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2012-06-04 03:49:13 AM  
Dear God, please save us from your followers.

Seriously, encouraging genocide in the name of the lord? Preaching it to CHILDREN? This is why I disagree with organized religion.
 
2012-06-04 03:52:06 AM  

BronyMedic: I'm an Atheist, and people like you bother me on a base level. And this argument is entire fallacious. It assumes that despite the differences in belief, there are not fundamental principals agreed upon that transcend all of the major "flavors", if you will, of Christianity.


What are these fundamental principles? Which things do the thousands of sects of christianity all agree on?

If I'm a "fundamentalist" then so are people like Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett, Minsky, Harris, Sartre, Fromm, Blackburn, and Russell.

Sorry that I'd rather agree with the beliefs of educated, intelligent people like them instead of the speculations of bronze age goat herders that were added on to by people in the first century and not even written down for 30+ years after this jesus person ,who may not have even existed, was dead.
 
2012-06-04 03:54:09 AM  

BronyMedic: Kali-Yuga: and you be the one who isn't?

Sorry. But this irks me. If someone disagrees with your rabid brand of fundamentalism, and yes - what your frothing on about IS fundamentalism, no different than what's discussed in this article - they have to be Christian? If they disagree with you, and argue from reality complex historical and sociopolitcal issues rather than from some base ignorance and laughable "ALL RELIGIONS ARE THE EVULZ LOL" principal, they're automatically apologists?

I'm an Atheist, and people like you bother me on a base level. And this argument is entire fallacious. It assumes that despite the differences in belief, there are not fundamental principals agreed upon that transcend all of the major "flavors", if you will, of Christianity.

"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Kali-Yuga: I "lump together" all god-botherers regardless of creed as people who would rather persist in a comfortable delusion than accept some of the stark realities of life.

Religious belief is a culturally acceptable mass delusion, and like other mental illnesses, there is a spectrum of severity. One one end of the spectrum you have moderate believers who claim the contradictory parts of their scripture and outright historical and scientific inaccuracies contained within as allegory, and on the other end you have fundamentalist biblical literalists.

Religion is a culturally evolved institution that adopts specific answers to circular questions and establishes authority schemes to indoctrinate people to those beliefs, substituting dogma for reason and truth.
It provides myths to answer real questions, and those myths are protected by their unfalsifiability, threats and promises. The paradoxical idea that a lack of evidence is a positive virtue is self sustaining because it is self-referential, and once a believer has been indoctrina ...


One must wonder why there are "flavors" of Christianity at all. If they all believe in God and the Bible, why are there hundreds of denominations?

It's because man created it, and men like to leave their mark on history. At a Great Council the original church split, creating the Catholic and the Orthodox churches. While the Orthodox side remained whole, the Catholic side splintered and sprouted like a Miracle-Gro-infused weed, birthing Baptists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, and more. Why? Because someone at some point decided that the version of Christianity they were following wasn't "correct" to them or just didn't fit their desire, so they splintered off and altered it and called it something else. And each one altered the Bible to suit their needs, picking the bits they liked and tossing or changing the bits they didn't. Now we have a bunch of branches on a two-trunked tree that's connected at the roots, that being God, and that's practically all that connects them.

And one can, and should, ask: if the believers can't even agree with each other, why should non-believers be interested?
 
2012-06-04 04:08:00 AM  
Kali-Yuga: If I'm a "fundamentalist" then so are people like Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett, Minsky, Harris, Sartre, Fromm, Blackburn, and Russell.

I rest my case. Being brilliant doesn't mean you're not a dick. It also doesn't mean that you're not a fascist, or advocate of fascistic means.

Religion is here to stay. Nothing you do, no amount of ridicule or mouthing off you post on FARK will change that. Humans are wired and evolved religion as their concept of a social animal developed.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-we-born-to-be-re l igious

Kali-Yuga: Sorry that I'd rather agree with the beliefs of educated, intelligent people like them instead of the speculations of bronze age goat herders that were added on to by people in the first century and not even written down for 30+ years after this jesus person ,who may not have even existed, was dead.

I don't care if they believe that God told them to cut off their gentials, and offer them up to Lord Slanaash. As long as they're not forcing their beliefs on anyone, indoctrinating children, using them in the justification of harm or discrimination, or killing anyone in the name of it, it's their basic right as a human being to be free to practice their religion among other like-minded followers.

Keizer_Ghidorah: And one can, and should, ask: if the believers can't even agree with each other, why should non-believers be interested?

Because as an Atheist, both the freedom from religion, and the freedom OF religion, are important concepts to me.
 
2012-06-04 04:24:17 AM  

BronyMedic: I rest my case. Being brilliant doesn't mean you're not a dick. It also doesn't mean that you're not a fascist, or advocate of fascistic means.


No, but statistically speaking, being brilliant means you're probably not very likely to fall victim to the god delusion. There's a reason why the groups with the highest incidence rates of religious belief include the uneducated and those with below average IQ's. Most believers aren't even capable of understanding their own religious texts let alone the writings of someone like Hume or Sartre.

Religion is here to stay. Nothing you do, no amount of ridicule or mouthing off you post on FARK will change that.

"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them" -Thomas Jefferson-

As long as they're not forcing their beliefs on anyone, indoctrinating children, using them in the justification of harm or discrimination, or killing anyone in the name of it

But they are, and have all throughout recorded human history. Which group of people are voting en masse against equal rights for gays? Which group of people are most responsible for the "war on science" and trying to force their creationists beliefs into science classes? Which group of people believe it is their divine right to rule over everyone else?
 
2012-06-04 04:48:24 AM  
In school. When the Chinese finally kick our asses at everything scientific and technological, our economy will still get by on selling the world bibles and prayer beads, right? They'll buy those, won't they?
 
2012-06-04 04:49:47 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: sharpiegreed: The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

Ah, the typical religionist method of preying on the weak, lonely and needy in the hopes they'll eventually buy your line of bull out of gratitude or desperation.


IOW, they're just like the Democrats.
 
2012-06-04 04:50:34 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Bevets: 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

Tell that to these folks:

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I'm sure all those passages in the Bible where God said it was okay to murder every man, woman, and child who lived in the land promised to the Hebrews had NO influence on the various groups of Christians who saw the Americas as their new "promised land".


I thought the founding fathers were Deists
 
2012-06-04 04:53:45 AM  

BronyMedic: Keizer_Ghidorah: And one can, and should, ask: if the believers can't even agree with each other, why should non-believers be interested?

Because as an Atheist, both the freedom from religion, and the freedom OF religion, are important concepts to me.


I'd love to be free from it too, but there's a lot of Christians trying to turn the country into a theocracy, strip people of their rights and freedoms, and force their interpretation of morality into law. A swift kick in the dick is what's needed right now to put these people back in their place.

Wish I had nothing against Christians, but the lunatics are running the asylum and the normal ones aren't doing anything to stop them. I'm all for freedom, too, but how much damage has to be done before self-preservation is more important?
 
2012-06-04 04:58:32 AM  
Kali-Yuga: No, but statistically speaking, being brilliant means you're probably not very likely to fall victim to the god delusion. There's a reason why the groups with the highest incidence rates of religious belief include the uneducated and those with below average IQ's. Most believers aren't even capable of understanding their own religious texts let alone the writings of someone like Hume or Sartre.

Which is not an assertion based on evidence or scientific research.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608001013

Atheists score 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions. Denominations differ significantly in IQ and income. Religiosity declines between ages 12 to 17. It is suggested that IQ makes an individual likely to gravitate toward a denomination and level of achievement that best fit his or hers particular level of cognitive complexity. Ontogenetically speaking this means that contemporary denominations are rank ordered by largely hereditary variations in brain efficiency (i.e. IQ). In terms of evolution, modern Atheists are reacting rationally to cognitive and emotional challenges, whereas Liberals and, in particular Dogmatics, still rely on ancient, pre-rational, supernatural and wishful thinking.

Atheists are not necessarily the ubermensche you make us out to be.

Kali-Yuga: "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them" -Thomas Jefferson-

I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Hopkinson, March 13, 1789

Kali-Yuga: But they are, and have all throughout recorded human history. Which group of people are voting en masse against equal rights for gays? Which group of people are most responsible for the "war on science" and trying to force their creationists beliefs into science classes? Which group of people believe it is their divine right to rule over everyone else?

I'll take the Christian Evangelical, Prosperity, and Dominionist movement for 900, Alex.

Again, this is a fallacious case of "All or none". Along those lines, all Arabs are terrorists, all Shintoists support Japanese Militant Nationalism, and all pagans practice human sacrifice.
 
2012-06-04 05:19:19 AM  

Sabyen91: 100 Watt Walrus: Lionel Mandrake: Fun fact: the vast majority of Germans in the 1930s and 40s were devout Christians!

Fun fact: the vast majority of Germans in the 1930s and '40s weren't Nazis and had little to do with the war or the genocide.

Look, there are a lot of good and easy arguments that can be made against what Bevets said (or really, anything Bevets says), but this one is just stupid.

Actually German citizens knew what was happening.

/Just following orders isn't just something people made up.

Citizens

were "just following orders"? Citizens? Pray tell, what orders were the workaday German citizens following? There was definitely culpability on the part of the German populate, but what religion the "vast majority" of Germans believed in during the Nazi era is hardly a relevant argument for the atrocities performed by their government and military.

Lionel Mandrake: Fun fact: Nazi Party members were every bit as church going as their silent, acquiescent neighbors.


Fun fact: the original post tried to directly equate the religion of "the vast majority of Germans" to acts performed by the Nazis. It doesn't wash.
 
2012-06-04 05:20:28 AM  

sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children. They have a meal, sing bible songs, have a basic bible lesson (like the Good Samaritan), play games for small prizes, memorize a bible verse, and have a story about a missionary.

In no way, shape, or form should there be anything else going on. It is no different than traditonal Vacation Bible School or Sunday School.

I see that the article is talking about a lesson in next year's plan, which I have not seen and can't comment on it's accuracy.

Just because some Christians are crazy and fanatical doesn't mean every Christian is crazy and fanatical.

I did not convert to Christianity until I was 30 years old. I have been on both sides of the fence and both sides have ridiculous assumptions about the other.

The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

These children are not forced to go to club. It is a completely voluntary club. Parents sign permission slips. If you have any earnest questions about my experience with the Good News Club , EIP.

I'm not trying to change any one person's opinion. I just wanted to share my experience.


Why aren't they being held in churches then?
 
2012-06-04 05:22:01 AM  

dennysgod: As Christians aren't they supposed to be follow the New Covenant, the one with Christ, the one that advocate peace, love and forgiveness as the path to eternal life and teaching this message to the youth and non-believers.

The Old Testament is supposed to be a reminder of what the "chosen ones" had to go though in order to be worthy of the New Covenant.


Yeah, having to slaughter helpless women and children because your priests told you to can give a guy serious PTSD.
 
2012-06-04 05:27:39 AM  

Kali-Yuga: There's a reason why the groups with the highest incidence rates of religious belief include the uneducated and those with below average IQ's.


Interestingly, this may not be the result of the less intelligent being more susceptible to religiosity but of the more intelligent being more likely to pursue novel positions. Not to mention religion is generally a familial meme, and the less educated someone is the more learning done with the family, which is rather stagnate knowledge; exposure to new ideas and less use of the family for learning may be big reasons.

Basically, being intelligent is less having a kevlar vest and more having quick feet to the bullet of religion. Not sure how sensical the analogy was, but I like it.
 
2012-06-04 05:32:31 AM  
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What could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-06-04 05:33:56 AM  

BronyMedic: Which is not an assertion based on evidence or scientific research.


And yet your own citation says that atheists do have higher IQ's and the religious "rely on ancient, pre-rational, supernatural and wishful thinking."

I'll take the Christian Evangelical, Prosperity, and Dominionist movement for 900, Alex.

And the Pew report says that evangelicals comprise 26.3% of religious believers in America, "historically black" churches comprise 6.9%, catholics 23.9%, and mormons 1.7%. All of these groups believe in one or more of the movements you mention and are actively working to do the things you mention as unacceptable to you when it comes to religious people.

This leaves ~24% of religious believers in America that can be considered moderate or mainline churches, so I think we can safely say the majority of religious people in America are actively hindering the advancement of mankind, or at the very least doing nothing to stop it.
 
2012-06-04 06:24:38 AM  

A Non Amos: What the scientific method cannot be applied to, and what cannot be studied at present, must be guessed at, thus making it a philosophy.


This is the demarcation problem. It's nothing new and it does not invalidate the scientific process nor suddenly turn evidence, measurement, experiment and rigor into the equivalent of a philosophical musings. At best, you could say that the hazy boundary between science and non science must be guessed at, but, again, that doesn't invalidate the vast, vast majority of scientific findings nor make it the equivalent of guessing.

Or, as Feynman put it, "Philosophy of science is as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds."
 
2012-06-04 06:39:33 AM  

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Bullshiat. Christians have engaged in genocide in the past. It certainly looks like some segments of the Christian population think of the past as "good times".
 
2012-06-04 06:42:45 AM  
Kali-Yuga: This leaves ~24% of religious believers in America that can be considered moderate or mainline churches, so I think we can safely say the majority of religious people in America are actively hindering the advancement of mankind, or at the very least doing nothing to stop it.

I'm curious to hear your proposition for solving this.

I wonder how close it'll be to the way they want to treat the non-believers.
 
2012-06-04 06:51:31 AM  
What a load of bigoted, spun, histrionic crap.
 
2012-06-04 06:59:57 AM  

Bevets: 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


"All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested. O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if you do not aid those who, with us, profess the Christian religion! Let those who have been accustomed unjustly to wage private warfare against the faithful now go against the infidels and end with victory this war which should have been begun long ago. Let those who for a long time, have been robbers, now become knights. Let those who have been fighting against their brothers and relatives now fight in a proper way against the barbarians. Let those who have been serving as mercenaries for small pay now obtain the eternal reward. Let those who have been wearing themselves out in both body and soul now work for a double honor. Behold! on this side will be the sorrowful and poor, on that, the rich; on this side, the enemies of the Lord, on that, his friends. Let those who go not put off the journey, but rent their lands and collect money for their expenses; and as soon as winter is over and spring comes, let hem eagerly set out on the way with God as their guide."

- Pope Urban II's Speech at the Council of Clermont.
 
2012-06-04 07:07:46 AM  
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/oh noes -- teh christians are going to kill us all.
 
2012-06-04 07:15:41 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: this fundamental tenant?


I don't rent to fundamentalists.
 
2012-06-04 07:17:57 AM  

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Kill them all, let God sort them out

/Yeah yeah, feeding the troll
 
2012-06-04 07:18:35 AM  
Rueened:

Why aren't they being held in churches then?

It's called recruitment. For the same reason that the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, GLAAD, 4H, or any other group holds an after-hours meeting in the public schools. You go where the kids are.

As far as I'm concerned, if they are following the rules, then they have as every right to be there as the Atheist society. The school has a responsibility to be aware of the program lesson plan and inform parents accordingly. After that, leave it up to the children to think critically about what they are being taught.
 
2012-06-04 07:24:41 AM  

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Can you not read? Or are you perhaps hard of thinking?

Paraphrasing the Old Testament scripture I Samuel 15:2-3, the Child Evangelism Fellowship's new lesson plan teaches, "You are to go and completely destroy the Amalekites (AM-uh-leck-ites) - people, animals, every living thing. Nothing shall be left." The manual then instructs the teacher to tell students, "That was pretty clear, wasn't it?" Stewart continues

You would have to be thick as pig shiat not to get the inference in this. Or do you, my fine feathered friend, approve of this sort of thing?
 
fdr
2012-06-04 07:28:24 AM  

Bevets: Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Is there a button for Dumb?
 
2012-06-04 07:33:02 AM  

fdr: Bevets: Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

Is there a button for Dumb?


That's like asking if there's a "Dislike" button...
 
2012-06-04 07:50:47 AM  

Sabyen91: A Non Amos: Thank you for that, Bevets. I'm tired of setting firestorms around here. Frankly, I think I've already had my say. After all, it's not like anyone gives a damn.

Are you farking stoned? You thanked Bevets and then said you are sick of firestorms?


No, I thanked Bevets for setting the firestorm. I've figured out it's pointless getting offended by the illogical moron majority here on Fark. Although some folks have a good point- I'm going to put in my profile later today why the Bible couldn't have been edited down to us.

*HaHaHAJAJA!! BURNNNN! 'The firestorm rages out of control into a snarling twister of flaming carnage. All sane Farkers stay well back with lawn chairs and popcorn until the blaze settles.'
 
2012-06-04 08:02:56 AM  

sharpiegreed: I am a Good News Club volunteer.
If followed correctly, it is simply church for children. They have a meal, sing bible songs, have a basic bible lesson (like the Good Samaritan), play games for small prizes, memorize a bible verse, and have a story about a missionary.

In no way, shape, or form should there be anything else going on. It is no different than traditonal Vacation Bible School or Sunday School.

I see that the article is talking about a lesson in next year's plan, which I have not seen and can't comment on it's accuracy.

Just because some Christians are crazy and fanatical doesn't mean every Christian is crazy and fanatical.

I did not convert to Christianity until I was 30 years old. I have been on both sides of the fence and both sides have ridiculous assumptions about the other.

The most amazing part of the Good News Club for me is that I know for alot of kids, the meal we serve them is the only decent food they will get for the rest of the day and sometimes the praise and attention we give is all they will get outside of the classroom. Sometimes including the classroom.

These children are not forced to go to club. It is a completely voluntary club. Parents sign permission slips. If you have any earnest questions about my experience with the Good News Club , EIP.

I'm not trying to change any one person's opinion. I just wanted to share my experience.


Can you explain why they're not held in a church? It's not as if there is a lack of churches anywhere in the US. What justification can you provide that requires the use of secular, civil facilities?

If a non-believer brought their kids for the meal and not the service, would you turn them away? If so, how can you reconcile that with your core beliefs?
 
2012-06-04 08:11:05 AM  

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


Hello Bevets, still full of it I see
 
2012-06-04 08:20:58 AM  
Two funny things in this thread:

People still respond to Bevets like it's a real person

Other people have tried to troll this thread after the master troll bot already wrecked it.
 
2012-06-04 08:21:11 AM  

Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.


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2012-06-04 08:24:26 AM  

BeerBear: Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

Hello Bevets, still full of it I see


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2012-06-04 08:24:37 AM  

Sabyen91: A Non Amos: Thank you for that, Bevets. I'm tired of setting firestorms around here. Frankly, I think I've already had my say. After all, it's not like anyone gives a damn.

Are you farking stoned? You thanked Bevets and then said you are sick of firestorms?


It's only fair, since I'm sick of A Non Amos.

/your color is yellow 3
//just like Bevy and meow
///that color is for annoying twats
 
2012-06-04 08:25:09 AM  
What a brilliant idea...now I can use this the next time some birther, 'the A-rabs took our jerbs' mouth-breather wants to spout off about how Islam is a religion of the sword and instructs its followers to kill all non-believers.
 
2012-06-04 08:33:41 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: This is what happens when you let the gay-straight alliances into schools. Once you do that, you have to let other clubs in.


It's that ol' slippery slope we've been warned about.
Some would have you believe it leads to men marrying turtles, but it really leads to death camps led by children.
 
2012-06-04 08:35:15 AM  

Kali-Yuga: WhyteRaven74: The easiest answer is, does it follow with what Jesus taught? Jesus was rather unequivocal when it came to how people should live and treat each other.

So what percentage of the people who claim to be christians are "real christians" in your opinion?


According to the bible, only "a remnant" would be true to the faith. Also, lots of people who don't identify as Christians will receive the rewards for living in a Christian way. I'd say most who identify as Christian are not. The parable of the sheep vs goats covers this pretty well.
 
2012-06-04 08:37:58 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Well, it's only fair, given all the atheist and agnostic organizations that teach their children to kill Christians.

Right?

Because radical atheists are much worse than radical Christians.

Right?


You know, when you are willfully ignorant of things that happened less than 100 years ago, you're discrediting all of us atheists.

Do a little reading and see how Pol Pot dealt with religious practitioners and learn about Mao Zedong's Four Olds campaign or the USSR Anti-Religous Campaigns.

Radical atheists slaughtered millions attempting to instill government-forced atheism in the 20th century. Trying to paint all Christians with the genocide brush because of acts that took place hundreds of years ago makes even less sense than trying to paint all atheists with the genocide brush because of acts that took place a few decades ago.
 
2012-06-04 08:38:08 AM  

Boatmech: BeerBear: Bevets: "Good News" clubs teach children in public schools the Biblical importance of killing all non believers

This headline is full of fail. 1) For the Secular Fundamentalist: these clubs are not held during school hours. They are held after hours when the general public has access to public schools. 2) Christians have been around for nearly two thousand years and have not engaged in genocide.

Hello Bevets, still full of it I see

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still think Bevets no longer a human and is sort of spambot that comes in on religion threads to post BS
 
2012-06-04 08:39:11 AM  
Hey!

All those posts and no one has posted "Invisible sky wizard with a zombie son" yet.

Isn't it against the rules not to post that in a thread about Christianity?
 
2012-06-04 08:41:16 AM  

BronyMedic: You know, for someone who supposedly ignored me, someone's raging pretty hard.

At this point, I'd like to take a break in the thread to plug Ben And Jerry's coffee Heath Bar Crunch ice cream.

This stuff is awesome. Each bite is like the tears of impotent rage in this thread.


I prefer their new Chocolate Therapy flavor. Chocolate ice cream with lots of crunchy chocolate cookie pieces (like Oreos) and swirls of creamy chocolate pudding. It's so damn good, I want to f*ck the living shiat out of Ben & Jerry just for making it.
 
2012-06-04 08:45:18 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: BronyMedic: You know, for someone who supposedly ignored me, someone's raging pretty hard.

At this point, I'd like to take a break in the thread to plug Ben And Jerry's coffee Heath Bar Crunch ice cream.

This stuff is awesome. Each bite is like the tears of impotent rage in this thread.

I prefer their new Chocolate Therapy flavor. Chocolate ice cream with lots of crunchy chocolate cookie pieces (like Oreos) and swirls of creamy chocolate pudding. It's so damn good, I want to f*ck the living shiat out of Ben & Jerry just for making it.


Are they your type? Or is it just THAT good?
 
2012-06-04 08:47:14 AM  
If a private group wants host a voluntary after-school activity for students, then whether or not it is religious is irrelevant. It must be accorded space by the exact same rules as other organization.

Have all the religious clubs you want so long as the chess club, the D&D club, etc. can also meet on the same terms.

However if they go ahead and teach kids that it is okay to kill then they have violated the rules -- I am quite sure that advocating illegal activity is a violation of the rules. Thus it becomes legit to subject them to the same penalty as anyone else.
 
2012-06-04 08:51:56 AM  
I might add, that if the club is kicked out advocating illegal killings then if they choose to bring it to court then it will just bring a lot of attention to the barbaric passages in the Bible. They should be careful what they wish for. Indeed they might just turn off a lot of kids.
 
2012-06-04 08:55:17 AM  
When I was in my late teens, there was a new movement of gay outreach to public high schools in my town.
I was lead to believe, by the church, that this was a recruitment tool. I was skeptical. Then, I met a gay guy that worked in the program. He came to the table of the cafe I was having lunch at, and tried to convince me I was gay for about half an hour. Suddenly I had reason to believe this program was, in fact, recruitment. Then I decided judging the whole program based on what I was able to perceive of it was probably fncking stupid.
 
2012-06-04 08:56:15 AM  

Valiente: My solution, not necessarily final:

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I know its a joke, but...

a) Children shouldn't have to suffer for their parents' idiocy.
b) The unvaccinated can be carriers that infect those whose vaccinations didn't take, wore off or have yet to be vaccinated.
 
2012-06-04 09:01:57 AM  

Cythraul: FuryOfFirestorm: BronyMedic: You know, for someone who supposedly ignored me, someone's raging pretty hard.

At this point, I'd like to take a break in the thread to plug Ben And Jerry's coffee Heath Bar Crunch ice cream.

This stuff is awesome. Each bite is like the tears of impotent rage in this thread.

I prefer their new Chocolate Therapy flavor. Chocolate ice cream with lots of crunchy chocolate cookie pieces (like Oreos) and swirls of creamy chocolate pudding. It's so damn good, I want to f*ck the living shiat out of Ben & Jerry just for making it.

Are they your type? Or is it just THAT good?


Well, i'm not into 60 year old hippies, so I'll go with the latter option.
 
2012-06-04 09:02:36 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: It should be considered child abuse to force religion on children.


and

Vangor: Oh you people. I wish there was a God so he could remind you with lightning lying is wrong.


How's that bumper sticker go? "God Save Me From Your Believers."

I'd say we are a good 700 years past the need of religion to sooth us in our lack of understanding of the Universe.
 
2012-06-04 09:03:17 AM  
s2s2s2: When I was in my late teens, there was a new movement of gay outreach to public high schools in my town.
I was lead to believe, by the church, that this was a recruitment tool. I was skeptical. Then, I met a gay guy that worked in the program. He came to the table of the cafe I was having lunch at, and tried to convince me I was gay for about half an hour. Suddenly I had reason to believe this program was, in fact, recruitment. Then I decided judging the whole program based on what I was able to perceive of it was probably fncking stupid.


I hear that every time they convert a straight, God-fearing republican man, they get a free toaster.
 
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