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2012-06-04 11:06:44 AM  
Nobody would touch that crap if deemer, mushies, buttons and 'cid were legal, as they certainly should be. I cannot wait for this tool's fifteen minutes are up.
 
2012-06-04 11:07:24 AM  
to be
 
2012-06-04 11:07:26 AM  
You know what drug DOESN'T cause you to chew someone's face off? Yup, you guessed it. Lotrimin.
 
2012-06-04 11:08:25 AM  
I haven't been following this story closely; have they actually determined that the guy who ate the other guy's face was actually on bath salts or is that still speculation at this point?
 
2012-06-04 11:10:01 AM  
"It felt so evil. It felt like the darkest, evilest thing imaginable."

I'd like to see the bathroom in that mobile home, just to get some perspective on the matter.
 
2012-06-04 11:10:05 AM  
Being on 'bath salts' sounds like finding yourself living inside a Cannibal Corpse song. Yikes!
 
2012-06-04 11:10:34 AM  
Sgt. Moses Hightower: Yamma, yamma, yamma, yamma, yahhhhma. Who think they can kill the brother, of Medula! If I could rip out the heart of a yak and eat it for breakfast...

Arnie: That would bring him back to life?

Sgt. Moses Hightower: No, mon. I'm a-hungry!
 
2012-06-04 11:10:50 AM  
Bath salts are a helluva drug
 
2012-06-04 11:11:56 AM  
"This is a terrible drug because it takes a combination of methamphetamine, and the paranoia and the aggressiveness, and LSD, the hallucinations, and PCP, the extreme paranoia that you get, combines it into one, and has unpredictable effects on human behavior," Paul Adams, an emergency room doctor in Miami, told CNN.

It's a terrible drug for the opposite reason of that, numbnuts. It's just chemically active enough to interact significantly with your biology and neurochemistry, but the precise functionality has been altered more or less at random to avoid legal restrictions on stimulants. So it might be what you're saying, it might act as a straight-up stimulant, it might do nothing whatsoever, or it might simply poison you outright. The problem is unpredictability, not some specific set of effects.

Another problem is that people dumb enough to snort the equivalent of refunctionalized drain cleaner is both stupid and crazy to begin with, so even a minor effect can send them off the rails.
 
2012-06-04 11:13:14 AM  
I wish they would stop calling it "bath salts." They aren't bath salts, that is just how they are marketed to get around labeling laws. It's like calling a bong a "tobacco water pipe." They are synthetic psychoactive designer chemicals, or "research chemicals", the most popular right now being MDPV, but there are a ton of others. Most of these are technically illegal under the Federal Analogues Act (some aren't), but that law is a little more difficult to enforce and use for prosecution.
 
2012-06-04 11:14:01 AM  
Amidst all the blather about "dangerous drugs" and people's right to do what they want to their own body, there is one incontrovertible truth -- bath salts is a dangerous drug.
 
2012-06-04 11:14:45 AM  
So, dial me in here, folks. I get liquor, I've felt all smooth & mellow, plus uninhibited and then the barfing my guts out part. I know the Reefer can make one paranoid with too much of it, and yet it's X-tremely popular because of the relaxation and all. So the Bath Salts can make you eat faces and have gnarly, foaming hallucinations. Where's the good part? What's the payoff for the people who use and enjoy the Bath Salts? Is it a zesty, amped-up high? Do you feel like Zeus, ready to mount a she-cow and take on a legion of cops, completely nude and armed only with a cigarette lighter?

'Cause I could really go for that right now.
 
2012-06-04 11:15:37 AM  
As one who is reading World War Z for the first time, I'm freaking out man!
 
2012-06-04 11:16:10 AM  
In contrast to bath salts, pot has never made me to want to eat a person's face, no matter how strong the munchies have gotten.
 
2012-06-04 11:16:25 AM  

fred_chan: I haven't been following this story closely; have they actually determined that the guy who ate the other guy's face was actually on bath salts or is that still speculation at this point?


3 hits of LSD was what the guy told them.
however everyone knows LSD = 60's and everyone loves The Beatles
 
2012-06-04 11:16:40 AM  
Rehabilitated former "bath salts" zombie explains what it's like to hunger for the flesh of the living

Sharp said he never felt the urge to "eat anybody's flesh" while under the influence of bath salts
 
2012-06-04 11:17:30 AM  
Not the same substance used to scent your bathwater, bath salts contain amphetamine-like chemicals

This is CNN.
 
2012-06-04 11:18:02 AM  

signaljammer: Nobody would touch that crap if deemer, mushies, buttons and 'cid were legal, as they certainly should be. I cannot wait for this tool's fifteen minutes are up.


That's kinda what I'm trying to fiigure out about these "bath salt zombie" stories: Nothing more than the DEA/ONDCP usual BS scare tactics? Or is this stuff really as scary as it appears? I mean on the one hand it seems a little far-fetched, on the other hand that guy CHEWED THE FACE OFF another person
 
2012-06-04 11:18:06 AM  
Ummm, the bath salt addict in this article is not the dude that went all Zombie in Miami.
 
2012-06-04 11:19:03 AM  
 
2012-06-04 11:19:37 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-04 11:19:53 AM  

Magorn: signaljammer: Nobody would touch that crap if deemer, mushies, buttons and 'cid were legal, as they certainly should be. I cannot wait for this tool's fifteen minutes are up.

That's kinda what I'm trying to fiigure out about these "bath salt zombie" stories: Nothing more than the DEA/ONDCP usual BS scare tactics? Or is this stuff really as scary as it appears? I mean on the one hand it seems a little far-fetched, on the other hand that guy CHEWED THE FACE OFF another person


Yeah I am not a "drugs are the evul" type of guy but this sounds like some really bad shiat.
 
2012-06-04 11:21:23 AM  
Rand Paul: this blood is on your hands!
 
2012-06-04 11:21:40 AM  
www.alicia-logic.com
/hot like smoldering bath salts
 
2012-06-04 11:21:56 AM  
The funniest part about the bath salts coming out of florida is that they are a zero tolerance state for pot.
 
2012-06-04 11:24:30 AM  

GWLush: Magorn: signaljammer: Nobody would touch that crap if deemer, mushies, buttons and 'cid were legal, as they certainly should be. I cannot wait for this tool's fifteen minutes are up.

That's kinda what I'm trying to fiigure out about these "bath salt zombie" stories: Nothing more than the DEA/ONDCP usual BS scare tactics? Or is this stuff really as scary as it appears? I mean on the one hand it seems a little far-fetched, on the other hand that guy CHEWED THE FACE OFF another person

Yeah I am not a "drugs are the evul" type of guy but this sounds like some really bad shiat.


i did it and it made me realize that my whole life i was supposed to be a re-incarnation of Jesus. but I was evil and not perfect. therefore my 13 "apostles" were gonna come and hammer a nail into my dick
 
2012-06-04 11:24:31 AM  
"It's PCP on crack."

Best quote ever. This drug is on drugs.
 
2012-06-04 11:26:11 AM  
I foolishly went looking for the photos from the incident. I'm in need of some eye bleach.
 
2012-06-04 11:26:14 AM  

BigLuca: I wish they would stop calling it "bath salts." They aren't bath salts, that is just how they are marketed to get around labeling laws. It's like calling a bong a "tobacco water pipe." They are synthetic psychoactive designer chemicals, or "research chemicals", the most popular right now being MDPV, but there are a ton of others. Most of these are technically illegal under the Federal Analogues Act (some aren't), but that law is a little more difficult to enforce and use for prosecution.


Hence why "bath salts" are in quotation marks.

For a while they were calling it "spice". The sci-fi geek in me thought the Dune/Star Wars reference was interesting, but I was kind of glad to see that name pass by.

"Bath salts" is the common, street name of the stuff. If you say "MDPV", nobody will know what the fark you're talking about.

Of course, I do wonder what it would do to you if you actually dissolved it in a bath and tried to use it as "bath salts". If it farked you up, you could probably sue the makers out of existence. They are probably clinging to a fig leaf of "They aren't using it as directed."
 
2012-06-04 11:26:19 AM  

Headso: The funniest part about the bath salts coming out of florida is that they are a zero tolerance state for pot.


how is that funny? MDPV is illegal. so whatever's in there is not MDPV. if they bought it locally that is.
cause you can't get it shipped to FL by anyone.
 
2012-06-04 11:26:37 AM  
Bath salts won't cause you to eat the face of everyone you meet, but they have been shown to have been a contributing cause in at least one case of making a poor choice.

Delaware became the first state to outlaw them permanently in January of this year. In spite of the law and some really harsh penalties, there are any number of convenience stores which are still getting busted for offering them for sale.
 
2012-06-04 11:29:13 AM  
Hey. You got face in my peanut butter.
 
2012-06-04 11:29:50 AM  
FTFA; "It's like PCP on crack"

You'd have to be on drugs to come up with an analogy like that.
 
2012-06-04 11:32:10 AM  

fred_chan: I haven't been following this story closely; have they actually determined that the guy who ate the other guy's face was actually on bath salts or is that still speculation at this point?


The tox screen results are not in yet, AFAIK. I was guessing PCP + untreated mental illness for face eating dude. Although Bath Salts are pretty freakin' horrible - there was one guy who took his hunting knife and sliced up his own face and stomach on them.
 
2012-06-04 11:32:38 AM  

Magorn: That's kinda what I'm trying to fiigure out about these "bath salt zombie" stories: Nothing more than the DEA/ONDCP usual BS scare tactics? Or is this stuff really as scary as it appears? I mean on the one hand it seems a little far-fetched, on the other hand that guy CHEWED THE FACE OFF another person


Again, here's basically how bath salts are made:

Step 1: find an actual drug (usually an amphetamine-- this is where the "bath salts" name comes from, mild uppers used to be used in the literal chemicals you'd put in your bath to make it smell nice)

Step 2: Examine molecule, examine legal definition of drugs, focusing on chemical descriptions.

Step 3: Change a few functional groups on molecule until it no longer fits the legal definition of the controlled substance in question. (Alternate: you can refunctionalize at random with certain chemical processes)

Step 4: Make that instead.

The upside: whatever you just made isn't illegal. The downside: 99% of the time, you honestly don't know quite what you just made in terms of effects and side-effects. You may have rendered it completely inert, you may have turned it from a drug to a poison. More subtle stuff like emotional alteration and neurological effects can't really be tested by feeding it to the dog, so you really won't entirely know until a consumer tries it.
 
2012-06-04 11:33:19 AM  
"It's PCP on crack."

static.pplaylist.com
 
2012-06-04 11:33:20 AM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: So the Bath Salts can make you eat faces and have gnarly, foaming hallucinations. Where's the good part? What's the payoff for the people who use and enjoy the Bath Salts?


I wonder the same. As I did when I was younger and learned about PCP.

I don't know any stories with good endings that start with "So I was wasted on PCP/'Bath Salts'......"
 
2012-06-04 11:33:44 AM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: So, dial me in here, folks. I get liquor, I've felt all smooth & mellow, plus uninhibited and then the barfing my guts out part. I know the Reefer can make one paranoid with too much of it, and yet it's X-tremely popular because of the relaxation and all. So the Bath Salts can make you eat faces and have gnarly, foaming hallucinations. Where's the good part?


And I'm wondering the same about crack and meth and all that other shiat trash is ingesting, and I just don't see the farking appeal. Grass and shiat, I can see. E, I can see. Coke, I can see. Booze and beer, hell yeah. Even LSD, I can somewhat see. But all that nasty, chemical, body and soul destroying shiat? Why?
 
2012-06-04 11:34:43 AM  

MAYORBOB: Amidst all the blather about "dangerous drugs" and people's right to do what they want to their own body, there is one incontrovertible truth -- bath salts is a dangerous drug.


Agreed. So lets ban them, and legalize pot.
 
2012-06-04 11:35:11 AM  
This article reminds me I need to buy another box or two of .45 acp.

Seriously though, that's a scary drug. Not quite krokodil, but Nasty.
 
2012-06-04 11:35:25 AM  

GWLush: Magorn: signaljammer: Nobody would touch that crap if deemer, mushies, buttons and 'cid were legal, as they certainly should be. I cannot wait for this tool's fifteen minutes are up.

That's kinda what I'm trying to fiigure out about these "bath salt zombie" stories: Nothing more than the DEA/ONDCP usual BS scare tactics? Or is this stuff really as scary as it appears? I mean on the one hand it seems a little far-fetched, on the other hand that guy CHEWED THE FACE OFF another person

Yeah I am not a "drugs are the evul" type of guy but this sounds like some really bad shiat.


I don't know first hand but the "oh my god won't somebody think of the children" crowd is batting .000 on telling the truth about drugs so I am going to assume that the underlying cause of these guys problems is something other than their intoxicant of choice.
 
2012-06-04 11:35:46 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: fred_chan: I haven't been following this story closely; have they actually determined that the guy who ate the other guy's face was actually on bath salts or is that still speculation at this point?

3 hits of LSD was what the guy told them.
however everyone knows LSD = 60's and everyone loves The Beatles


Police interview via Ouija board?
 
2012-06-04 11:36:16 AM  

namegoeshere: fred_chan: I haven't been following this story closely; have they actually determined that the guy who ate the other guy's face was actually on bath salts or is that still speculation at this point?

The tox screen results are not in yet, AFAIK. I was guessing PCP + untreated mental illness for face eating dude. Although Bath Salts are pretty freakin' horrible - there was one guy who took his hunting knife and sliced up his own face and stomach on them.


Was that the guy from Jersey? The one who cut out his own intenstine and threw it at the cops?
 
2012-06-04 11:36:20 AM  

Silverstaff: BigLuca: I wish they would stop calling it "bath salts." They aren't bath salts, that is just how they are marketed to get around labeling laws. It's like calling a bong a "tobacco water pipe." They are synthetic psychoactive designer chemicals, or "research chemicals", the most popular right now being MDPV, but there are a ton of others. Most of these are technically illegal under the Federal Analogues Act (some aren't), but that law is a little more difficult to enforce and use for prosecution.

Hence why "bath salts" are in quotation marks.

For a while they were calling it "spice". The sci-fi geek in me thought the Dune/Star Wars reference was interesting, but I was kind of glad to see that name pass by.

"Bath salts" is the common, street name of the stuff. If you say "MDPV", nobody will know what the fark you're talking about.

Of course, I do wonder what it would do to you if you actually dissolved it in a bath and tried to use it as "bath salts". If it farked you up, you could probably sue the makers out of existence. They are probably clinging to a fig leaf of "They aren't using it as directed."


I don't think "bath salts" is the common street name for the stuff, though. It's the common media name, and suburb housewife name. People that use the stuff call it MDPV, or mephedrone, or whatever it is.
 
2012-06-04 11:36:22 AM  

Silverstaff: Of course, I do wonder what it would do to you if you actually dissolved it in a bath and tried to use it as "bath salts". If it farked you up, you could probably sue the makers out of existence. They are probably clinging to a fig leaf of "They aren't using it as directed."


What's funnier I think is that I'm sure there's a dumb fark out there who tried to snort/smoke/inject real bath salts...
 
2012-06-04 11:37:33 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Magorn: That's kinda what I'm trying to fiigure out about these "bath salt zombie" stories: Nothing more than the DEA/ONDCP usual BS scare tactics? Or is this stuff really as scary as it appears? I mean on the one hand it seems a little far-fetched, on the other hand that guy CHEWED THE FACE OFF another person

Again, here's basically how bath salts are made:

Step 1: find an actual drug (usually an amphetamine-- this is where the "bath salts" name comes from, mild uppers used to be used in the literal chemicals you'd put in your bath to make it smell nice)

Step 2: Examine molecule, examine legal definition of drugs, focusing on chemical descriptions.

Step 3: Change a few functional groups on molecule until it no longer fits the legal definition of the controlled substance in question. (Alternate: you can refunctionalize at random with certain chemical processes)

Step 4: Make that instead.

The upside: whatever you just made isn't illegal. The downside: 99% of the time, you honestly don't know quite what you just made in terms of effects and side-effects. You may have rendered it completely inert, you may have turned it from a drug to a poison. More subtle stuff like emotional alteration and neurological effects can't really be tested by feeding it to the dog, so you really won't entirely know until a consumer tries it.


Enter MPTP, and the Case of the Frozen Addicts.

They altered something which ended up attacking the substantia nigra, and rendered the users with chemically induced Parkinson's.
 
2012-06-04 11:38:07 AM  
Is cannabis legal yet?
 
2012-06-04 11:39:14 AM  
He said he was hallucinating about being in a mental hospital and being possessed by Jason Voorhees, the character from the "Friday the 13th" movies.

So it wasn't video games?!?!?!
 
2012-06-04 11:40:20 AM  
Its was my understanding that 'bath salts' are a poor mans stimulant, but the danger comes from the fact that there is no general dosage guidelines and repeated dosing. So, you snort a 'line' whatever that comprises of (since we're not sure what the 'proper' dosage is yet), feel the euphoric effects, come down feels rather shiatty (similar to X come down I think), snort another line to regain that 'pep', feel twitchy, lose sleep, snort another line to wake up, etc etc, next thing you know 5 days have passed and you haven't slept or ate, thus the paranoia/psychosis is a result of extreme dehydration/sleep deprivation.

so, I think its just regular 'ol amphetamine psychosis? Maybe with the added impervious to pain side effect of PCP?
 
2012-06-04 11:40:25 AM  

BigLuca: Silverstaff: BigLuca: I wish they would stop calling it "bath salts." They aren't bath salts, that is just how they are marketed to get around labeling laws. It's like calling a bong a "tobacco water pipe." They are synthetic psychoactive designer chemicals, or "research chemicals", the most popular right now being MDPV, but there are a ton of others. Most of these are technically illegal under the Federal Analogues Act (some aren't), but that law is a little more difficult to enforce and use for prosecution.

Hence why "bath salts" are in quotation marks.

For a while they were calling it "spice". The sci-fi geek in me thought the Dune/Star Wars reference was interesting, but I was kind of glad to see that name pass by.

"Bath salts" is the common, street name of the stuff. If you say "MDPV", nobody will know what the fark you're talking about.

Of course, I do wonder what it would do to you if you actually dissolved it in a bath and tried to use it as "bath salts". If it farked you up, you could probably sue the makers out of existence. They are probably clinging to a fig leaf of "They aren't using it as directed."

I don't think "bath salts" is the common street name for the stuff, though. It's the common media name, and suburb housewife name. People that use the stuff call it MDPV, or mephedrone, or whatever it is.


It's NOT mephedrone it's a new chemical they won't talk about. that stuff has already been banned.
and mephedrone was fun. but when they mixed it with MDPV the problems arose.
 
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