miss diminutive: steamingpile: Just a bit awkward.

Damn, I wasn't even there and I feel awkward.

What's really strange is that the women made it awkward by using slurs, the guys didn't give a shiat other than busting his balls, figuratively of course...

When one of them said "how can she stay with a guy who sucked dick" it was time to leave, from what I heard it went downhill from there. The guy ended up remarrying but the lady is still single, she can't seem to have a normal relationship and I keep telling her its because she lets her friends judge her too harshly. She needs new friends.

Christian Bale: coco ebert: Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?

More than you would think. I have gay friends who hook up with a lot of supposedly straight, married men.


I bet the number of gay men who fib about sleeping with straight, married men is greater than the number that actually do so. For some reason people think gay men are beacons of truth when talking about sex, since, what have they got to hide? But gay men exagerrate as much as straight men, certainly.

Instead of their wife being Morgan Fairchild, they're off sleeping with dozens of straight, married men.

One of my late gay friends (AIDS, RIP) was macho gay and used to use the line "I've slept with so many girls, I've always been attracted to girls until now... I don't know what it is about you, but you make me want you" on every straight man he met, including me, just for bragging rights when one fell for it. In related news, flaming gay guys love drama and will taunt the wife/girlfriend with the fact that their man sucked his cock right in public.

There are a lot of people who might not miss him, but he was always good for drama and tall tales.

miss diminutive: You know what they say, build a thousand bridges and no one calls you an engineer

Who says that? fark them!

nickerj1: It's not cheating if you don't know her name.

Also, guys cheat to fulfill physical temptations/needs. Women cheat emotionally, which is way worse.

I'd have to disagree with you there. Physical cheating can lead to diseases and pregnancy - both are way worse than someone's hurt feelings. But you're right in the sense that generally men cheat to fulfill physical needs and women cheat to fulfill emotional needs. It's funny how we can't seem to fulfill each other's needs :P.

RoyBatty: fwiw, here's the obvious

Fark comment link

Think men are the unfaithful sex? A study shows WOMEN are the biggest cheats - they're just better at lying about it

By Maureen Rice

UPDATED: 09:10 EST, 7 September 2009

Are men or women more likely to cheat? While men have always had a worse reputation for being unfaithful, recent studies show that women are catching up fast - but we are a lot more likely to lie about it, and a lot less likely to get caught.

Simply put, it seems that women are better at having affairs than men.

The news that Farrah Fawcett had a secret affair for 11 years without telling a soul is a classic example of the way a woman cheats: discreetly, in secret, and while carrying on with the rest of her life as normal.

It has been met with hot denials by Ryan O'Neal, but - and I'm sorry to break it to you this way, Ryan - you'd be the last to know.

According to Dr David Holmes, a psychologist at Manchester Metropolitan University, women are having more affairs than ever - recent studies say the figure is around 20 per cent for men and a bit over 15 per cent for women - but they behave very differently from men when they cheat.

'The biggest difference is that women are much better at keeping their affairs secret,' he says. 'If you look at the studies into paternity, even conservative figures show that between eight and 15 per cent of children haven't been fathered by the man who thinks he's the biological parent.'

Mandatory blood tests, and less generous child support laws. It's the only way to be sure.

/no, biatch, you don't deserve child support
from anything with a dick
just because you lied to the dick

i think there study is flawed.

1. men are more likely to admit to having intercourse with a high number of women because of obvious macho ego stuff.

2. women are more likely to lie about being with another man because they worry about there social status and dont want to be labeled a slut.

what was it i read? men lie up, women lie down?

thats why men invented the 4 dick rule. she says dont worry, ive only been with three guys. add 4 and thats more likely. tada

not sure if it works the other way around on guys. because frankly ive slept with thousands of women. odds are one of you may be the product of one of my affairs.

steamingpile: Christian Bale: coco ebert: Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?

More than you would think. I have gay friends who hook up with a lot of supposedly straight, married men.


I bet the number of gay men who fib about sleeping with straight, married men is greater than the number that actually do so. For some reason people think gay men are beacons of truth when talking about sex, since, what have they got to hide? But gay men exagerrate as much as straight men, certainly.

Instead of their wife being Morgan Fairchild, they're off sleeping with dozens of straight, married men.

So you've been outed that way?

A group of old friends got together when an acquaintance got married. While out at a local bar one of the guys had a stereotypical gay man come up to him and hug him while asking "why didn't you tell you were in town?" He just kind of looked over at us and walked away for a second to talk to the guy. Nobody really cared that night and we just gave him shiat but apparently some ass told his wife. It was something she knew about and they were "working" through....

Just a bit awkward.

You can't work through being homosexual. The dude is gay. If she wants to live with a gay man, more power to her. If she wants a straight man, she needs to leave. That dude will never not be gay, though.

As for 'some ass' telling his wife, if no one cared that night, then why would bringing it up to the wife be a big deal? She shouldn't have cared either, right? Or is it normal for folks to assist their friends in hiding affairs?

(I know, I know, the answer to the last is, "Yes.")

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Mandatory blood tests, and less generous child support laws. It's the only way to be sure.

It's kind of hard to change things. But it is as easy as hell to opt out.

Just watch out for the side effects: lots of disposable income and international travel.

Quaker: Apos: LordZorch: Turns out the article writer is a lying whore...

Or,to put it more delicately,relied on a woefully flawed research methodology-which,in turn,renders these 'findings' virtually useless.

FTFA: The 2006 American General Social Survey found that nearly twice as many married men as women admitted to having had sexual relations with someone other than their spouse.

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Came here to say this. Maybe the guy side is even a little high... was the survey conducted during a camp-out with dude-bro's wearing flat billed hats drinking natty light?

foxyshadis: Christian Bale: coco ebert: Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?

More than you would think. I have gay friends who hook up with a lot of supposedly straight, married men.


I bet the number of gay men who fib about sleeping with straight, married men is greater than the number that actually do so. For some reason people think gay men are beacons of truth when talking about sex, since, what have they got to hide? But gay men exagerrate as much as straight men, certainly.

Instead of their wife being Morgan Fairchild, they're off sleeping with dozens of straight, married men.

One of my late gay friends (AIDS, RIP) was macho gay and used to use the line "I've slept with so many girls, I've always been attracted to girls until now... I don't know what it is about you, but you make me want you" on every straight man he met, including me, just for bragging rights when one fell for it. In related news, flaming gay guys love drama and will taunt the wife/girlfriend with the fact that their man sucked his cock right in public.

There are a lot of people who might not miss him, but he was always good for drama and tall tales.

That sounds like my fried Brian who believed that very few people were truly straight. He said he only difference between straight and gay was a couple of drinks. He loved some conversion flings. Yes, he was a scamp but always had the best stories.

zzrhardy: A women can be still living with you and be farking someone else without cheating.

This is because for the women, the relationship with you was already over. They were just waiting on a better offer before moving on.

Women don't like downtime. They will stay in an "over" relationship without telling the guy because it beats being alone for them.

emotional/monetary support etc.

THIS!

AbbeySomeone: That sounds like my fried Brian who believed that very few people were truly straight. He said he only difference between straight and gay was a couple of drinks. He loved some conversion flings. Yes, he was a scamp but always had the best stories.

I have "bi" friends (I actually think they are gay) that claim to be straight when we go to gay bars so they can scam drinks and have sex, and they love to use the "I've never been attracted to a guy before" line.

I equate your friend to someone that's just conceited and out of touch. Just like the pot head that thinks everyone smokes pot, including the cops that bust them.

Hasn't anyone heard of the bloody double standard?

That women cheat to fulfill emotional needs is a load of bunk.

Women can decide in minutes whether or not she finds a guy farkable. If she finds a man attractive and wants to bone him she needs to fool herself into believing she's in love because she can't be honest with herself. If that deception means that she has to decide her emotional needs aren't being met in the relationship, so be it.

When women attack other women, the "go to" insult is to call her a slut or a whore. A lifetime of this causes sensitivity and self judgement. Enter the defense mechanisms, prompting a powerful rationalization that is far from rational, but part of the deception that protects her from calling herself a slut. It allows her to retain some level of self-acceptance. Hell, if she rationalizes hard enough, she can convince herself that she's the victim, and that she was weak. After all, her husband is the bad guy for not meeting her emotional needs.

Ask any guy in the friend zone. Has a woman ever thrown a leg over you because you met her emotional needs? Nope. Why? Because they separate love from lust as much as we men do.

The difference is that they must construct a bridge between the two out of 100 percent pure freeze dried bullshiat because she has been conditioned all her life that only sluts let their vagina do the thinking.

/been cheated on
//tried to work it out
///ditched her when she tried to blame it on me

zzrhardy: A women can be still living with you and be farking someone else without cheating.

This is because for the women, the relationship with you was already over. They were just waiting on a better offer before moving on.

Women don't like downtime. They will stay in an "over" relationship without telling the guy because it beats being alone for them.

emotional/monetary support etc.

Yep. I've never known a woman to leave a guy and then be alone, as soon as one relationship is over they are right with someone else.

fewer women are being unfaitful more often? umm say what??

PillsHere: nickerj1: Also, guys cheat to fulfill physical temptations/needs. Women cheat emotionally, which is way worse.

I'd have to disagree with you there. Physical cheating can lead to diseases and pregnancy - both are way worse than someone's hurt feelings. But you're right in the sense that generally men cheat to fulfill physical needs and women cheat to fulfill emotional needs. It's funny how we can't seem to fulfill each other's needs :P.

One thing is pretty constant: Women cheating on men with women or men cheating on women with men nearly always turns out very badly, despite the obvious parallels in needs. It's almost like all people are all deranged, damaged little savages all trying to believe that they deserve more than they have. Well, maybe not the monks that have sworn off everything.

pedobearapproved: I equate your friend to someone that's just conceited and out of touch. Just like the pot head that thinks everyone smokes pot, including the cops that bust them.

I think most or maybe all people would experiment if you removed any social stigma and emotional attachment. Sex is sex, and sex is fun, but as long as we have a stigma, most people have plenty of what satisfies their base needs all around without having to go experiment in unorthodox holes. That's not the same as saying everyone's a little bi, because a straight man will still try to go for the one girl in the corner of the gay bar, even if she's a butch dyke, and if she rejects him he'd go for the girliest drag queen. It takes a total disconnect from the opposite sex to turn a straight man bi/gay, though you might be able to get him drunk enough to make him not know the difference.

The temporary loss of the stigma might be what's causing the rise in bi-curious young women, who become strictly straight after university when the stigma returns. Or maybe growing up with the internet just makes people freaks, I don't know.

zzrhardy: Just watch out for the side effects: lots of disposable income and international travel.

I probably wouldn't be traveling internationally or nearly as widely if I wasn't with someone. Sometimes you need that nudge. Knowing me, I'd have probably become addicted to some stupid online thing.

/No, no, I can stop Farking any time I like, no addiction there guvn'r

steamingpile: miss diminutive: steamingpile: Just a bit awkward.

Damn, I wasn't even there and I feel awkward.

What's really strange is that the women made it awkward by using slurs, the guys didn't give a shiat other than busting his balls, figuratively of course...

When one of them said "how can she stay with a guy who sucked dick" it was time to leave, from what I heard it went downhill from there. The guy ended up remarrying but the lady is still single, she can't seem to have a normal relationship and I keep telling her its because she lets her friends judge her too harshly. She needs new friends.

It might not be her friends, it is simply much harder for a woman to find a partner once she is no longer in her twenties than it is for a man. Which is why some women do the thing of staying in a relationship they have declared "dead" until such time as they have found a new man to move onto. Not sure how much future there was in the relationship with a guy who was also into guys anyway, he sounds like the one with the issues that needed resolving.

pedobearapproved: AbbeySomeone: That sounds like my fried Brian who believed that very few people were truly straight. He said he only difference between straight and gay was a couple of drinks. He loved some conversion flings. Yes, he was a scamp but always had the best stories.

I have "bi" friends (I actually think they are gay) that claim to be straight when we go to gay bars so they can scam drinks and have sex, and they love to use the "I've never been attracted to a guy before" line.

I equate your friend to someone that's just conceited and out of touch. Just like the pot head that thinks everyone smokes pot, including the cops that bust them.

Well yeah, he's been pretty out of touch since he died.
F*ck you.

zez: Yep. I've never known a woman to leave a guy and then be alone, as soon as one relationship is over they are right with someone else.

BECAUSE THEY CAN, THAT'S WHY

Seriously, all a decent looking woman needs to do is smile.

I think "cheating" is a much broader concept than just sex. I think cheating is any role or function that should be fulfilled by your partner, but you are doing it with someone else. Sex is one of those roles. But so is deep friendship, emotional openness, and even attention. One thing I've noticed about women is that many of them like to surround themselves with a small group of guy friends. Sometimes a large group, but still male friends. Even when they're in a relationship. They like the feeling of being wanted, the attention, having people they know they can get to do stuff for them, compliment them, and as fall-backs for dating or sex if the need arises. I think this is a form of cheating. Obviously just having friends of the opposite gender isn't cheating. But what I'm talking about goes beyond that. Having long conversations with the friendzone guys, flirting just enough to keep them thinking they have a shot so they stick around and keep giving her attention. That sort of thing IMO is a form of cheating. If I was in a relationship, I would definitely not be comfortable if my girlfriend had a bunch of guy friends she was that flirty with.

As far as the actual "study" I think this just shows women are more comfortable with lying. Women see the truth as secondary to "the effect". Take a look at the classic "Does this dress make me look fat?" question. A man would just answer with the truth. To men, the truth is a concrete thing. The dress either does or doesn't make her look fat. To a woman, the most important factor is the effect of what is said. "Yes" would make her feel bad, "No" would make her feel good, so "no" is the preferred answer. Not because it's true, but because it achieves the desired result. The truth is subservient to what they want to the outcome to be. You see this with all sorts of lies. Ask a woman out, and instead of her saying "I don't want to" she'll make up a story about why she "can't". It's a lie. But she doesn't want you to feel bad about the rejection (the effect), so a lie is better than the truth. Women invented the entire idea behind "little white lies". So in this study, the effect of telling the truth would be seeming like whores. Even if it's just admitting to themselves that they cheated, it still makes them feel bad. So a lie, even a lie to themselves, is always preferable to the truth.

How did I get sucked into reading that whole retarded post?

foxyshadis:
I think most or maybe all people would experiment if you removed any social stigma and emotional attachment. Sex is sex, and sex is fun, but as long as we have a stigma, most people have plenty of what satisfies their base needs all around without having to go experiment in unorthodox holes. That's not the same as saying everyone's a little bi, because a straight man will still try to go for the one girl in the corner of the gay bar, even if she's a butch dyke, and if she rejects him he'd go for the girliest drag queen. It takes a total disconnect from the opposite sex to turn a straight man bi/gay, though you might be able to get him drunk enough to make him not know the difference.

The temporary loss of the stigma might be what's causing the rise in bi-curious young women, who become strictly straight after university when the stigma returns. Or maybe growing up with the internet just makes people freaks, I don't know.


My personal theory is that sexuality lies on a continuum, rather than something as simplistic and a choice between hetero, homo or bi.

Some people would be so far along the line of being heterosexual that there is not enough alcohol in the world that would make them want to even experiment with someone of the same sex. Likewise some homosexuals would possibly be at the other end of the spectrum in that they cannot ever find any attraction to members of the opposite sex, ever. In the middle would be the bi-sexual people who have no concerns regarding the gender of their object of desire.

But you would not know where the average person would lie along the line. So perhaps an individual is somewhere closer to being bi and a few drinks is enough to loosen inhibitions enough to allow them to experiment a little. But perhaps they would rather drink poison than do so. It strikes me as a little odd to assume that because the occasional outwardly heterosexual person shows a little bi-curiosity, that therefore all heterosexuals are just a few drinks and a removal of stigma away from doing the same.

A man may or may not be honorable, but in general, men are taught that honor and integrity are key components of manhood. The connotation of the phrase"be a man" (or "man up") illustrates this.

A woman also may or may not be honorable, but "be a woman" carries a completely different connotation, unrelated to integrity. I'm convinced that women cheat just as much, or more, but they aren't generally taught to have the same compass that men are, and so they see getting away with infidelity as something they are somewhat more entitled to.

This is, of course, a broad generalization.

taurusowner: I think "cheating" is a much broader concept than just sex. I think cheating is any role or function that should be fulfilled by your partner, but you are doing it with someone else. Sex is one of those roles. But so is deep friendship, emotional openness, and even attention. One thing I've noticed about women is that many of them like to surround themselves with a small group of guy friends. Sometimes a large group, but still male friends. Even when they're in a relationship. They like the feeling of being wanted, the attention, having people they know they can get to do stuff for them, compliment them, and as fall-backs for dating or sex if the need arises. I think this is a form of cheating. Obviously just having friends of the opposite gender isn't cheating. But what I'm talking about goes beyond that. Having long conversations with the friendzone guys, flirting just enough to keep them thinking they have a shot so they stick around and keep giving her attention....


Seriously that sounds like the worst sort of woman in the world, but only the really good looking girls get away with that. I have seen the type and I almost feel sorry for the guys who orbit them, until I realise that the guys are the one torturing themselves and are fully able to go and find some better girl who is perhaps less "hot" if only they could get the blood flowing back away from their genitals and into their brains for a minute.

AbbeySomeone: Well yeah, he's been pretty out of touch since he died.
F*ck you.

ever heard the whole thing about not sharing personal stories on the internet if you can't take them being criticized?

Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?

No dear they cheat with prostitutes and yes those prostitutes do quite a few men each day.

I think its very well known that men want sex for the sake of just sex more than women. Which is why there are so many female prostitutes that service just men. Compared to the number of male prostitutes that service women.

Now women do like sex, but they also want more than just sex and they are more fussy. Hence they are less likely to cheat for just sex, but are probably just as likely if not more likely to cheat emotionally.

I will put it this way.

If a man went over seas on a holiday he would probably fark a number of women starting pretty soon after he got off the plan, but would come home and pretend he did nothing because these women had no emotional connection and were just farks.

The woman would probably, in the beginning, not have sex but form emotional relationships with a few men and narrow it down to one man who gives her more than a root. She would then break it off with her boyfriend back home to pursue the relationship with the man she met overseas.

This is of course not true for Fark women who like to fark just as much as men for farking sake and are probably the only women in the world to frequent male prostitutes.

subby's a retard, women get caught more because guys are -- ahem -- stupid about it. like they want to get caught.

/dumb biatches

taurusowner: Ask a woman out, and instead of her saying "I don't want to" she'll make up a story about why she "can't". It's a lie. But she doesn't want you to feel bad about the rejection (the effect), so a lie is better than the truth.

I started out my dating life telling guys that I just didn't want to go out with them. Then I met Mr. "Can't take no for an answer". Some guys don't take rejection well. They get mean and scary when you just say "no thanks". I'd rather lie than get a psycho guy mad at me. So yeah, I wouldn't want the guy to feel bad about the rejection but not because I care about his feelings. It is because I wouldn't want him parked in front of my house at 2 am to see if I let my date in.

Gramma: taurusowner: Ask a woman out, and instead of her saying "I don't want to" she'll make up a story about why she "can't". It's a lie. But she doesn't want you to feel bad about the rejection (the effect), so a lie is better than the truth.

I started out my dating life telling guys that I just didn't want to go out with them. Then I met Mr. "Can't take no for an answer". Some guys don't take rejection well. They get mean and scary when you just say "no thanks". I'd rather lie than get a psycho guy mad at me. So yeah, I wouldn't want the guy to feel bad about the rejection but not because I care about his feelings. It is because I wouldn't want him parked in front of my house at 2 am to see if I let my date in.

But Hollywood has taught us that women find secret admirers to be romantic!

And you don't get much more romantic than a 2.00 am stakeout...

steamingpile:
I also love the argument where people say humans are just animals and weren't meant to be monogamous, well in the natural animal world males have multiple mates and if another male dares approach they attack.

Most "monogamous" animals are actually SOCIALLY monogamous. Both males and females engage in extra-pair mating but maintain their bond with their primary mate. This optimizes potential for opportunistic mating with genetically suitable partners... but leaves both with a reliable mate who will fulfil any required brood rearing and food gathering roles.

H31N0US: zez: Yep. I've never known a woman to leave a guy and then be alone, as soon as one relationship is over they are right with someone else.

BECAUSE THEY CAN, THAT'S WHY

Seriously, all a decent looking woman needs to do is smile.

Smile? All they have to do is signal they are good to go and BAM!.

Guest: Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?

No dear they cheat with prostitutes and yes those prostitutes do quite a few men each day.

I think its very well known that men want sex for the sake of just sex more than women. Which is why there are so many female prostitutes that service just men. Compared to the number of male prostitutes that service women.

Now women do like sex, but they also want more than just sex and they are more fussy. Hence they are less likely to cheat for just sex, but are probably just as likely if not more likely to cheat emotionally.

I will put it this way.

If a man went over seas on a holiday he would probably fark a number of women starting pretty soon after he got off the plan, but would come home and pretend he did nothing because these women had no emotional connection and were just farks.

The woman would probably, in the beginning, not have sex but form emotional relationships with a few men and narrow it down to one man who gives her more than a root. She would then break it off with her boyfriend back home to pursue the relationship with the man she met overseas.

This is of course not true for Fark women who like to fark just as much as men for farking sake and are probably the only women in the world to frequent male prostitutes.

I feel like I'm reading Dear Prudence here.

Public Savant: Gramma: taurusowner: Ask a woman out, and instead of her saying "I don't want to" she'll make up a story about why she "can't". It's a lie. But she doesn't want you to feel bad about the rejection (the effect), so a lie is better than the truth.

I started out my dating life telling guys that I just didn't want to go out with them. Then I met Mr. "Can't take no for an answer". Some guys don't take rejection well. They get mean and scary when you just say "no thanks". I'd rather lie than get a psycho guy mad at me. So yeah, I wouldn't want the guy to feel bad about the rejection but not because I care about his feelings. It is because I wouldn't want him parked in front of my house at 2 am to see if I let my date in.

But Hollywood has taught us that women find secret admirers to be romantic!

And you don't get much more romantic than a 2.00 am stakeout...

Stalking is a way of showing perseverance and true dedication.

foxyshadis: pedobearapproved: I equate your friend to someone that's just conceited and out of touch. Just like the pot head that thinks everyone smokes pot, including the cops that bust them.

I think most or maybe all people would experiment if you removed any social stigma and emotional attachment. Sex is sex, and sex is fun, but as long as we have a stigma, most people have plenty of what satisfies their base needs all around without having to go experiment in unorthodox holes. That's not the same as saying everyone's a little bi, because a straight man will still try to go for the one girl in the corner of the gay bar, even if she's a butch dyke, and if she rejects him he'd go for the girliest drag queen. It takes a total disconnect from the opposite sex to turn a straight man bi/gay, though you might be able to get him drunk enough to make him not know the difference.

The temporary loss of the stigma might be what's causing the rise in bi-curious young women, who become strictly straight after university when the stigma returns. Or maybe growing up with the internet just makes people freaks, I don't know.

What do a bi-girl and a bi-guy have in common? at the end of the day they both end up with dudes.

Bi experimentation for females in the West has always been more socially acceptable. Behind closed doors its probably at the same rate as male, but males just say "I'm straight," rather than "I'm bi." As I recall the extreme social stigma was an explanation of the high HIV infection rate among "straight" african-american males. I don't think, in this day and age, the stigma is preventing anyone from fooling around with whoever they want to. Which for the most part isn't someone of the same sex, alcohol or not. Getting admission to what they've done is the trick.

Guest: Ambivalence: Who are they cheating with? Each other?

No dear they cheat with prostitutes and yes those prostitutes do quite a few men each day.

I think its very well known that men want sex for the sake of just sex more than women. Which is why there are so many female prostitutes that service just men. Compared to the number of male prostitutes that service women.

Now women do like sex, but they also want more than just sex and they are more fussy. Hence they are less likely to cheat for just sex, but are probably just as likely if not more likely to cheat emotionally.

I will put it this way.

If a man went over seas on a holiday he would probably fark a number of women starting pretty soon after he got off the plan, but would come home and pretend he did nothing because these women had no emotional connection and were just farks.

The woman would probably, in the beginning, not have sex but form emotional relationships with a few men and narrow it down to one man who gives her more than a root. She would then break it off with her boyfriend back home to pursue the relationship with the man she met overseas.

This is of course not true for Fark women who like to fark just as much as men for farking sake and are probably the only women in the world to frequent male prostitutes.


I am in awe.

That is one of the smartest posts on the motivations of men vs women I have read. I am going to guess you are a woman since men don't normally get the concept of there possibly being anything more to sex than just a fark in the first place.

/Fark woman, but one of the ones who only wants sex if it is part of a relationship thanks, so not likely to visit a male prostitute ever

A married woman I've known since high school, a real church-goer, recently hit on me big time. I declined, as I've known her husband ( a decent guy) just as long. I asked her "what if you found out he cheated on you?"
She said, "Oh, I'd kill him. But this is different."
She went on to try justifying it in various ways, then gave me the silent treatment for a few weeks. We're still friends, but she's circling like a shark.
If there's a god, he better be keeping score. That was not easy. To be honest: if he was beating her, or cheating himself, I'd have been all over that. I could also see her tearfully confessing to him in a few months, so it was as much about self-preservation as anything else.
/wimmen be crazy.

No Such Agency: This optimizes potential for opportunistic mating with genetically suitable partners... but leaves both with a reliable mate who will fulfil any required brood rearing and food gathering roles.

I see no benefit in being the (often cuckolded) brood rearer/food gather, and lots of benefit in being the opportunistic mating partner.

All the fun, none of the work and you get to keep all your own resources.

The only downside is that you have to keep a bit of a aggressive/competitive/dominant thing going, which kinda grates with the intellect pretty quickly.

phrenicmonkey: A married woman I've known since high school, a real church-goer, recently hit on me big time. I declined, as I've known her husband ( a decent guy) just as long. I asked her "what if you found out he cheated on you?"
She said, "Oh, I'd kill him. But this is different."
She went on to try justifying it in various ways, then gave me the silent treatment for a few weeks. We're still friends, but she's circling like a shark.
If there's a god, he better be keeping score. That was not easy. To be honest: if he was beating her, or cheating himself, I'd have been all over that. I could also see her tearfully confessing to him in a few months, so it was as much about self-preservation as anything else.
/wimmen be crazy.

Just out of curiosity, but what did she say as the justification for it being "different"? I'm fascinated by the mental gymnastics many women perform to justify double standards.

taurusowner: phrenicmonkey: A married woman I've known since high school, a real church-goer, recently hit on me big time. I declined, as I've known her husband ( a decent guy) just as long. I asked her "what if you found out he cheated on you?"
She said, "Oh, I'd kill him. But this is different."
She went on to try justifying it in various ways, then gave me the silent treatment for a few weeks. We're still friends, but she's circling like a shark.
If there's a god, he better be keeping score. That was not easy. To be honest: if he was beating her, or cheating himself, I'd have been all over that. I could also see her tearfully confessing to him in a few months, so it was as much about self-preservation as anything else.
/wimmen be crazy.

Just out of curiosity, but what did she say as the justification for it being "different"? I'm fascinated by the mental gymnastics many women perform to justify double standards.

Essentially, she was bored with her marriage. Also "just the tip". I explained how I don't just eat one potato chip.

phrenicmonkey: Also "just the tip".

A married woman asked for 'just the tip" in her attempt at an affair?

My bullsh*t meter just went into meltdown.

The Muthaship: phrenicmonkey: Also "just the tip".

A married woman asked for 'just the tip" in her attempt at an affair?

My bullsh*t meter just went into meltdown.

Those are my words. But she wanted everything short of "everything". I didn't believe her either. And I don't like blue balls.