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2012-06-05 10:01:30 AM
3 votes:
Dark City. The Directors cut made it a mystery, while the theatrical version had 5 minutes of exposition in the opening scene laying out the entire plot.
2012-06-05 11:43:41 PM
1 votes:

Mofo_Jones: stagirite:
List is wrong to include Blade Runner. DECKARD IS NOT A REPLICANT.

Agreed. He's human. I don't care what Ridley Scott says. I think EJO was messing with Deckard at the end, that's all.



THIS.

If he is a replicant then in the end he basically just realizes that he's a replicant and will probably be "retired".

If he's a human being, then in the end he's had to question what it means to be human and he realizes what people have been doing (creating disposable people) is wrong.

I think the movie makes a lot more sense, and is a LOT more poignant, if Deckard is human. When I added Blade Runner to my media collection I added the theatrical cut.
2012-06-05 09:02:59 PM
1 votes:
The difference in the ST:TMP Directors Cut is that they got to actually finish the damn thing. Paramount was so tied into their release date that the sound FX never got a chance to get totally integrated -as well as most of the visual FX as well. Plus Wise cut a lot of the 'Sulu/Decker/Uhura staring at the V'GR' shots, and inserted a couple of important character scenes - especially the scene of Spock crying, realizing that logic is not everything, and that V'GR would never understand that - without help. That's only the most important plot point in the movie! That way, the whole Decker merging with V'GR thing almost makes sense.
2012-06-05 12:30:41 PM
1 votes:

stagirite:
List is wrong to include Blade Runner. DECKARD IS NOT A REPLICANT.


Agreed. He's human. I don't care what Ridley Scott says. I think EJO was messing with Deckard at the end, that's all.

nicoffeine: Star Trek: The Motion Picture should be here. It feels more like a movie than the original. I have no idea how to say it other than that.


Oh, the original version is a movie....the DC is a better movie. There were a couple of extremely minor changes that I didn't like, but otherwise it is highly superior to the original.
2012-06-05 11:36:10 AM
1 votes:

SuperChuck: I don't get the love for Kingdom of Heaven. Having a guy running around during the Crusades saying "can't we all just get along" is too silly for me to take seriously.


Since there was no one doing that during the movie, I have no idea what you're talking about. The most peaceful characters, at best, were attempting to keep the peace and prevent a gore-fest. There weren't any attempts at singing Kumbaya. They just didn't want everyone in the city dying because a few fundy warmongers wanted to start a fight.
2012-06-05 11:15:42 AM
1 votes:

SuperChuck: I don't get the love for Kingdom of Heaven. Having a guy running around during the Crusades saying "can't we all just get along" is too silly for me to take seriously.


Yes, because everyone during the Crusades was a bloodthirsty savage. No one back then liked living in peace.
2012-06-05 10:33:39 AM
1 votes:
Oh, also, Kingdom of Heaven is an f-ng good movie. It surprised me.
2012-06-05 10:32:27 AM
1 votes:
I thought the directors cut of "Payback" was rather horrible.

These two lists seem to be reversed.
2012-06-05 10:28:19 AM
1 votes:

thecpt: TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

Ok, I keep hearing that over and over again and I already liked the original (honestly an underrated film). I'm going to have to try it. It's weird that Orlando really can carry a movie, but my opinion might be biased because eva green was in it.


There is so much more movie in the director's cut. It's difficult to express how different the movie feels. It turns it from a three star movie that appeals to a specific group to a four or five star movie that should be watched by all. Comparing it to Ben-Hur isn't a stretch.
2012-06-05 10:14:44 AM
1 votes:
I thought the Watchmen movie was greatly improved by the director's cut. Made it feel so much less disjointed.
2012-06-05 09:55:13 AM
1 votes:

OldManDownDRoad: thecpt: stoli n coke:

The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.

THAT WAS HIM!!!!!!????
...wtf... wow. I feel like and idiot.

Don't feel bad, I was in that camp too.

In fact, I didn't feel like downloading, er, buying the director's cut until someone on Fark mentioned that it was Norton. WTF? Srsly?

But it's indeed a better movie in the DC. The only thing I enjoyed about the theatrical release was Eva Green. The DC of KoH is a pretty good movie, if for no other reason than it explains how Balian goes from blacksmith to military genius in 15 minutes.

/and David Thewlis as the Hospitaler is GREAT


This. I remember watching the director's cut and wondering why people thought that it had been bad. Apparently I had indeed watched a different movie.
2012-06-05 09:50:42 AM
1 votes:

thecpt: stoli n coke:

The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.

THAT WAS HIM!!!!!!????
...wtf... wow. I feel like and idiot.


Don't feel bad, I was in that camp too.

In fact, I didn't feel like downloading, er, buying the director's cut until someone on Fark mentioned that it was Norton. WTF? Srsly?

But it's indeed a better movie in the DC. The only thing I enjoyed about the theatrical release was Eva Green. The DC of KoH is a pretty good movie, if for no other reason than it explains how Balian goes from blacksmith to military genius in 15 minutes.

/and David Thewlis as the Hospitaler is GREAT
2012-06-05 09:36:38 AM
1 votes:

Gunther: DamnYankees: If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.

Yeah. It's hard to think of a movie that's so vastly improved by a director's cut. The theatrical version doesn't just wreck the pacing, it cuts out all the scenes that convey character motivation and development, as well as some fantastic acting. You can't even say it was to make it more of an action movie, as they even cut out the (excellent) climactic duel between Balian and Guy de Frenchyname. It really does feel like it was done solely to ruin the film.
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Getting the run time under 2 hours gets you an extra showing per screen. They didn't stop to think that if the movie sucks no one will see it.
2012-06-05 09:35:21 AM
1 votes:
Troy...Troy...TROY! Cumon! It was no Blade Runner, but it turned a "meh" movie into a pretty dang good one!
2012-06-05 09:32:54 AM
1 votes:
analysis.ucoz.com
2012-06-05 09:30:44 AM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.


Yeah. It's hard to think of a movie that's so vastly improved by a director's cut. The theatrical version doesn't just wreck the pacing, it cuts out all the scenes that convey character motivation and development, as well as some fantastic acting. You can't even say it was to make it more of an action movie, as they even cut out the (excellent) climactic duel between Balian and Guy de Frenchyname. It really does feel like it was done solely to ruin the film.

ScreamingLemur46: I liked Payback as it was. I guess I need to see the re-cut version.


I've seen both, and vastly prefer the theatrical. The article is dead-on when it says the Director's Cut is more of a serious noir and less of an action/black comedy, but the movie works much better as an action comedy than it does as a noir.
2012-06-05 09:12:01 AM
1 votes:

thecpt: TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

Ok, I keep hearing that over and over again and I already liked the original (honestly an underrated film). I'm going to have to try it. It's weird that Orlando really can carry a movie, but my opinion might be biased because eva green was in it.


The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.
2012-06-05 09:07:41 AM
1 votes:

TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical


Ok, I keep hearing that over and over again and I already liked the original (honestly an underrated film). I'm going to have to try it. It's weird that Orlando really can carry a movie, but my opinion might be biased because eva green was in it.
2012-06-05 09:06:38 AM
1 votes:

TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical


d/c of Gladiator was better too.

/lesson -- if it's a ridley scott movie, wait for dvd.
2012-06-05 08:55:51 AM
1 votes:
If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.
2012-06-05 08:55:40 AM
1 votes:
kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.
2012-06-05 08:53:14 AM
1 votes:
apocalypse now is #1 improved with director's cut and #1 worse with director's cut.

/The making-of documentary "hearts of darkness" is better than both versions of the movie.
 
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