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(Mental Floss)   "I need the rest of you to help me fix the world. The rest of the world is getting stupider." -When Neil deGrasse Tyson gives commencement addresses   (mentalfloss.com) divider line 84
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2012-06-05 01:55:56 PM  
No hyperbole there. nope. none.
 
2012-06-05 01:57:16 PM  
Evidently, Mr. Tyson believed a badass to be present in the audience.
 
2012-06-05 02:01:56 PM  
he has a point. South Korea just caved to the Creationists.
Link^
 
2012-06-05 02:02:06 PM  
What a stupid Earth creature.
 
2012-06-05 02:02:11 PM  
I liked Brokaw's.
 
2012-06-05 02:03:14 PM  
Goddamnit I'm so sick of this f*ckwad attention whore. Yes, it was cool for a while that science was getting respect but he's become a self-promotion machine fueled by idiot Redditors
 
2012-06-05 02:04:07 PM  
Robert de Niro:
"I have one message for you, class of 2012: Stay in school."

Indeed - a master's is the new high school diploma
 
2012-06-05 02:04:51 PM  
That's some weapons grade smarm.
 
2012-06-05 02:05:49 PM  
I had no idea I was supposed to hate him.

Good writer, scientific rockstar. I like him.
 
2012-06-05 02:06:31 PM  
I like Neil deGrasse Tyson. Better than Perdue.

www.consumerqueen.com
 
2012-06-05 02:06:34 PM  
this guy is farking awesome. Probably the best "smart guy" out there right now.
 
2012-06-05 02:07:11 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Goddamnit I'm so sick of this f*ckwad attention whore. Yes, it was cool for a while that science was getting respect but he's become a self-promotion machine fueled by idiot Redditors


Agreed, though I think he's a good guy, but his followers ruin him for everyone else... Kinda like what they did for Jesus. I wonder if you went on Reddit and suggested that NdGT's fans were fundies for him what would happen?
 
2012-06-05 02:07:52 PM  

badLogic: he has a point. South Korea just caved to the Creationists.
Link^


I knew that South Korea was pretty religious (Christian) but I had no idea that the Christian "right" had that much power there. Wow.
 
2012-06-05 02:08:46 PM  
Why does this guy get so much pub compared to real heavyweights like Fileppenko, Woosley or Perlmutter?
 
2012-06-05 02:09:03 PM  
I love NdGT. His hourlong thing with Stephen Colbert at the Kimberly Montclair Academy is a great watch.
 
2012-06-05 02:09:24 PM  
Obvious tag was on break.
 
2012-06-05 02:09:51 PM  

Dimensio: Evidently, Mr. Tyson believed a badass to be present in the audience.


www.myfacewhen.net

Any of you could go on to become the next Final Boss of the Internet!
 
2012-06-05 02:10:37 PM  
As much as I love Neil deGrasse Tyson, listen to Neil Gaiman's full speech.
 
2012-06-05 02:12:08 PM  
end ufo secrecy then, hero.

how many times have we talked about this?
 
2012-06-05 02:12:45 PM  
We had Howard "Ole Yeller" Dean for our commencement speaker a few years ago and I loved his speech. His message was basically:

"Tolerance for others has absolutely no place in this society. I don't want to be tolerated, I want to be accepted"

As a young gay man, this spoke to me.
 
2012-06-05 02:13:45 PM  
So many writers and news people - I guess everyone else was busy working?
 
2012-06-05 02:18:55 PM  
What no, "We're dealing with a badass pics"?
 
2012-06-05 02:19:08 PM  
10. Dom Sagolla (Twitter co-creator): Becker College, MA
"Embrace constraints; seek them out. Many people feel that social or political constraints are an excuse to fail, but I find them to be freeing. You know, you look at Twitter with 140 characters to get your message across... Some of the best small companies thrive because constraints inspire creativity."

11. Ted Koppel (Journalist): UMass Amherst
"If we ignore all the serious issues or try to reduce them all to 140 characters or fewer exchanges, we are going to have ... genuine problems, not just in the economy, but in foreign policy, education, health."
 
2012-06-05 02:19:27 PM  
No sunscreen?
 
2012-06-05 02:22:14 PM  
This was the best quote on the list:

All your life you have been hearing about how your lives will be changed on this occasion as you enter the real world. I have a news bulletin for you tonight. You've already been there. Turns out, junior high was the real world ... The same petty jealousies, the insecurities, the snobs, the cliques, the dorks, the egos, the tantrums, and the dopes that you met in junior high, you're going to encounter for the rest of your lives."
-- Tom Brokaw @ ASU
 
2012-06-05 02:22:59 PM  
NSCSB: I gave the valedictory speech at my college. I had ideas that resonated, actually connected with what me and my peeps went through (post-9/11), but the faculty advisor gently but firmly stomped them down. I vaguely recall reciting a boring set of platitudes after it went through committee. I, robot.

/even had a quote from natalie merchant planned
//oh yeah
 
2012-06-05 02:23:49 PM  
B-b-b-but that one xkcd comic that asserts that Idiocracy is a fictional movie!
 
2012-06-05 02:25:22 PM  
My experience while living in Korea was that most people didn't care about religion, but a large percentage of the religious people were absolutely nuts.

The Catholics weren't too bad, really, though they were slightly more conservative than American Catholics. The Protestants, though, were all super fundies. Even just talking to them was close to impossible.
 
2012-06-05 02:26:39 PM  

Mawson of the Antarctic: I wonder if you went on Reddit and suggested that NdGT's fans were fundies for him what would happen?


I don't know, but the aftermath would be horrifying. Emergency rooms would be thronged as hundreds of smug redditors sprain their shoulders attempting to pat themselves on their own backs.
 
2012-06-05 02:30:32 PM  

pkellmey: So many writers and news people - I guess everyone else was busy working?


Yep.
 
2012-06-05 02:32:35 PM  

NetOwl: My experience while living in Korea was that most people didn't care about religion, but a large percentage of the religious people were absolutely nuts.


So just like everywhere else then.
 
2012-06-05 02:36:21 PM  
What I learned from that article...


Screw the people from Georgetown.
 
2012-06-05 02:37:01 PM  

umad: NetOwl: My experience while living in Korea was that most people didn't care about religion, but a large percentage of the religious people were absolutely nuts.

So just like everywhere else then.


Heh - yea, verily, the TRVTH.

Why is it so hard to explain to both the fundies and the evangelical atheists that WE DON'T GIVE A SHIAT. I tried to explain this to someone recently and they called me an "agnostic."

"Nope, because that implies I've given this matter some thought - and I haven't. The fact is, the only time I think about religion is when someone like you is bothering me about it. So, don't go away mad. Just go away."

/srsly
 
2012-06-05 02:39:56 PM  

victrin: "Tolerance for others has absolutely no place in this society. I don't want to be tolerated, I want to be accepted"

As a young gay man, this spoke to me.


I'm not surprised. Howard Dean was never crazy; he was the victim of one of the most rabid, complete and downright Orwellian character assassinations I'd ever had the misfortune to witness. The media, Democrats and Republicans were all terrified of him.

However, some context is in order. "Tolerance" and "political correctness" were preached as I was growing up because the alternative at the time was open bigotry. Same with "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". That was the only way gays could serve in the political climate of the time. Really, even today you can hear old-fart stand-ups like Lenny Clark yearn for the "good ol' days" when you could make various stereotypical jokes without any repercussions, anywhere. I dunno, depending on where you live it may seem that way today, but I mean back then, bigotry was anywhere it wanted to be. I mean, hell, the country elected an open bigot (Reagan) in a landslide. Twice.

It's actually a triumph of liberalism that the genuinely progressive movements of 30 years ago are now obsolete. I'm not saying we should stand pat -- we should push for acceptance now -- but "tolerance" wasn't some concession offered by the right. It was an ambitious cultural offensive from the left.
 
2012-06-05 02:41:36 PM  
I like him. I do.
I just miss Scientific American Frontier with Alan Alda.
 
2012-06-05 02:42:02 PM  

sure haven't: I had no idea I was supposed to hate him.

Good writer, scientific rockstar. I like him.


"Hate" is a little strong, but you are supposed to be annoyed by him. Maybe if I read books or knew anything about his research, his personality would be easier to take.
What is one of his "rockstar" discoveries?
 
2012-06-05 02:43:50 PM  
I liked this one
19. Jim Lehrer (Journalist): College of William and Mary, VA
"Please don't mistake what is happening here today. The fact that you are receiving a diploma from one of America's finest institutions of higher learning does not mean you are educated."

I also liked Conan O'Brien at Dartmouth last year.

'Today, you walk out of here with something only 97% of your peers possess, a college diploma.'
 
2012-06-05 02:45:14 PM  

TheOther: Why does this guy get so much pub compared to real heavyweights like Fileppenko, Woosley or Perlmutter?


They don't go out of their way to promote themselves like NDT. Say what you will about his overexposure, he's at least making the farking effort. Perhaps he wouldn't feel the need to be so loud if more of his peers would step up and do what he's doing, instead of deliberately staying backstage biatching about how nobody is interested in science anymore.
 
2012-06-05 02:48:50 PM  

elk-tamer: sure haven't: I had no idea I was supposed to hate him.

Good writer, scientific rockstar. I like him.

"Hate" is a little strong, but you are supposed to be annoyed by him. Maybe if I read books or knew anything about his research, his personality would be easier to take.
What is one of his "rockstar" discoveries?


He is currently the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space, and a research associate in the department of astrophysics at the American Museum of Natural History. Since 2006 he has hosted the educational science television show NOVA scienceNOW on PBS.

He's got at least 17 honorary doctorates, and a list of his books includes:

Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier (2012) ISBN 0-393-08210-5
The Pluto Files: The Rise and Fall of America's Favorite Planet (2009) ISBN 0-393-06520-0
Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries (2007) ISBN 0-393-33016-8
The Sky Is Not the Limit: Adventures of an Urban Astrophysicist (1st ed. 2000 / 2nd ed. 2004) ISBN 978-1-59102-188-9
Origins: Fourteen Billion Years of Cosmic Evolution (co-authored with Donald Goldsmith) (2004) ISBN 0-393-32758-2
My Favorite Universe (A twelve part lecture series) (2003) ISBN 1-56585-663-5
City of Stars: A New Yorker's Guide to the Cosmos (2002)
Cosmic Horizons: Astronomy at the Cutting Edge (2000) ISBN 1-56584-602-8
One Universe: At Home in the Cosmos (2000) ISBN 0-309-06488-0
Just Visiting This Planet (1998) ISBN 0-385-48837-8
Universe Down to Earth (1994) ISBN 0-231-07560-X
Merlin's Tour of the Universe (1989) ISBN 0-385-48835-1


All of which you could have learned by going to wikipedia.

Since you seem to make a point about not reading books, perhaps you are one of the people he's referring to.
 
2012-06-05 02:53:26 PM  

umad: NetOwl: My experience while living in Korea was that most people didn't care about religion, but a large percentage of the religious people were absolutely nuts.

So just like everywhere else then.


I might have understated things a bit.

The Protestants I met there were all completely insane. There were no moderates. (Well, there might have been some somewhere, but the only moderate religious people I met were Catholics and Buddhists.)

In the U.S., I can get along with maybe half of the Protestants I meet even if they want to talk about religion, but the reasonable majority simply isn't there in Korea. The Protestants are all the result of loony missionary groups rather than centuries of watered-down tradition, and it was enough to shock even me.

In my experience, the places whose Christians are mostly recent converts and their kids have the most rabid fundamentalist movements.
 
2012-06-05 02:53:58 PM  

mithras_angel: elk-tamer: sure haven't: I had no idea I was supposed to hate him.

Good writer, scientific rockstar. I like him.

"Hate" is a little strong, but you are supposed to be annoyed by him. Maybe if I read books or knew anything about his research, his personality would be easier to take.
What is one of his "rockstar" discoveries?

He is currently the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space, and a research associate in the department of astrophysics at the American Museum of Natural History. Since 2006 he has hosted the educational science television show NOVA scienceNOW on PBS.

He's got at least 17 honorary doctorates, and a list of his books includes:

Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier (2012) ISBN 0-393-08210-5
The Pluto Files: The Rise and Fall of America's Favorite Planet (2009) ISBN 0-393-06520-0
Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries (2007) ISBN 0-393-33016-8
The Sky Is Not the Limit: Adventures of an Urban Astrophysicist (1st ed. 2000 / 2nd ed. 2004) ISBN 978-1-59102-188-9
Origins: Fourteen Billion Years of Cosmic Evolution (co-authored with Donald Goldsmith) (2004) ISBN 0-393-32758-2
My Favorite Universe (A twelve part lecture series) (2003) ISBN 1-56585-663-5
City of Stars: A New Yorker's Guide to the Cosmos (2002)
Cosmic Horizons: Astronomy at the Cutting Edge (2000) ISBN 1-56584-602-8
One Universe: At Home in the Cosmos (2000) ISBN 0-309-06488-0
Just Visiting This Planet (1998) ISBN 0-385-48837-8
Universe Down to Earth (1994) ISBN 0-231-07560-X
Merlin's Tour of the Universe (1989) ISBN 0-385-48835-1


All of which you could have learned by going to wikipedia.

Since you seem to make a point about not reading books, perhaps you are one of the people he's referring to.


sayanythingblog.com
 
2012-06-05 02:54:33 PM  

dragonchild: victrin: "Tolerance for others has absolutely no place in this society. I don't want to be tolerated, I want to be accepted"

As a young gay man, this spoke to me.

I'm not surprised. Howard Dean was never crazy; he was the victim of one of the most rabid, complete and downright Orwellian character assassinations I'd ever had the misfortune to witness. The media, Democrats and Republicans were all terrified of him.


Yep. I remember all the hoopla about his "shriek", then I saw the video. That's it? Him going "yeah!" to rile up his base? It was truly bizarre to me how insane everyone became about that. The myth of the Howard Dean yell was an enormous game of telephone, and now you have people complaining about folks like Al Gore and John Kerry who were dull, lifeless, and wooden.
 
2012-06-05 02:58:32 PM  
"Think about what you thought college would be like, and what you expected yourself to be like. Now look at yourself. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that things totally didn't turn out like you expected. This process will repeat itself ad nauseam throughout your entire life."

- Adam Savage


Truer words were never spoken.
 
2012-06-05 02:58:48 PM  
What we need- arrogant scientists. I guess this guy is going to replace Carl Sagan in the remake of Cosmos. How about NO- Sagan had his flaws, but he wasn't a preacher in his pulpit, which Tyson is.
 
2012-06-05 03:06:19 PM  

rico567: Sagan had his flaws, but he wasn't a preacher in his pulpit


Yes he was. The reason Sagan was so popular was because he was great at explaining complex science to morons. Why do people get so upset about normal people being exposed to science?
 
2012-06-05 03:07:43 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Goddamnit I'm so sick of this f*ckwad attention whore. Yes, it was cool for a while that science was getting respect but he's become a self-promotion machine fueled by idiot Redditors


Bad day hon?
 
2012-06-05 03:09:19 PM  
What a rockstar scientist may look like:

i470.photobucket.com
Brian Cox
 
2012-06-05 03:10:31 PM  
It shouldn't matter how prestigious Tyson's research is (as I, like most people, probably don't have the right background to read his papers, even though I'm reasonably competent in my own field). He's popular because he is a good speaker and a good popularizer.

I'll admit that I don't have the same nostalgic fondness for him that I have for those popularizers who were big when I was young, but that's because I'm old now, and I don't read popular science books very often anymore unless they have equations in them.

Dislike for the guy seems strange. I can't think of anything offensive or off-putting about him.
 
2012-06-05 03:12:01 PM  
I like that Dom Sagolla and Ted Koeppel pretty much negate each others' statements.

And why does Neil look so 'shooped in the Holyoke pic?

Where are my cookies?

And Tom Brokaw is right.
 
2012-06-05 03:12:14 PM  

mithras_angel: elk-tamer: sure haven't: I had no idea I was supposed to hate him.

Good writer, scientific rockstar. I like him.

"Hate" is a little strong, but you are supposed to be annoyed by him. Maybe if I read books or knew anything about his research, his personality would be easier to take.
What is one of his "rockstar" discoveries?

He is currently the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space, and a research associate in the department of astrophysics at the American Museum of Natural History. Since 2006 he has hosted the educational science television show NOVA scienceNOW on PBS.

He's got at least 17 honorary doctorates, and a list of his books includes:

Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier (2012) ISBN 0-393-08210-5
The Pluto Files: The Rise and Fall of America's Favorite Planet (2009) ISBN 0-393-06520-0
Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries (2007) ISBN 0-393-33016-8
The Sky Is Not the Limit: Adventures of an Urban Astrophysicist (1st ed. 2000 / 2nd ed. 2004) ISBN 978-1-59102-188-9
Origins: Fourteen Billion Years of Cosmic Evolution (co-authored with Donald Goldsmith) (2004) ISBN 0-393-32758-2
My Favorite Universe (A twelve part lecture series) (2003) ISBN 1-56585-663-5
City of Stars: A New Yorker's Guide to the Cosmos (2002)
Cosmic Horizons: Astronomy at the Cutting Edge (2000) ISBN 1-56584-602-8
One Universe: At Home in the Cosmos (2000) ISBN 0-309-06488-0
Just Visiting This Planet (1998) ISBN 0-385-48837-8
Universe Down to Earth (1994) ISBN 0-231-07560-X
Merlin's Tour of the Universe (1989) ISBN 0-385-48835-1


All of which you could have learned by going to wikipedia.

Since you seem to make a point about not reading books, perhaps you are one of the people he's referring to.


I don't know that wikipedia is where I would point people to, because from there it looks like his biggest accomplishment is promoting science and himself. While promoting science is certainly laudable, it makes him a rock star in the bieber sense, manufactured. Einstein, Feynman, Hubble... those are physics rock stars. Now, he may have actual groundbreaking work out there, but wikipedia certainly doesn't show it.
 
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