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2012-06-05 02:25:48 PM  
Not news: Fark Pol tab still fellating corpse.
 
2012-06-05 02:26:47 PM  
Just waiting for someone to soil their hands reading Deadbart.
 
2012-06-05 02:27:20 PM  
Well, a deadmoran headline with zero comments and no votes. At least it's comforting to know the mod himself is a troll.

But he's right. Obama won't make a difference. Walker will blow up all on his own.
 
2012-06-05 02:28:06 PM  
How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?
 
2012-06-05 02:29:01 PM  

xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?


How much have business groups spent on this single recall election? Three, four, five times what the unions have?
 
2012-06-05 02:31:12 PM  

xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?


About 1/5 what Walker has.
 
2012-06-05 02:31:51 PM  

qorkfiend: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

How much have business groups spent on this single recall election? Three, four, five times what the unions have?


corporations are people my friend
 
2012-06-05 02:33:24 PM  

Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.


I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.
 
2012-06-05 02:33:53 PM  
I will not give traffic to the deadhorse.
 
2012-06-05 02:34:21 PM  

CPennypacker: qorkfiend: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

How much have business groups spent on this single recall election? Three, four, five times what the unions have?

corporations are people my friend


Yeah, I remember taking AT&T to the prom. You can say she really farked me hard, especially when she saw my iphone.
 
2012-06-05 02:34:40 PM  

xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?


How much have the Koch brothers and various out-of-state interests spent on this single recall election to keep Walker in power?
 
Bf+
2012-06-05 02:36:24 PM  

xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?


www.motherjones.com
Look it up yourself, Kochsucker.
 
2012-06-05 02:36:26 PM  

Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.


I believe it is higher than a 1/5 ratio. Early in the recall effort, months ago, the ratio was akin to 20/1.
 
2012-06-05 02:36:41 PM  

Jackson Herring: I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.


Last figure I saw was 4m for the Dem, 40m for Walker.
 
2012-06-05 02:38:00 PM  

juniperwasting: I will not give traffic to the deadhorse.


Thanks for coming in, letting us know.
 
2012-06-05 02:38:22 PM  

Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.


WRONG you TROLL.

62 million total has been spent.

Unions have spent 42 million of that.

lol 2 to 1 and unions are still gonna lose. They really know hoe to waste money don't they...
 
2012-06-05 02:38:45 PM  

Bf+: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

[www.motherjones.com image 557x396]
Look it up yourself, Kochsucker.


This is a very scary graph. Because it shows that Wisconsin's corporate interests are all in the tank for Walker. Walker's instate donors are MORE than the combined total the Dems can muster. And it doesn't even touch the right-wing money he is getting from all around America.
 
2012-06-05 02:40:21 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.

WRONG you TROLL.

62 million total has been spent.

Unions have spent 42 million of that.

lol 2 to 1 and unions are still gonna lose. They really know hoe to waste money don't they...


It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

But whatever helps you sleep tonight as you unmake or democracy.
 
2012-06-05 02:40:58 PM  
*our
 
2012-06-05 02:41:39 PM  
Why do so many people feel the need to lie about the ratio of spending in this election?
 
2012-06-05 02:43:16 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-05 02:44:00 PM  

Jackson Herring: Why do so many people feel the need to lie about the ratio of spending in this election?


Because it's very important for the Republican propaganda that Walker's victory is a resounding Wisconsin grassroots effort, not a huge spending blast by rich people from out of state.
 
2012-06-05 02:44:09 PM  
Well, "people"
 
2012-06-05 02:46:04 PM  

Edsel: Jackson Herring: Why do so many people feel the need to lie about the ratio of spending in this election?

Because it's very important for the Republican propaganda that Walker's victory is a resounding Wisconsin grassroots effort, not a huge spending blast by rich people from out of state.


Yep, because having power bought instead of genuinely voted for throws a monkey wrench in the whole "America and apple pie" narrative.
 
2012-06-05 02:46:37 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.

WRONG you TROLL.

62 million total has been spent.

Unions have spent 42 million of that.

lol 2 to 1 and unions are still gonna lose. They really know hoe to waste money don't they...


Project much?
 
2012-06-05 02:48:57 PM  

jim32rr: juniperwasting: I will not give traffic to the deadhorse.

Thanks for coming in, letting us know.


Breitbart's not going to sleep... Eh, you know what? I encourage you to dig up his rotting, maggot-infested corpse and fulfill your dreams. He won't put up much of a struggle.
 
2012-06-05 02:49:05 PM  

BitwiseShift: Just waiting for someone to soil their hands reading Deadbart.


Breitbart didn't die, he was elevated to godhood.

i91.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-05 02:49:25 PM  
b...b....but liberal media?
 
2012-06-05 02:51:29 PM  
Another day another shiatty editorial from breitbart.
 
2012-06-05 03:04:37 PM  

LectertheChef: BitwiseShift: Just waiting for someone to soil their hands reading Deadbart.

Breitbart didn't die, he was elevated to godhood.

[i91.photobucket.com image 362x460]


Well, isn't that lulzy?

It is especially comforting to know that his soul-patch survived the transcendence process.
 
2012-06-05 03:07:09 PM  
Oh look, the mod is deleting comments that make him look bad.

Kinda like what Walker is doing with the robocalls, eh?
 
2012-06-05 03:07:34 PM  

qorkfiend: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

How much have business groups spent on this single recall election? Three, four, five times what the unions have?


There's more SNAP here than that one time I got a compound fracture.
 
2012-06-05 03:18:08 PM  
Walker is scum.
 
2012-06-05 03:18:35 PM  

Wessoman: Oh look, the mod is deleting comments that make him look bad.

Kinda like what Walker is doing with the robocalls, eh?


QFT
 
2012-06-05 03:29:41 PM  

Local_User: LectertheChef: BitwiseShift: Just waiting for someone to soil their hands reading Deadbart.

Breitbart didn't die, he was elevated to godhood.

[i91.photobucket.com image 362x460]

Well, isn't that lulzy?

It is especially comforting to know that his soul-patch survived the transcendence process.


Yeah, and it's yours for only $3999.95, but act fast, there's only 43 available!
 
2012-06-05 03:33:55 PM  
No click for dead moran derp blog.
 
2012-06-05 03:36:57 PM  
Also, Boston isn't a big college town.
 
2012-06-05 03:37:15 PM  
Breitbart is still doing his job of being an epic douche from beyond the grave as he's still soothing right-wing vaginas everywhere.
 
2012-06-05 03:50:03 PM  

LectertheChef: BitwiseShift: Just waiting for someone to soil their hands reading Deadbart.

Breitbart didn't die, he was elevated to godhood.

[i91.photobucket.com image 362x460]


i1019.photobucket.com
Rips off Breitbart's head and shiats down his neck.
 
MFL
2012-06-05 03:51:35 PM  
It looks like that sleeping giant that was awakened is named Butthurt.
 
2012-06-05 03:51:38 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Not news: Fark Pol tab still fellating corpse.


Time for concerted civil disobedience. Thread shiat every Brietbart thread until they stop linking that horse shiat.
 
2012-06-05 03:53:18 PM  

MFL: It looks like that sleeping giant that was awakened is named Butthurt.



Yes we see you have awoken
 
2012-06-05 03:55:17 PM  
Wessoman:
It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

You do know that those "Walker is spending more" charts we've been seeing are just the direct "pro-election" costs, right? They don't count the $15 million spent on buying the recall election in the first place, or any of the "get out the union vote" spending since - the total campaign is HUGE. $60 million by the unions is probably an understatement.

Heck, national Democrats are whining because they think the massive union spending on this race is going to cause serious damage to Obama in November - because the unions won't have a big enough bank account to fund the Democrats at a national level.
 
2012-06-05 03:58:17 PM  

cirby: Wessoman:
It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

You do know that those "Walker is spending more" charts we've been seeing are just the direct "pro-election" costs, right? They don't count the $15 million spent on buying the recall election in the first place, or any of the "get out the union vote" spending since - the total campaign is HUGE. $60 million by the unions is probably an understatement.

Heck, national Democrats are whining because they think the massive union spending on this race is going to cause serious damage to Obama in November - because the unions won't have a big enough bank account to fund the Democrats at a national level.


Surely it would be trivial to provide a shred of supporting evidence.
 
2012-06-05 04:03:18 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Lenny_da_Hog: Not news: Fark Pol tab still fellating corpse.

Time for concerted civil disobedience. Thread shiat every Brietbart thread until they stop linking that horse shiat.


The best way for breitbart to stop getting greened is the same way we stopped getting LGF greens: they have to become sane. Sane doesn't mean alot of traffic.

In fact, hasn't breitbart been greened MORE since he died?
 
2012-06-05 04:06:10 PM  

Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.


Pretty telling the Democrats don't want to put other people's money where their mouths are.
 
2012-06-05 04:12:43 PM  
It will never happen, but this country would be much better off if we could ditch the private donations and just go with completely public-funded campaigns.

William Gibson Dystopia, here we come!
 
2012-06-05 04:21:35 PM  
He's dead, guys.
 
2012-06-05 04:23:08 PM  
Since when does calling someone a troll results in this: (deleted: Personal attacks/namecalling)?


/waaaaaaa - dims
 
2012-06-05 04:25:34 PM  

lacrossestar83: He's dead, guys.


Barrett ? It is not even 4:00 CST
 
2012-06-05 04:28:58 PM  
jim32rr

lacrossestar83: He's dead, guys.

Barrett ? It is not even 4:00 CST



He obviously can see into the future.
 
2012-06-05 04:33:58 PM  
qorkfiend:
Surely it would be trivial to provide a shred of supporting evidence.

The Christian Science Monitor?
"The beltway reluctance to embrace this campaign in large part is because they made an assessment the needs for November are greater," says Paul Maslin, a national political consultant based in Madison. "There's no way to match [Walker's] money and at some point, [the DNC] made the decision there are other priorities."

In other words, they're afraid to spend money on a losing fight because they're going to really need it in October.

You can see the snark building, even in places like Huffington Post and Democratic Underground. A lot of the "local" Democrats are starting to figure out that they're on their own for the next few months.
 
2012-06-05 04:49:23 PM  

karnal: Since when does calling someone a troll results in this: (deleted: Personal attacks/namecalling)?


/waaaaaaa - dims


one of the mods must think you are a douche... as hard as that is to believe...
 
2012-06-05 05:17:22 PM  

karnal: Since when does calling someone a troll results in this: (deleted: Personal attacks/namecalling)?


/waaaaaaa - dims


They are not Trolls, they are Troglodyte Americans.
 
2012-06-05 05:36:33 PM  

beta_plus: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

Pretty telling the Democrats don't want to put other people's money where their mouths are.


Not really, the Democrats ARE putting money where their mouths are. But it's even more telling that even with the Unions going full bore, they can never outspend the out of state, plutocratic dollars coming into Wisconsin to keep Walker propper up.

In reality, this is a LOSE-LOSE situation for America. If Walker wins, this is the first step to the end of Unions in America. Considering the fact that Union influence is directly correlated to the welfare and wages of the Middle class of America, it means that a Walker victory is the first step in the USA's transformation into Mexico. If Walker loses, it's also horrific because the narrative will be that Walker lost even in the post-Citizen's United era. This will legitimize Citizens United, as the talking point will instantly shift that we need "Citizens United" and "Voter Regulation" to make our democracy "More fair for everyone", pushing the GOP even further to extremism.

/Yes, I think Walker will lose.
//Yes, I think the loss, as I have said, will push the GOP even further to the right, and ultimately be worse for the country.
 
MFL
2012-06-05 06:19:01 PM  
Wessoman In reality, this is a LOSE-LOSE situation for America. If Walker wins, this is the first step to the end of Unions in America. Considering the fact that Union influence is directly correlated to the welfare and wages of the Middle class of America


If what you said is true, why is it that in almost every case the states that keep public unions in check or don't have them at all are doing so much better financially than states like Illinois, Michigan and California?
 
2012-06-05 06:38:29 PM  
Bill Clinton was a big hero for coming to Wisconsin and fighting for the Mayor.
Obama is a twittering idiot... he could have made a difference, but was too afraid to help.
 
2012-06-05 06:52:25 PM  

Descartes: Bill Clinton was a big hero for coming to Wisconsin and fighting for the Mayor.
Obama is a twittering idiot... he could have made a difference, but was too afraid to help.


If somebody doesn't get fired for this in the State Democratic Party then they are truly lost. The best Obama and his people do are forward an email and send out a tweet. From what I heard from Howard Fineman he didn't want to be here to get any of the possible stink on him if Barrett lost. He and Wasserman-Schultz have pissed off more than a few people here. This place might have just gone from leaning Obama to tossup.
 
2012-06-05 06:52:53 PM  

cirby: Wessoman:
It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

You do know that those "Walker is spending more" charts we've been seeing are just the direct "pro-election" costs, right? They don't count the $15 million spent on buying the recall election in the first place, or any of the "get out the union vote" spending since - the total campaign is HUGE. $60 million by the unions is probably an understatement.

Heck, national Democrats are whining because they think the massive union spending on this race is going to cause serious damage to Obama in November - because the unions won't have a big enough bank account to fund the Democrats at a national level.


So since evidence didn't seem to be forthcoming, I did a bit of digging.

According to the Maciver Institute, a partisan small-government thinktank, labor and related organizations have spent about $18 million all told in the larger context of the election. They use some questionably broad definitions of what constitutes a "labor-related organization", and count the Democratic Party of Wisconsin and the Democratic Gov's Association as labor in their calculations. And they still come out with a number less than 1/3 of your "understatement", and less than half of what has been spent by the walker campaign on what you called "direct 'pro-election' costs" alone.
 
2012-06-05 07:05:04 PM  
WIPE THESE GRINS OFF THEIR FACES!
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VOTE DEMOCRAT TODAY!
 
2012-06-05 07:08:21 PM  

MFL: Wessoman In reality, this is a LOSE-LOSE situation for America. If Walker wins, this is the first step to the end of Unions in America. Considering the fact that Union influence is directly correlated to the welfare and wages of the Middle class of America


If what you said is true, why is it that in almost every case the states that keep public unions in check or don't have them at all are doing so much better financially than states like Illinois, Michigan and California?


Citationneeded.jpg

And define "Doing so much better financially". Median income means much more than the budget that Schwarzenegger recalled and raped for a decade.

Stefanwulf: cirby: Wessoman:
It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

You do know that those "Walker is spending more" charts we've been seeing are just the direct "pro-election" costs, right? They don't count the $15 million spent on buying the recall election in the first place, or any of the "get out the union vote" spending since - the total campaign is HUGE. $60 million by the unions is probably an understatement.

Heck, national Democrats are whining because they think the massive union spending on this race is going to cause serious damage to Obama in November - because the unions won't have a big enough bank account to fund the Democrats at a national level.

So since evidence didn't seem to be forthcoming, I did a bit of digging.

According to the Maciver Institute, a partisan small-government thinktank, labor and related organizations have spent about $18 million all told in the larger context of the election. They use some questionably broad definitions of what constitutes a "labor-related organization", and count the Democratic Party of Wisconsin and the Democratic Gov's Association as labor in their calculations. And they still come out with a number less than 1/3 of your "understatement", and less than half of what has been spent by the walker campaign on what you called "direct 'pro-election' costs" alone.


Exactly. Using the metrics of reality, I stand by my 5-1 ratio. And I defer back to my earlier posts- Even with outspending the Dems 5-1, this election waaay too close for confort for the GOP. Furthermore, I genuinely believe that the Democrats are tapping the tank for this one- I think they are putting as much money as they can into this and that's only 20% of what the GOP and their corporate allies/sponsors can muster.
 
2012-06-05 07:23:49 PM  
I just received a tea party email a few minutes ago. They sound a little worried about the exit polls
 
2012-06-05 07:27:26 PM  

Wessoman: TIKIMAN87: Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.

WRONG you TROLL.

62 million total has been spent.

Unions have spent 42 million of that.

lol 2 to 1 and unions are still gonna lose. They really know hoe to waste money don't they...

It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

But whatever helps you sleep tonight as you unmake or democracy.


How on earth does someone become as poorly informed as THIS idiot??? Dear lord....
 
2012-06-05 07:29:59 PM  

bronyaur1: Wessoman: TIKIMAN87: Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.

WRONG you TROLL.

62 million total has been spent.

Unions have spent 42 million of that.

lol 2 to 1 and unions are still gonna lose. They really know hoe to waste money don't they...

It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

But whatever helps you sleep tonight as you unmake or democracy.

How on earth does someone become as poorly informed as THIS idiot??? Dear lord....


Well, care to elucidate, or are you just threadshiatting because something contradicts a preconcieved talking point in your head?
 
2012-06-05 07:31:51 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I just received a tea party email a few minutes ago. They sound a little worried about the exit polls


I think they're lying to create a sense of urgency and increase turn-out on their side.

What do you think?
 
NFA
2012-06-05 07:34:38 PM  

bronyaur1: Wessoman: TIKIMAN87: Jackson Herring: Wessoman: xtragrind: How much have the unions spent on this single recall election? 50, 75, 100 million so far?

About 1/5 what Walker has.

I was under the impression that it was more like 1/7? About 4 million dollars TOTAL on the Dem side.

WRONG you TROLL.

62 million total has been spent.

Unions have spent 42 million of that.

lol 2 to 1 and unions are still gonna lose. They really know hoe to waste money don't they...

It's certainly not 2 to 1. In fact, the ratio is closer to my stated 5 to one.

But whatever helps you sleep tonight as you unmake or democracy.

How on earth does someone become as poorly informed as THIS idiot??? Dear lord....


Two words: FOX NEWS
 
2012-06-05 07:43:49 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: antidisestablishmentarianism: I just received a tea party email a few minutes ago. They sound a little worried about the exit polls

I think they're lying to create a sense of urgency and increase turn-out on their side.

What do you think?


Not sure. I get 10 or more emails a day from the tea party and 1-3 a week from moveon.org. I haven't had a moveon email yet today.
 
2012-06-05 09:23:47 PM  

Descartes: Bill Clinton was a big hero for coming to Wisconsin and fighting for the Mayor.
Obama is a twittering idiot... he could have made a difference, but was too afraid to help.


Considering the Derpocalypse after the election of a black president has anyone speculated that Obama stayed out of it to keep the racists at home?
 
2012-06-05 09:37:37 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Descartes: Bill Clinton was a big hero for coming to Wisconsin and fighting for the Mayor.
Obama is a twittering idiot... he could have made a difference, but was too afraid to help.

Considering the Derpocalypse after the election of a black president has anyone speculated that Obama stayed out of it to keep the racists at home?


Funny, like a clown.
 
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