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(New Zealand Herald)   If you're tossing out an old emergency beacon, make sure it's turned off or else police will have to dig through heaps of trash to find it at the landfill after rescuers pick up its signal   (nzherald.co.nz ) divider line
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2012-06-05 10:46:49 AM  
You have to be really careful when forsaking beacon; you can burn your junk.
 
2012-06-05 10:56:11 AM  
The cops and firefighters do NOT have a sense of humor about false emergency beacon. My friends kid activated the beacon on his Tag watch.

They were not amused. I was, but they were not.
 
2012-06-05 11:11:35 AM  
If you go searching for the emergency beacon, will you end up being betrayed by Bilbo Baggins and be forced to knock his head off with a fire extinguisher?
 
2012-06-05 12:32:25 PM  
I read the beginning of the headline and asked, "Why the hell would you throw out emergency bacon".
 
2012-06-05 12:38:46 PM  
Isn't it illegal almost everywhere to throw batteries in the garbage?
 
2012-06-05 12:43:42 PM  
I'm unclear as to why they had to continue to search for it once the registered owner told them what had happened. You know there's no emergency, so just let the batteries run down.

Any experts in rescue beacon law or etiquette who can explain this?
 
2012-06-05 12:46:06 PM  

cmunic8r99: I read the beginning of the headline and asked, "Why the hell would you throw out emergency bacon".

 
2012-06-05 12:48:23 PM  
They all sound the same, so if ones going off all the time it could drown out a real alarm. Without triangulating it's location you wouldn't know if another was on.
 
2012-06-05 12:48:45 PM  
i76.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-05 12:48:52 PM  

Airportmatt: I'm unclear as to why they had to continue to search for it once the registered owner told them what had happened. You know there's no emergency, so just let the batteries run down.

Any experts in rescue beacon law or etiquette who can explain this?


A beacon likely just broadcasts a really loud signal in all directions. It's basically sitting there screaming HELP HELP HELP on a radio frequency (or frequencies). some of the new ones will go search for a specific sat and talk directly to it, but odds are it is just a radio beacon.

So you have to find it and kill it in case someone else nearby has a real emergency and turns their beacon on. You might not hear the second beacon screaming (or hear it clearly) if the first beacon is still screaming.

/plus those suckers have some impressive battery life
 
2012-06-05 12:49:26 PM  
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
 
2012-06-05 12:50:46 PM  
I take it this was not a marine emergency beacon (EPIRB)? You'd think that once they discovered it was in the landfill, they could have just ignored it. Perhaps there is a reason to not have errant signals floating around though...
 
2012-06-05 12:54:50 PM  

kid_icarus: [i76.photobucket.com image 360x242]


" GALAHAD: I seek the Grail! I have seen it, here in this castle!
DINGO: No! Oh, no! Bad, bad Zoot!
GALAHAD: What is it?
DINGO: Oh, wicked, bad, naughty Zoot! She has been setting alight
to our beacon, which, I just remembered, is grail-shaped. It's not the
first time we've had this problem.
GALAHAD: It's not the real Grail?
DINGO: Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot! Oh, she is a naughty
person, and she must pay the penalty -- and here in Castle Anthrax, we
have but one punishment for setting alight the grail-shaped beacon. You
must tie her down on a bed and spank her!
GIRLS: A spanking! A spanking!
DINGO: You must spank her well. And after you have spanked her, you
may deal with her as you like. And then, spank me.
VARIOUS GIRLS: And spank me.
And me.
And me.
DINGO: Yes, yes, you must give us all a good spanking!
GIRLS: A spanking! A spanking!
DINGO: And after the spanking, the oral sex.
GIRLS: Oral sex! Oral sex!
GALAHAD: Well, I could stay a BIT longer."

/came for this, leaving satisfied
 
2012-06-05 01:01:19 PM  

Sybarite: If you go searching for the emergency beacon, will you end up being betrayed by Bilbo Baggins and be forced to knock his head off with a fire extinguisher?


Was that an SS13 reference?
 
2012-06-05 01:03:01 PM  

kvinesknows: Isn't it illegal almost everywhere to throw batteries in the garbage?


Doesn't everyone everywhere throw batteries in the garbage?
 
2012-06-05 01:03:56 PM  
I'm glad to see that the beacon works so well. Have they found it yet?
 
2012-06-05 01:04:32 PM  
I read a story years (decades) ago where a local-oscillator in someone's TV had drifted and began resonating at the EPIRB frequency of 406MHz.

Helicopters, police, the whole nine yards. They were not amused either.
 
2012-06-05 01:06:09 PM  
Even worse - throw one into your swimming pool because the flashing light looks cool:

http://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/safety/lifeguards-sky
 
2012-06-05 01:06:11 PM  
i45.photobucket.com

What an emergency beacon might look like.

/oh, wait...
 
2012-06-05 01:06:45 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Airportmatt: I'm unclear as to why they had to continue to search for it once the registered owner told them what had happened. You know there's no emergency, so just let the batteries run down.

Any experts in rescue beacon law or etiquette who can explain this?

A beacon likely just broadcasts a really loud signal in all directions. It's basically sitting there screaming HELP HELP HELP on a radio frequency (or frequencies). some of the new ones will go search for a specific sat and talk directly to it, but odds are it is just a radio beacon.

So you have to find it and kill it in case someone else nearby has a real emergency and turns their beacon on. You might not hear the second beacon screaming (or hear it clearly) if the first beacon is still screaming.

/plus those suckers have some impressive battery life


When I was in CAP, I found one EPIRB that was in the trunk of a guy's car. He was cleaning out the garage, and found his old EPIRB from the boat he had sold 15 years earlier. He tossed it in the trunk to bring it down to the marina to let them deal with it. Batteries were 13 years expired, and it still worked just fine.

Especially for the old 121.5mhz ELT/EPIRB/PLB, one broadcasting will make it near impossible to hear others. Another time, we ended up finding three different planes with ELTs going off after a windstorm came through. We found the first one, shut it off, and then started heading back to base when we heard another one. ELTs are g-force activated.

/CSB^2
 
2012-06-05 01:06:46 PM  

grandma's famous pot pie recipe: kvinesknows: Isn't it illegal almost everywhere to throw batteries in the garbage?

Doesn't everyone everywhere throw batteries in the garbage?


rarely is their proof though.. like in this instance there is.
 
2012-06-05 01:09:29 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: I read a story years (decades) ago where a local-oscillator in someone's TV had drifted and began resonating at the EPIRB frequency of 406MHz.

Helicopters, police, the whole nine yards. They were not amused either.


Likely not 406mhz. Happens all the time with 121.5mhz.

I've personally found a fax machine broadcasting on 121.5mhz and know people who have found a pizza oven, arcade machine and a computer monitor broadcasting on121.5mhz. The monitor was at an FAA facility.
 
2012-06-05 01:17:17 PM  

kvinesknows: Isn't it illegal almost everywhere to throw batteries in the garbage?


Great idea! If they can't get him for throwing away a beacon, they should be able to nail him for improper battery disposal. Sort of like taking down Capone for tax evasion.
 
2012-06-05 01:20:47 PM  
The obvious solution would be to incinerate the entire dump.
 
2012-06-05 01:24:27 PM  

kvinesknows: Isn't it illegal almost everywhere to throw batteries in the garbage?


it's good sense to save the nasties for those bi-annual 'bring in god knows whatever you people have collected in town' days. they are equipped to parcel out the many items we shouldn't be tossing in the wastebin.
 
2012-06-05 01:26:22 PM  
I did my OJT at a search and rescue squadron. A few times a year an aircraft gets launched for crap like this. Even got one under a Christmas tree. Up here you can be billed for a false SAR call out and it ain't cheap.
Have go find the things they hide real signals.

Cheers
 
2012-06-05 01:29:58 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: I read a story years (decades) ago where a local-oscillator in someone's TV had drifted and began resonating at the EPIRB frequency of 406MHz.

Helicopters, police, the whole nine yards. They were not amused either.


If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was in Corvallis, Oregon. I don't see the articles that ran in either the local or college papers, but here's a NYT article on it: http://www.nytimes.com/learning/teachers/featured_articles/20041102tue sday.html
 
2012-06-05 01:53:14 PM  

kvinesknows: Isn't it illegal almost everywhere to throw batteries in the garbage?


I toss mine in the fire.
Poor man's fireworks.
 
2012-06-05 01:58:42 PM  

cmunic8r99: I read the beginning of the headline and asked, "Why the hell would you throw out emergency bacon".


Yep.
 
2012-06-05 02:05:31 PM  
I am awaiting new glasses, and I thought the headline began "Tossing off old bacon" so I clicked before reading the rest.

I am dissapoint.
 
2012-06-05 02:15:48 PM  

Airportmatt: I'm unclear as to why they had to continue to search for it once the registered owner told them what had happened. You know there's no emergency, so just let the batteries run down.

Any experts in rescue beacon law or etiquette who can explain this?


Well, if it's like the beacons on small aircraft, they broadcast over the emergency frequency, so until the batteries crapped out, if someone else had an emergency, their beacon wouldn't be heard, or might be written off because the emergency responders have been told that there's a false alarm on the frequency. I see why you need to turn it off.
 
2012-06-05 02:23:43 PM  
I'm confused as to why the police were searching for it. You notify the owner, tell him to shut it off, and fine him repeatedly until he does. No reason to waste public money on a private mistake.
 
2012-06-05 03:10:24 PM  

Cheviot: I'm confused as to why the police were searching for it. You notify the owner, tell him to shut it off, and fine him repeatedly until he does. No reason to waste public money on a private mistake.


It was buried in a landfill. Without their locator equipment it would have been very hard to find.
 
2012-06-05 03:38:34 PM  
I hope I am not the only one who read that as emergency bacon.
 
2012-06-05 06:23:56 PM  

krampus503: If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was in Corvallis, Oregon. I don't see the articles that ran in either the local or college papers, but here's a NYT article on it: http://www.nytimes.com/learning


That could be it. Reading the article, it happens more often than I thought.
 
2012-06-05 06:38:05 PM  
"If you ever drop your emergency beacon in the trash, let it go, because man, it's gone."
 
2012-06-05 08:48:37 PM  

LeroyBourne: The obvious solution would be to incinerate the entire dump.


No, the obvious solution would be to have the owner recover and switch off the beacon, while the emergency personnel watched.
 
2012-06-05 10:23:08 PM  

Airportmatt: I'm unclear as to why they had to continue to search for it once the registered owner told them what had happened. You know there's no emergency, so just let the batteries run down.

Any experts in rescue beacon law or etiquette who can explain this?


You always locate an active beacon so it does not keep transmitting, which uses up limited resources on the satellites.
 
2012-06-05 10:26:21 PM  

bottsicus: I take it this was not a marine emergency beacon (EPIRB)? You'd think that once they discovered it was in the landfill, they could have just ignored it. Perhaps there is a reason to not have errant signals floating around though...


They'll locate it. I personally know a deckhand who got fined an insane amount of money because an old one he had in his garage somewhere in Montana that got activated. The USCG came to his house and were not amused.
 
2012-06-06 06:46:43 AM  
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