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2012-06-04 09:41:18 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: James_Corn: "wrong wrong wrong wrong. wrong wrong wrong wrong!"

Oh so the woman you are married to has sex with another person, doesn't let you join and leaves you for this other person isn't cheating as long as it's another woman? Ah ok, I gotcha.


I used to think that I'd be OK with my wife having a fling with another woman..until a couple of her co-workers' wives left them for other women they met on the internet. That's the part guys who think that way don't think will happen..but it does sometimes. Plus, consider the factor that you're bringing another woman's bullshiat into your life and that usually puts that fire out pretty quick.
 
2012-06-04 09:44:57 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Men cheat, women have affairs.

So if a woman thinks she falls in love, it's perfectly alright to commence the affair. Because she had emotional needs hat were being met.


Welcome to my favourites.
 
2012-06-04 09:46:02 AM  
How do people even have time for an affair? Don't you have hobbies? besides being a whore of course.
 
2012-06-04 09:52:25 AM  

bucket_chemist: You've obviously met my ex.


Or maybe mine.
 
2012-06-04 09:55:54 AM  
I've always wondered about people who get involved with someone who is married and then take up with them after they leave their spouse, or more likely get caught and get tossed out by their spouse.

You figure..they were cheating on someone else to be with you..what makes you think they won't cheat on you?
 
2012-06-04 10:11:47 AM  

James_Corn: sounds like a woman switched teams after being with you. That would suck. Did she let you watch or do it behind your back? At this point, for me, I'd just be thrilled knowing that my wife has any sort of pulse between her legs. If not for me, just for her own sake.


Ha, I like how you insult me then mention your wife won't f*ck you
 
2012-06-04 10:13:30 AM  

zappaisfrank: I used to think that I'd be OK with my wife having a fling with another woman..until a couple of her co-workers' wives left them for other women they met on the internet. That's the part guys who think that way don't think will happen..but it does sometimes. Plus, consider the factor that you're bringing another woman's bullshiat into your life and that usually puts that fire out pretty quick.


My one friend got a surprise for his birthday from his wife in the form of another woman. They divorced shortly after. I know another guy while I was stationed in Germany, he was married to this gorgeous German woman. While in Kosovo he got the news that she was leaving him for another woman. Everyone thought that was great until he had to remind them that she said leaving him, not letting him join in.
 
2012-06-04 10:28:29 AM  

Swingbaby: steamingpile: illannoyin: NSFW Link



/Works for us
//It's not for everyone

It's still cheating, swinging was created by men but after women realized they can fark all the men they wanted and turn the terms men used to get them there against the man.

I also love the argument where people say humans are just animals and weren't meant to be monogamous, well in the natural animal world males have multiple mates and if another male dares approach they attack. I have watched enough nature shows on walruses to know that fact.......

Calling it swinging is just a term used by the person who lets their mate dictate their sexual status.

Um, sorry. No.

It is not cheating. My wife and I have a fantastic marriage, we are very much in love after 14 years together. Swinging is swinging, not cheating. Cheating involves someone being swindled, fooled, deceived, or other such nastiness.

We swing together, have a fun time with some fun people who we enjoy the company of together, go home together, and continue to love each other. It is a purely physical variation to our sex life, akin to using sexual aides and toys or dress up but with other people. Maybe we are in the minority, but swinging has made our marital relationship even better than it was before we started swinging 3 years ago.

/so stick it, prude
//csb


No you're just a sucker who doesn't or refuses to realize he's getting played or maybe you enjoy being a cuckold.

Either way I'm not a prude, I'm a realist, there is a reason why men need a woman to get into those clubs.
 
2012-06-04 10:31:18 AM  
It's not cheating if you are out of the country.
 
2012-06-04 10:33:32 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: zappaisfrank: I used to think that I'd be OK with my wife having a fling with another woman..until a couple of her co-workers' wives left them for other women they met on the internet. That's the part guys who think that way don't think will happen..but it does sometimes. Plus, consider the factor that you're bringing another woman's bullshiat into your life and that usually puts that fire out pretty quick.

My one friend got a surprise for his birthday from his wife in the form of another woman. They divorced shortly after. I know another guy while I was stationed in Germany, he was married to this gorgeous German woman. While in Kosovo he got the news that she was leaving him for another woman. Everyone thought that was great until he had to remind them that she said leaving him, not letting him join in.


The devil is in the details, isn't it?
 
2012-06-04 10:36:40 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: James_Corn: sounds like a woman switched teams after being with you. That would suck. Did she let you watch or do it behind your back? At this point, for me, I'd just be thrilled knowing that my wife has any sort of pulse between her legs. If not for me, just for her own sake.

Ha, I like how you insult me then mention your wife won't f*ck you


I like that too! You want some more? hehe

/wasn't insulting you. I was simply sharing my feelings/opening up to you. I guess at this point [see above] her leaving wouldn't anger me. Did your wife satisfy you in general before she left? Were you getting what you needed? I would imagine it didn't just happend out of the blue, but may be mistaken.
 
2012-06-04 10:41:54 AM  

steamingpile: Swingbaby: steamingpile: illannoyin: NSFW Link



/Works for us
//It's not for everyone

It's still cheating, swinging was created by men but after women realized they can fark all the men they wanted and turn the terms men used to get them there against the man.

I also love the argument where people say humans are just animals and weren't meant to be monogamous, well in the natural animal world males have multiple mates and if another male dares approach they attack. I have watched enough nature shows on walruses to know that fact.......

Calling it swinging is just a term used by the person who lets their mate dictate their sexual status.

Um, sorry. No.

It is not cheating. My wife and I have a fantastic marriage, we are very much in love after 14 years together. Swinging is swinging, not cheating. Cheating involves someone being swindled, fooled, deceived, or other such nastiness.

We swing together, have a fun time with some fun people who we enjoy the company of together, go home together, and continue to love each other. It is a purely physical variation to our sex life, akin to using sexual aides and toys or dress up but with other people. Maybe we are in the minority, but swinging has made our marital relationship even better than it was before we started swinging 3 years ago.

/so stick it, prude
//csb

No you're just a sucker who doesn't or refuses to realize he's getting played or maybe you enjoy being a cuckold.

Either way I'm not a prude, I'm a realist, there is a reason why men need a woman to get into those clubs.


I wouldn't call swingers suckers. I'm sure there are variations, but it seems like they're secure in their relationship to me. Or maybe the guy is corksure enough to handle it. To each his own, really. I'm sure some people lash out at swingers because they wish they could do that but aren't as secure. I'm also sure most swingers have a pretty good time swinging. and stuff.
 
2012-06-04 10:43:46 AM  
I had a very interesting thing that happened a few years ago. My neighbor, who was a very attractive African American woman (mentioned because I thought the cultural background was interesting in context of the story) with two nice young kids came over and knocked on our door and said without the least hint of embarrassment,"You'll probably see a police car at our house sometime over the next couple of days. Don't be alarmed, but my husband is a criminal. He is guilty of the crime of adultery and I have arranged for the police to explain to him that it is a crime and will not be tolerated." I have no idea how she pulled that one off but they were still together last I heard.

As for me, I've been married 28 years...never cheated, never really considered it. Probably have had no more than a couple reasonable chances...one was a college woman who worked for me and came into my office when we were working late and confessed her insatiable sluttiness to me and told me that she just couldn't refuse anything. She was quite the little cutie and everything, but not only am I pretty serious about the whole marriage vow thing...but I also go to church with her parents. Would make for an awkward communion.

Far as marriage and the old push pull goes, there are better times and there are worse, but that's how most things go and in the end it evens out. Don't get too discouraged if you hit a rough spot. Leave the kids with the grandparents, take your spouse to a nice all inclusive and hump and drink for a couple of days. Does wonders. The secret I can share is that if you don't look for trouble you are less likely to find it. It also helps to be frumpy.
 
2012-06-04 10:47:41 AM  

James_Corn: I like that too! You want some more? hehe

/wasn't insulting you. I was simply sharing my feelings/opening up to you. I guess at this point [see above] her leaving wouldn't anger me. Did your wife satisfy you in general before she left? Were you getting what you needed? I would imagine it didn't just happend out of the blue, but may be mistaken.


Oh I've never been married or have a girlfriend go lesbian. I just think it's retarded that guys are so obsessed with attractive lesbians that they're willing to let their wives cheat as long as it's with a woman.
 
2012-06-04 10:52:10 AM  
Are hookers considered cheating? Because I have this friend and I um was just wondering, um about my friend.
 
2012-06-04 10:54:45 AM  

James_Corn: steamingpile: Swingbaby: steamingpile: illannoyin: NSFW Link



/Works for us
//It's not for everyone

It's still cheating, swinging was created by men but after women realized they can fark all the men they wanted and turn the terms men used to get them there against the man.

I also love the argument where people say humans are just animals and weren't meant to be monogamous, well in the natural animal world males have multiple mates and if another male dares approach they attack. I have watched enough nature shows on walruses to know that fact.......

Calling it swinging is just a term used by the person who lets their mate dictate their sexual status.

Um, sorry. No.

It is not cheating. My wife and I have a fantastic marriage, we are very much in love after 14 years together. Swinging is swinging, not cheating. Cheating involves someone being swindled, fooled, deceived, or other such nastiness.

We swing together, have a fun time with some fun people who we enjoy the company of together, go home together, and continue to love each other. It is a purely physical variation to our sex life, akin to using sexual aides and toys or dress up but with other people. Maybe we are in the minority, but swinging has made our marital relationship even better than it was before we started swinging 3 years ago.

/so stick it, prude
//csb

No you're just a sucker who doesn't or refuses to realize he's getting played or maybe you enjoy being a cuckold.

Either way I'm not a prude, I'm a realist, there is a reason why men need a woman to get into those clubs.

I wouldn't call swingers suckers. I'm sure there are variations, but it seems like they're secure in their relationship to me. Or maybe the guy is corksure enough to handle it. To each his own, really. I'm sure some people lash out at swingers because they wish they could do that but aren't as secure. I'm also sure most swingers have a pretty good time swinging. and stuff.


At one of my former places of employment, there was a woman who worked there who was a "swinger" and was after me big time! She was a major drunk also, and when she was bombed, she'd be all over me and most of the time it was right in front of her husband. Meeting her on the sly would have been one thing but involving the hubby in the proceedings was more than I was able to deal with. She creeped me out in other ways, too. She couldn't have kids and it farked her head up big time. Mostly it was the drunk thing, because when she was drunk she was nasty in other ways. Weird thing was that when she was sober, it was totally different and she never acknowledged the sexual overtures she would put on me when she was drunk. It was almost as if she didn't remember them!

In the years after I left that job, I heard that she tried to kill herself twice and eventually died from some sort of health issue, possibly related to drinking. I sooooo glad I stayed out of that mess.
 
2012-06-04 10:54:57 AM  

harrydorcas: Now that should not be surprising. There is a study however that men are ok with women cheating as long as it is with another woman. You know, girl on girl action?


That's what I told my wife, back when we were just 18 and starting a relationship. I also told her if she ever cheated on me with a guy, I'd sure hate spending the rest of my life in prison.

In actuality, if she did seek the strange dong, I'd probably just wither up and die anyway...
 
2012-06-04 10:57:18 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: harrydorcas: Now that should not be surprising. There is a study however that men are ok with women cheating as long as it is with another woman. You know, girl on girl action?

Real life men and not internet dorks, consider that cheating.


Once several years ago, I kissed a girlfriend at a bar. A pair of guys were hitting on us while we were waiting for our drinks, so we jokingly told them we were "together". We were drunk and couldn't resist when they asked us to prove it. Anyway, both of our husbands were at a nearby table. Mine saw the kiss(which was pretty hot) and was furious. Funny, but before I'd realized he'd seen us, I remember thinking how much of a turn on it would have been for him. Turns out, not so much.
 
2012-06-04 11:00:31 AM  

Lagaidh: harrydorcas: Now that should not be surprising. There is a study however that men are ok with women cheating as long as it is with another woman. You know, girl on girl action?

That's what I told my wife, back when we were just 18 and starting a relationship. I also told her if she ever cheated on me with a guy, I'd sure hate spending the rest of my life in prison.

In actuality, if she did seek the strange dong, I'd probably just wither up and die anyway...


I have never understood why guys get so pissed off and want to kill the guy their wives had an affair with. Is it really up to John Q. Strangedick to make sure their wife stays faithful? That's your job, pal.

If your wife is setting it out for another guy, she's the slut, not the guy taking advantage of the free ass.
 
2012-06-04 11:00:35 AM  

smokeysmokerton: Once several years ago, I kissed a girlfriend at a bar. A pair of guys were hitting on us while we were waiting for our drinks, so we jokingly told them we were "together". We were drunk and couldn't resist when they asked us to prove it. Anyway, both of our husbands were at a nearby table. Mine saw the kiss(which was pretty hot) and was furious. Funny, but before I'd realized he'd seen us, I remember thinking how much of a turn on it would have been for him. Turns out, not so much.


Not too mention you did it for some stranger, no wonder.
 
2012-06-04 11:02:30 AM  
Single men cheat more than single woman. Married women cheat more than married men.
 
2012-06-04 11:03:19 AM  

zappaisfrank:

At one of my former places of employment, there was a woman who worked there who was a "swinger" and was after me big time! She was a major drunk also, and when she was bombed, she'd be all over me and most of the time it was right in front of her husband. Meeting her on the sly would have been one thing but involving the hubby in the proceedings was more than I was able to deal with. She creeped me out in other ways, too. She couldn't have kids and it farked her head up big time. Mostly it was the drunk thing, because when she was drunk she was nasty in other ways. Weird thing was that when she was sober, it was totally different and she never acknowledged the sexual overtures she would put on me when she was drunk. It was almost as if she didn't remember them!

In the years after I left that job, I heard that she tried to kill herself twice and eventually died from some sort of health issue, possibly related to drinking. I sooooo glad I stayed out of that mess.


yikes! yeah nice play staying out of that one. Can't remember who to credit it to, but one of my fav sayings is "you don't stick your d*ck in crazy"
 
2012-06-04 11:07:40 AM  

smokeysmokerton: Tat'dGreaser: harrydorcas: Now that should not be surprising. There is a study however that men are ok with women cheating as long as it is with another woman. You know, girl on girl action?

Real life men and not internet dorks, consider that cheating.

Once several years ago, I kissed a girlfriend at a bar. A pair of guys were hitting on us while we were waiting for our drinks, so we jokingly told them we were "together". We were drunk and couldn't resist when they asked us to prove it. Anyway, both of our husbands were at a nearby table. Mine saw the kiss(which was pretty hot) and was furious. Funny, but before I'd realized he'd seen us, I remember thinking how much of a turn on it would have been for him. Turns out, not so much.


man. that's a shame. I'd think it was awesome.
 
2012-06-04 11:08:35 AM  

James_Corn: steamingpile: Swingbaby: steamingpile: illannoyin: NSFW Link



/Works for us
//It's not for everyone

It's still cheating, swinging was created by men but after women realized they can fark all the men they wanted and turn the terms men used to get them there against the man.

I also love the argument where people say humans are just animals and weren't meant to be monogamous, well in the natural animal world males have multiple mates and if another male dares approach they attack. I have watched enough nature shows on walruses to know that fact.......

Calling it swinging is just a term used by the person who lets their mate dictate their sexual status.

Um, sorry. No.

It is not cheating. My wife and I have a fantastic marriage, we are very much in love after 14 years together. Swinging is swinging, not cheating. Cheating involves someone being swindled, fooled, deceived, or other such nastiness.

We swing together, have a fun time with some fun people who we enjoy the company of together, go home together, and continue to love each other. It is a purely physical variation to our sex life, akin to using sexual aides and toys or dress up but with other people. Maybe we are in the minority, but swinging has made our marital relationship even better than it was before we started swinging 3 years ago.

/so stick it, prude
//csb

No you're just a sucker who doesn't or refuses to realize he's getting played or maybe you enjoy being a cuckold.

Either way I'm not a prude, I'm a realist, there is a reason why men need a woman to get into those clubs.

I wouldn't call swingers suckers. I'm sure there are variations, but it seems like they're secure in their relationship to me. Or maybe the guy is corksure enough to handle it. To each his own, really. I'm sure some people lash out at swingers because they wish they could do that but aren't as secure. I'm also sure most swingers have a pretty good time swinging. and stuff.


Nah I'm happy with my relationship and have no desire to let my wife be a whore and she has no desire to be just a fark toy. I had a buddy who was in that lifestyle and after a while he got tired of being the 3rd wheel while everyone else farked his wife while he sat there.
 
2012-06-04 11:09:24 AM  

taurusowner: I think cheating is any role or function that should be fulfilled by your partner, but you are doing it with someone else.


unless i get a sugar daddy. then I'm pretty sure my partner would be okay with someone else paying all my bills.
 
2012-06-04 11:13:20 AM  

Gulper Eel: AverageAmericanGuy: But yes, put me down for a "well, maybe" if I came home from work to find that Kate Winslet was stretched out languidly in my bed saying "Take me now, my rampant stallion, and then after our epic thrash through the percales you can have a nap while I expertly remove any trace of my having been here before GTFOing".


Every partnership should have a "not cheating if..." list. If Alyssa Milano begs my man for some playtime, he is not cheating. Likewise for me and Ken Griffey Jr.
 
2012-06-04 11:16:33 AM  

James_Corn: zappaisfrank:

At one of my former places of employment, there was a woman who worked there who was a "swinger" and was after me big time! She was a major drunk also, and when she was bombed, she'd be all over me and most of the time it was right in front of her husband. Meeting her on the sly would have been one thing but involving the hubby in the proceedings was more than I was able to deal with. She creeped me out in other ways, too. She couldn't have kids and it farked her head up big time. Mostly it was the drunk thing, because when she was drunk she was nasty in other ways. Weird thing was that when she was sober, it was totally different and she never acknowledged the sexual overtures she would put on me when she was drunk. It was almost as if she didn't remember them!

In the years after I left that job, I heard that she tried to kill herself twice and eventually died from some sort of health issue, possibly related to drinking. I sooooo glad I stayed out of that mess.

yikes! yeah nice play staying out of that one. Can't remember who to credit it to, but one of my fav sayings is "you don't stick your d*ck in crazy"


She totally fit that bill. She wasn't that attractive so no loss there, plus her husband was weird as well. Whenever she was coming on to me, he'd be lurking in the background somewhere, really quietly, watching to see what happened next. I just wasn't into banging her with him hanging around while I do it. That would have been a major boner killer. She backed me into a bathroom once, was rubbing her boobs all down the front of me saying how "she'd been married a looong..time.." while my girlfriend was a room away. It was totally creepy. I'd heard from someone else that her stomach was covered with scars from operations she'd had related to her inability to have kids. The whole thing was just too weird and unappealing. I didn't need to get laid THAT bad.
 
2012-06-04 11:17:05 AM  

bbcard1: It also helps to be frumpy.


Oh, good. I've got that part down.
 
2012-06-04 11:18:18 AM  

jfbnr24: Gulper Eel: AverageAmericanGuy: But yes, put me down for a "well, maybe" if I came home from work to find that Kate Winslet was stretched out languidly in my bed saying "Take me now, my rampant stallion, and then after our epic thrash through the percales you can have a nap while I expertly remove any trace of my having been here before GTFOing".

Every partnership should have a "not cheating if..." list. If Alyssa Milano begs my man for some playtime, he is not cheating. Likewise for me and Ken Griffey Jr.


We have that..for me it's Jennifer Aniston, for the wife, Sly Stallone.
 
2012-06-04 11:24:47 AM  

jfbnr24: Likewise for me and Ken Griffey Jr.


I wouldn't bother. He's only going to get hurt halfway through.
 
2012-06-04 11:32:17 AM  

James_Corn: steamingpile: Swingbaby: steamingpile: illannoyin: NSFW Link



/Works for us
//It's not for everyone

It's still cheating, swinging was created by men but after women realized they can fark all the men they wanted and turn the terms men used to get them there against the man.

I also love the argument where people say humans are just animals and weren't meant to be monogamous, well in the natural animal world males have multiple mates and if another male dares approach they attack. I have watched enough nature shows on walruses to know that fact.......

Calling it swinging is just a term used by the person who lets their mate dictate their sexual status.

Um, sorry. No.

It is not cheating. My wife and I have a fantastic marriage, we are very much in love after 14 years together. Swinging is swinging, not cheating. Cheating involves someone being swindled, fooled, deceived, or other such nastiness.

We swing together, have a fun time with some fun people who we enjoy the company of together, go home together, and continue to love each other. It is a purely physical variation to our sex life, akin to using sexual aides and toys or dress up but with other people. Maybe we are in the minority, but swinging has made our marital relationship even better than it was before we started swinging 3 years ago.

/so stick it, prude
//csb

No you're just a sucker who doesn't or refuses to realize he's getting played or maybe you enjoy being a cuckold.

Either way I'm not a prude, I'm a realist, there is a reason why men need a woman to get into those clubs.

I wouldn't call swingers suckers. I'm sure there are variations, but it seems like they're secure in their relationship to me. Or maybe the guy is corksure enough to handle it. To each his own, really. I'm sure some people lash out at swingers because they wish they could do that but aren't as secure. I'm also sure most swingers have a pretty good time swinging. and stuff.


My boyfried was dying to take me to a swingers' club, and we've been to two (New Orleans, Atlanta) just to watch (not kidding). Both times he was so freaked out by the situation that he wasn't interested in play time AT ALL. He said that he guessed it just wasn't as freaky if he had permission.

//CSB
 
2012-06-04 11:33:04 AM  

zzrhardy: A women can be still living with you and be farking someone else without cheating.

This is because for the women, the relationship with you was already over. They were just waiting on a better offer before moving on.

Women don't like downtime. They will stay in an "over" relationship without telling the guy because it beats being alone for them.

emotional/monetary support etc.


Another for my favourites list!
 
2012-06-04 12:24:59 PM  

zappaisfrank: Men cheat because they're pigs who can't keep their thingie in their pants.

Women cheat because the men in their life aren't giving them what they need so they have to find it elsewhere.

Synopsis-Men cheat because they're pigs and women cheat because men are pigs.


1/10
 
2012-06-04 12:28:40 PM  

Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?


You obviously are not familiar with the obscure charms of Craigslist's M4M section...
 
2012-06-04 12:56:34 PM  
The stats say men cheat more than woman only because many women think sucking a dick doesn't count as sex.
 
2012-06-04 01:02:09 PM  

Two16: zappaisfrank: Men cheat because they're pigs who can't keep their thingie in their pants.

Women cheat because the men in their life aren't giving them what they need so they have to find it elsewhere.

Synopsis-Men cheat because they're pigs and women cheat because men are pigs.

1/10


How is it a troll when its pretty much correct? The one girl who cheated on me actually tried to get me to believe it was because I wasn't giving enough emotionally. I was right in assuming she just wanted more dick since the next guy she farked over as well, now she's on marriage number 3 and I can just thank God I found out about her before getting married.
 
2012-06-04 01:17:22 PM  

steamingpile: Two16: zappaisfrank: Men cheat because they're pigs who can't keep their thingie in their pants.

Women cheat because the men in their life aren't giving them what they need so they have to find it elsewhere.

Synopsis-Men cheat because they're pigs and women cheat because men are pigs.

1/10

How is it a troll when its pretty much correct? The one girl who cheated on me actually tried to get me to believe it was because I wasn't giving enough emotionally. I was right in assuming she just wanted more dick since the next guy she farked over as well, now she's on marriage number 3 and I can just thank God I found out about her before getting married.


you just made my brain hurt.
 
2012-06-04 02:21:52 PM  

James_Corn: zappaisfrank:

Word. As I am fond of saying "A man who is fed well at home has no need for restaurants".

exactly. no man will cheat if he's getting what he needs at home. it's that simple. really.


I think you're a bit naive about the subset of men who are just born to cheat. (They seem to overlap strongly with sociopaths.) I've known quite a few who seem to see nothing wrong with plowing their wife, dallying with their secretary or accountant, and then demanding a BJ at home after dinner. Some even go so far as to say that they don't want their wife despite her trying to put out. They'll generally brag about it after a bit of ice breaking, at least to one of the boys, because it's all a game to them. Funny thing is, most of them seem to be running their own small business or departments, as well, and tend to hire women who specifically meet their physical criteria.

To the women, they almost always say that they're separated and divorcing, or if she finds out, then they're sleeping in separate beds or rooms at home until one of them finds a place. Ladies, if you ever hear this story, you're being played for a fool, and I guess that applies to men talking to married women too.

Being a contractor/consultant means having to listen to LOTS of gossip and drama because people know you won't be around long enough to matter.

James_Corn: you just made my brain hurt.


steamingpile was ignored for a while when I just couldn't take his rampant generalizations based on a single event that may have happened to him or a friend. The bitterness overwhelmed some threads.
 
2012-06-04 02:41:01 PM  

foxyshadis: James_Corn: zappaisfrank:

Word. As I am fond of saying "A man who is fed well at home has no need for restaurants".

exactly. no man will cheat if he's getting what he needs at home. it's that simple. really.

I think you're a bit naive about the subset of men who are just born to cheat. (They seem to overlap strongly with sociopaths.) I've known quite a few who seem to see nothing wrong with plowing their wife, dallying with their secretary or accountant, and then demanding a BJ at home after dinner. Some even go so far as to say that they don't want their wife despite her trying to put out. They'll generally brag about it after a bit of ice breaking, at least to one of the boys, because it's all a game to them. Funny thing is, most of them seem to be running their own small business or departments, as well, and tend to hire women who specifically meet their physical criteria.

To the women, they almost always say that they're separated and divorcing, or if she finds out, then they're sleeping in separate beds or rooms at home until one of them finds a place. Ladies, if you ever hear this story, you're being played for a fool, and I guess that applies to men talking to married women too.

Being a contractor/consultant means having to listen to LOTS of gossip and drama because people know you won't be around long enough to matter.

point taken, some probably go outside my statement's logic (although they're still not getting what they need at home, but not in the sense I was talking about heheh) lets change it to "if a woman doesn't give a man the intimacy he craves from her, then she shouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere for it" She should know what he craves if she is his wife, and oblige him. If she is not willing to oblige him, she shouldn't be married to him. If she is the only one in the world he is permitted to touch, except she's frigid, well that sucks.

James_Corn: you just made my brain hurt.

steamingpile was ignored for a while when I just couldn't take his rampant generalizations based on a single event that may have happened to him or a friend. The bitterness overwhelmed some threads.


made my brain hurt because he was arguing about something that was completely the opposite of what he was arguing.
 
2012-06-04 03:01:10 PM  

Gulper Eel: jfbnr24: Likewise for me and Ken Griffey Jr.

I wouldn't bother. He's only going to get hurt halfway through.


favorited!
 
2012-06-04 03:17:41 PM  

Brick-House: Are hookers considered cheating? Because I have this friend and I um was just wondering, um about my friend.


It's written into the U.S. constitution that hookers and homeless do not, repeat not, count for purposes of cheating or murder. So, go crazy.
 
2012-06-04 04:17:21 PM  
You mean at cards or something? Because I had that ace up my sleeve for something totally unrelated to our poker game.
 
2012-06-04 09:03:47 PM  
I call bullshiat like polls are bullshiat, man.

Gimme a break.

Who owns the purse?
 
2012-06-04 10:48:48 PM  

James_Corn: Julie Cochrane: James_Corn: totally dirty sluts

Smile when you say that, pahdner. ;-)

oh I was. hehe fond memories of that part. Now, not so much.

/has two awesome little girls at home. don't want to leave them. sex with wife is garbage or non existent, after the best sex in history was had early on. Patience has worn out with that. Backed up as all get out, and could pick up a woman at a bar easier. Do I stay and deal with it, stay and cheat, or go? Pain.


zappaisfrank:

Word. As I am fond of saying "A man who is fed well at home has no need for restaurants".

exactly. no man will cheat if he's getting what he needs at home. it's that simple. really.


Ouch.

Yeah, any kind of ongoing sexual rejection from your spouse just plain farking hurts. I didn't get cut off, but, well, there are other forms of rejection.
 
2012-06-04 11:23:13 PM  
Key word being "admitted." Apparently men are more honest to.
 
2012-06-05 08:13:01 AM  

Gdalescrboz: Key word being "admitted." Apparently men are more honest to.


More honest to what?
 
2012-06-05 08:34:16 AM  

probesport: Gdalescrboz: Key word being "admitted." Apparently men are more honest to.

More honest to what?


Interviewers, obviously.
 
2012-06-05 09:27:05 AM  

untaken_name: probesport: Gdalescrboz: Key word being "admitted." Apparently men are more honest to.

More honest to what?

Interviewers, obviously.


Men gain social status by spreading their seed far and wide. Only something like 30% of all men in human history have reproduced. Married men are expected to curb this impulse, so they are threatened with legal penalties for infidelity. But single men are still allowed to cheat with few social consequences. Therefore, single men have a relatively low social cost of admitting infidelity.

Women have a very high social cost of admitting infidelity, even single women, and especially married ones. Women derive their social status from the social status of the mate they've attracted, which is why they are always looking to trade up to a better model, whenever possible. This is part of their hypergamous nature, which evolved as a means of getting the best genes for their offspring. Women have limited opportunities to reproduce in their lifetimes, owing to the fact that the pregnancy-infancy period is so long. Mate selection is a much more expensive gamble for women than men.

As a result of these biological pressures, women need to make a trade-off between two competing concerns -- being impregnated by the strongest, most virile, independent and ruthless male who will have sex with her, but also needing a male willing to stick around to provide resources, to ensure the survival of the young during their extremely long period of vulnerable infancy, and also to compensate for the woman's loss of her productivity during her late pregnancy and early motherhood.

This is why women are sexually attracted to bad boys (for their alpha seed), but are also emotionally drawn to domesticated providers (for their beta provisioning of resources).

Typically, women balance these two concerns by pledging their domestic devotion to the beta male, and giving him just enough sex that he won't leave, while vigorously and enthusiastically cheating on him with some random alpha she encounters. Not surprisingly, a woman's sexual infidelity usually happens around the time of her ovulation.

Which is also known as "girl's night out."
 
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