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(LA Times)   Dresden Dolls frontwoman and submitter's future wife Amanda Effing Palmer raises over $1M in Kickstarter campaign   (latimesblogs.latimes.com) divider line 108
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2012-06-04 06:03:03 PM  
Well if that isn't a huge middle finger to the RIAA, I don't know what is.

I hope this becomes standard. People supporting the artists directly and the artists are able to perform with it and subsequently make even more money, without having a shiatty middle man siphon off a majority of the earnings.
 
2012-06-04 06:08:58 PM  
Subby does know she married Neil Gaiman, yes?

Also, this was a damn cool thing. I participated and love the idea that the labels get NOTHING.
 
2012-06-04 06:29:35 PM  
That moon face is somewhat attractive. She might hurt me reaaaaal good.
 
2012-06-04 06:54:33 PM  
Cool chick, but I just can't get past the eyebrows...

/her knees are probably sharp, too
 
2012-06-04 07:18:35 PM  
Yay AFP!
 
2012-06-04 07:38:04 PM  
I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.
 
2012-06-04 07:43:01 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.


Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.
 
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2012-06-04 07:51:02 PM  
serial_crusher

She's not obscure enough to win obscure cred points.

I remember her as that crazy woman in a wedding dress in Harvard Square c. 2000 (as mentioned in "Perfect Fit"). A friend's ex-girlfriend is totally obsessed with her.
 
2012-06-04 08:48:31 PM  
she's a somewhat interesting follow on twitter.

I say "somewhat interesting" in that she occasionally posts topless pictures of herself.
And they're nice.
 
2012-06-04 08:59:26 PM  
I remember seeing her on Craig Ferguson's show.. singing a song from Rocky Horror with Moby, Steven Merritt, and her hubby playing the occasional note on a keyboard in the back.. was odd and awesome.. and then she lifted her arms up.. : /
 
2012-06-04 08:59:31 PM  
Who else here listened to 8in8, her work with Gaiman, Ben Folds, and the drummer from OK Go? They recorded eight songs in eight hours and released six. It was pretty good, with a couple of standouts (Because the Origami, The Problem with Saints)
 
2012-06-04 09:04:07 PM  
No idea who this is, but dammit more bands need to do this shiat. I'm not a fan of Facebook or twitter, or social media in general, but if it allows artists to get away from the RIAA I'm all for it. I may even give them a listen too.

/my brother follows a local band or did when he lived in Hamilton, I think it was there, and was able to score backstage passes and what not because of twitter, so there is that

SilentStrider: she's a somewhat interesting follow on twitter.

I say "somewhat interesting" in that she occasionally posts topless pictures of herself.
And they're nice.


Of course, if more women are doing this via twitter, I may become a fan
 
2012-06-04 09:07:26 PM  

timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.


No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.
 
2012-06-04 09:08:38 PM  

Nogrhi: Subby does know she married Neil Gaiman, yes?

Also, this was a damn cool thing. I participated and love the idea that the labels get NOTHING.


In that case, can we get some nude pics of subby's wife???
 
2012-06-04 09:08:58 PM  

SilentStrider: she's a somewhat interesting follow on twitter.

I say "somewhat interesting" in that she occasionally posts topless pictures of herself.
And they're nice.


Damn

you for making me reconsider my Twitter aversion! :)
 
2012-06-04 09:14:24 PM  
she married neil gaiman, and while vaguely attractive, is still on the meh scale, if she can do something with her partial talent as a proto hipster and return on the investment, then more power to her. but i doubt it will happen.
 
2012-06-04 09:14:38 PM  
I (pre)bought the new Luscious }ackson cd on kickstart. It's way cool - I not only bought the CD (autographed!) But also an extra disc, and they also had a bunch of stuff like original art, or phone calls, a tour of NY, or even, if you're in New York, they're play your house party. Very cool thing, this Kickstart.
 
2012-06-04 09:19:04 PM  
My wife went to high school with AP, yet I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-06-04 09:23:12 PM  

Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.


...

I do hope you're not serious. She spends the first 30 seconds of the video on Kickstarter saying she's excited because she just finished recording a new album and needs money for everything that comes after: mixing, promoting, packaging, distributing and touring.
 
2012-06-04 09:25:25 PM  

Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.


Recording an album is actually very cheap. Printing, pressing, and distributing is the expensive part.

I understand that it's cool and hip to frown on everything and be totally cynical, but you misunderstood the situation here, and are criticizing the wrong thing.
 
2012-06-04 09:27:04 PM  

timujin: Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.

...

I do hope you're not serious. She spends the first 30 seconds of the video on Kickstarter saying she's excited because she just finished recording a new album and needs money for everything that comes after: mixing, promoting, packaging, distributing and touring.


This!

AFP is amazing in so many ways, she doesn't give a fark what people think of her, and she gets naked. She has done some amazing music on top of that. Plus she got to marry one of the greatest living writers of our time, Neil Gaiman, and she isn't mooching off him for this record.
 
2012-06-04 09:29:01 PM  

KellyX: Nogrhi: Subby does know she married Neil Gaiman, yes?

Also, this was a damn cool thing. I participated and love the idea that the labels get NOTHING.

In that case, can we get some nude pics of subby's wife???


Here's one:
healthyliving.ocregister.com

/Not subby.
 
2012-06-04 09:31:21 PM  

timujin: Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.

...

I do hope you're not serious. She spends the first 30 seconds of the video on Kickstarter saying she's excited because she just finished recording a new album and needs money for everything that comes after: mixing, promoting, packaging, distributing and touring.


Yeah, she has the money to do those things. All her endeavor is, as it was for my local musician friends when I refused to give them cash, is a way to get paid by her fans without having to deliver a proven, good, product. Its a dodge for musicians and bands that didn't used to exist, because the hipster fanbases weren't as rabid or loyal. People now are willing to pay her without a proven product, which is, to me, a stupid thing to do for musicians. I may be more picky or less loyal than other fans, but I still don't see the logic on paying for the risk of her business.
 
2012-06-04 09:31:43 PM  
No Evelyn Evelyn love?

Also, this wasn't a money grab. I got more than I would have otherwise by supporting this kickstarter. I considered it pa pre order where more of my money went to the person I wanted it to.
 
2012-06-04 09:36:08 PM  
TTIUWOP
 
2012-06-04 09:36:18 PM  
I used to date a girl who loved the Dresden Dolls and dragged me to one of their shows. Not my type of thing but they put on a good show. I particularly enjoyed their cover of War Pigs.
 
2012-06-04 09:36:57 PM  
Kickstarter is now for established entities looking to get a boost.

It was more interesting when it was unestablished people with an idea and no money.
 
2012-06-04 09:45:51 PM  

Nrokreffefp: timujin: Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.

...

I do hope you're not serious. She spends the first 30 seconds of the video on Kickstarter saying she's excited because she just finished recording a new album and needs money for everything that comes after: mixing, promoting, packaging, distributing and touring.

Yeah, she has the money to do those things.


You're her accountant? She's an indie musician with a marginal fan base.

All her endeavor is, as it was for my local musician friends when I refused to give them cash, is a way to get paid by her fans without having to deliver a proven, good, product.

ah, the old "this guy I once knew was like this, so everyone else is" argument... also "I refused to give them cash" demonstrates a predisposition on your part against musicians in general.

Its a dodge for musicians and bands that didn't used to exist, because the hipster fanbases weren't as rabid or loyal.


"Dodge"? Modern technology has simply allowed for people of all types, whether musicians, artists, writers or even politicians to have a more direct connection with their audience.

People now are willing to pay her without a proven product, which is, to me, a stupid thing to do for musicians. I may be more picky or less loyal than other fans, but I still don't see the logic on paying for the risk of her business.


That might be a good reason for you to not fund her then. The people that did likely enjoyed her earlier work and decided to take a chance that they would like this one.

/again, I don't like her music and don't care about her personally one way or the other, but I think you're way off base in your assessment of the situation.
 
2012-06-04 09:49:50 PM  
I don't get the love for her. Well, the carnal love I understand, but she's a terrible singer. I tried listening to one of their albums on Spotify and turned it off after the third song because her voice was so grating and terrible.

Did I miss something?
 
2012-06-04 10:07:50 PM  

CZMisfitsFan: I don't get the love for her. Well, the carnal love I understand, but she's a terrible singer. I tried listening to one of their albums on Spotify and turned it off after the third song because her voice was so grating and terrible.

Did I miss something?


De gustibus non disputandum est. You probably enjoy things that others don't.
 
2012-06-04 10:10:59 PM  

FloydA: CZMisfitsFan: I don't get the love for her. Well, the carnal love I understand, but she's a terrible singer. I tried listening to one of their albums on Spotify and turned it off after the third song because her voice was so grating and terrible.

Did I miss something?

De gustibus non disputandum est. You probably enjoy things that others don't.


True. I was just wondering if someone could point out what they liked about the band and if I missed something. I'm always willing to give things another try, if given some encouragement and perspective.
 
2012-06-04 10:14:29 PM  

CZMisfitsFan: I don't get the love for her. Well, the carnal love I understand, but she's a terrible singer. I tried listening to one of their albums on Spotify and turned it off after the third song because her voice was so grating and terrible.


I'm with you, but this is "their" thread, so I figure let them gush about their lack of music taste.
 
2012-06-04 10:14:50 PM  
I'd never even heard of her before a couple days ago when a friend sent me a link of her doing a cover of a Cure song on a ukulele.


CZMisfitsFan: True. I was just wondering if someone could point out what they liked about the band and if I missed something.


Same here. I don't get it, either.
 
2012-06-04 10:17:22 PM  

CZMisfitsFan: I don't get the love for her. Well, the carnal love I understand, but she's a terrible singer. I tried listening to one of their albums on Spotify and turned it off after the third song because her voice was so grating and terrible.

Did I miss something?


Personally? I think her less than perfect voice adds something to these particular songs that a perfect voice would not. Kind of like the Roger Waters era Pink Floyd. His voice is TERRIBLE, but anyone else singing those songs would not be half as good.
 
2012-06-04 10:25:56 PM  

fusillade762: I'd never even heard of her before a couple days ago when a friend sent me a link of her doing a cover of a Cure song on a ukulele.


CZMisfitsFan: True. I was just wondering if someone could point out what they liked about the band and if I missed something.

Same here. I don't get it, either.


I don't really dig any of the covers that Amanda Palmer does too much. It doesn't make a lot of sense, because her style kind of uniquely fits her own music.

What do I like about it? It's different and dark without being goth or emo, and in any incarnation she isn't afraid to experiment and do something different. I like the dynamics in the music and that the piano is sometimes light and beautiful and then becomes a percussion instrument the next second. I like that truly dark and sad subject matter can sometimes be presented in really light and bubbly manner. I like that while alot of the music is on the moody end, plenty of it is just loud and fun. I like that she doesn't pigeon hole herself and pretty much just does whatever she feels like at the moment.

It just clicks with me, but there's no reason it has to with you or anyone else. Music taste is completely subjective and there is no right or wrong answer as to what is good and what is bad.

Exceptions--Nickelback, Linkin Park, and Puddle of Mudd have scientifically been proven to be awful.
 
2012-06-04 10:32:33 PM  

PsychoLaurie: TTIUWOP TTIJFWOP

 
2012-06-04 10:51:06 PM  

Nrokreffefp: timujin: Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.

...

I do hope you're not serious. She spends the first 30 seconds of the video on Kickstarter saying she's excited because she just finished recording a new album and needs money for everything that comes after: mixing, promoting, packaging, distributing and touring.

Yeah, she has the money to do those things. All her endeavor is, as it was for my local musician friends when I refused to give them cash, is a way to get paid by her fans without having to deliver a proven, good, product. Its a dodge for musicians and bands that didn't used to exist, because the hipster fanbases weren't as rabid or loyal. People now are willing to pay her without a proven product, which is, to me, a stupid thing to do for musicians. I may be more picky or less loyal than other fans, but I still don't see the logic on paying for the risk of her business.


You are so right. Why in the world would people give money to someone whose previous products they have enjoyed? The fact that they enjoyed the earlier stuff is in no way a guarantee that they'll enjoy the new stuff. People should never take chances like this.

I bet you're a blast at parties.
 
2012-06-04 11:04:30 PM  

FloydA:
Recording an album is actually very cheap. Printing, pressing, and distributing is the expensive part.


Agreed, but why bother with physical distribution? These days, it's easy for an artist to deliver their music in a variety of formats (mp3, flac, 96k or whatever) over the net. Just make enough physical product to sell at shows and use the rest of the dough to support a tour.
 
2012-06-04 11:13:08 PM  

Apos: Damn you for making me reconsider my Twitter aversion! :)


I'm not going to say it makes twitter worthwhile on its own... but it doesn't hurt.
 
2012-06-04 11:22:31 PM  

SilentStrider: Apos: Damn you for making me reconsider my Twitter aversion! :)

I'm not going to say it makes twitter worthwhile on its own... but it doesn't hurt.


Duly noted.
 
2012-06-04 11:24:20 PM  
Pledgemusic does much the same as Kickstarter, but focuses on music exclusively. One of my favorite artists, Rhett Miller of the Old 97's, just put out an album he funded with the site.

/Just got my download link today
//Really good stuff
 
2012-06-04 11:28:30 PM  

timujin: Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.


That's why I threw a few bucks her way. I've never really listened to her music. I'm supporting the concept.
 
2012-06-04 11:35:12 PM  
There's so much this in this thread that I can't pick a single post. Love Amanda Palmer's music, especially with the loose attachment to good taste. Love Neil Gaiman's work. Love that she gave the labels the finger (again).

/No neckbeard.
 
2012-06-04 11:35:46 PM  

FloydA: Yay AFP!


Am I the only one who misread that?
 
2012-06-04 11:37:01 PM  
This article makes me very happy. I've had the honor or designing for her (makeup line) and she is a very sweet woman who has worked damn hard to get this far.
 
2012-06-04 11:37:41 PM  

Lachwen: Nrokreffefp: timujin: Nrokreffefp: timujin: serial_crusher: I don't know what a Dresden Doll is, but that's probably why hipstermitter is so excited about it.

Please save the ignorant derp for the politics tab. Whether you like the band or Amanda Palmer (I don't actually) this is about how a musician has pulled herself out of the RIAA's machine and been very successful doing so.

/also, "I don't know about XXX, but I'm sure it's crap" makes you sound like an idiot.

No, its about how she scammed her fans by pretending that they were funding a record (implying that she otherwise couldn't) which had already been recorded. This was a hipster utilizing their avant garde popularity to suck money out of morons. Not that I object.

...

I do hope you're not serious. She spends the first 30 seconds of the video on Kickstarter saying she's excited because she just finished recording a new album and needs money for everything that comes after: mixing, promoting, packaging, distributing and touring.

Yeah, she has the money to do those things. All her endeavor is, as it was for my local musician friends when I refused to give them cash, is a way to get paid by her fans without having to deliver a proven, good, product. Its a dodge for musicians and bands that didn't used to exist, because the hipster fanbases weren't as rabid or loyal. People now are willing to pay her without a proven product, which is, to me, a stupid thing to do for musicians. I may be more picky or less loyal than other fans, but I still don't see the logic on paying for the risk of her business.

You are so right. Why in the world would people give money to someone whose previous products they have enjoyed? The fact that they enjoyed the earlier stuff is in no way a guarantee that they'll enjoy the new stuff. People should never take chances like this.

I bet you're a blast at parties.


Do you give money to whatever company makes your car to develop their next one? Do you donate to the liquor store because their past behavior leads you to believe they will continue to make you happy? Fanboyism has grown to epic proportions where idiots will fund this kind of thing because they like the weird chick who shows her tits.
 
2012-06-04 11:50:39 PM  

Knobbs: No Evelyn Evelyn love?

Also, this wasn't a money grab. I got more than I would have otherwise by supporting this kickstarter. I considered it pa pre order where more of my money went to the person I wanted it to.


No Evelyn Evelyn love from me. DD are OK, but she seems a bit too crazy for the average guy.
 
2012-06-04 11:57:44 PM  
And she celebrated by showing us her BOOBIES!!

:D

You're pretty awesome Ms. Palmer.
 
2012-06-05 12:11:25 AM  

rocky_howard: And she celebrated by showing us her BOOBIES!!

:D

You're pretty awesome Ms. Palmer.


Mmmmm hairy arm pits. Hot.
 
2012-06-05 12:16:07 AM  
Good for her. Now if she would get back to making music and touring with Brian V. I would be excited to go to her shows again.
 
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