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(UPI)   THIS is what's wrong with public education. Teacher brainwashes third-graders into pushing his agenda through city council   (upi.com) divider line 85
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2012-06-03 04:58:17 PM
Really?
 
2012-06-03 05:03:01 PM
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2012-06-03 05:10:01 PM
Yes, because teaching future voters any kind of public advocacy skills is evil.
 
2012-06-03 05:12:57 PM
But pushing religion into education is a good thing, right Subby?
 
2012-06-03 05:13:38 PM
Typical indoctrination...

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2012-06-03 05:24:58 PM
If any of your neighbors start raising chickens, that's when you realize just how bad this idea truly is.

Roosters don't just crow at dawn in the country.
 
2012-06-03 05:27:06 PM
It's a slippery slope people!
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/hot like my stock pot right now
//bonus: chicken lady meets rooster boy
 
2012-06-03 05:30:14 PM
Subby, next time you feel like trying to make a point; lie down and take a nap instead. Thanks.
 
2012-06-03 05:30:32 PM
MeinRS6: If any of your neighbors start raising chickens, that's when you realize just how bad this idea truly is.

Roosters don't just crow at dawn in the country.


Not having roosters is no guarantee, either.

Can't say I care, I'd like to have my own fresh eggs and handy meat source myself. Trouble would be with the folks who didn't take care of the mess.
 
2012-06-03 05:31:11 PM
MeinRS6: If any of your neighbors start raising chickens, that's when you realize just how bad this idea truly is.

Roosters don't just crow at dawn in the country.


RTFA, it was to allow HENS, not roosters. It's a distinction often made in urban livestock. Nice quiet hens.
 
2012-06-03 05:35:10 PM
MeinRS6: If any of your neighbors start raising chickens, that's when you realize just how bad this idea truly is.

Roosters don't just crow at dawn in the country.


For a while, my next door neighbors kept chickens (with at least one rooster).
I was tempted daily to firebomb their house.

I don't think this allows for roosters, though.
 
2012-06-03 05:51:26 PM
They are just preparing for the end of the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency. A time when we will be growing most of our food and using our feces as fertilizer. God willing.
 
2012-06-03 05:55:37 PM
I think some are taking subby too seriously here.
 
2012-06-03 05:58:08 PM
NewportBarGuy: They are just preparing for the end of the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency. A time when we will be growing most of our food and using our feces as fertilizer. God willing.

There is a book on that. It's called "The humanure handbook". Better start reading up (free on the interwebs). (although to be fair it is about composting feces not using it directly as fertilizer)
 
2012-06-03 06:17:04 PM
MeinRS6: If any of your neighbors start raising chickens, that's when you realize just how bad this idea truly is.

Roosters don't just crow at dawn in the country.


Now who's, I say who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person!
 
2012-06-03 06:21:35 PM
Subby wanted to be outraged about something today, and this was the best he could come up with.
 
2012-06-03 06:24:06 PM
I'm sure the children are very well informed on the subject and the teacher isn't a complete dick.
 
2012-06-03 06:25:52 PM
Raising chickens in a residential neighborhood?

Meh, I'm okay with this as long as the numbers allowed are realistic.

/Got no beef with chickens.

A teacher utilizing his third grade class's letter writing campaign to help overturn the ordinance making chicken raising illegal is one of those grey areas. In this instance I can approve, in other instances maybe not so much.
 
2012-06-03 06:26:02 PM
MeinRS6: If any of your neighbors start raising chickens, that's when you realize just how bad this idea truly is.

Roosters don't just crow at dawn in the country.


I once had neighbors who kept chickens (I was once threatened by a big black cock, wakka wakka) - back ages ago when I lived in the sticks.

Truthfully I prefer the roosters versus the endless parade of f*cking taxi cabs my neighbor has honking outside their apartment.

/seriously, just get a car already
 
2012-06-03 06:26:04 PM
Won't someone please think of the children chickens?
 
2012-06-03 06:32:12 PM
Listen you farking hippy/hipster morons: If you want to raise livestock, MOVE TO THE COUNTRY! That's what the country is for. There's lots of space for a compost heap and you can get one of those goats that tips over when it's scared and you won't believe what a "fix-er-up" two-story, turn-of-the-century Victorian is going for. You can spend all day drinking Old Milwaukee and playing washers and no one will make fun of you at all.
 
2012-06-03 06:33:08 PM
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Soon.
 
2012-06-03 06:35:51 PM
quatchi: A teacher utilizing his third grade class's letter writing campaign to help overturn the ordinance making chicken raising illegal is one of those grey areas.

Depends on who put forth the idea of letter writing. The teacher taught them about chickens and almost assuredly mentioned the law, but I have no issue if one of the students began the civil action idea. Leading them to do this is alright, but telling them to start a letter writing campaign or otherwise urge the city council to overturn the law is inappropriate.
 
2012-06-03 06:36:37 PM
Ambivalence: Yes, because teaching future voters any kind of public advocacy skills is evil.

Since it's chickens, I'd have to agree with subby on this one. This is definitely evil.
 
2012-06-03 06:36:59 PM
Subby, I wish I could apologize for GAT_00's, Ambivalence's, FloydA's and other fails here....

I think the headline and the teacher and his class are A+.
 
2012-06-03 06:40:16 PM
I_Am_Weasel: I think some are taking subby too seriously here.
 
2012-06-03 06:40:22 PM
Urban bee keeping and hens are pretty popular and an inexpensive source of eggs and honey. You want to reduce obesity? Encourage people to understand and produce a small amount of it on their own.
 
2012-06-03 06:41:40 PM
I want a hedgehog. And it's 100% legal where I live to own one, but you need a permit, and the non-elected officials at Fish and Game refuse to issue the permits they have the legal mandate to issue.

So the elected representatives say sure, but they are overruled by non-elected bureaucrats.

I understand the non-elected bureaucrats probably have legitimate concerns, but I think the way it is handled with a bureaucratic veto is repellent and obnoxious and not conducive to good government or representative democracy.

Anyway I want a hedgehog.

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2012-06-03 06:45:36 PM
Sounds like the kids made quite the coup for these chickens.
 
2012-06-03 06:46:11 PM
Of course, because this sort of thing would *never* happen in a private school, right?
 
2012-06-03 06:47:08 PM
This kid should be able to identify and throw rocks at the gays at his age.

Yet, he's still farking with chickens.
 
2012-06-03 06:48:08 PM
RoyBatty: I want a hedgehog. And it's 100% legal where I live to own one, but you need a permit, and the non-elected officials at Fish and Game refuse to issue the permits they have the legal mandate to issue.

So the elected representatives say sure, but they are overruled by non-elected bureaucrats.

I understand the non-elected bureaucrats probably have legitimate concerns, but I think the way it is handled with a bureaucratic veto is repellent and obnoxious and not conducive to good government or representative democracy.

Anyway I want a hedgehog.

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Why won't they give you a hedgehog? Is it because under "Purpose for license" you wrote: "Non-sexual. No really, non-sexual. I swear, I'll even take a lie detector test."
 
2012-06-03 06:49:16 PM
MayoSlather: Sounds like the kids made quite the coup for these chickens.

Just couldn't help yourself, could ya?

*golf clap*
 
2012-06-03 06:51:22 PM
FloydA: Subby, next time you feel like trying to make a point; lie down and take a nap instead. Thanks.

I'm pretty sure the vehemence expressed thereof was tongue-in-beak.
 
2012-06-03 06:56:02 PM
you aren't gonna feed that hedgehog light bulbs are ya?

/now watch this drive
 
2012-06-03 06:57:03 PM
MayoSlather: Sounds like the kids made quite the coup for these chickens.

"Coup" is pronounced "coo" and this about chickens, not doves.
 
2012-06-03 06:59:46 PM
fusillade762: Of course, because this sort of thing would *never* happen in a private school, right?

Are you kidding??? Those kids have their own lobbyists.
 
2012-06-03 07:00:31 PM
BarkingUnicorn: MayoSlather: Sounds like the kids made quite the coup for these chickens.

"Coup" is pronounced "coo" and this about chickens, not doves.


Chickens can't spell.
 
2012-06-03 07:00:34 PM
Chickens are farking disgusting. You will get nasty infections just from looking at used chicken wire.
 
2012-06-03 07:00:34 PM
The teacher was egging them on.

It was fowl.

He should go to the pen.

Self-destruct button.
 
2012-06-03 07:00:55 PM
Gyrfalcon: Why won't they give you a hedgehog? Is it because under "Purpose for license" you wrote: "Non-sexual. No really, non-sexual. I swear, I'll even take a lie detector test"


Arizona
The restrictions in AZ are rather bizarre. African Pygmy hedgehogs are 'officially' legal, but Arizona Game & Fish Department will only allow keepers to have hedgehogs if you can first meet certain housing and other requirements. The requirements that they stipulate are virtually impossible for even large, accredited zoos to meet. As a result, there is little chance that the average person will be allowed to keep a hedgehog within the state.


It might have something to do with the petition which I think has some unfortunate wording.

Petition online: Legalize Hedgehog Ownership in Arizona

They love to play in tunnels, and mazes. Even something as simple as a toilet paper tube will make a good toy; as they love to stick their heads in them and run about. They can become very affectionate with their owners and will even enjoying just snuggling in your lap.
 
2012-06-03 07:03:02 PM
Snapper Carr: Soon.

I told you, he's a giant chicken!
 
2012-06-03 07:06:09 PM
Ah yes. I remember when I was a kid, around that same age, my mom and dad were going through a divorce. Any time I pointed out to my dad as to what an epic douche he was, he would accuse my mother of brainwashing me. Apparently children are incapable of forming coherent thoughts, ideas, or opinions until they are -- what, I don't know, teenagers? No longer children all together?
 
2012-06-03 07:22:47 PM
I am outraged at this pro-chicken agenda being pushed in taxpayer funded schools. What's next, biology? RON PAUL
 
2012-06-03 07:25:29 PM
actually the problem with public education is cost vs. results.
 
2012-06-03 07:26:02 PM
Subby here. Thanks to those who noticed my "Amusing" tag.

Also, thanks to those who didn't, for the giggles you gave me. :)

Actually, I do believe this a relatively benign but very blatant example of how teachers can abuse their influence over kids. The teacher raises chickens, so we can assume he's a chicken fan. He taught the students selective information: chickens can feed other students, but there's no mention of roosters and chicken smells. He "said he had his students write letters to urge council members to approve chicken-raising."

Had he left the topic of a letter-writing campaign entirely to the third-graders, I doubt they would have come up with chickens. It's evident to me that the teacher manipulated these kids to further his own agenda.

Of course, it could have happened in a private school, too. But it didn't.

I think the city council should have responded with its own letter outlining the reasons for the chicken ban, and just told the kids "No. Better luck next time."
 
2012-06-03 07:26:17 PM
Zappa interview about censorship

Reminds me of that Frank Zappa interview on Crossfire where he said, after being asked what he would advise young people to do, suggested that they should run for public office or at the very least get involved in the system. His opponent, of course, scoffed at the idea. Can't find the exact moment now, but the interview is worth watching, IMO
 
2012-06-03 07:37:09 PM
Ambivalence: Nice quiet hens

Seriously?
 
2012-06-03 07:37:35 PM
It's sad when even Farkers are so terribly, terribly naive....
 
2012-06-03 07:38:23 PM
Backyard gardening and chicken raising is spreading like crazy, even close around Boston. We've been vegetable gardening for a few years now, and the yield you can get from a small yard is amazing. The quality of the produce is far beyond what you get at the market, and you don't have to pay the obscene prices for organic produce at Whole Foods. We're working on our town to allow hens. Fresh eggs from the backyard every morning would be wonderful.

No matter what all of the experts want us to do about the economy, Americans are getting smarter with their money. The crazy drunken spending on credit days are over, adjust to the new reality.

backyardchicks.com (not a porn site)
 
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