BRADE RUNNEL!

I agree with most especially Payback. I'd also add Chronicles of Riddick

apocalypse now is #1 improved with director's cut and #1 worse with director's cut.

/The making-of documentary "hearts of darkness" is better than both versions of the movie.

kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Missing the original "director's cut" movie, Brazil.

carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

I would be interested in seeing the recut of Swing Shift. I remember it being a good and ambitious movie.

TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

d/c of Gladiator was better too.

/lesson -- if it's a ridley scott movie, wait for dvd.

Tyrone Slothrop


Missing the original "director's cut" movie, Brazil.


This is why I came in here.....The original 142 minutes European release.

TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

Ok, I keep hearing that over and over again and I already liked the original (honestly an underrated film). I'm going to have to try it. It's weird that Orlando really can carry a movie, but my opinion might be biased because eva green was in it.

thecpt: TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

Ok, I keep hearing that over and over again and I already liked the original (honestly an underrated film). I'm going to have to try it. It's weird that Orlando really can carry a movie, but my opinion might be biased because eva green was in it.

The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.

I liked Payback as it was. I guess I need to see the re-cut version.

ScreamingLemur46: I liked Payback as it was. I guess I need to see the re-cut version.

I did, too. I'm not entirely sure how Mel Gibson played his character as "goofy".

stoli n coke:

The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.

THAT WAS HIM!!!!!!????
...wtf... wow. I feel like and idiot.

DamnYankees: If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.

Yeah. It's hard to think of a movie that's so vastly improved by a director's cut. The theatrical version doesn't just wreck the pacing, it cuts out all the scenes that convey character motivation and development, as well as some fantastic acting. You can't even say it was to make it more of an action movie, as they even cut out the (excellent) climactic duel between Balian and Guy de Frenchyname. It really does feel like it was done solely to ruin the film.

ScreamingLemur46: I liked Payback as it was. I guess I need to see the re-cut version.

I've seen both, and vastly prefer the theatrical. The article is dead-on when it says the Director's Cut is more of a serious noir and less of an action/black comedy, but the movie works much better as an action comedy than it does as a noir.

Troy...Troy...TROY! Cumon! It was no Blade Runner, but it turned a "meh" movie into a pretty dang good one!

Gunther: DamnYankees: If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.

Yeah. It's hard to think of a movie that's so vastly improved by a director's cut. The theatrical version doesn't just wreck the pacing, it cuts out all the scenes that convey character motivation and development, as well as some fantastic acting. You can't even say it was to make it more of an action movie, as they even cut out the (excellent) climactic duel between Balian and Guy de Frenchyname. It really does feel like it was done solely to ruin the film.
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Getting the run time under 2 hours gets you an extra showing per screen. They didn't stop to think that if the movie sucks no one will see it.

Saying Heaven's Gate the director's cut is better than the theatrical release is like saying, well, Highlander 2 The Quickening director's cut is better than the theatrical release. Both are highly unwatchable and the improvements are so few that warrant little notice, or caring.

thecpt: stoli n coke:

The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.

THAT WAS HIM!!!!!!????
...wtf... wow. I feel like and idiot.

Don't feel bad, I was in that camp too.

In fact, I didn't feel like downloading, er, buying the director's cut until someone on Fark mentioned that it was Norton. WTF? Srsly?

But it's indeed a better movie in the DC. The only thing I enjoyed about the theatrical release was Eva Green. The DC of KoH is a pretty good movie, if for no other reason than it explains how Balian goes from blacksmith to military genius in 15 minutes.

/and David Thewlis as the Hospitaler is GREAT

OldManDownDRoad: thecpt: stoli n coke:

The director's cut is worth it alone just for Ed Norton's performance as the leper king. Dude gave a career highlight performance without even showing his face.

THAT WAS HIM!!!!!!????
...wtf... wow. I feel like and idiot.

Don't feel bad, I was in that camp too.

In fact, I didn't feel like downloading, er, buying the director's cut until someone on Fark mentioned that it was Norton. WTF? Srsly?

But it's indeed a better movie in the DC. The only thing I enjoyed about the theatrical release was Eva Green. The DC of KoH is a pretty good movie, if for no other reason than it explains how Balian goes from blacksmith to military genius in 15 minutes.

/and David Thewlis as the Hospitaler is GREAT

This. I remember watching the director's cut and wondering why people thought that it had been bad. Apparently I had indeed watched a different movie.

List is missing "The Abyss"

RevCarter: List is missing "The Abyss"

Look at the other list

Carth: Gunther: DamnYankees: If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.

Yeah. It's hard to think of a movie that's so vastly improved by a director's cut. The theatrical version doesn't just wreck the pacing, it cuts out all the scenes that convey character motivation and development, as well as some fantastic acting. You can't even say it was to make it more of an action movie, as they even cut out the (excellent) climactic duel between Balian and Guy de Frenchyname. It really does feel like it was done solely to ruin the film.
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Getting the run time under 2 hours gets you an extra showing per screen. They didn't stop to think that if the movie sucks no one will see it.

That tends to happen when studios spend $100 million on an R-rated flick. They have to get their money back somehow, and nowadays, you usually only have about 2 weeks to do it theatrically..

Plus, there was pressure on Ridley Scott to basically turn in Gladiator 2, which Kingdom of Heaven wasn't.

I remember seeing it in theaters and hating it. I avoided the director's cut for years before finally caving in and checking it out. I'm glad I did.

I thought the Watchmen movie was greatly improved by the director's cut. Made it feel so much less disjointed.

DamnYankees: Carth: Gunther: DamnYankees: If Kingdom of Heaven isn't No. 1, no cred.

Yeah. It's hard to think of a movie that's so vastly improved by a director's cut. The theatrical version doesn't just wreck the pacing, it cuts out all the scenes that convey character motivation and development, as well as some fantastic acting. You can't even say it was to make it more of an action movie, as they even cut out the (excellent) climactic duel between Balian and Guy de Frenchyname. It really does feel like it was done solely to ruin the film.
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Getting the run time under 2 hours gets you an extra showing per screen. They didn't stop to think that if the movie sucks no one will see it.

But the theatrical cut still had a run time of 2:30 or something like that. Just dumb.

Yea, it says in the article "At 20th Century Fox's behest, the theatrical version ran just under two and a half hours" I imagine the difference between 2.5 hours and 3.25 is another showing each day as well. Either way it was a terrible decision.

HeartBurnKid: I thought the Watchmen movie was greatly improved by the director's cut. Made it feel so much less disjointed.

I agree. I haven't seen the super-extended director's cut, though. I don't know if it's worth tracking down.

thecpt: TravisBickle62: carnage4u: kingdom of heaven directors cut is amazing.

Yeah it was pretty good, much better than theatrical

Ok, I keep hearing that over and over again and I already liked the original (honestly an underrated film). I'm going to have to try it. It's weird that Orlando really can carry a movie, but my opinion might be biased because eva green was in it.

There is so much more movie in the director's cut. It's difficult to express how different the movie feels. It turns it from a three star movie that appeals to a specific group to a four or five star movie that should be watched by all. Comparing it to Ben-Hur isn't a stretch.

HeartBurnKid: I thought the Watchmen movie was greatly improved by the director's cut. Made it feel so much less disjointed.

Agree entirely.

List is wrong to include Blade Runner. DECKARD IS NOT A REPLICANT.

What?!? no Superman II??

I thought the directors cut of "Payback" was rather horrible.

These two lists seem to be reversed.

Oh, also, Kingdom of Heaven is an f-ng good movie. It surprised me.

Pick up the original cut of Die Hard with a Vengenance. It's much more entertaining with blood.and F-bombs

Perlin Noise: What?!? no Superman II??

After watching the Donner cut it was easy to see where the Superman franchise started going downhill. Yeah, I know he reused the ending from Superman, but his original intent was to have a cliffhanger ending at the end of Superman and the spinning around the Earth thing to reverse everything. After all, he did go back in time to save Lois but still let the town get flooded after the dam bursts.

hipswiggle: Pick up the original cut of Die Hard with a Vengenance. It's much more entertaining with blood.and F-bombs

wait.. there is a different version?

I don't get the love for Kingdom of Heaven. Having a guy running around during the Crusades saying "can't we all just get along" is too silly for me to take seriously.

SuperChuck: I don't get the love for Kingdom of Heaven. Having a guy running around during the Crusades saying "can't we all just get along" is too silly for me to take seriously.

That movie bored me horribly. Do you know what would have been awesome to have happen in that movie?

Something.

Anything!

zipdog: Perlin Noise: What?!? no Superman II??

After watching the Donner cut it was easy to see where the Superman franchise started going downhill. Yeah, I know he reused the ending from Superman, but his original intent was to have a cliffhanger ending at the end of Superman and the spinning around the Earth thing to reverse everything. After all, he did go back in time to save Lois but still let the town get flooded after the dam bursts.

There's a fan edit out there that combines the best of the Donner cut with the best of the Lester cut -- it's easily superior to either.

DamnYankees: SuperChuck: I don't get the love for Kingdom of Heaven. Having a guy running around during the Crusades saying "can't we all just get along" is too silly for me to take seriously.

Yes, because everyone during the Crusades was a bloodthirsty savage. No one back then liked living in peace.

I'd think that that sort of person would be more likely to stay away from the Crusades rather than jump into the middle of it.

flaminio: it's easily superior to either.

As long as there are no goofy sound effects or ice cream hitting someone in the face or silly translucent vinyl net thing thrown from the S insignia, its better.

Perlin Noise: hipswiggle: Pick up the original cut of Die Hard with a Vengenance. It's much more entertaining with blood.and F-bombs

wait.. there is a different version?

Yes there is. The studio pushed for the PG-13 theatrical version.

Kingdom of Heaven was the best director's cut I've ever seen. It was a whole different (and vastly improved) movie.

hipswiggle: PG-13 theatrical version.

Are you sure you are not thinking about "Live Free or Die Hard"? I don't remember "with a vengeance" being PG-13.

SuperChuck: I don't get the love for Kingdom of Heaven. Having a guy running around during the Crusades saying "can't we all just get along" is too silly for me to take seriously.

Since there was no one doing that during the movie, I have no idea what you're talking about. The most peaceful characters, at best, were attempting to keep the peace and prevent a gore-fest. There weren't any attempts at singing Kumbaya. They just didn't want everyone in the city dying because a few fundy warmongers wanted to start a fight.