Weaver95: I'll bet those numbers change once the boomers start dying off in larger numbers.

Be patient. It's why we're seeing so much hardcore Christian political action - they're struggling against the inevitable.

Little over half of Americans don't want to live on this planet anymore.

So half of America are idiots? We didn't need a formal survey to prove this.

Summon you-know-who. It's THIS thread again.

*yawn*

Pants full of macaroni!!: Summon you-know-who. It's THIS thread again.

*yawn*

I want to see He who shall not be named top his whopper from last night's thread which said that the Christian faith has never undertaken any genocidal escapades.

Woo creationism thread! And I got 2 hours left at work to watch the fun!

Maybe there is a Fark God who watches over us late shift minions and bestows entertainment of this sort.

Yet all of them will gladly take advantage of the fruits of scientific progress while decrying the very methods that brought them about insofar as they contradict a very old and absurdly incorrect belief system.

Damn, someone needs to update the pie chart.

As someone who has lived in North Carolina, Mississippi, Tennessee, and now Texas, I can count on one hand the people I've known who don't believe in evolution. Maybe I've just been lucky, but even some of my staunchest republican religious friends don't actually believe that God made Eve from a rib.

Or that the whole world was flooded. Because who saved the kangaroos? Huh? WHO? They couldn't make it to the ark.

Nadie_AZ: Are Americans that gullible? I have a hard time believing this.

51% of Americans are that gullible, and that's enough.

CruJones: As someone who has lived in North Carolina, Mississippi, Tennessee, and now Texas, I can count on one hand the people I've known who don't believe in evolution. Maybe I've just been lucky, but even some of my staunchest republican religious friends don't actually believe that God made Eve from a rib.

Or that the whole world was flooded. Because who saved the kangaroos? Huh? WHO? They couldn't make it to the ark.

As a native Tennesseeian, I can sadly say that I know quite a few people in my bible-thumping hometown in Middle Tennessee who believe Evolution is a liberal, satanic lie. In High school, our biology teacher taught it and one kid stood up and told her she was going to hell for blasphemy (no. freakin'. joke.)

It's down to less than "half"?? Yay!

We're slowly, slowly crawling out of the Dark Ages...

Mugato: I can understand people believing in a creator. We don't really have a concrete explanation otherwise.

Um..yeah. We kind of do.
And since when are Bronze-Age gods a concrete explanation?

I agree that evolution of some sort or another is the driving force in life on earth. I defer to scientists on the when, how, etc.

I believe in God.

Science=Fact
God=Faith

I go to lawyers when I have a legal problem.
I go to doctors when I have a medical problem.
Leave science to scientists.

Kome: Yet all of them will gladly take advantage of the fruits of scientific progress while decrying the very methods that brought them about insofar as they contradict a very old and absurdly incorrect belief system.

Most of them also hate teh gheys, but they don't mind using computers, and they've never even heard of Alan Turing.

Weaver95: I'll bet those numbers change once the boomers start dying off in larger numbers.

Not fast enuf for ya?


Get off my lawn, whippersnapper.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"

BronyMedic: Pants full of macaroni!!: Summon you-know-who. It's THIS thread again.

*yawn*

I want to see He who shall not be named top his whopper from last night's thread which said that the Christian faith has never undertaken any genocidal escapades.

Seconded. That has to be #1 on you-know-who's greatest hits.

/Christians are no better or worse than any other large group of humans throughout history.

CruJones: Or that the whole world was flooded. Because who saved the kangaroos? Huh? WHO? They couldn't make it to the ark.

They obviously had the foresight to fill their pouches with ping pong balls. That is why animals down there have them.

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: Are Americans that gullible? I have a hard time believing this.

well...I don't think people give the matter much thought. seriously - think about it. how often does the various theories of evolution really affect your daily life? most of us, not very much at all. so when someone shows up and asks you about it, they answer what they were taught to answer back when they were kids. Do they actually believe in what they said? most likely not. they just answer the question and move on with more important things in life.

Yes, it's important to understand this. When most of us versed in the subject think "creationist", we think of loony types like you-know-who (rhymes with Kevets). But for most average church-going people, they have no problem accepting both that the earth and all its creatures were created by God, and that dinosaurs roamed the planet hundreds of millions of years ago. They're not really thinking about the details behind those two statements, they're just kind of accepted and taken for granted, and conscious thought about the incongruity between the two statements is simply ignored. When pressed, those people would mostly fall on the side of science.

I suspect those types of people make up a very large percentage of the 46% mentioned in the article. I don't really have a problem with those people - they probably haven't given the issue 10 minutes of dedicated thought. If discussed with rational people, they could be convinced pretty easily. The ones to beware of are the ones who can't be convinced no matter what.

Weaver95: I'll bet those numbers change once the boomers start dying off in larger numbers.

Was this poll conducted via cellphones?

BronyMedic: Pants full of macaroni!!: Summon you-know-who. It's THIS thread again.

*yawn*

I want to see He who shall not be named top his whopper from last night's thread which said that the Christian faith has never undertaken any genocidal escapades.

I miss his funny pics.

DrZiffle: I agree that evolution of some sort or another is the driving force in life on earth. I defer to scientists on the when, how, etc.

I believe in God.

Science=Fact
God=Faith

I go to lawyers when I have a legal problem.
I go to doctors when I have a medical problem.
Leave science to scientists.

I think that's all really anyone can ask. I really don't care what people believe as long as it doesn't hinder the progress of humanity and popsicles.

Nadie_AZ: Are Americans that gullible? I have a hard time believing this.

We have a bunch of fundies who think their beliefs are some kind of Jenga tower which will collapse if any doubt floats past it.

Some of them are very nice people. Up to a point.

Weaver95: Or they could simply say "I don't know".

most people don't like to say they don't know the answer to a question. In our society, admiting that you don't know something is seen as a weakness. it's also possible that people would rather NOT be seen as non-christian or as a non-believer, so they answer 'yes, god exists and He created it all'. again - they might not actuallly believe it themselves, but it beats admitting that they don't know the answers.

Then again, our culture despises intellectual pursuits of most sorts. unless something is used to make you oodles of cash or blow the crap outta someone, we don't like to think things through. so when we were all taught 'god created the heavens and the earth' then that was it - most people didn't think much of anything beyond that.

I once dated a girl who told me one of the reasons she liked me was that I didn't have "Male Answer Syndrome." If I didn't know something I would just say "Huh, I don't know" and then I'd go look it up. All the other men in her life would just pull out a string of bullshiat because they just couldn't admit they didn't know something. That might be a symptom of youth but I've noticed it in older guys too. Women don't seem to have it as bad. There's no crime in not knowing something. The crime is not caring what the actual facts are.

/MAS

I cannot understand how someone in the year 2012 can look at at evolution and go, "Eh, I don't know. This here story about a magic light switch sounds better." It just.....how do these people wipe their asses without poking out an eye? It's the 21st century, for the love of fark. Shouldn't this just be accepted knowledge, like water being wet, the sky being blue, and bears shiatting in the woods?

Weaver95: I'll bet those numbers change once the boomers start dying off in larger numbers.

Hopefully, but I doubt it.

I remember the first time I heard someone admit to being a creationist. I was 16 and having gone through 9 years of Catholic school where they didn't even teach it as fact, I just assumed that nobody actually believed it. (At the time I figured almost everyone was an atheist, but went along with church for the sake of others. Now I think that's only true subconsciously for a majority.) By the time you get o high school, you figure it's unlikely that you'll meet someone older than you that believes in the Easter Bunny, but there it was. It seemed crazy.

Then years later I realized that MOST OF THE COUNTRY is like that. Even my mom. It's very disturbing and sad. (She still thinks I'm Catholic of course, a testament to the power of willful ignorance.)

Molavian: Next you'll be telling me that half of Americans have below-average IQs.

Nope, I said that 50% of American have an IQ over 100.

Weaver95: I'll bet those numbers change once the boomers start dying off in larger numbers.

Well, at least they're going to Heaven.

0Icky0: Mugato: I can understand people believing in a creator. We don't really have a concrete explanation otherwise.

Um..yeah. We kind of do.
And since when are Bronze-Age gods a concrete explanation?

We have the Big Bang, but what caused it? A question mark may be honest, but it isn't a concrete explanation. Uncertainty is not something the human mind is built to accept. And so we make up bullshiat stories and kill each other over whose bullshiat story is the bullshiatiest.

I wouldn't be surprise. If you go to Europe though, the numbers might be a different story over there. But what does "sex in the Champagne room" have to do with the article? It just shows that it is summer, and summer time means more sex.

Coco LaFemme: I cannot understand how someone in the year 2012 can look at at evolution and go, "Eh, I don't know. This here story about a magic light switch sounds better." It just.....how do these people wipe their asses without poking out an eye? It's the 21st century, for the love of fark. Shouldn't this just be accepted knowledge, like water being wet, the sky being blue, and bears shiatting in the woods?

Popes shiat in the woods. Bears are Catholic

Mugato: Did I say anything about any specific gods?

You know very well that those Americans in the survey are mostly thinking about a specific Bronze-Age god.

is it so hard to believe that people would rather believe in a higher power than evolving from nasty feces throwing apes?

BronyMedic: So half of America are idiots? We didn't need a formal survey to prove this.

Probably a lot less then 50 percent. How many people actually stayed on the line after getting a phone call from an unknown caller on their caller ID, then stayed on the line after saying hello and no one immediately answered back, clearly indicating you've been auto dialed? Then asking you if you would participate in a survey for free? I maybe have once in my 39 years on this planet while drinking to amuse myself. I bet fundies just love the attention and to think someone cares about their opinion.