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2012-06-03 12:28:50 PM
4 votes:

fickle floridian: I wonder if Mara would deep-throat a penis of cheese.


See, I look at what teens today wear, and how they act, and I think "WTF are their parents doing?" And apparently the answer is "absofarkinglutely nothing". If that was written on my daughter's wall, she'd have been painting it within an hour, and discussing boarding schools in VERY remote locations the hour after that.
2012-06-03 03:17:57 PM
2 votes:
Hiba, Shatila Palestinian refugee camp, Beirut, 2010
"I stopped going to school to learn hairdressing. I don't want to work. I am engaged to get married. I said yes and I will learn to love him. He is nice to me. I will get veiled when I get married."


Damn. I know it's very common around the world, still...
2012-06-03 12:33:08 PM
2 votes:

dahmers love zombie: If that was written on my daughter's wall, she'd have been painting it within an hour, and discussing boarding schools in VERY remote locations the hour after that.


Did I farking stutter? She already said she would NEVER do that. Isn't that what you want to hear? Or are you one of those mandatory 'deep-throat a piece of cheese' kind of parents who think everybody needs to live life your way? Let me tell you something buster, not everyone finds cheese that appetizing. Nor should they. That's the beauty of life: everyone has a different vision of their perfect world. And that's OK.
2012-06-03 06:07:15 PM
1 votes:

Enigmamf: WhyteRaven74: Nuclear Monk: no...it's about writing on the walls. That habit should've been nipped in the bud when she was three.

Why? It's her room, and it's not like it's hard to get rid of when the time comes. Hell odds are she'll get rid of it herself before long.

Because kids should be made to felt insecure and subservient. Otherwise, how do they know their place?

/sarcasm


Kids are supposed to be subservient. That isn't to say that they shouldn't be given room for personal expression, that their ideas and input shouldn't be taken into account, or that they should have no control of their own lives, but parents need to set boundaries in which all of those things take place. Parents need to use their own life experience and wisdom to provide structure and guidance to their kids who haven't had the chance to fully develop those experiences or critical thinking skills yet.

As far as that pertains to decorating a room, I suppose it would be a judgment call for each family how much freedom is allowed. Personally, I think that sexually explicit graffiti is stepping over the line. It doesn't mean that the parent needs to go into a heavy handed 'my house, my rules' speech, but it could be a good opening for a discussion about respect for personal property and that of others. It could also be useful for teaching how a public image like that effects how you will be viewed by others, and what first impressions they will have. Posing for a nationally released photo like that in front of sexually suggestive missives isn't that far off from posting drunken or sexual antics in skimpy clothes on facebook, which later in life can have real consequences when it comes to employment.
2012-06-03 05:40:34 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: Nuclear Monk: no...it's about writing on the walls. That habit should've been nipped in the bud when she was three.

Why? It's her room, and it's not like it's hard to get rid of when the time comes. Hell odds are she'll get rid of it herself before long.


Because kids should be made to felt insecure and subservient. Otherwise, how do they know their place?

/sarcasm
2012-06-03 05:22:04 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: BigJake: For once in your life just shut the fark up

It's so cute how utterly insecure some people are. Like you.

Nuclear Monk: no...it's about writing on the walls. That habit should've been nipped in the bud when she was three.

Why? It's her room, and it's not like it's hard to get rid of when the time comes. Hell odds are she'll get rid of it herself before long.


Why? Because while there is value in letting kids partake in decorating their room, it should be accompanied by lessons in design and respect for property. A juvenile sex joke written in crayon on a wall is no more 'self expressed creativity' than a facefull of piercingly and a chin tattoo is to 'individuality'.

Providing guidance and limits is as important an aspect to raising a kid as giving them freedom. Too much of either side is bad, and this particular case is an example.
2012-06-03 05:03:57 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: Cause painting a room once they leave is sooo hard. I had a bunch of friends back in high school who got to paint their rooms however they wanted, do pretty much anything they wanted to their rooms. Why? Cause, it's just paint/marker/whatever. It's not they're putting in a new window. Also the parents never pulled the "my house" crap, it was the family's house and each member had a place in it.


For once in your life just shut the fark up
2012-06-03 04:11:58 PM
1 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: phrenicmonkey: Hiba, Shatila Palestinian refugee camp, Beirut, 2010
"I stopped going to school to learn hairdressing. I don't want to work. I am engaged to get married. I said yes and I will learn to love him. He is nice to me. I will get veiled when I get married."

Damn. I know it's very common around the world, still...

When you think of how horribly most marriages turn out in the west, we really can't judge.


Yup, I can judge. I'll make my own dumb mistakes, my parents can make their own. And marriage in her world denotes ownership, not partnership.
/As a man, I don't see the point in marriage. But go ahead if you gotta.
2012-06-03 04:05:58 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: Ahh, to be nineteen again... or to sleep with someone who is.


The wife and i had a threesome with a nineteen year old a couple years ago. I discovered then I'd rather have sex with someone that knows what the fark they're doing.
2012-06-03 03:55:46 PM
1 votes:

Somacandra: I'm willing to bet 99% of this thread's readers have never even thought about young girls trying to make their way towards their own identity while growing up in successive generations of Palestinian refugee camps, much less actually seen a young person's bedroom in such a place. For that reason alone this thread will be a good thing.

[i.imgur.com image 250x387]

Essential "fiction" reading for anyone wanting to understand the dilemma of a young person in a Palestinian camp.


Yes there have been genocides and much suffering in the world. In my opinion, raising the education and literacy level of your own country is the ultimate solution. I've seen ads about starving children in Africa since I was a kid and there are still starving people in Africa because the majority of people there are ignorant and uneducated. And we continue to elect incompetent leaders here in the United States because most Americans are functionally illiterate. I had to send my daughters to private schools to ensure they would be successful in life but most people aren't able to do that. If people really cared about the daughters in the world they would ensure they were properly educated and prepared for life.
2012-06-03 03:50:09 PM
1 votes:

The_Gallant_Gallstone: walkerhound: I'm going to need some more information before I make up my mind.

I was hoping she was just a hard-core lesbian.


Only a guy would think that from looking at that room. Very few women (in my personal experience, and verified by the culture at large) like to decorate their space with photos of guys. What do you see on the cover of magazines meant to appeal to (straight) men? Attractive women. What do you see on the cover of magazines meant to appeal to women? Attractive women.
2012-06-03 03:44:34 PM
1 votes:
sooo... where are the non-pretty girls?

you know, the non-photogenic ones?

yeah, that's what I thought.
2012-06-03 03:33:28 PM
1 votes:

phrenicmonkey: Hiba, Shatila Palestinian refugee camp, Beirut, 2010
"I stopped going to school to learn hairdressing. I don't want to work. I am engaged to get married. I said yes and I will learn to love him. He is nice to me. I will get veiled when I get married."

Damn. I know it's very common around the world, still...


Her problem is she hasn't been brainwashed by Disney's fairy tales and Rom-Com movies.

/sarcasm.
2012-06-03 03:17:19 PM
1 votes:
The girls I see here in Rania Matar's pictures look so brave to me. They are brave in their selfhood, which they might not even know they are showing so boldly.

Want to know what keeps women down?

/this kind of bullshiat
2012-06-03 12:37:56 PM
1 votes:
I'm willing to bet 99% of this thread's readers have never even thought about young girls trying to make their way towards their own identity while growing up in successive generations of Palestinian refugee camps, much less actually seen a young person's bedroom in such a place. For that reason alone this thread will be a good thing.

i.imgur.com

Essential "fiction" reading for anyone wanting to understand the dilemma of a young person in a Palestinian camp.
2012-06-03 12:37:10 PM
1 votes:

Somacandra: dahmers love zombie: If that was written on my daughter's wall, she'd have been painting it within an hour, and discussing boarding schools in VERY remote locations the hour after that.

Did I farking stutter? She already said she would NEVER do that. Isn't that what you want to hear? Or are you one of those mandatory 'deep-throat a piece of cheese' kind of parents who think everybody needs to live life your way? Let me tell you something buster, not everyone finds cheese that appetizing. Nor should they. That's the beauty of life: everyone has a different vision of their perfect world. And that's OK.


Ah, but look again -- it's clearly KATE who placed that statement on Mara's wall. For all we know, Mara will take cheese penii and edam right down the the base on a daily basis. I'd see it as, perhaps, a warning from Kate to Mara's uninvolved parents, that she's making the rounds, and by now there's no telling how many of them she's bleu.

Besides, my larger concern is the other statement. As everyone knows, Dave's ass is saggy, like a half-filled sack of Canadian milk.
m3h
2012-06-03 12:26:25 PM
1 votes:

fickle floridian: deep-throat a penis of cheese.


I have no idea what this means. What is a penis of cheese?
 
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