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2012-06-04 09:05:07 AM

FuryOfFirestorm: Cythraul: FuryOfFirestorm: BronyMedic: You know, for someone who supposedly ignored me, someone's raging pretty hard.

At this point, I'd like to take a break in the thread to plug Ben And Jerry's coffee Heath Bar Crunch ice cream.

This stuff is awesome. Each bite is like the tears of impotent rage in this thread.

I prefer their new Chocolate Therapy flavor. Chocolate ice cream with lots of crunchy chocolate cookie pieces (like Oreos) and swirls of creamy chocolate pudding. It's so damn good, I want to f*ck the living shiat out of Ben & Jerry just for making it.

Are they your type? Or is it just THAT good?

Well, i'm not into 60 year old hippies, so I'll go with the latter option.


I really need to try that ice cream, then.
 
2012-06-04 09:22:59 AM
Cythraul: I really need to try that ice cream, then.

Ben and Jerries is more delicious than making ICB go full retard in this thread. And that was pretty delicious.
 
2012-06-04 09:31:55 AM

BronyMedic: Cythraul: I really need to try that ice cream, then.

Ben and Jerries is more delicious than making ICB go full retard in this thread. And that was pretty delicious.


I was thinking it might be fun to come up with some alternates for what ICB stands for:
Insane Clown Bot?
Inane Chatter Box?
Imploded Cluster Bomb?
Imported Concern Bot?
 
2012-06-04 09:36:11 AM

s2s2s2: BronyMedic: Cythraul: I really need to try that ice cream, then.

Ben and Jerries is more delicious than making ICB go full retard in this thread. And that was pretty delicious.

I was thinking it might be fun to come up with some alternates for what ICB stands for:
Insane Clown Bot?
Inane Chatter Box?
Imploded Cluster Bomb?
Imported Concern Bot?


I Contain Botulism?
 
2012-06-04 09:40:13 AM

Cythraul: I Contain Botulism?


A finalist, to be sure.
 
2012-06-04 09:45:47 AM

anuran: Of course, you wouldn't want to use material like that around Jews, Cherokees, Inuit, Dineh, Australian Aborigines, Congolese, Tutsi, Jews, Muslims or about a hundred others.


www.morethings.com
You said "Jews" twice
 
2012-06-04 09:47:38 AM

BeerBear: Boatmech: BeerBear: Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

Hello Bevets, still full of it I see

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'Bevets' gets paid every time his ALT is mentioned on Fark.

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/teach the controversy . com
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// :(|)


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Hello Bevets, would you like to answer one simple question?

still think Bevets no longer a human and is sort of spambot that comes in on religion threads to post BS


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The first copypasta posts and the others structured like that are probably spambot crap.
I've seen a couple of human only replies.
/if you get bored, keep pestering him about that
ONE simple question. he can't/won't respond to, much less answer.
 
2012-06-04 10:08:26 AM

ursomniac: sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children. They have a meal, sing bible songs, have a basic bible lesson (like the Good Samaritan), play games for small prizes, memorize a bible verse, and have a story about a missionary.

In no way, shape, or form should there be anything else going on. It is no different than traditonal Vacation Bible School or Sunday School.

I see that the article is talking about a lesson in next year's plan, which I have not seen and can't comment on it's accuracy.

Just because some Christians are crazy and fanatical doesn't mean every Christian is crazy and fanatical.

I did not convert to Christianity until I was 30 years old. I have been on both sides of the fence and both sides have ridiculous assumptions about the other.

The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

These children are not forced to go to club. It is a completely voluntary club. Parents sign permission slips. If you have any earnest questions about my experience with the Good News Club , EIP.

I'm not trying to change any one person's opinion. I just wanted to share my experience.

Can you explain why they're not held in a church? It's not as if there is a lack of churches anywhere in the US. What justification can you provide that requires the use of secular, civil facilities?

If a non-believer brought their kids for the meal and not the service, would you turn them away? If so, how can you reconcile that with your core beliefs?


1. It is not held in a church because it is designed to be an after school club. It is non-denominational. A church is a group of people, not a building. A large part of Christian beliefs is to minister to people outside your own church. To teach them about the life of Jesus. If you disagree with having religious clubs after school then I suggest you lobby your Congressman. And I do not mean that in a smart butt way.

2. What on Earth would give you the notion that I or anyone else in a ministry such as this would turn away someone who was hungry? We have children who we sneak extra food into their backpacks to take home to their siblings and moms and dads. We sneak it so the other children do not know.

I just want to tell the other side of the story, not draw a line in the sand. If you have read my previous posts, you would have seen that I was not always a Christian and I have asked the same questions as many of the thread commentators in my life. I have chosen this path and am happy. I suggest that parents expose their children to many cultures and let them find their way. Also, I don't think that any person who follows a religion agrees with every single thing in the doctrine and I refuse to be defined by the actions of someone else.
 
2012-06-04 10:09:46 AM
So many seemingly intelligent and articulate people and they have the reading comprehension of a West Nile mosquito.
 
2012-06-04 10:15:24 AM

Bevets: Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Millions of people throughout history would disagree with you on that, or would, if you hadn't killed them all.
 
2012-06-04 10:16:39 AM

Cythraul: s2s2s2: BronyMedic: Cythraul: I really need to try that ice cream, then.

Ben and Jerries is more delicious than making ICB go full retard in this thread. And that was pretty delicious.

I was thinking it might be fun to come up with some alternates for what ICB stands for:
Insane Clown Bot?
Inane Chatter Box?
Imploded Cluster Bomb?
Imported Concern Bot?

I Contain Botulism?


Impotent Collection of Bullshiat
 
2012-06-04 10:20:44 AM

Anonymocoso: All those posts and no one has posted "Invisible sky wizard with a zombie son" yet.


So, what are you saying. That your god is visible, does not reside in heaven, and has no special powers and that Jesus is not his son who rose from the dead?

Because that's what "invisible sky wizard with a zombie son" describes.
 
2012-06-04 10:21:31 AM

CJHardin: Cythraul: s2s2s2: BronyMedic: Cythraul: I really need to try that ice cream, then.

Ben and Jerries is more delicious than making ICB go full retard in this thread. And that was pretty delicious.

I was thinking it might be fun to come up with some alternates for what ICB stands for:
Insane Clown Bot?
Inane Chatter Box?
Imploded Cluster Bomb?
Imported Concern Bot?

I Contain Botulism?

Impotent Collection of Bullshiat


I Contain Bevets.
 
2012-06-04 10:26:45 AM

Darth_Lukecash: In all fairness to the crusades, a Muslim empire had invaded Spain first. Ah well the Moors the merrier.


Moops!!
 
2012-06-04 10:32:28 AM

sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children. They have a meal, sing bible songs, have a basic bible lesson (like the Good Samaritan), play games for small prizes, memorize a bible verse, and have a story about a missionary.

In no way, shape, or form should there be anything else going on. It is no different than traditonal Vacation Bible School or Sunday School.

I see that the article is talking about a lesson in next year's plan, which I have not seen and can't comment on it's accuracy.

Just because some Christians are crazy and fanatical doesn't mean every Christian is crazy and fanatical.

I did not convert to Christianity until I was 30 years old. I have been on both sides of the fence and both sides have ridiculous assumptions about the other.

The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

These children are not forced to go to club. It is a completely voluntary club. Parents sign permission slips. If you have any earnest questions about my experience with the Good News Club , EIP.

I'm not trying to change any one person's opinion. I just wanted to share my experience.


You are in denial of what your superiors intentions are. It's ok, lots of people let themselves be willingly ignorant.

The hierarchy of your church plays outright footsie with rightwing politicians meaning YOU as a well meaning volunteer, are part of that political apparatus that is tearing our country apart. It is the disintigration between the church and the state that soils the soul of the church. Keep it up and be ready for either a tax bill or a FEC filing requirement as a political organization.

Oh and by the way, when your church advocates the killing of MY SON who does not believe in YOUR FAIRYTALE you'd better believe I have a beef with it. If you Christians want acceptance from the rest of us, stop trying to legislate behavior according to your interpretation of a millenniums old second hand account of what your imaginary friend said.
 
2012-06-04 10:44:10 AM

anuran: Bevets: 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

BWA-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!
Oh, Bevets. You slay me! You should be a comedian with material like that.
Of course, you wouldn't want to use material like that around Jews, Cherokees, Inuit, Dineh, Australian Aborigines, Congolese, Tutsi, Jews, Muslims or about a hundred others.
And so many others from the Athabasca to a bunch of Sudanese tribes aren't around to throw things at you.


Hell, LGBT people in several countries in sub-Saharan Africa as well as kids accused of witchcraft in the same regions would have VERY SERIOUS arguments with your statements--seeing as these groups are quite officially persecuted (in the case of the kids accused of witchcraft, actually resulting in a fairly serious "displaced persons" crisis of functional orphans) and at least one country (Uganda) has quite persistently tried to pass a religiously-motivated genocide law.

I will note that these are the selfsame folks pushing the "If God wants you to kill, do it in the dominionist community here, including in the "Good News" clubs, and the dominionists in the US are finally being publically outed for the calls for genocide against LGBT people and neopagans that they've been doing in their churches for the better part of forty years...some of it being because folks are FINALLY starting to infiltrate the bad actors with cameras to record the damning proof on film, but a lot of it is that dominionists are "feeling their oats" enough here to actually publically call for death camps for Teh Gays.

/grew up in a Jesus Camper hate group that called for forcible conversion or genocide of LGBT people and neopagans and "feminists"...back in 1980; yes, this is actually one of my earlier childhood memories, and it sucks
//would definitely be among the first against the wall if Jesus Campers ever got to enact their full governmental agenda--ESPECIALLY as a vocal walkaway
 
2012-06-04 10:53:42 AM

Because People in power are Stupid:
Sure, Hinduism and Buddhism offer some salvation from this "Kill them all, let god sort them out" belief -however: aren't they a little less believable without this fundamental tenant?


Actual Buddhism has no problem with killing nonbelievers and Hinduism is pretty encouraging of killing basically whoever. Note that the hip American book club version of buddhism has about as much to do with the actual historical religion as neopaganism has to do with the actual religion of the Norse reavers.

Humans, it's been noted, aren't the most peaceful and forgiving of animals whether the context is religious or not.
 
2012-06-04 10:58:38 AM

meanmutton: Lionel Mandrake: Well, it's only fair, given all the atheist and agnostic organizations that teach their children to kill Christians.

Right?

Because radical atheists are much worse than radical Christians.

Right?

You know, when you are willfully ignorant of things that happened less than 100 years ago, you're discrediting all of us atheists.

Do a little reading and see how Pol Pot dealt with religious practitioners and learn about Mao Zedong's Four Olds campaign or the USSR Anti-Religous Campaigns.

Radical atheists slaughtered millions attempting to instill government-forced atheism in the 20th century. Trying to paint all Christians with the genocide brush because of acts that took place hundreds of years ago makes even less sense than trying to paint all atheists with the genocide brush because of acts that took place a few decades ago.


Just as a note--Pol Pot's regime, Maoist "revolutionary" groups, and Stalinist (and Stalinist-like) groups are actually regarded in the very same category as Jesus Campers promoting "kill the unbelievers"--as de facto coercive religious groups.

(In fact, arguably Maoist and especially Kim-ist/juche-ist groups during the Korean War and afterwards tend to be considered the prototypical example of abusive coercive groups; the term "brainwashing" actually came into the English lexicon through a mistranslation of "thought reform", which is the term the Chinese and Koreans used for coercive tactics in maintenance of their groups and the term now used broadly for coercive tactics systems.)

Specifically, the various "Communist" groups you mention would be defined as classic parareligious "Personality cults" where a leader is near-deified (in the case of the Juche cult in North Korea, this has evolved into a frank coercive religious group proper where the Kim dynasty are deified as god-emperors)--in other words, these act more as functional "state religions" centered around a Great Leader, but otherwise pretty much operate the same as Scientology or the Moonies (just with a LOT more guns and a higher likelihood of causing some serious damage to apostates).

And for the record--yes, Jesus Campers (of the sort who promote this stuff) are considered coercive religious groups too (particularly in Australia, where there's been a lot of public awareness thanks to the political wing of the Assemblies of God known as Family First there); Al Quaida and the Taliban are actually considered coercive religious groups to boot (specifically, as Wahhabist "Quran-based" coercive religious groups); there's even been a VERY good argument that the Nazi Party as it operated in Germany from 1933-1945 constituted a personality cult-type coercive religious group that attempted to evolve into a frank religionationalist coercive religious group (evidence of the latter being from the effective official steeplejacking of Christian churches during Nazi rule thus leading to the Confessing Church movement and a certain quote by a certain Niemoller when he was interned in a concentration camp for being a member of the Confessing Church movement).

/seriously, some very farked-up things make more sense when you see it less as a milquetoast "missionary" movement or political movement and look at it more as a coercive religious group
//I'm actually surprised someone has not done a "coerciveness test" of the modern GOP in the same way as has been done with other personality cults or coercive religious groups, because more and more it IS starting to develop some warning signs of coerciveness
///this well could be because the GOP HAS been functionally steeplejacked and turned into the de facto political wing of a coercive religious movement, though
 
2012-06-04 11:09:37 AM

sharpiegreed: Excuse me, I have to get back to plotting how I can get my hands on the weak and needy.


So that's how you fill the fridges at your soup kitchen!

// Do you have a good recipe for them?
 
2012-06-04 11:25:06 AM
EPED

Leeds: sharpiegreed: Excuse me, I have to get back to plotting how I can get my hands on the weak and needy.

So that's how you fill the fridges at your soup kitchen!

// Do you have a good recipe for them?


Depends, are you looking for a quick dish or something more traditional like for Thanksgiving?
 
2012-06-04 11:27:08 AM

plewis: sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children. They have a meal, sing bible songs, have a basic bible lesson (like the Good Samaritan), play games for small prizes, memorize a bible verse, and have a story about a missionary.

In no way, shape, or form should there be anything else going on. It is no different than traditonal Vacation Bible School or Sunday School.

I see that the article is talking about a lesson in next year's plan, which I have not seen and can't comment on it's accuracy.

Just because some Christians are crazy and fanatical doesn't mean every Christian is crazy and fanatical.

I did not convert to Christianity until I was 30 years old. I have been on both sides of the fence and both sides have ridiculous assumptions about the other.

The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

These children are not forced to go to club. It is a completely voluntary club. Parents sign permission slips. If you have any earnest questions about my experience with the Good News Club , EIP.

I'm not trying to change any one person's opinion. I just wanted to share my experience.

You are in denial of what your superiors intentions are. It's ok, lots of people let themselves be willingly ignorant.

The hierarchy of your church plays outright footsie with rightwing politicians meaning YOU as a well meaning volunteer, are part of that political apparatus that is tearing our country apart. It is the disintigration between the church and the state that soils the soul of the church. Keep it up and be ready for either a tax bill or a FEC filing requirement as a political organization.

Oh and by the way, when your church advocates the killing of MY SON who does no ...


I must have missed the meeting about killing your son. Was that last Thursday?
 
2012-06-04 11:31:19 AM

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.




I actually wanted to point that out too..

"over 100,000 elementary school students in American public schools will receive explicit coaching"

is just a tad misleading from:

"carried out in public schoolroom classes after the school day has ended, is fully legal"


I'd object if this "indoctrination" was something that was mandatory in a public school during school hours, but this is an after-school club.. if parents or their children object to the content of the club.. just don't go! It really is that simple, regardless of the content being discussed.
 
2012-06-04 11:38:47 AM
Pfft, everyone killed by Christian crusades would have been dead by now anyway, biiiiiiig deal.
 
2012-06-04 11:47:34 AM

Hella Fark: I'd object if this "indoctrination" was something that was mandatory in a public school during school hours, but this is an after-school club.. if parents or their children object to the content of the club.. just don't go! It really is that simple, regardless of the content being discussed.


Children are property. Ask any child that's been forced to go to Jesus Camp.
 
2012-06-04 11:55:13 AM

A Non Amos: I can't overlook a grammar mistake on my part. I was referring to what I posted earlier: check out my bio, I'm always working on it (again).


Pssst you're trying too hard!

/;-)
 
2012-06-04 11:55:53 AM

Hella Fark: Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.



I actually wanted to point that out too..

"over 100,000 elementary school students in American public schools will receive explicit coaching"

is just a tad misleading from:

"carried out in public schoolroom classes after the school day has ended, is fully legal"


I'd object if this "indoctrination" was something that was mandatory in a public school during school hours, but this is an after-school club.. if parents or their children object to the content of the club.. just don't go! It really is that simple, regardless of the content being discussed.


You might want to rethink that genocide remark.
 
2012-06-04 12:10:46 PM

Mad_Radhu: Bevets: 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

Tell that to these folks:

[espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com image 575x446]

I'm sure all those passages in the Bible where God said it was okay to murder every man, woman, and child who lived in the land promised to the Hebrews had NO influence on the various groups of Christians who saw the Americas as their new "promised land".


You do realize that some 90% of the Native Americans were killed by disease before the Europeans started colonizing the Americas? That a lot of our government is based on ideas they provided? That the pilgrims survived because one of the natives caught a ship back home and realized that his how town had died of disease while he was away, so he taught the pilgrims how to make the town work?

History is fun. Trusting schools to get it right isn't.
 
2012-06-04 12:29:10 PM

StrangeQ: What a brilliant idea...now I can use this the next time some birther, 'the A-rabs took our jerbs' mouth-breather wants to spout off about how Islam is a religion of the sword and instructs its followers to kill all non-believers.


You're happy because now you can say, "B-b-b-b-but Christians!"?

And are you insinuating that the Qur'an doesn't instruct Muslims to kill non-believers?
 
2012-06-04 12:39:29 PM

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


And with this gutsy flop-shot, Bevets wins the thread.

Bevets is back, baby!

/no genocides in the name of Christianity.....that is Gold!
 
2012-06-04 12:53:03 PM

sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children.


Who gets to decide what is correct? The Bible says to kill nonbelievers. Why do you imply that is incorrect? Do you have supernatural knowledge of what parts of the Bible should be discarded and which should be taught?

Maybe if you'd spent your voluntary time learning grammar instead of teaching religious fanaticism you'd be able to know the difference between it's and its, know that a lot is two words, and how to avoid writing sentence fragments.
 
2012-06-04 01:04:09 PM

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Um, Bevets, this is a group advocating to small children genocide. Exactly how can this be anything less than disgusting to you?

Unless you aren't a Christian, of course.
 
2012-06-04 01:14:40 PM
Ha! How about that? Not a single word on the part of Alternet about the 55 million souls destroyed for the unpardonable sin of being inconvenient.

That right there, yo Momma would say, is hypocrisy writ large.
 
2012-06-04 01:16:19 PM
If only Christianity had some over-arching trump commandment that forbade killing...
 
2012-06-04 01:21:47 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Ha! How about that? Not a single word on the part of Alternet about the 55 million souls destroyed for the unpardonable sin of being inconvenient.

That right there, yo Momma would say, is hypocrisy writ large.


You mean that the Christians stood by and did absolutely Jack-diddly about until just about 60 or so years ago, you know, despite the procedure being performed nearly a century before that?

Glass house, meet...

doghousenetwork.com
 
2012-06-04 01:33:35 PM

SkunkWerks: Clemkadidlefark: Ha! How about that? Not a single word on the part of Alternet about the 55 million souls destroyed for the unpardonable sin of being inconvenient.

That right there, yo Momma would say, is hypocrisy writ large.

You mean that the Christians stood by and did absolutely Jack-diddly about until just about 60 or so years ago, you know, despite the procedure being performed nearly a century before that?

Glass house, meet...

[doghousenetwork.com image 500x500]


Mooninites?
 
2012-06-04 01:38:20 PM
It's wrong for children to smoke or see a boobie or hear too many cuss words, yet it is perfectly fine to fill their minds full of hate via some fairy tale book their told is the greatest truth on earth. How about we take a more reasonable approach and ban the organized teaching of religion to children under 18? You can teach them all you want in the privacy of your own home. But, the Good News Club and youth groups and such should not be filling the most impressionable segment of our population with reasons and justifications for violence.
 
2012-06-04 01:47:17 PM

sharpiegreed: I must have missed the meeting about killing your son. Was that last Thursday?


Your support of a group that teaches that gays should be hated and killed is enough. Explicit meetings aren't necessary when the values are implicit to the organization.
 
2012-06-04 02:32:09 PM
Grain o' salt: It's Alternet.
Nice how they didn't bother to interview anyone from Child Evangelism Fellowship, or anyone from the Christian community at large, instead opting to use only quotes from people sharing their decidedly anti-Christian views. Meh.
 
2012-06-04 02:57:17 PM

Bevets: Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Wrong, Einstein. Ever hear of the Cathars? The millions burned at the stake for witchcraft or heresy? Are you that stupid? (I think we all know the answer to that question, shiathead.)
 
2012-06-04 02:58:01 PM

WhyteRaven74: the parable of the good Samaritan [is] not just about being nice to strangers, in the context of its day it was as radical as anything Malcolm X ever imagined saying. It was a declaration against xenophobia...


I'm not saying you're wrong, but I read the parable as even beyond that.

The GS parable was told in answer to a religious lawyer who asked Jesus what defined a "neighbor" in the context of his teaching to "love your neighbor as yourself."

The Samaritans were and are Jewish heretics, required by Jewish law to be ostracized and shunned. (The reason for the schism? A disagreement over which mountain was the site of the burning bush. Seriously.)

I reckon that if Jesus were alive today, to make the same point he'd cast the parable as an injured Christian who is ignored by a passing Pastor and a Bishop, but finally helped by a lesbian atheist who takes him to a hospital and pays his bill.

And he would tell this parable in front of the most hardcore homophobic fundamentalists.

This, of course, would infuriate the religious hypocrites.

Again.

LOL.
 
2012-06-04 03:50:05 PM

sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children.


So you're holding "church for children" inside their taxpayer-financed public schools? Yeah, I have a problem with this.

I see that the article is talking about a lesson in next year's plan, which I have not seen and can't comment on it's accuracy.

Would it make a difference to you if it was true?

The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

So you think preying on the vulnerable and hungry is "amazing"? Wowz. Why not feed the hungry children...without indoctrinating them into your religious fantasies?

These children are not forced to go to club. It is a completely voluntary club. Parents sign permission slips.

So parents can't force kids into this crap? If Junior told you his mom made him attend your brainwashing sessions, as a principled person, you'd permit Junior to sit in a different room and play video games for the duration?

I'm not trying to change any one person's opinion. I just wanted to share my experience.

Without a trace of irony. Ugh.
 
2012-06-04 06:53:50 PM
There is no way this could possibly be... bullshiat? Could it?
 
2012-06-04 07:03:47 PM

A Non Amos: Radiocarbon datingNotice the need for calibration.


Confusing 10,000 years with 5 billion years is not a calibration error. A 5% error is a calibration error. This is a ten million percent error. It is like saying that the distance from New York to LA is about 30 feet.
 
2012-06-04 07:09:53 PM

BronyMedic: Cythraul: I really need to try that ice cream, then.

Ben and Jerries is more delicious than making ICB go full retard in this thread. And that was pretty delicious.


Go full retard? By posting facts with sources that directly address what facts you presented showing you are wrong and I am right? All you can do in response is make up childish banter about my user name and intelligence because you cannot address these facts here:


Even in the later years of the Third Reich, many Protestant and Catholic clergy within Germany persisted in believing that Nazism was in its essence in accordance with Christian precepts.

From the mid 1930s, anti-Christian elements within the Nazi party became more prominent, however they were restrained by Hitler.

A number of historians maintain that the Nazis had a general covert plan, which some argue existed before the Nazis' rose to power,[53] to destroy Christianity within the Reich.[54][55][56][57][58][59][60] To what extent a plan to subordinate the churches and limit their role in the country's life existed before the Nazi rise to power, and exactly who among the Nazi leadership supported such a move remains contested."[53] However other historians maintain no such plan existed

Summarizing a 1945 Office of Strategic Services report, New York Times columnist Joe Sharkey, stated that the Nazis had a plan to "subvert and destroy German Christianity," which was to be accomplished through control and subversion of the churches and to be completed after the war.[65][66] However the report stated this goal was limmited to a "sector of the National Socialist party," namely Alfred Rosenberg and Baldur von Schirach
 
2012-06-04 07:11:04 PM

Pitabred: You do realize that some 90% of the Native Americans were killed by disease before the Europeans started colonizing the Americas?



citation needed
 
2012-06-04 07:14:51 PM

s2s2s2: Adolf didn't bear those fruits, so he wasn't a Christian.



So the Pope who led the Crusades wasn't a Christian either?

Basically nobody is a Christian even if they claim to be because it makes you as a Christian look bad?

Sounds like some strange logic here.

Either take responsibility for your extremists or don't pretend to be part of the club
 
2012-06-04 07:29:26 PM

intelligent comment below: Pitabred: You do realize that some 90% of the Native Americans were killed by disease before the Europeans started colonizing the Americas?

citation needed


Citation provided.
 
2012-06-04 07:52:48 PM
Pitabred: intelligent comment below: Pitabred: You do realize that some 90% of the Native Americans were killed by disease before the Europeans started colonizing the Americas?

citation needed

Citation provided.


He's back for more abuse, I see.
 
2012-06-04 07:59:22 PM
intelligent comment below: Go full retard? By posting facts with sources that directly address what facts you presented showing you are wrong and I am right? All you can do in response is make up childish banter about my user name and intelligence because you cannot address these facts here:

I posted historical citations from the Office of Strategic Services, Rutgers Law, and actual historical research on Hitler's own writings.

You post a wikipedia article and declare victory.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Danth's_Law

Anyone claiming that their opponent's argument is making the opponent look silly or stupid etc, or that they are just digging themselves into a deeper hole, is really concerned that they themselves are being made to look silly, or stupid etc, or have fallen into a deep hole.
 
2012-06-04 08:17:55 PM

BronyMedic: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Danth's_Law

Anyone claiming that their opponent's argument is making the opponent look silly or stupid etc, or that they are just digging themselves into a deeper hole, is really concerned that they themselves are being made to look silly, or stupid etc, or have fallen into a deep hole.


That's not a law, that's a fallacy. Some people really do look and sound moronic for the way they present an argument, and deserve a notice. It's a chance for reform or to correct ignorance(why everyone sees being called ignorant is such an insult is beyond me). It's when it's refuted and they're obviously being obtuse that they legitimately deserve severe mocking. When they simply pull out the I'm rubber and glue argument, it's game over.

After reading the wiki, it's largely a lie in and of itself. Takes skepticism to an unhealthy extreme in the Corollaries section. Stopping only a coonthair short of saying "If it's posted on the net, it's a lie". Which is silly and stupid, but sort of the how the whole article runs, so it's self validating in that regard, but in that regard only.
 
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