


That is really quite odd. I have a ceiling fan in every room of the house, I should die every night May-October.
 
2012-06-06 12:12:58 AM

rosebud_the_sled: Aren't those Koreans cute? They want to be just as stupid and people from the mid-west. Except without being morbidly obese.


They're working on that too.
 
2012-06-06 12:13:28 AM
LockeOak,Apparently Korean Presbyterians are a bit feistier than U.S. ones.

As I don't remember exactly exact name of the sect, I stand corrected.
 
2012-06-06 12:20:06 AM
Someone want to copypasta the article's text here for me? I'm not disabling a million scriptblockers for a another stupid Gawker link.

kthxbye
 
2012-06-06 12:20:53 AM

Corporate Self: Evolution is the method God used to create life and advance life.

[www.lolbrary.com image 500x415]


And for an omnipotent and all-powerful being, he really cocked it up something fierce.

I'd have made it so that animals can near-instantaneously develop what they need to survive changes. Flash flood? Feet turn into flippers and gills open on the neck. Falling off a cliff or out of a tree? Sprout wings or skin flaps to glide to the ground. Drought? Alter body tissues to conserve water and process waste while adjusting the body processes to go into hibernation. Toxic gases and ash from a volcano? Nostrils and airways create ash screens while the body adjusts to metabolize sulfur and other chemicals.

I'm a meaningless mortal human and I can come up with better ideas than God.
 
2012-06-06 12:21:03 AM
I think they discovered the Missing Rink:

www.cptawesome.co.za
 
2012-06-06 12:23:27 AM
Sorry, South Korea. I sold Rev Moon his American book on Christian Education back in 2008.

Seriously, I got an order for a book on christian education from a Rev Moon in South Korea once upon a time.

/Atheist that sells enough bibles to pay his utilities each month.
 
2012-06-06 12:29:34 AM
South Koreans have a very heavy Catholic influence. The Catholics are flexing their power right now to keep the flock in line all over the world where most of their money comes from. They worked their way in the US what is stopping them from doing it over there.
 
2012-06-06 12:33:14 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: I'm a meaningless mortal human and I can come up with better ideas than God.


Thing is, anyone with a reasonable understanding of biology, anatomy, and basic mechanics can come up with much better solutions than that God clown. The idea that we're designed is laughable.
 
2012-06-06 12:34:52 AM

whatshisname: farking missionaries.

of any creed

They have caused more misery and death than any other group in history.
 
2012-06-06 12:39:36 AM

sonorangal: South Koreans have a very heavy Catholic influence. The Catholics are flexing their power right now to keep the flock in line all over the world where most of their money comes from. They worked their way in the US what is stopping them from doing it over there.


The Catholic Church is not anti-evolution.
 
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