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(Daily Mail)   Out for a nice ride in the countryside on your motorbike ? That's a garroting   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 89
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2012-06-05 06:52:27 AM  
He had just been taken on by a jobs agency and said he was desperate to get back to work to support his one-year-old daughter, Remme-Mae, and her mother, Jordane, 21.

I see that the UK is trying to keep up with its big brother the US when it comes to very silly names.

If this happened how he says it happened then the people who garrotted him need to face some serious charges.

If he'd just buzzed them whilst illegally riding an illegal motorcycle in an illegal place that is actually a public footpath then I have some sympathy but they still need to be charged, unless they were really threatened and felt that they had to defend themselves somehow.

I particularly like his "'They could have called the police and they would have moved us on" comment, i.e. "I was doing something illegal, knew it was illegal, but wasn't going to stop unless the police told me to stop" defence.

"Green laning" as it is called can be an incredibly dangerous nuisance. There seem to be a lot of uninsured, unqualified idiots out there on illegal bikes who like to tear around the lanes and woods where people like to walk by themselves or with their kids and dogs. Walkers are unlikely to look at someone doing this and think "We can trust them not to knock us over or come bombing round a blind bend without checking it's clear."

I'm also very suspicious that he just asked for a go on somebody's motorbike and they agreed - why the hell would you just let a stranger jump on your bike and ride off?
 
2012-06-05 08:27:11 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

billwardwriter.com

 
2012-06-05 09:55:12 AM  
Whenever I see the word "garrote" I think of this guy:

www.movie-film-review.com
 
2012-06-05 10:13:19 AM  
Cool scar bro.
 
2012-06-05 10:48:16 AM  
Daemon involved?
 
2012-06-05 10:48:30 AM  
There can be only one!
 
2012-06-05 10:50:37 AM  
Doesn't look like a dBag at all. Everybody loves skinheads right?
 
2012-06-05 10:51:27 AM  
Here's the thing. I can empathize with the people who got him. It torques me off when people break rules on public-use land, but this is not the way to handle it. Call the police non-emergency number. Don't take matters into your own hands unless your life is in real danger.
 
2012-06-05 10:55:45 AM  
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2012-06-05 10:56:10 AM  
Ok, the article seems to indicate this actually happened in a field.

A field where he could see them, see they had a short dog lead (typically .5m to 5m lengths), and still buzzed in between them, in such a way that they could clothesline him with the leash.

I feel like his story needs more explanation on his keen powers of observation, since he observed their unruly looks BEFORE HE GOT ON THE BIKE but not the fact they were holding their dog leash taunt between them.
 
2012-06-05 10:57:29 AM  
There was a kid in my middle school that did this to a popular bike trail.

Bonus: his name was Bob Dylan.
 
2012-06-05 11:04:33 AM  

cgraves67: Here's the thing. I can empathize with the people who got him. It torques me off when people break rules on public-use land, but this is not the way to handle it. Call the police non-emergency number. Don't take matters into your own hands unless your life is in real danger.


Yeah, that way the cops show up two days later to take a report and look for anything to cite you for in revenge for taking them away from their seats and donuts.

The only reason to ever call the non-emergency number is to report something for insurance purposes. And even then, it'd better be worth a lot.
 
2012-06-05 11:05:05 AM  
FTA: "Perhaps I shouldn't have been but that was no way to react. You don't expect that from middle-aged people."

Ha. The little punk hasn't seen anything yet.
 
2012-06-05 11:05:37 AM  
Clothelining =/= Garroting
Guy sounds like a whighny biatch.
Or however Brits spell it.
 
2012-06-05 11:05:57 AM  
"I was being a COMPLETE douchenozzle and some people made me pay! Now I'm mad! I mean, I wasn't too hurt to go to work the next day. And even though my wound looks gnarly it really isn't that serious... but those people made me look bad! They deserve to be punished!"

Look, dude. You were acting like a douche and got what was coming to you. I'd call this whole thing a moral wash and just move on.
 
2012-06-05 11:06:45 AM  

cgraves67: Here's the thing. I can empathize with the people who got him. It torques me off when people break rules on public-use land, but this is not the way to handle it. Call the police non-emergency number. Don't take matters into your own hands unless your life is in real danger.


Therein lies my problem with it... sure, call the cops and they would have been told to "move on", no penalty of any sort, no motivation to stop riding where they weren't supposed to at some later time. Ok, so clothes-lining the punk was maybe a bit much. Maybe a "Hey, please don't ride here where you aren't supposed to", followed by a barrage of paintballs if he didn't comply, would be more in line.

Biatch-ass jackholes shouldn't be painted in such a victim light. Sure, I'll break rules like he did, but not with other people in such close proximity such that they could set up a damn dog leash to pull my dumb ass off a bike.
 
2012-06-05 11:09:39 AM  

Honest Bender: "I was being a COMPLETE douchenozzle and some people made me pay! Now I'm mad! I mean, I wasn't too hurt to go to work the next day. And even though my wound looks gnarly it really isn't that serious... but those people made me look bad! They deserve to be punished!"

Look, dude. You were acting like a douche and got what was coming to you. I'd call this whole thing a moral wash and just move on.


This.
 
2012-06-05 11:10:13 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: FTA: "Perhaps I shouldn't have been but that was no way to react. You don't expect that from middle-aged people."

Ha. The little punk hasn't seen anything yet.


Do not meddle in the affairs of adults, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
 
2012-06-05 11:11:06 AM  
I bet there's more to this story than can be gleaned from this article
 
2012-06-05 11:11:49 AM  
Yeah, he could have been decapitated, if things had been very different.
 
2012-06-05 11:15:45 AM  
I don't know if I buy this guy's story. It seems like if you clotheslined someone with a leash you were actually holding, you might take severe injury yourselves - it would be a hell of a lot of force on your hands, wrists and shoulders. On the other hand, people get tangled up in barbed wire or fenceline all of the time doing things like this, and sometimes they get it in the neck. Maybe this is what happened and he's making the story up for sympathy (probably to avoid/reduce legal charges from the teenagers he mugged for the motorbike).
 
2012-06-05 11:20:11 AM  
What happened to the dog?
 
2012-06-05 11:20:44 AM  
www.spaghettiwesternreplicas.com

Does not sympathize.
 
2012-06-05 11:23:28 AM  
Perhaps punque-ass skinhead boy will reconsider his motoring behavior going forward.

/I doubt his version of the story. Were they holding the leash and if so, how did they come away uninjured? What of the dog that was on the leash? Wanker's story doesn't hold up.
 
2012-06-05 11:23:45 AM  

Honest Bender: "I was being a COMPLETE douchenozzle and some people made me pay! Now I'm mad! I mean, I wasn't too hurt to go to work the next day. And even though my wound looks gnarly it really isn't that serious... but those people made me look bad! They deserve to be punished!"

Look, dude. You were acting like a douche and got what was coming to you. I'd call this whole thing a moral wash and just move on.


Totally. And next time you're over the speed limit, you should be run off the road. You totally have it coming. Jaywalking pedestrian? RUN THE ASSHAT OVER. Rule breakers need to be punished. Didn't clean up their after their dog? Beat him within an inch of his life.

/Proportional response FTW
//Everyone is an ITG
 
2012-06-05 11:27:09 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Doesn't look like a dBag at all. Everybody loves skinheads right?


I shave my head and ride a bike. My wife is also Jewish.
 
2012-06-05 11:30:06 AM  
guys lucky. some snowmobilers were riding through people's yards at night (like 12-1am) where i grew up and one of the locals strung up a clothes line through their favored path. when the snowmobilers called the cops (after one of them hit the line,) they ended up getting arrested for trespassing and got their machines confiscated by the police. turned out one of the other people who they had been waking up at 1am riding through yards was the town judge. they ended up paying a hefty fine, spent a few days in jail and the snowmobiles ended up getting badly damaged by "accident" at the police impound lot before they were returned. nothing happened to the person who put the line up because they just claimed they had left it up there since summer.
 
2012-06-05 11:31:50 AM  

Mitrovarr: I don't know if I buy this guy's story. It seems like if you clotheslined someone with a leash you were actually holding, you might take severe injury yourselves - it would be a hell of a lot of force on your hands, wrists and shoulders. On the other hand, people get tangled up in barbed wire or fenceline all of the time doing things like this, and sometimes they get it in the neck. Maybe this is what happened and he's making the story up for sympathy (probably to avoid/reduce legal charges from the teenagers he mugged for the motorbike).


If that was the case he is even more lucky. A buddy of mine had to be part of an investigation involving a lady getting decapitated when she lost control of her snowmobile. He was only there to represent the snowmobile company that worried for their own sake. He said all that happened was a ski got bumped sending her off path and she found a wire that just took her head off. Nobody was liable for lawsuit in that case. He just wished that it wasn't necessary for him to have to see her severed head to save a company from lawsuit.
 
2012-06-05 11:34:03 AM  
This is a real problem around here. There are hiking trails all over the place that are strictly designated for hiking, and motor vehicles (meaning bikes and quads) are strictly prohibited as they destroy the trails and create ruts that gather water when it rains, which is most of the time. (This creates erosion).

What you have is several people living around the neighborhood riding their dirt bikes along the trails anyway, and several neighbors and I have been going to a lot of trouble to use natural means to eliminate the easy pathways that the bikes can use. Chicanes made of fallen logs, piles of rocks, we've chopped down bridges made of trees that the bikers have cut down to widen the trails and cross streams. The bikers do not learn, and do not care. They clear the trails and cut down trees in the middle of the night. They create new trails around the obstacles. They cut across peoples property and through gardens to get around the obstacles we've put up. There is now serious talk about taking a more direct approach to the problem. Namely, setting up a situation where we can destroy the bikes. We know that we can't hurt people, and this thing with the clothesline or whatever across the trail is out of the question. But whoever is riding illegally needs to have their bikes taken away, and the Sheriff isn't going to do diddley jack squat about the problem.

Dirt bikers are farking assholes. All they do is destroy landscape and they don't give a rats ass about other peoples property.
 
2012-06-05 11:35:34 AM  
Cool successful deployment of sublethal negative reinforcement mechanism, bro.
 
2012-06-05 11:43:14 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Doesn't look like a dBag at all. Everybody loves skinheads right?


young guys with receding hairlines will keep their hair close.
 
2012-06-05 11:43:22 AM  

Sasquach: Totally. And next time you're over the speed limit, you should be run off the road. You totally have it coming. Jaywalking pedestrian? RUN THE ASSHAT OVER. Rule breakers need to be punished. Didn't clean up their after their dog? Beat him within an inch of his life.

/Proportional response FTW
//Everyone is an ITG


I don't know what point you were trying to make... You went a little heavy on the hyperbole. I guess all you really proved was that you don't have the ability to react to different circumstances with different responses. Congratulations?
 
2012-06-05 11:43:35 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

Daily Fail: 'Ok, we'll have our photographer there as well. So, can you squeeze your neck wound so it's all bloody and stuff? Yeah, take off any dressings and bandages they gave you in the hospital'.

BikerTwat: 'Do you think that'll be more sympathetic looking? It's very unhygienic and I don't want to catch any infections on it'.

Daily Fail: 'Nah, it'll be farking cool and might help you successfully sue the people who did it to you'.

BikerTwat: 'You think I can sue for money? Will I get more money if it looked really bad?

Daily Fail: 'Yeah, try scraping the wound with a knife; make it fresh looking. And make up some stupid names for your family. You'll come across as poor and thick. People love stories about the struggle of the underclass. Look for some African-American names on the internet for ideas'.
 
2012-06-05 11:45:00 AM  
"i know it was illegal, but..."
then don't do it asshat.

No decapitation.. lesson learned. Buzzing right between them was an asshat move.

I sure hope that wasn't my sister and her police boyfriend walking their dog.
 
2012-06-05 11:46:26 AM  
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2012-06-05 11:50:05 AM  
Sounds like it was on purpose. No way a dog leash can get to neck height if still attached to the dog.

I almost had same happen to me in Ohio once. Designated bicycle trail, also popular with walkers/joggers/etc. We're cruising along. I see a lady up ahead, and her dog over on the other side of the trail. Not until I got REAL close did I see the leash. Her on one side, the dog on the other, dumb beast on both ends of the leash.
It wouldn't have got me across the neck, but probably would have been tangled up in the bike parts.

I think I muttered something like 'jesus christ", and she gave me an evil look like it was my fault.
 
2012-06-05 11:52:26 AM  
When you're out for a ride on the green countryside
That's a garroting.
When you're trying to pass, and you're being an ass
That's a garroting.
When the line hits your neck, and it hurts like all heck,
That's a garroting....
 
2012-06-05 11:54:25 AM  

animal900:
I shave my head and ride a bike. My wife is also Jewish.


But do you look like a typical wannabe skinhead like this guy? Or do you look like Ton Jones or Mr. Clean?

Kanemano:
young guys with receding hairlines will keep their hair close.


This guy doesn't appear to have a receeding hairline.
 
2012-06-05 11:58:19 AM  

Honest Bender: Sasquach: Totally. And next time you're over the speed limit, you should be run off the road. You totally have it coming. Jaywalking pedestrian? RUN THE ASSHAT OVER. Rule breakers need to be punished. Didn't clean up their after their dog? Beat him within an inch of his life.

/Proportional response FTW
//Everyone is an ITG

I don't know what point you were trying to make... You went a little heavy on the hyperbole. I guess all you really proved was that you don't have the ability to react to different circumstances with different responses. Congratulations?


It appears my response was too complex for you as you walked away with baffling and incorrect assessment of my statement.

You said: "Look, dude. You were acting like a douche and got what was coming to you. I'd call this whole thing a moral wash and just move on."
I pointed out: 1) In this case, causing bodily harm to someone that caused you no harm is a disproportionate response. You didn't like what they were doing and set a trap with the sole purpose of harming them. 2) I cited other incidents of people "being douches" and attached other disproportionate responses in order to highlight the foolishness of the idea that "he got what was coming to him".

Does that clear it up tough guy?

/probably been trolled
//been a while
 
2012-06-05 12:05:05 PM  
How's that 'I can do anything I want' attitude thingy workin' out there for ya dude?

/off my lawn....
 
2012-06-05 12:09:05 PM  
Deathfrogg

This is a real problem around here. There are hiking trails all over the place that are strictly designated for hiking, and motor vehicles (meaning bikes and quads) are strictly prohibited as they destroy the trails and create ruts that gather water when it rains, which is most of the time. (This creates erosion).

What you have is several people living around the neighborhood riding their dirt bikes along the trails anyway, and several neighbors and I have been going to a lot of trouble to use natural means to eliminate the easy pathways that the bikes can use. Chicanes made of fallen logs, piles of rocks, we've chopped down bridges made of trees that the bikers have cut down to widen the trails and cross streams. The bikers do not learn, and do not care. They clear the trails and cut down trees in the middle of the night. They create new trails around the obstacles. They cut across peoples property and through gardens to get around the obstacles we've put up. There is now serious talk about taking a more direct approach to the problem. Namely, setting up a situation where we can destroy the bikes. We know that we can't hurt people, and this thing with the clothesline or whatever across the trail is out of the question. But whoever is riding illegally needs to have their bikes taken away, and the Sheriff isn't going to do diddley jack squat about the problem.

Dirt bikers are farking assholes. All they do is destroy landscape and they don't give a rats ass about other peoples property.


Trails erode because they are poorly built and constructed. Dirt bikes (ridden properly) do less damage than equestrian, cyclists and hikers. I can show you badly eroded foot paths only recently built and I can take you to trails that have 40 years of motorized use that show little erosion.
Yes there are assholes on dirt bikes there are asshole hikers too. The point is, you're dealing with a small group of people you probably have made no effort to talk to. Instead of pulling this internet tough guy shiat, go talk to these folks. How about the local riding clubs? If there are folks who also ride dirtbikes who don't appreciate what these guys are doing they might be able to help put it to a stop. They are not doing anybodies access any favors.
Making idle threats on the internet that you're going to destroy someones stuff is pathetic, and the fact you would injure or maim someone over something so trivial would suggest you have anger issues.
 
2012-06-05 12:13:55 PM  

A field where he could see them, see they had a short dog lead (typically .5m to 5m lengths), and still buzzed in between them, in such a way that they could clothesline him with the leash.


exactly. there is an awful lot of unexplained stuff which makes me think 'symapthy? Nah!'
 
2012-06-05 12:25:53 PM  

New Age Redneck: Yes there are assholes on dirt bikes there are asshole hikers too.


hahaha... that was pure master troll until there! yeah, damn those asshole hikers, all walking quietly at a slow pace in the woods enjoying nature and exercise! why, sometimes when dirt bikers are illegally ripping through the woods, scaring off any living creature within 50 miles and tearing up the ground, the hikers don't even have the courtesy to dive out of the way before they get clipped! what a bunch of turds!
 
2012-06-05 12:42:51 PM  

New Age Redneck: The point is, you're dealing with a small group of people you probably have made no effort to talk to...


Farking save it. You know what some little piss head is going to say if you try to politely ask them to stop being a little piss head? Fark you, that's what. Don't farking act like all you have to do is act reasonably towards a person that has shown no proclivity for reasonableness themselves.
 
2012-06-05 12:48:23 PM  
Pfft. Aunt Bea had this idea 50 years ago in Mayberry when Barney was driving his stupid World War I motorcycle. She wanted to string piano wire across the road. Andy balked though, saying "But Aunt Bea, we don't wanna KILL him!"
 
2012-06-05 12:49:03 PM  
Should have used piano wire, problem solved
 
2012-06-05 12:55:42 PM  
"I seem to have injured my neck riding a stolen motorbike. Better come up with some story about borrowing the bike and being attacked so that I don't get arrested and lose my job when the police find me lying here in a pool of blood..."
 
2012-06-05 01:10:14 PM  

New Age Redneck:

Trails erode because they are poorly built and constructed. Dirt bikes (ridden properly) do less damage than equestrian, cyclists and hikers. I can show you badly eroded foot paths only recently built and I can take you to trails that have 40 years of motorized use that show little erosion.
Yes there are assholes on dirt bikes there are asshole hikers too. The point is, you're dealing with a small group of people you probably have made no effort to talk to. Instead of pulling this internet tough guy shiat, go talk to these folks. How about the local riding clubs? If there are folks who also ride dirtbikes who don't appreciate what these guys are doing they might be able to help put it to a stop. They are not doing anybodies access any favors.
Making idle threats on the internet that you're going to destroy someones stuff is pathetic, and the fact you would injure or maim someone over something so trivial would suggest you have anger issues.


The local riding clubs have told us to fark off. Literally. Every effort has been made to talk to these idiots, including hiring lawyers and going to the local Legislators and the County Sheriff.

The biking club says it isn't their business because their members don't do this shiat, (which is a lie). The local white trash bikers have ignored the signage, torn it down and vandalized property including tearing down fences and cutting through property. I specifically stated that hurting people not an option, so that is your first lie. Those trails have existed for many decades without damage from people riding horses or walking. It wasn't until the trailer park up the road that used to be a private campground until 25 years ago changed ownership and became a permanent trailer park full of alcoholic, redneck trash people that this became an issue. Tea Party people. The folks that all seem to hate the government and post signs about it in their yards. The Sheriff is out there 20-30 times a week for domestic violence, murders, meth labs, rapes, burglaries, reckless shooting calls and stolen cars being wrecked in peoples yards. The place went from being a rather nice, quiet camping spot to a wrecking yard full of garbage.

We've had people bowled over by bikers on the trails. We've had trails turned into mud pits by these jerks. We've had new trails cut through old growth forest that turn into muddy runoff streams that cut across existing trails. Huge trees have been cut down to create new trails or provide building materials for jumps, bridges and other "fun things to ride on". We spent a week tearing down a set of berms on trails that nobody new existed until the property owner went out on his own little trail that connected to the main set of State trails.

Walkers do not do the damage in ten years that a pair of dirt bikes can do in a single day, so that is your second lie. I know this, because many of the local property owners here are retired forestry, watershed and hiking or climbing experts. Real ones. People with Ph.Ds and masters degrees and decades of experience in their fields. Geologists and Biologists. People who retired out here specifically because it was clean, old-growth deep forest that was still mostly in it's natural state.

The State laws are very specific as to the proper, legal use of the area. Those laws prohibit motor vehicles of any type on these trails. That is an absolute. The Sheriff has 20 deputies for a county that covers 2200 square miles. He's a good man, and sympathetic. He does not have the manpower to have people sitting on the trails waiting for bikers to ticket, which is all that would happen.

So we are exploring ideas on what to do. Destroying peoples motorbikes IS an option.
 
2012-06-05 01:11:46 PM  
tlchwi02

New Age Redneck: Yes there are assholes on dirt bikes there are asshole hikers too.

hahaha... that was pure master troll until there! yeah, damn those asshole hikers, all walking quietly at a slow pace in the woods enjoying nature and exercise! why, sometimes when dirt bikers are illegally ripping through the woods, scaring off any living creature within 50 miles and tearing up the ground, the hikers don't even have the courtesy to dive out of the way before they get clipped! what a bunch of turds!


You know how I know you don't ever go outside.

I hike, mountain bike and ride motorcycles. I have hiked trails that have never seen any other users others than foot traffic they by far have more garbage and erosion issues than any motorized trail. The Santa Cruz valley in Peru is a great example you could not get lost because you are following a trail of garbage.
Out of all the users I encounter hikers are far the biggest douchebags followed a close second my the nouveau sport-yuppie mountain bikers.
Bottom line is there is plenty of space for everyone. Funny that where I live all the user groups have for the most part shared the trails and have been more than civil to each other.
Can't just go for a walk without biatching about someone else having fun can you?

StrangeQ

New Age Redneck: The point is, you're dealing with a small group of people you probably have made no effort to talk to...

Farking save it. You know what some little piss head is going to say if you try to politely ask them to stop being a little piss head? Fark you, that's what. Don't farking act like all you have to do is act reasonably towards a person that has shown no proclivity for reasonableness themselves.


Yes, assault and vandalism is so much more civil and not at all likely to aggravate the situation. Pardon me.
 
2012-06-05 01:15:31 PM  

New Age Redneck: Yes there are assholes on dirt bikes there are asshole hikers too. The point is, you're dealing with a small group of people you probably have made no effort to talk to. Instead of pulling this internet tough guy shiat, go talk to these folks.


omfg.... talk about being an assumptive asshole. Nice that you used 'probably', which is a good backout strategy. for ITG's

What you're saying is similar to "all gunowners aren't like that. Most of us use ultra super safe methods of shooting and preach responsible gun ownership to anyone who will listen. That guy using the pedestrian walkway as shooting range should just be talked to, and asked nicely to move on"

Yes, the comparison of illegality/lethality/mentality is coherent and valid. The silly wee prick in TFA was putting the lives of others in danger with his actions.

If he'd actually hit someone, would you still be defending him, claiming he's just some misunderstood little boy who doesn't know any better?

If he was taking his one year old on a nice country walk would he feel the same about uninsured MCing, illegally, on an overgrown pedestrian footpath?

Personal Responsibility, man... that's what he should have learned from all this. That and us 30-40 somethings can have had a previous, sometimes quite shady, lives. He may only see a couple of 'middle-agers', bit the truth is that his scrawny little thug ass deserved to get smacked to the ground.

Oh, and you suck.
 
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