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(Politicus USA)   It's funny how it's Obama's fault when gas prices rise, but he doesn't get credit when they fall. It's almost as if the liberal media isn't   (politicususa.com) divider line 411
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2012-06-04 11:43:29 AM
anyone who thinks the media are liberal is either a liar or a fool. the media hasn't been truly "liberal" since the days of walter cronkite.
 
2012-06-04 11:50:21 AM
Gas prices have dropped a little due to the current European finical crisis. The American dollar is getting stronger against the Euro. Unless Obama helped cause the current European crisis, he had nothing to do with the very slight drop in prices.
 
2012-06-04 11:58:30 AM

ferretman: Unless Obama helped cause the current European crisis,


NewsBusters link asserting this in 5... 4...
 
2012-06-04 12:03:38 PM
It's almost as if the liberal media isn't full of liars and snakes?

I almost agree.
 
2012-06-04 12:14:23 PM
Oh, FFS

Everyone on fark knows that I am not an Obama fan. But, at least I try to make my complaints about things that are under his control. This is not one of them. Time and time again, it must be said, that if the engine of the economy is the consumer, then the president is a bolt holding the drivers side door on the frame.

When the gas prices rise or fall, it is a combination of a.million things. Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.
 
2012-06-04 12:19:53 PM

cman: Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.


plus, if he did control gas prices, he'd be hammered for it by both the right and the left as a chavez-like socialist.
 
2012-06-04 12:38:20 PM

cman: Oh, FFS

Everyone on fark knows that I am not an Obama fan. But, at least I try to make my complaints about things that are under his control. This is not one of them. Time and time again, it must be said, that if the engine of the economy is the consumer, then the president is a bolt holding the drivers side door on the frame.

When the gas prices rise or fall, it is a combination of a.million things. Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.


Can you use your independent bona fides to go tell the Freepers that? All us non-troll Farkers already know that.
 
2012-06-04 12:45:43 PM

cman: Oh, FFS

Everyone on fark knows that I am not an Obama fan. But, at least I try to make my complaints about things that are under his control. This is not one of them. Time and time again, it must be said, that if the engine of the economy is the consumer, then the president is a bolt holding the drivers side door on the frame.

When the gas prices rise or fall, it is a combination of a.million things. Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.


Well, they rose a few months ago when he rejected that oil pipeline. Since they're falling now, that must mean he has changed his mind and approved it, right?
 
2012-06-04 01:06:34 PM
Only the President you don't like has any real power.
 
2012-06-04 01:14:05 PM
It was funny how the biatching and moaning from the usual assholes about Obama being responsible for high gas prices suddenly disappeared when the prices began to fall...

They either have no clue how global economies work or they're disingenuous partisans looking to dupe the ignorant amongst us.
 
2012-06-04 01:18:23 PM

keylock71: They either have no clue how global economies work or they're disingenuous partisans looking to dupe the ignorant amongst us.


All of column A, all of column B.
 
2012-06-04 01:21:49 PM

cman: Oh, FFS

Everyone on fark knows that I am not an Obama fan. But, at least I try to make my complaints about things that are under his control. This is not one of them. Time and time again, it must be said, that if the engine of the economy is the consumer, then the president is a bolt holding the drivers side door on the frame.

When the gas prices rise or fall, it is a combination of a.million things. Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.


I think you are legit and actually add to the discussion even when I disagree with you. I'd buy you a beer.
 
2012-06-04 01:34:44 PM

cman: Oh, FFS

Everyone on fark knows that I am not an Obama fan. But, at least I try to make my complaints about things that are under his control. This is not one of them. Time and time again, it must be said, that if the engine of the economy is the consumer, then the president is a bolt holding the drivers side door on the frame.

When the gas prices rise or fall, it is a combination of a.million things. Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.


That is a lot of credit for almost any president. In reality, the President is more like the turn signal switch, he can point and say I want to go this way, but it is up to congress (the steering wheel) to actually change directions.
 
2012-06-04 01:34:51 PM

keylock71: It was funny how the biatching and moaning from the usual assholes about Obama being responsible for high gas prices suddenly disappeared when the prices began to fall...


I really wouldnt call it a fall. More like a down turn.

cman: Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.


Does he have control over what comes out of his mouth?! If he honestly believes that oil speculators have so much control over the price then give them something to speculate about! Tell them he is going to push for drilling in the gulf again. Tell them he is going to push for drilling along the shelf and tell them he'll sign anything that crosses his desk that will produce crude with the next five years. If the speculators have that much power you're going to see the price drop over night. If they don't then when the new sources of oil come on line then you will see the drop. Either way some day you will see a drop.
 
2012-06-04 01:35:20 PM
It's funny how it's Obama's Bush's fault when gas prices rise, but he doesn't get credit when they fall. It's almost as if the liberal Rightwing media isn't
 
2012-06-04 01:45:18 PM
If the so-called liberal media crowed about it they'd be as wrong as the dipshiats who said prices were Obama's fault when they were higher.

Don't feed the tit-for-tat beast, subby. It obfuscates the real issues.
 
2012-06-04 01:47:23 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I really wouldnt call it a fall. More like a down turn.


You can call it whatever the hell you want, my friend...

A few months ago, I was paying $3.95/gallon and this morning I paid $3.39/gallon.
 
2012-06-04 01:47:37 PM

borg: It's funny how it's Obama's Bush's fault when gas prices rise, but he doesn't get credit when they fall. It's almost as if the liberal Rightwing media isn't


Are you mentally retarded?
 
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2012-06-04 01:48:57 PM

borg: It's funny how it's Obama's Bush's fault when gas prices rise, but he doesn't get credit when they fall. It's almost as if the liberal Rightwing media isn't


It's funny how so many freeper arguments are like this. The idea of right-wing press giving Obama credit or blaming Bush for anything is also funny.
 
2012-06-04 01:49:57 PM
The media is neither liberal or conservative. The media is corporate.

All rise for the corporate anthem....
 
2012-06-04 01:51:05 PM

keylock71: A few months ago, I was paying $3.95/gallon and this morning I paid $3.39/gallon.


Yowzers, where is this? My local station is $4.17 and that's a big drop in the past two weeks.
 
2012-06-04 01:51:28 PM

borg: It's funny how it's Obama's Bush's fault when gas prices rise, but he doesn't get credit when they fall. It's almost as if the liberal Rightwing media isn't


I've kept a spreadsheet of gas prices since early 2007 (don't ask...). I keep track of price per gallon at a BP station and at a Sam's, cost per barrel, cost of wholesale gas price, and cost of natural gas (thanks, Bloomberg!). I update it at least monthly, but sometimes several times per week.

Looking back at this time in 2008, 5/30/08 to be exact, it was $3.84 per gallon, $127 per barrel.

By election day 2008, the prices had gone down to $2.38 per gallon and $65 per barrel. Explanation was the same as it is today, market speculators. It bottomed out on 12/27/08 at $1.45 per gallon and $37 per barrel, and then it started to rise again.

The media only covered it when it reached a certain price point, then they stopped covering it. I don't think it has anything to do with bias, but more with sensationalism, which is all the media is about today anyway, regardless of political leaning (not including obvious biased sites like Drudge, Fox News, Huffington Post, etc.).
 
2012-06-04 01:52:13 PM

Diogenes: Don't feed the tit-for-tat beast, subby. It obfuscates the real issues.


Don't feed the tats-for-tits beast, either. They're beautiful without the ink.
 
2012-06-04 01:52:15 PM

ferretman: Gas prices have dropped a little due to the current European finical crisis. The American dollar is getting stronger against the Euro. Unless Obama helped cause the current European crisis, he had nothing to do with the very slight drop in prices.



He had nothing to do with them going up either, which is kind of the point of the headline.
 
2012-06-04 01:53:04 PM
Doublethink is so ingrained in people these days it doesn't surprise me.
 
2012-06-04 01:53:10 PM

keylock71: It was funny how the biatching and moaning from the usual assholes about Obama being responsible for high gas prices suddenly disappeared when the prices began to fall...

They either have no clue how global economies work or they're disingenuous partisans looking to dupe the ignorant amongst us.


FTFY
 
2012-06-04 01:54:19 PM

AcneVulgaris: The media is neither liberal or conservative. The media is corporate.


which ideology does a corporate cleptocracy most align with? Prob the one that wants to privatize all social services deregulate everything and cut taxes for the rich...
 
2012-06-04 01:54:32 PM
They have to cater to people that think when bad things happen, blame can be placed on a mystical being with goat legs.
 
2012-06-04 01:55:05 PM
The usual complainers are too busy calling their brokers to be bothered to thank the President.
 
2012-06-04 01:55:07 PM

Slives: cman: Oh, FFS

Everyone on fark knows that I am not an Obama fan. But, at least I try to make my complaints about things that are under his control. This is not one of them. Time and time again, it must be said, that if the engine of the economy is the consumer, then the president is a bolt holding the drivers side door on the frame.

When the gas prices rise or fall, it is a combination of a.million things. Obama is not a dictator; he does not control as much as people perceive him to control.

That is a lot of credit for almost any president. In reality, the President is more like the turn signal switch, he can point and say I want to go this way, but it is up to congress (the steering wheel) to actually change directions.


To further the analogy, the uninformed voting masses are the drunk driver at the wheel.
 
2012-06-04 01:55:56 PM
It's an election year, of course gas prices are falling.
 
2012-06-04 01:56:17 PM
So private industry figured out a way to get around his blocking drilling and construction of pipelines. He most certainly does not deserve credit, except if his continued efforts to kill the world economy caused demand to decline as well.
 
2012-06-04 01:57:01 PM
multiply.com
 
2012-06-04 01:57:36 PM

beta_plus: So private industry figured out a way to get around his blocking drilling and construction of pipelines.


graphs showing increase of drilling rigs and oil production showing you are a liar in 3...2....1....
 
2012-06-04 01:58:27 PM
ohhh excuussssee me.

sorry you don't get credit - people are too busy worried about the restatement of the jobs numbers, the lack of new jobs, the rising employment rate and the slow down of the economy.
 
2012-06-04 02:00:31 PM

ImpendingCynic: keylock71: A few months ago, I was paying $3.95/gallon and this morning I paid $3.39/gallon.

Yowzers, where is this? My local station is $4.17 and that's a big drop in the past two weeks.


South Coast of Massachusetts.
 
2012-06-04 02:01:24 PM

beta_plus: So private industry figured out a way to get around his blocking drilling and construction of pipelines. He most certainly does not deserve credit, except if his continued efforts to kill the world economy caused demand to decline as well.


Ahem.
 
2012-06-04 02:02:22 PM
Gasoline prices are spot market price and is fueled with commodity buyers that have to sell their inventory. Those that bet gasoline prices would rise in an expanding economy (i.e. the evil speculators) now have to sell it at the spot price (i.e. take a loss on the gas they bought months ago).

Gasoline spot and futures is dropping because a) Iran has talen a backseat and b) recessionary pressure always deflates prices (unless you are Jimmy carter). It's more worrisome that gasoline has not dropped as much as the rest of the economy and could possibly be an indication of stagflation.

The real driver is china. The will continue to keep wages low in the U.S. while their economy grows at a 10% clip. Until wages in China reach western wages, neither europe or the U.S. will see recovery. China is now seen as a stable country to do business.

Anyone paying attention to the U.S. sending warships to the asia-pacific region? An economic reason for doing this is to make China appear less stable than it is and increase the risk of fleeing capital.
 
2012-06-04 02:03:16 PM

beta_plus: So private industry figured out a way to get around his blocking drilling and construction of pipelines. He most certainly does not deserve credit, except if his continued efforts to kill the world economy caused demand to decline as well.


For the first time in over 60 years, the USA exports more oil than they import.
 
2012-06-04 02:03:33 PM

AcneVulgaris: The media is neither liberal or conservative. The media is corporate.

All rise for the corporate anthem....


so vote republican?

actually, that's bullshiat. so far, the "mainstream media" has been solidly pro-romney and anti-obama. we won't even talk about fox, of course .
 
2012-06-04 02:03:46 PM
I'm in the PNW. Gas was 4.21 this weekend, but should drop due to a refinery opening back up.
 
2012-06-04 02:07:07 PM

borg: It's funny how it's Obama's Bush's fault when gas prices rise, but he doesn't get credit when they fall. It's almost as if the liberal Rightwing media isn't


So, was it wrong for conservatives to defend Bush when gas prices went up under his term? Or do you think you can't blame the president for gas price fluctuations and so conservatives were wrong to blame Obama for the recent gas price hike?

The problem with these kinds of games in a two-party political system is that they go both ways.
 
2012-06-04 02:09:21 PM

Citrate1007: To further the analogy, the uninformed voting masses are the drunk driver at the wheel.


You're right...

... which is why it could be argued that direct democracy (and maybe even over-responsiveness to voters by legislators) is a bad idea.

This analogy is kinda fun, though!

Judiciary = Brake system (err, usually?).

Academics, intellectuals and the education system (when run objectively and well) = Headlights.

EPA / FDA / other regulatory bodies = Fuel-, oil- and air filter systems, keeping the engine healthy when properly maintained?

Congress = 15 kids in the back of the van screaming and throwing pudding at each other.

Big-money and evangelical religion = Windshield and windows... all spray-painted completely black.

International allies = A great view on a scenic drive, giving a little perspective or a new look at things?

Taxes = Gasoline... don't put enough, or the right kind, in and we ain't goin' anywhere but downhill?

Hmmm.
 
2012-06-04 02:10:03 PM
It's also funny how when oil prices spike we get two threads a day whining about the evil speculators but when prices drop nobody says a word.
 
2012-06-04 02:10:36 PM

Diogenes: beta_plus: So private industry figured out a way to get around his blocking drilling and construction of pipelines. He most certainly does not deserve credit, except if his continued efforts to kill the world economy caused demand to decline as well.

Ahem.


Since they think Taxes are at all time highs, I doubt the fact that oil production is up is going to dissuade them from thinking we're closing oil pumping operations left and right.
 
2012-06-04 02:10:36 PM

Diogenes: beta_plus: So private industry figured out a way to get around his blocking drilling and construction of pipelines. He most certainly does not deserve credit, except if his continued efforts to kill the world economy caused demand to decline as well.

Ahem.


U.S. Oil Production, in Barrels

2003: 2,073,453,000
2004: 1,983,302,000
2005: 1,890,106,000
2006: 1,862,259,000
2007: 1,848,450,000
2008: 1,811,817,000
2009: 1,956,596,000
2010: 1,998,137,000
2011: 2,055,646,000 (estimated in November)


B-b-b-but Obama is bad for oil production, so this must be in spite of him.

It's just like national security. Obama was going to be horrible - treating terrorists as common criminals. Then his orders result in many dead Al Qaeda leaders and the head of Osama Bin Laden, and "Uh...the military is doing all that behind his back!"

If anything, they hate Obama more when he does something that doesn't fit their strawman version of him. Then they have to manipulate the facts to make them mesh with their version of the president.

These farkwits are truly worthless.
 
2012-06-04 02:12:34 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: the rising employment rate


Why would people worry about a rising employment rate?
 
2012-06-04 02:13:09 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: It's also funny how when oil prices spike we get two threads a day whining about the evil speculators but when prices drop nobody says a word.


Let me fix that for you:

HAHAHAHAHA! Speculators have to buy oil at their contracts' above market value!

But, I'm sorry if they don't have enough money left to buy a good meal...may I propose they eat bags of dicks?
 
2012-06-04 02:14:29 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: the rising employment rate


tenpoundsofdisingenuouscheese is now against higher employment.
 
2012-06-04 02:14:34 PM
Did the media blame Obama for gas prices or did they just report that Republicans were blaming Obama for gas prices?
 
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