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(The Sun)   Dog mauls young boy. With picture of the savage, snarling beast. Wait-- that's really the dog's owner?   (thesun.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-06-05 10:01:33 AM  
6 votes:
The dog was on his own property. A two year old wandered in unsupervised. Not exactly the owners fault, no matter what he looks like.
2012-06-05 10:05:20 AM  
4 votes:
I'll probably get eviscerated for this, buuut...

The boy wandered onto the dog owner's property where the attack happened. I'm guessing it isn't the safest neighborhood, in which case having a guard dog is, I believe, to be a legitimate form of protecting your property.

I can't imagine the trauma on the child and the family, but why the hell weren't the guardians keeping a better eye on the boy in a neighborhood of such questionable integrity?
2012-06-05 10:03:03 AM  
4 votes:
FTFA:

"If you're a parent, you have to look after your children 24 hours a day. If it wasn't a dog, it could have been a paedophile."

And then....

Police said it was unlikely Mr King will be charged because Keiron was attacked on his property.

So......basically, yeah. Don't let your kids wander into people's yards. Seriously.
2012-06-05 10:01:21 AM  
4 votes:
And that's what happens when you let your crotchfruit wander around.

I feel bad for the parents, but it's not like the owner sicced the dogs on the kid.
2012-06-05 10:47:12 AM  
3 votes:

KiplingKat872: I love dogs. I love Pitties


KimNorth: A pit-bull bites in goes all the way thru the skin breaking the bone.


The dog was not a pit bull, it was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier according to the article. The police had visited the property the previous year (according to the BBC) and decided that the dogs were not pit bulls. Pit bulls are illegal in the UK and are confiscated and killed under the Dangerous Dogs Act.
2012-06-05 10:43:13 AM  
3 votes:
2 year old's don't scale fences - so it appears that there was nothing keeping the dog in or the kid out. If you have a dangerous dog ( or an attractive nuisance like a pool or trampoline) you need to put a fence around it.
2012-06-05 09:58:15 AM  
3 votes:

Ross E. Krushan: Kieron? Why are boys' names getting so ghey?


OOooo we gots a TOUGH GUY!!! :-D

There's a few Irish Football players I'd like you to meet..... I'm quite sure they'll show you exactly how 'ghey' they are.
2012-06-05 11:44:35 AM  
2 votes:

KimNorth: A poodle and taco bell dog is ten times more likely to bite you, one bite then they run most times it does not even break the skin.


You mean a miniature or toy poodle, not a regular poodle. And no, they are not likely to run away after the first bite. They are more vicious and sustain attacks. But in the In the US, Dachsunds are the most likely dog to bite. (I know this article was from the UK, but I don't have their statistics handy). They have determined in studies that small breeds are much more genetically pre-disposed to biting than large breeds.

A pit-bull bites in goes all the way thru the skin breaking the bone.

A small dog bite is more likely to break skin. Their teeth are smaller and sharper. Large dogs have blunter canines are more likely to crush bones and cause internal tissue damage. Dogs with extended muzzles (think German Shepherd, Collie, Husky) will do more ripping damage to the flesh than puncture damage because they tend to attack with their back teeth (which "scissor". Their front teeth are more reserved for play and herd nipping.

A small dog gets in a pack with other small dogs and they will bite and as you kick them across the yard they will come back and bit you again it will take two days for them to kill you.

This is true of ALL dogs. They are pack animals. It is not a small/large dog trait. When there are more of them, they will become more brazen. I had 4 pits attack my 125 pound German Shepherd. Even as my shepherd out ran them around the park, eventually tossing them aside (without ever biting or growling), the last pit left still tried. My GSD eventually got him by the neck, flipped him down and laid on him. The 4 owners that thought it was hilarious that their pits were ganging up on dogs started yelling at me for my "Shepherd turning their dogs into pussies".

A pit bull has it breed into them from over 70 years of breeding for fighting and bear killing to go for the kill no mater what it can not be trained out of them. It takes tops 2 minutes if you are an adult for them to kill you.

This is categorically wrong and plain stupid. If you look into the history of Pitties, they were bred and culled specifically for the ones that would NOT attack humans. They were often called Nanny Dogs because they were so gentle around children. It has only been in the last few decades that low-lifes have taken advantage of that fact and used them as the dog of choice for dog-fights. This coupled with their perceived "thug status" (see my comment above about the ones that attacked my Shepherd) that have lead to them getting a bad name.

It is the difference between have a domestic kitty cat and a well trained bob cat. Sure they are both just smallish cats but on can kill you as easily as swatting a fly and should not be kept as a pet without being secured away from the public.

No, the difference between a domestic cat and a bobcat is the difference between Canis lupus familiaris (a dog) and Canis Lupus (a gray wolf). One is a sub-species that has specifically been bred for generations upon generations to interact with humans in their society, the other is a wild animal that has no genetic predisposition to suppress it' instincts.

I am no fan of bad dog owners. As I said before, I have GSDs. I rescue at risk GSDs. My elder statesman (~6yrs old) was left to die in the woods as a victim of a divorced family. When he was rescued, he bit everything that moved. He didn't trust anyone. I have a 3 inch scar on my left wrist from the day I met him. Now, he tours elementary schools, goes to baseball games, football games, free hiking on trails, and to festivals with me. It took about a month of training to stop the biting, and another year to calm him down and train him how to act in social situations.

EVERY dog (barring medical issues) can be rehabilitated. NO dog (or breed) is inherently vicious. It takes a special kind of neglect and abuse for most dogs to turn violent. Most of the times, it is neglect with poor owners not realizing how much time and effort it takes to have a "good dog" (hint, tying it up outside and feeding it twice a day isn't cutting it). Most dogs need a MINIMUM of 3 hours of interaction with its family/pack a day. Most need more than that.
2012-06-05 10:53:58 AM  
2 votes:
I was attacked by a dog (Collie) when I was 3, and I still bear the facial scars at 38. I don't blame the dog, I blame the owners. I was not the first kid it bit, and they still let it outside. Sure this guy's dogs were in their own yard, but the dog had bitten before. The dog should have been put down then as it had all ready had shown it would attack humans when it bit the policeman the year before.
2012-06-05 10:25:04 AM  
2 votes:
My son and I were attacked and torn up by 3 pit bulls at the beach even the owner could not make them stop. 5 days in the hospital.

A poodle and taco bell dog is ten times more likely to bite you, one bite then they run most times it does not even break the skin.

A pit-bull bites in goes all the way thru the skin breaking the bone.

A small dog gets in a pack with other small dogs and they will bite and as you kick them across the yard they will come back and bit you again it will take two days for them to kill you.

A pit bull has it breed into them from over 70 years of breeding for fighting and bear killing to go for the kill no mater what it can not be trained out of them. It takes tops 2 minutes if you are an adult for them to kill you.

It is the difference between have a domestic kitty cat and a well trained bob cat. Sure they are both just smallish cats but on can kill you as easily as swatting a fly and should not be kept as a pet without being secured away from the public.
2012-06-05 10:06:11 AM  
2 votes:
I love dogs. I love Pitties, I have worked with them a lot and have a Pit mix myself. But I firmly believe that once an untrained dog (ie. not a police or war dog) crosses that line, they can never be trusted around people again. It's damned shame because the irresponsible owner is the farkwad that made them that way, but the dog needs to be put down.
2012-06-05 06:52:12 PM  
1 vote:
FTA: Police said it was unlikely Mr King will be charged because Keiron was attacked on his property.

And we're done. I'm not a fan of vicious dogs on public property - but if you're wandering around on private property and you get attacked by the dog that lives there, it is, indeed, your own damned fault. The owner did nothing wrong, and handed the dog over to police to be destroyed as a result of the attack. The owner also expressed shock and remorse as a result of the attack, but that gets glossed over in the middle of the article, long after the sensationalist pictures and disingenuous headline involving the "callous" owner are absorbed.

But, we know the real reason this is being featured - smiling, cherubic white toddler, juxtaposed against the stern, scary-looking black man.
2012-06-05 03:55:56 PM  
1 vote:
Can't believe I'm the first to mention this, but the dogs in the photo do not look like pits or staffies. There's a tendency to scream "pit bull" whenever a medium to large dog bites, but that doesn't make it correct.
2012-06-05 02:01:08 PM  
1 vote:

Pert: KiplingKat872: I love dogs. I love Pitties

KimNorth: A pit-bull bites in goes all the way thru the skin breaking the bone.

The dog was not a pit bull, it was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier according to the article. The police had visited the property the previous year (according to the BBC) and decided that the dogs were not pit bulls. Pit bulls are illegal in the UK and are confiscated and killed under the Dangerous Dogs Act.


Well, It sounds like all of their dog bite related problems are solved.
2012-06-05 11:06:27 AM  
1 vote:

Pert: KiplingKat872: I love dogs. I love Pitties

KimNorth: A pit-bull bites in goes all the way thru the skin breaking the bone.

The dog was not a pit bull, it was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier according to the article. The police had visited the property the previous year (according to the BBC) and decided that the dogs were not pit bulls. Pit bulls are illegal in the UK and are confiscated and killed under the Dangerous Dogs Act.


That someone is breeding them and bring them in is sad though, as they know it is just a mater of time before they will be found and killed.
2012-06-05 11:00:57 AM  
1 vote:

ArgusRun: The dog was on his own property. A two year old wandered in unsupervised. Not exactly the owners fault, no matter what he looks like.


Think of a swimming pool. I don't know what UK laws are, but in most places in the US, private pools must be fenced. If you have an unsecured pool and the neighbor kid falls in and drowns, you bet your ass you are getting sued. At minimum.

Blame here should be shared between the parents, for not supervising the boy, and the owner, for keeping a dog known to be a biter, and not keeping him behind a fence.
2012-06-05 10:44:06 AM  
1 vote:
i117.photobucket.com
/oblig

/roomate had a pit. Sweetest dog I ever met. Just wanted to be loved. Constantly. Farking whip-like tail though. Holy farking ouch.
2012-06-05 10:38:16 AM  
1 vote:

uttertosh: Vespizzari: uttertosh: While I deplore the use of gay (or ghey) to mean effeminate, I don't think an appeal to Irish Soccer players is exactly the best direction to take the defense. Fewer sports enjoy a less masculine image among anything but the devoted...

ummm.... you may want to watch a match some time. The same with Hurling. They make NFL games look like a hippy love-in with free condoms. (liberal application of protective equipment)

here's a video combining the two.


You call that pansy shiat hitting? You might want to watch an NFL or NHL game or two to see real hitting.
2012-06-05 10:22:55 AM  
1 vote:
Garfield King's Staffordshire bull terrier inflicted horrific injuries after Keiron Guess wandered into his garden.

That guy has a point. They try to make him sound like a completely awful person, but there are questions about a number of things:
1) Was the dog chained/fenced in?
2) How did the kid get in there?
3) Why was he able to?
4) What were the parents doing while their 2 year old wandered into someone else's yard? (it is not like they are fast)
5) Was it really necessary for the Sun to use an ill-timed, grainy cell phone pic of the guy instead of a better taken one with a decent camera (like the pic of the dogs)?

/it took 2 assholes to write this article?
2012-06-05 10:13:44 AM  
1 vote:

ArgusRun: The dog was on his own property. A two year old wandered in unsupervised. Not exactly the owners fault, no matter what he looks like.


That's my thoughts exactly and this time I'll side with the dog owner (and I'm not a big fan of dags)
2012-06-05 10:10:47 AM  
1 vote:

Carn: Porous Horace: Why do people own dogs like that?
It seems that the lower one goes on the scale of life, the closer they gravitate towards vicious dogs. Is it in order to match up with their tough persona? Compensation?

Dogs don't start off vicious. People make them so.


But dogs do start off territorial, and the toddler walked into his territory

/not a dog owner
//not blaming the kid either - terrible outcome either way you look at it.
2012-06-05 10:04:14 AM  
1 vote:
I can't stand the number of people who are going to blame the toddler in this thread. Toddlers aren't born inherently vicious. They are made that way by aggressive, violence-loving, and irresponsible parents. I've know 35 pound toddlers who were gentle as cotton balls. I've also known 10 pound infants that would rip your face off. The parents make them that way by beating them with two-by-fours, shocking them with Tazers, and even forcing them to eat pureed peas. They treat them like animals, so they act like animals.

The best thing we can do at this point is lock the parents up and put the toddlers down. If they've tasted blood, then they are far beyond the point of rehabilitation. I know if might sound cruel, but there are humane ways to dispatch of them. They deserve peace.
2012-06-05 10:04:03 AM  
1 vote:

NickBush24: And that's what happens when you let your crotchfruit wander around.

I feel bad for the parents, but it's not like the owner sicced the dogs on the kid.


My thoughts too. Still a farking shame this kid will be scarred for life though.
2012-06-05 10:03:24 AM  
1 vote:
sgnilward

Two bullets, one for the dog, one for the owner.

I farking hate vicious dogs and their slime ball owners.

Are you hoping there's enough over penetration to take out the ass-hat parents that refused to supervise their g.d. crotch fruit?

No difference in these tools and people that don't put their kids in car-seats or let them drown in home pools.
2012-06-05 10:02:48 AM  
1 vote:

Porous Horace: Why do people own dogs like that?
It seems that the lower one goes on the scale of life, the closer they gravitate towards vicious dogs. Is it in order to match up with their tough persona? Compensation?


Dogs don't start off vicious. People make them so.
2012-06-05 10:02:00 AM  
1 vote:
uttertosh: While I deplore the use of gay (or ghey) to mean effeminate, I don't think an appeal to Irish Soccer players is exactly the best direction to take the defense. Fewer sports enjoy a less masculine image among anything but the devoted...
2012-06-05 09:56:56 AM  
1 vote:

Ross E. Krushan: Kieron? Why are boys' names getting so ghey?


It's a variant of Kieran, which means "black" in Gaelic. It's been a name for centuries, though we in the U.S. are more used to seeing it as a surname in its other variants, like Kiernan and Kern.
2012-06-05 09:55:00 AM  
1 vote:
Lootie?
 
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