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(New York Daily News)   Human barcoding: Coming to an Isle near you   (nydailynews.com) divider line 99
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2012-06-03 08:52:21 AM
I have no tattoos or piercings. Why would I want a barcode or implanted chip?
 
2012-06-03 08:52:26 AM
The mark of the beach?
 
2012-06-03 08:52:31 AM
Welcome to the Police state Comrade: May we take your number and ID as we put you through the processing center.
 
2012-06-03 08:52:37 AM
Apocalyptic Christians rambling on about the mark of the Beast in three... two... go

::grabs popcorn::
 
2012-06-03 08:52:50 AM
I'm Not Sure. . .

/Why come you don't have a tattoo?
 
2012-06-03 08:55:24 AM
Marketing for the new Hitman is really getting out of control.
 
2012-06-03 09:01:46 AM
cache.io9.com
 
2012-06-03 09:03:49 AM
images.buddytv.com

Just getting the obvious out of the way early.
 
2012-06-03 09:09:41 AM
Yeah, this is going to go over well.
 
2012-06-03 09:11:18 AM
how many people remember betamax V's VHS

Now imagine a permanently implanted betamax in your arm.
 
2012-06-03 09:12:28 AM
Never happen. The fundies in this country would lose their farking minds if someone pushed this.
 
2012-06-03 09:14:22 AM
i5.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-03 09:15:20 AM
My fundie friends are already crazy over the possibility of the Federal gov't requiring every citizen to carry a National ID at all times. I should post this story on FB and really get them going.
 
2012-06-03 09:17:34 AM

Old enough to know better: Never happen. The fundies in this country would lose their farking minds if someone pushed this.


I think I'd barcode JUST the fundies because it'd be hilarious.
 
2012-06-03 09:19:57 AM
I would love this. As it is now, my name is on a watch list, and it is a real biatch to fly anywhere. A name is not a unique identifier.
 
2012-06-03 09:20:40 AM
Ok so they aren't implanted, but how many "discount" keytags do you have on your key ring or stored in your cellphone? One for the grocery store, one for the gas station, one for that other grocery store, one for the pet store, one for another store. I have 4 different ones just on my keys, and a few stand alone cards I don;t have keytags for, what are these? Numbers associated with your personal information, that track your purchases, on the premise of giving you discounts.

People get over it, you are already being numbered and tracked, imagine how convenient it would be to have them all combined on one chip implanted in your skin, or tattooed on you that you could never loose.
 
2012-06-03 09:24:11 AM
I'm all for it if it means I'll never have to carry my wallet again.
 
2012-06-03 09:26:34 AM

filter: I would love this. As it is now, my name is on a watch list, and it is a real biatch to fly anywhere. A name is not a unique identifier.


A sekret terror watchlist is not a viable way to track people, either. You'll end up clicking on a website or walking through the wrong part of town and getting your serial number listed instead.

Its like having an invisible brand.

/Too much power in all of the wrong hands for too little improvement to the general populaces life.
 
2012-06-03 09:29:19 AM

filter: I would love this. As it is now, my name is on a watch list, and it is a real biatch to fly anywhere. A name is not a unique identifier.


Same here...
But I guess that's partially my fault for changing my name to Mohammed Atta...
 
2012-06-03 09:29:26 AM

Eshkar: Apocalyptic Christians rambling on about the mark of the Beast in three... two... go

::grabs popcorn::


IT"S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!
 
2012-06-03 09:30:06 AM
Isle, subby?

really?

Isle?
 
2012-06-03 09:31:25 AM

Weaver95: Old enough to know better: Never happen. The fundies in this country would lose their farking minds if someone pushed this.

I think I'd barcode JUST the fundies because it'd be hilarious.


And there it is. The people in government will share exactly that sentiment.

I love how this article makes it sound like this is somehow new. It's been done to livestock and pets for over a decade.

Let's all get chipped, drunk, and stupid - RFID nightclub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyzfVosXdu8
 
2012-06-03 09:34:39 AM
The U.S. continues to flirt with the idea of a 'human barcode,' an electronic ID chip assigned to every person at birth.

no it doesn't.
 
2012-06-03 09:35:14 AM

calbert: Isle, subby?

really?

Isle?


It's the Daily News...maybe it's just for people in Manhattan. ;^)
 
2012-06-03 09:39:18 AM
www.ushmm.org

Approves of the new technology
 
2012-06-03 09:41:43 AM
Sure, Not.
 
2012-06-03 09:44:48 AM
this is so early 1940's
 
2012-06-03 09:45:51 AM
I'm not sure if I like this idea.
 
2012-06-03 09:46:21 AM
Barcodes are soooooo 1990. I have a QR Code tattoo.

qrcode.kaywa.com
 
2012-06-03 09:47:39 AM
Hackers will be thrilled to change/steal/erase your identity.
 
2012-06-03 09:49:46 AM

fatkidinabeenie: Ok so they aren't implanted, but how many "discount" keytags do you have on your key ring or stored in your cellphone? One for the grocery store, one for the gas station, one for that other grocery store, one for the pet store, one for another store. I have 4 different ones just on my keys, and a few stand alone cards I don;t have keytags for, what are these? Numbers associated with your personal information, that track your purchases, on the premise of giving you discounts.

People get over it, you are already being numbered and tracked, imagine how convenient it would be to have them all combined on one chip implanted in your skin, or tattooed on you that you could never loose.


Convenient for who? Sounds like the only benefit is to retailers and authoritarian governments. What's in it for me? If my data is stolen, or someone makes an incorrect entry into the database, I could potentially be extremely farked over. The risk isn't worth the reward.
 
2012-06-03 09:50:17 AM
I have zero problems with this.
I can't wait until I can go to the grocery store and wave my hand over something and walk out.
Privacy?? You want to know I went to the gas station and the post office yesterday? Go for it.
It's not like there aren't video cameras everywhere already.
I think a lot of the people that have a problem with it are the religious type that cringe thinking someone would know they went to the nudie bar, or the violent thinking someone would know they bought a gun last week or spends their lunch break sitting in the park looking at kiddies. Or just the special people that just like thinking someone is always looking at them.
 
2012-06-03 09:53:12 AM
WHy barcodes or implanted chips? Why not biometrics instead? Thumb-prints and facial recognition software should work just fine. As for loss of privacy ... we live in a world where everybody has a phone/camera with them, which can be used as a two-way snooping device.

/sick of passwords
//only skimmed through TFA
 
2012-06-03 09:53:13 AM
People constantly biatch and moan about "Oh noes! They're going to invade my privacy. " Really? Is your life actually so full of action and intrigue that the fate of the planet will hang on whether some government employee will stop checking Facebook long enough to track your movements? Unless you do something horrifically out of the norm, you're just one record out of about three hundred million: Before AND after being chipped. The people that freak about this are the same caliber of people that slam on their brakes when they see a cop who has already pulled someone over. They're not going to stop writing that ticket, jump back in their car, and come after you unless you're doing something stupid like firing weapons in the air, throwing cocaine out the window at the other vehicles, etc. In fact, I'd guarantee that if their jobs were to just arbitrarily track citizens, the turnover rate would be astronomical out of sheer boredom.
 
2012-06-03 10:00:28 AM

Old enough to know better: Never happen. The fundies in this country would lose their farking minds if someone pushed this.


this comment makes no sense to me.

/are you implying that only "fundies" would be against this or that that this would be a good idea if only so many people wouldn't be against it? Or were you just trying to work the word "fundies" into the comment so everyone would think you're one of the cool kids?
 
2012-06-03 10:01:45 AM
Ok so they aren't implanted, but how many "discount" keytags do you have on your key ring or stored in your cellphone? One for the grocery store, one for the gas station, one for that other grocery store, one for the pet store, one for another store. I have 4 different ones just on my keys, and a few stand alone cards I don;t have keytags for, what are these? Numbers associated with your personal information, that track your purchases, on the premise of giving you discounts.

People get over it, you are already being numbered and tracked, imagine how convenient it would be to have them all combined on one chip implanted in your skin, or tattooed on you that you could never loose.


What? You didn't use false or misleading data when you applied for those discount cards? Tsk, Tsk.
 
2012-06-03 10:03:30 AM

Shyla: I have zero problems with this.


Because authorities never abuse their power?

People who are actually committing crimes aren't the only people who should be concerned. If someone unintentionally enters incorrect data on your number, you will now have to go out of your way to prove it incorrect, because everyone believes the computer.

What if someone actually maliciously hacks your account? And don't say that would be uncommon, I'll point you to about a thousand instances of corporate databases being hacked. You could be screwed beyond belief.
 
2012-06-03 10:06:17 AM

Shyla: I have zero problems with this..


I, on the other hand, have TONS of problems with this idea. without sufficient safeguards for privacy, it shouldn't even be considered.
 
2012-06-03 10:06:18 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: If someone unintentionally enters incorrect data on your number, you will now have to go out of your way to prove it incorrect, because everyone believes the computer.


Mr. Buttle unavailable for comment.
 
GBB
2012-06-03 10:08:07 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Shyla: I have zero problems with this.

Because authorities never abuse their power?

People who are actually committing crimes aren't the only people who should be concerned. If someone unintentionally enters incorrect data on your number, you will now have to go out of your way to prove it incorrect, because everyone believes the computer.

What if someone actually maliciously hacks your account? And don't say that would be uncommon, I'll point you to about a thousand instances of corporate databases being hacked. You could be screwed beyond belief.


Angela Bennet and Alan Champion agree with this.
 
2012-06-03 10:09:45 AM
Here are the problems I see with something like this:

1) It's relatively new technology and while I'm all for beta testing on the human population maybe we can let it mature a bit.
2) Someone will find a way to easily clone identities and steal information using it.
3) What keeps criminals from killing someone, cutting out the implant and reimplanting it in themselves?
4) Yes, privacy is a big deal for people in witness protection, with restraining orders, or trying to throw surprise birthday parties for their significant other.
5) It'll cause cancer.
6) The seventh seal will be broken.

This technology has so many flaws, workarounds, and hacks. Aren't things insecure enough already?
 
2012-06-03 10:11:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my datajack.
 
2012-06-03 10:11:36 AM
somethinghappens.keenspot.com
(links to original placement)
 
2012-06-03 10:14:45 AM

Shyla:
I think a lot of the people that have a problem with it are the religious type that cringe thinking someone would know they went to the nudie bar...


What happens when one of those crazy religious types ends up as governor or president and decides that you're not allowed to go to a nudie bar or maybe that you have to go to Church every Sunday, or maybe a store decides that since you like to go to nudie bars you can't shop there anymore; it's a good thing there's no way for them to always know where you've been.....oh wait you have "no problem" with allowing the government or retailers tracking your every move
 
2012-06-03 10:14:57 AM

Silverstaff: I'm Not Sure. . .

/Why come you don't have a tattoo?


Came for this, leaving happy!
 
2012-06-03 10:15:08 AM
Didn't the Nazis already come-up with and implement this at one point? Telling the people it was "just for tracking" and "identification?"

I can't recall need to look it up but something went wrong with that......
 
2012-06-03 10:16:57 AM

fatkidinabeenie: Ok so they aren't implanted, but how many "discount" keytags do you have on your key ring or stored in your cellphone?


None.
 
2012-06-03 10:17:08 AM

Hawnkee: People constantly biatch and moan about "Oh noes! They're going to invade my privacy. " Really? Is your life actually so full of action and intrigue that the fate of the planet will hang on whether some government employee will stop checking Facebook long enough to track your movements? Unless you do something horrifically out of the norm, you're just one record out of about three hundred million: Before AND after being chipped. The people that freak about this are the same caliber of people that slam on their brakes when they see a cop who has already pulled someone over. They're not going to stop writing that ticket, jump back in their car, and come after you unless you're doing something stupid like firing weapons in the air, throwing cocaine out the window at the other vehicles, etc. In fact, I'd guarantee that if their jobs were to just arbitrarily track citizens, the turnover rate would be astronomical out of sheer boredom.


bingo! sadly the author is writing in a vein indicative of many. full of themselves w/ arrogant self-important conceit, they self-flatter they're important and worthy of scrutiny. silly humans. consumers will get the eye of retail concerns but most folks are ants on a hill. insignificant.
 
GBB
2012-06-03 10:21:38 AM

Voiceofreason01: Shyla:
I think a lot of the people that have a problem with it are the religious type that cringe thinking someone would know they went to the nudie bar...

What happens when one of those crazy religious types ends up as governor or president and decides that you're not allowed to go to a nudie bar or maybe that you have to go to Church every Sunday, or maybe a store decides that since you like to go to nudie bars you can't shop there anymore; it's a good thing there's no way for them to always know where you've been.....oh wait you have "no problem" with allowing the government or retailers tracking your every move


1) even without tracking everyone's movement, crazy religious type politicians can still do that.
2) tracking movement =/= everyone having access to your tracks
 
2012-06-03 10:22:34 AM

calbert: Isle, subby?

really?

Isle?


Well, it is about a BBC story.

You, um... are aware that Great Britain is an island... right?
 
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