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(LA Weekly)   Former Van Halen manager claims Valerie was the Yoko Ono of the band who drove Dave out   (laweekly.com) divider line 95
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2012-06-04 01:11:45 PM  
Then we are all good now.
 
2012-06-04 01:16:32 PM  
Had nothing to do with Dave being a frikkin tool, I'm sure
 
2012-06-04 01:18:55 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Had nothing to do with Dave being a frikkin tool, I'm sure


Nor does it have anything to do with the Van Halen brothers being pricks that burn every bridge they cross.
 
2012-06-04 01:21:52 PM  
Then why did Van Hagar break up?
 
2012-06-04 01:22:59 PM  
I'm assuming "Valerie" is a brand of vodka for the very rich.
 
2012-06-04 01:25:48 PM  
I'd dump Dave for Valerie.

Oh, hell yeah
 
2012-06-04 01:33:44 PM  
Funny, in the twenty years that Van Halen has been auditioning lead singers, this is the first I've ever heard/read that Valerie had something to do with it. Sounds like this guy is just blaming Valerie because Eddie changed after he married her and didn't want to be a constant party-boy - which could lead to temptation and the ruination of his marriage. Yeah, that's all Valerie's fault. Eddie had NOTHING to do with that decision.
 
2012-06-04 01:39:19 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Had nothing to do with Dave being a frikkin tool, I'm sure


Well considering Yoko didn't break up the Beatles, your comment and the headline are both correct.
 
2012-06-04 01:43:39 PM  
The reason why Van Halen is doing well now is because Eddie is sober. A Different Kind of Truth is the first record he ever made sober in his entire career, and this is the first tour he has ever done sober. He is clean, much healthier than a few years ago, and gets to go onstage and play music with his brother and especially his son, who it turns out, is a very very good bass player.

I don't know if Val is to blame for any of this. David Lee Roth is an egomaniac who never shuts up and back then when he was at his arrogant height of fame, his antics combined with Eddie's drinking made for lots of fighting. Dave has gained some perspective with age and isn't as annoying to his bandmates anymore.
 
2012-06-04 01:43:47 PM  
valerie broke bon jovi up, idiots.
 
2012-06-04 01:46:15 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Had nothing to do with Dave being a frikkin tool, I'm sure

Nor does it have anything to do with the Van Halen brothers being pricks that burn every bridge they cross.


esp since this is what sammy had to say about them??
cant be that two different singers had the same problem with the band :D
 
2012-06-04 01:51:52 PM  
Whatever, Subby.

Everybody knows the Beatles weren't any good until Yoko began to assert her influence, and that I suck at trolling.
 
2012-06-04 01:52:59 PM  
Sammy Hagar is a vanilla hack and David Lee Roth is vocally challenged aging would-be lothario, but they are both better people than Eddie Van Halen when he's drinking.
 
2012-06-04 01:57:16 PM  

gilgigamesh: Whatever, Subby.

Everybody knows the Beatles weren't any good until Yoko began to assert her influence, and that I suck at trolling.


I'd give far more blame for the Beatles' breakup on Brian Epstein's death than John getting involved with Yoko. When Epstein was alive, he handled all the business shiat for them, and they could concentrate on the music. With him gone, they had to start dealing with a lot of that themselves (and made the mistake of bringing in total scumbag Alan Klein.) That stuff caused far more dissention in the band than anything Yoko did or said.
 
2012-06-04 02:14:26 PM  
Is "former Van Halen manager" writing a book/

Don't Troll Me Bro!: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Had nothing to do with Dave being a frikkin tool, I'm sure

Nor does it have anything to do with the Van Halen brothers being pricks that burn every bridge they cross.


Thread over. Eddie and Alex are the biggest assholes in VH.

--

I also agree that Yoko had little to do with breaking up the Beatles.
 
2012-06-04 02:21:59 PM  
I vote that it was the VanHalen boys being pricks and causing their own problems.

/I saw Chickenfoot a couple of weeks ago
//Great Show!
 
2012-06-04 02:37:32 PM  
Ah Valerie, one of my first crushes. Looking now, I am not sure what I saw in her, but back in the day, I could fap to a picture of the back of her knees...
 
2012-06-04 02:43:27 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Then why did Van Hagar break up?


Also Valerie.
 
2012-06-04 03:21:47 PM  
t1.gstatic.com

Valerie Call on me
 
2012-06-04 03:21:58 PM  
Totally worth it.



/so while you're here, enjoy the view
 
2012-06-04 03:23:15 PM  
Did she try to become their manager, too?

image.allmusic.com
 
2012-06-04 03:23:42 PM  
Oops, meant to include.

i522.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-04 04:55:29 PM  
Valerie Bertenernie?
 
2012-06-04 04:57:03 PM  
Life went on without him.

/bozeebozeebop
 
2012-06-04 05:00:18 PM  

vernonFL: [t1.gstatic.com image 224x224]

Valerie Call on me


Top 40 dreck. I would've been impressed if you busted out Richard Thompson's "Valerie."
 
2012-06-04 05:00:27 PM  
It's always the fault of the other woman. It's never the fault of the man. That is why we invest all of our power in women. Rarely will you see a world leader or CEO who is a man. That is because the poor dears cannot think for themselves. They cannot be decisive. They are nothing but a roiling bundle of hormones whose emotions over-power rational thought.

Or, maybe we could go with something that's not insulting to every penis-having human.
 
2012-06-04 05:07:26 PM  
my wife used to knwo a woman named Valerie. Weapons grade MILF. good lord was that women put together.

anyways.....when michael anthony was on adam carolla about a year ago, i recall him basically saying EVH and MVH had seized control but ceded control to their manager, who pushed Mike out (although EVH probably wanted Wolfgang in the band despite him not singing).

i seem to recall someone saying taht on the last couple of "no michael anthony" tours, the band pipes in his vocals. which if true is pretty farked up, "yeah man, uhhh......you're out of the band, but, uhhhhh....hoo boy..... this is -- this really awkard -- uhhh.....yeah. You're not in the band anymore but we're gonna use your vocals. Friendsies?"
 
2012-06-04 05:13:05 PM  

rickythepenguin: i seem to recall someone saying taht on the last couple of "no michael anthony" tours, the band pipes in his vocals. which if true is pretty farked up, "yeah man, uhhh......you're out of the band, but, uhhhhh....hoo boy..... this is -- this really awkard -- uhhh.....yeah. You're not in the band anymore but we're gonna use your vocals. Friendsies?"


As long as they send him checks, I'm sure he's cool with it.
 
2012-06-04 05:13:51 PM  

jake_lex: gilgigamesh: Whatever, Subby.

Everybody knows the Beatles weren't any good until Yoko began to assert her influence, and that I suck at trolling.

I'd give far more blame for the Beatles' breakup on Brian Epstein's death than John getting involved with Yoko. When Epstein was alive, he handled all the business shiat for them, and they could concentrate on the music. With him gone, they had to start dealing with a lot of that themselves (and made the mistake of bringing in total scumbag Alan Klein.) That stuff caused far more dissention in the band than anything Yoko did or said.


Yep. And John's drug addictions and laziness didn't help, considering Paul is a go-getter, and a work-a-holic.

And lets face it... deep down inside, they all wanted to go solo. They were all going in wildly different directions.
 
2012-06-04 05:14:17 PM  
ph.cdn.photos.upi.com

51? Yes please.
 
2012-06-04 05:17:03 PM  

Crewmannumber6: As long as they send him checks, I'm sure he's cool with it.



yeah.

there were some hilariously awful videos of VH's last tour on Youtube. I don't know if EVH was drunk or just having MANY off nights, but there are videos of that tour where he can't stay in key to save his life. it is like a real life version of those hilariuos "Rush shreds", "clapton shreds", "satriani shreds" etc but that shiat was real.
 
2012-06-04 05:23:43 PM  
Pretty sure Dave said in his book that the way she got involved was that she wanted to come to his room one night after a show - he didnt know who she was & wasn't interested when he found out, so he passed down word for her to beat it - he said she wound up going after Eddie who was in the hotel room down the hall, and the rest was history. I was suprised they got back at all when you dis a guy's wife in a book.
 
2012-06-04 05:28:36 PM  
lovingthetasmaniandevil.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-04 05:30:04 PM  
Both Jack Daniels and Jim Beam agree, Val was the problem.
 
2012-06-04 05:34:39 PM  

rickythepenguin: anyways.....when michael anthony was on adam carolla about a year ago, i recall him basically saying EVH and MVH had seized control but ceded control to their manager, who pushed Mike out (although EVH probably wanted Wolfgang in the band despite him not singing).


Who is MVH?

Mexican Vagina Hospital?
 
2012-06-04 05:42:07 PM  

downstairs: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Had nothing to do with Dave being a frikkin tool, I'm sure

Well considering Yoko didn't break up the Beatles, your comment and the headline are both correct.


Agreed. She may have been an easy excuse, but not the reason.

/George's frustrations are well documented. I think he would have left no matter what
 
2012-06-04 05:46:37 PM  

Sybarite: Oops, meant to include.

[i522.photobucket.com image 368x480]


Hello.
Too bad I saw her a year or so ago on Craig Ferguson and had to conclude that she was utterly vapid. Still pretty, but please keep her mouth shut. It was very disappointing.
 
2012-06-04 05:50:10 PM  

jj325: Agreed. She may have been an easy excuse, but not the reason.

/George's frustrations are well documented. I think he would have left no matter what


And the fact that the Beatles have come out, in an interview that she was part of, and said the whole "Yoko broke us up" thing was complete and utter BS.

Watch "Let it Be" the movie. She's sitting in the corner just staring. Ok, maybe it comes off as creepy... but she never interferred with the band. She never told John to do anything different as a Beatle.

She WAS most likely manipulative with John's love life, money, drugs, and even his solo career. But not the Beatles.

I've heard many interviews with Yoko. From the 70s to present time. By all indications, she had nothing but respect for the Beatles and would never want to fark with their magic.
 
2012-06-04 05:52:58 PM  
Valerie Bertenelli and Van Halen I are the best things Eddie has ever done in his life.

//F**k this Cohen poof.
 
2012-06-04 05:55:34 PM  

Oreamnos: Sybarite: Oops, meant to include.

[i522.photobucket.com image 368x480]

Hello.
Too bad I saw her a year or so ago on Craig Ferguson and had to conclude that she was utterly vapid. Still pretty, but please keep her mouth shut. It was very disappointing.


I find her to be quite meh. I'm definitely not a "studman69" but her face always seems a bit off to me.
 
2012-06-04 05:58:11 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Who is MVH?


the drummer.

downstairs: By all indications, she had nothing but respect for the Beatles and would never want to fark with their magic.



you are mistaken. she really rubbed George and particularly Paul the wrong way when she began offering critiques and suggestions about songs. Paul is on record about being more or less ambivalent about her being omnipresent, but when she appointed herself as a de facto producer, that's where he drew the line. there's a story of some session where she's in the studio and at the end of a song, she says something about "needs more vocal" or "let's try it again" or some such, and Paul is like, "are you farking kidding me?"

i agree with all the points in this thread about Yoko being the escape goat and the Beatles having other and larger issues that led to their split, some predating Yoko's arrival, but to say she "never wnate to fark with their magic" is at odds with what happened.
 
2012-06-04 06:04:06 PM  

rickythepenguin: you are mistaken. she really rubbed George and particularly Paul the wrong way when she began offering critiques and suggestions about songs. Paul is on record about being more or less ambivalent about her being omnipresent, but when she appointed herself as a de facto producer, that's where he drew the line. there's a story of some session where she's in the studio and at the end of a song, she says something about "needs more vocal" or "let's try it again" or some such, and Paul is like, "are you farking kidding me?"

i agree with all the points in this thread about Yoko being the escape goat and the Beatles having other and larger issues that led to their split, some predating Yoko's arrival, but to say she "never wnate to fark with their magic" is at odds with what happened.


Hmmmmm, not saying I don't believe you. I've read a lot on the Beatles, and an a little bit of a Beatles geek. Where did you hear this?

I don't know... maybe 30 years later, when they all made nice, and had 30 years of fat checks coming in the mail... they sort of "forgot" that when discussing it.

I was only 5 when they broke up, so I wasn't really reading articles on the back then.
 
2012-06-04 06:05:49 PM  
I would certainly P EVH X's V.
 
2012-06-04 06:07:39 PM  

rickythepenguin:
i agree with all the points in this thread about Yoko being the escape goat and the Beatles having other and larger issues that led to their split, some predating Yoko's arrival, but to say she "never wnate to fark with their magic" is at odds with what happened.


IIRC, it's also at odds with a few letters (which I believe were written by Paul) that were auctioned off a few years back. He pretty much lays out that he didn't appreciate her telling the band how to perform.

/remembers the CNN article
 
2012-06-04 06:14:42 PM  
"i agree with all the points in this thread about Yoko being the escape goat and the Beatles having other and larger issues that led to their split, some predating Yoko's arrival, but to say she "never wnate to fark with their magic" is at odds with what happened."

The word you're looking for here is "scapegoat".

"Escape goat" sounds like the getaway vehicle in a third world country.
 
2012-06-04 06:18:18 PM  

downstairs: rickythepenguin: you are mistaken. she really rubbed George and particularly Paul the wrong way when she began offering critiques and suggestions about songs. Paul is on record about being more or less ambivalent about her being omnipresent, but when she appointed herself as a de facto producer, that's where he drew the line. there's a story of some session where she's in the studio and at the end of a song, she says something about "needs more vocal" or "let's try it again" or some such, and Paul is like, "are you farking kidding me?"

i agree with all the points in this thread about Yoko being the escape goat and the Beatles having other and larger issues that led to their split, some predating Yoko's arrival, but to say she "never wnate to fark with their magic" is at odds with what happened.

Hmmmmm, not saying I don't believe you. I've read a lot on the Beatles, and an a little bit of a Beatles geek. Where did you hear this?

I don't know... maybe 30 years later, when they all made nice, and had 30 years of fat checks coming in the mail... they sort of "forgot" that when discussing it.

I was only 5 when they broke up, so I wasn't really reading articles on the back then.


I read that in one of the bios on McCartney, and I think this is mentioned in Geoff Emerick's book as well.
 
2012-06-04 06:33:44 PM  

Poison: I read that in one of the bios on McCartney, and I think this is mentioned in Geoff Emerick's book as well.


Cool, thanks. I haven't read any bios except I think a George Harrison one for a book report when I was a kid, and that terrible John Lennon one. (Goldman?)
 
2012-06-04 06:38:35 PM  
Ok there seems to be consensus absolving Yoko of any blame, so can we move onto the question of our generation? Did Courtney kill Kurt?
 
2012-06-04 06:43:34 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The reason why Van Halen is doing well now is because Eddie is sober. A Different Kind of Truth is the first record he ever made sober in his entire career, and this is the first tour he has ever done sober. He is clean, much healthier than a few years ago, and gets to go onstage and play music with his brother and especially his son, who it turns out, is a very very good bass player.

I don't know if Val is to blame for any of this. David Lee Roth is an egomaniac who never shuts up and back then when he was at his arrogant height of fame, his antics combined with Eddie's drinking made for lots of fighting. Dave has gained some perspective with age and isn't as annoying to his bandmates anymore.


considering the new album is mostly comprised of recycled riffs from the late 70's early 80's i'm gonna call you out on the whole 'better because ed's sober.' i'm REALLY gonna call you out because the ADKT is absolute SHIAT. i would listen to '3' in its entirety 50 times in a row before i would voluntarily listen to any of this half-arsed crap they're trying to hock now

btw, ed was sober when they wrote Balance, which blows the coont hairs off of A Different Kind of Truth despite hagar
 
2012-06-04 06:45:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: AdolfOliverPanties: Who is MVH?

the drummer.



Musician Van Halen?

His name is Alex. Not sure where you are getting the M.
 
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