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(Courier Mail)   The smartphone is killing the art of conversation. Then again, people said that about regular cell phones, and land line phones, and the internet, and television, and radio, and movies, and the telegraph, and smoke signals   (couriermail.com.au) divider line 115
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2012-06-03 01:22:29 PM
Socrates did say that writing would be the death of memory.

/I know that cuz Plato wrote it down.
 
2012-06-03 01:24:18 PM

Cajnik: Don't Troll Me Bro!: I've noticed it's gotten harder to meet women since those goddamn things came out.

There's always Chloroform


I couldn't find that in the App Store.
 
2012-06-03 01:26:04 PM

Snooki Punch: LeroyBourne: As a person who was dumped via text, I am getting a kick.
/she didn't like it when i bumped into her and i calmly called her shallow.

Yup, I've also been dumped by text. That was, by far, the pinnacle of male douchery I have experienced. I don't think phones turn people into douches, I think some people are douches anyway and the presence of a smartphone exacerbates the problem.


I was disc golfing with a buddy when he asked about her. I was embarrassed at first, but when he said don't worry a girl dumped him too by text. I felt better that I wasn't the only one. I've come to the point if a girl communicates heavily via text, that that is a huge red flag in my book and to tread carefully.
 
2012-06-03 01:27:30 PM
If your date insists on texting during dinner, the polite thing to do is to excuse yourself to go to the bathroom, then quickly walk out of the restaurant and never look back.
 
2012-06-03 01:27:31 PM
My friends and I were just talking about this.
 
2012-06-03 01:27:38 PM
I wouldn't say that technology is ruining upcoming generations, as it has been said time and time again, but maybe it's increasing the noise at the expense of the signal and that is what we're seeing? Technology, while giving information to people now it hasn't in the past, also allows every and any wanker to add a voice to this monstrous, bleating, behemoth called the Internet. It's like a bunch of weeds have sprung up because some asshole blew the head off a dandelion.
 
2012-06-03 01:27:58 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: MoronLessOff: As someone who is looking to finally get a smart phone in a few months, I look forward to some of those fancy electronic versions of board games. I'm not a big word guy, but I'd be down for some Scrabble...er, Words with Friends.

I'd finally be able to get some game time in here and there. I could pretend I'm a social person!

Anyone else have smart phone board game suggestions?

Text Twist!


Googled it, it sounds a lot like Scrabble Flash, which I absolutely love. Thanks for the tip!
 
2012-06-03 01:29:51 PM

MoronLessOff: imprimere: MoronLessOff: As someone who is looking to finally get a smart phone in a few months, I look forward to some of those fancy electronic versions of board games. I'm not a big word guy, but I'd be down for some Scrabble...er, Words with Friends.

I'd finally be able to get some game time in here and there. I could pretend I'm a social person!

Anyone else have smart phone board game suggestions?

Not a board game, but Farkle is a great time passer. If you like baseball at all - Nine Innings is awesome!

Farkle always looked like fun. I've never played it. But as you might guess, if I bought it, it would just sit in the closet with my other games.

Contract is up on October...I get the tingles thinking about what I could do with an Android.


If you're anything like me, you'll drive all of your friends (who've had smart phones for awhile) nuts, while you rave about all the cool new apps and stuff you have. They'll tell you that they were excited about them in the beginning too, but eventually you will get bored. You will not believe this is possible. A few months later, you'll realize that they were right.

Although, I still have a healthy appreciation for all the things my phone can do. At any time I can look up info, record my daughter growing up, find my way when I'm lost, play games with friends... and I think I can call people too.
 
2012-06-03 01:31:42 PM

Ambitwistor: Cajnik: Don't Troll Me Bro!: I've noticed it's gotten harder to meet women since those goddamn things came out.

There's always Chloroform

I couldn't find that in the App Store.


You know, was looking for something to write for android just to get my feet wet in java (i'm more of a c++ guy)...
Thank you!
 
2012-06-03 01:32:24 PM
We went to a bar with two other couples last night and the wives texted all goddamn night long. I don't even bother arguing with her about it anymore. At one point me and the two other husbands left and went to the back and played darts for two hours. The women never came back there to check on us. I see way more women doing this then men. And her texts are all stupid bullshiat things like "Hey, we are at the bar" "There are a lot of people here" "The band is good" "I am having a rum and coke". "The line for the bathroom is really long". Do other women really give a shiat about such inane things?

And don't get me started about teenage girls and texting. I once took my daughters cellphone away from her for one night and I was afraid to close my eyes. Visions of the burning house girl haunted my dreams.

www.fileden.com
 
2012-06-03 01:35:21 PM

peachpicker: "The _______ is suited only to the flasing of messages, each to be replaced by a more up-to-date message. Facts push other facts into and then out of consciousness at speeds that neither permit nor require evaluation."

Fill in the blank.


Telegraph. The correct answer is telegraph.

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death, 1985(!)
 
2012-06-03 01:40:30 PM

hasty ambush:

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I used to know semaphore. I learned it as a Scout Master so I could teach it to my troop in preparation for a competition, and I was asked to judge it as the person scheduled to judge it could not make it to the event. At one point I was communicating with a troop that was about a half-mile away. I was really cool.
 
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2012-06-03 01:44:07 PM

WhippingBoy: sn82: My pet peeve is a guy answering a call when we're either at dinner or trying to have a nice meal together. Your phone is not important. But, we live in the texting age so who gives a f*ck, right?

Maybe he's answering a call from a less critical, more pleasant woman.


So... a guy?
 
2012-06-03 01:45:52 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I've noticed it's gotten harder to meet women since those goddamn things came out. Actually it's more since text messaging got easy and cheap. Seriously, why the hell go out somewhere if you're going to just sit there, ignore everyone and everything around you, and text back and forth with someone?

/omgwtf


Walk up and say hi. If she's "in the market" to meet men, she'll be open to you doing that. That's how I'm having to meet men--in the grocery store or a coffee shop or wherever the hell I am, just walk up and say hi to them, and make some small talk comment about something and try not to sound like a complete idiot.

Then the ball is in his court.

If he's interested in talking to me, he can say something back, and I really don't care whether he sounds like a complete idiot or not, because I know I just surprised him by walking up and he hasn't had a chance to think of anything. Just saying anything gives me some clue that I'm not actively annoying him by bugging him out of the blue.

So seriously. There are a lot women out there who are just as interested in meeting men as you are in meeting women. If you don't go up and say hi, you won't know if that girl over there is one of us. And if she says anything at all, even if it's completely stupid, that's your cue to stay and keep talking with her.

I mean, unless she says, "Go away," or "I'm married," or "Fark off, asshole." [grin]

If she says, "The avocados are on sale today" and it makes no sense in context, she may not be crazy, she may just like you so much she tried to say something so you wouldn't go away, opened her mouth, and the stupid came out---yes, we do that too. She may, that is, think you're really cute. Or something.

Anyway. You have absolutely nothing to lose by saying hi to women you don't know. You can't lose anything you don't have. If you're not sure whether she wants to keep talking to you or not, say something else to her instead of walking away.

And no, I'm not putting it all on the guy. I go up and try to meet men this way, too. I'm shy, so I still haven't gotten the knack of turning it into phone numbers and then dates, much less any farther, but I'm working up to it.

If I would love it if you'd just walk up out of the blue and say hi and start talking to me, there have to be a bazillion other single ladies who would, too. The problem is they're interspersed among the taken ones and the shy ones and the off-putting ones.

'Nother trick that might work well. Find the times like weird-o'clock on a Sunday morning when a gal might just pull on sweats and not do her hair and just run to the grocery store not done up. Do your looking then. Look for the ones with potential to clean up pretty and hit on them while their defenses are down. Get a phone number to meet for a coffee date later. You get points for being a prince of a guy, because you saw her "inner beauty" when she was a total mess and hit on her then. If she's not cute on the date, you don't have to keep seeing her.

Also, if you're up and dressed nicely while she's in sweats and unkempt, your attractiveness rises in her eyes relative to hers. Without putting her down in any way, you make yourself more interesting and make a better first impression. It's nicer not to overplay this card.

Okay, so it's manipulative as hell. It's my job to think up these things, whether I'd actually do them or not. (Because I write characters who would and do.) If you do it--only use your powers for good, grasshopper.
 
2012-06-03 01:46:13 PM
Was talking to a guy in my office one day, the phone rang and I ignored it, the guy couldn't believe that I didn't answer the phone! When I explained that I was talking to him first and that what mattered he just went wow.
 
2012-06-03 01:47:21 PM

psunbird92: LeroyBourne: As a person who was dumped via text, I am getting a kick.
/she didn't like it when i bumped into her and i calmly called her shallow.

This. Women are shallow. End.


They're less shallow when you wear deodorant.
 
2012-06-03 01:48:58 PM
Every girl I've dated since this smart phone craze started is glued to the shiat constantly when we're out or even when we're just hanging out together at the house. I've dumped girls because of it before and they always act like I'm the one being the asshole. Nobody lives their life anymore, everyone is more worried about documenting their experiences for their online friends. Don't even get me started about going to shows now and no one watches the show - everyone is standing their like an asshole filming it on their cell phones.
 
2012-06-03 01:49:02 PM

mephisto6: sn82: My pet peeve is a guy answering a call when we're either at dinner or trying to have a nice meal together. Your phone is not important. But, we live in the texting age so who gives a f*ck, right?

Answering a call during a date is sort of a d-bag move, unless it's an emergency or you're on call for something.
What I find more irritating is taking a girl out to a nice place, then watching her place her phone next to the fork like it's a part of the place-setting. I know people use the whole faux text/phone-check as a way to fill any sort of pause in a conversation ( because having to think of something to say, or just letting the moment ride is SO flippin' awkward).
It's one thing to use your "smart" phone as a crutch, another entirely to anticipate it


I see people that do this and I don't understand why. I guess I get annoyed easily by stuff like what you mentioned and it's a form of mannerisms and treating others nicely. The last guy I dated started picking his nose at the bar and I canceled out and broke up with him.
 
2012-06-03 01:49:30 PM

Julie Cochrane: If she says, "The avocados are on sale today" and it makes no sense in context, she may not be crazy, she may just like you so much she tried to say something so you wouldn't go away, opened her mouth, and the stupid came out---yes, we do that too. She may, that is, think you're really cute. Or something.


Or she might be a spy!

The cactus is hollow and eggs are over easy.
 
2012-06-03 01:50:52 PM
But the successful people will always be those who know how to engage people in a face-to-face format. We're biologically programmed that way, and those who are skilled with people will always be able to succeed.
 
2012-06-03 01:52:37 PM

keepitcherry: Nobody lives their life anymore


Actually, I've decided to do more of this...

keepitcherry: Don't even get me started about going to shows now and no one watches the show


...by going to a concert. An awesome blues singer is coming through town at the end of the month. I'm stoked!
 
2012-06-03 01:53:36 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I've noticed it's gotten harder to meet women since those goddamn things came out. Actually it's more since text messaging got easy and cheap. Seriously, why the hell go out somewhere if you're going to just sit there, ignore everyone and everything around you, and text back and forth with someone?

/omgwtf


when my wonderful wife is not hanging elsewhere with her friends she is in near constant text with them. coont should just call the lawyer and get it over with. and then burn in hell.
 
2012-06-03 01:58:45 PM

psunbird92: LeroyBourne: As a person who was dumped via text, I am getting a kick.
/she didn't like it when i bumped into her and i calmly called her shallow.

This. Women are shallow. End.


That's deep.
 
2012-06-03 02:03:42 PM
If Fark had a mobile app this wouldn't be as much of a problem. It takes too long to take a picture, get the link, then paste it into the img code.
 
2012-06-03 02:04:30 PM

sn82: mephisto6: sn82: My pet peeve is a guy answering a call when we're either at dinner or trying to have a nice meal together. Your phone is not important. But, we live in the texting age so who gives a f*ck, right?

Answering a call during a date is sort of a d-bag move, unless it's an emergency or you're on call for something.
What I find more irritating is taking a girl out to a nice place, then watching her place her phone next to the fork like it's a part of the place-setting. I know people use the whole faux text/phone-check as a way to fill any sort of pause in a conversation ( because having to think of something to say, or just letting the moment ride is SO flippin' awkward).
It's one thing to use your "smart" phone as a crutch, another entirely to anticipate it

I see people that do this and I don't understand why. I guess I get annoyed easily by stuff like what you mentioned and it's a form of mannerisms and treating others nicely. The last guy I dated started picking his nose at the bar and I canceled out and broke up with him.


yeah, I know what you mean.I look at it as just being lazy.
Also, that nose-picking guy was just flippin' rude... I never do that before the third date
 
2012-06-03 02:07:03 PM
Widespread stupidity is what's destroying the art of conversation. Technology just allows people to be stupid more efficiently.
 
2012-06-03 02:12:09 PM
AcneVulgaris: Technology just allows people to be stupid more efficiently.

Typing badly with your thumbs for three hours on an average day isn't efficient. It's just prolific. I suppose a lot of people are more widely stupid nowadays. Of course, the way cell phones have trained people to shout their moronic conversations in public is a good example.

I work in retail in a college town, and in my store in one year I hear one side of enough loud conversations about STDs to fill ten seasons of an MTV sitcom.
 
2012-06-03 02:13:24 PM
Unfortunately, there are people who feel they should be making noises with their pieholes all the time. It's like they're afraid of silence. It used to be they'd at least be quiet when they were by themselves. But now they have phones and can carry on inane chatter 24/7.
 
2012-06-03 02:33:25 PM
Depending on how you're measuring intelligence, stupidy is actually considered on the decline. If you look at literacy rates, graduation rates, etc, the world's never been smarter even allowing for increased population.

I don't know how much history any of y'all have studied, but when one culture meets another (say, Western Europeans meeting Native Americans), it typically hasn't gone so peacefully. So today we are ever more connected to each other and encounter whole sections of society once kept safely across the tracks. Maybe some of the they-don't-talk-all-good rhetoric here is the result of that close proximity to difference?...
 
2012-06-03 02:36:59 PM

mephisto6: sn82: mephisto6: sn82: My pet peeve is a guy answering a call when we're either at dinner or trying to have a nice meal together. Your phone is not important. But, we live in the texting age so who gives a f*ck, right?

Answering a call during a date is sort of a d-bag move, unless it's an emergency or you're on call for something.
What I find more irritating is taking a girl out to a nice place, then watching her place her phone next to the fork like it's a part of the place-setting. I know people use the whole faux text/phone-check as a way to fill any sort of pause in a conversation ( because having to think of something to say, or just letting the moment ride is SO flippin' awkward).
It's one thing to use your "smart" phone as a crutch, another entirely to anticipate it

I see people that do this and I don't understand why. I guess I get annoyed easily by stuff like what you mentioned and it's a form of mannerisms and treating others nicely. The last guy I dated started picking his nose at the bar and I canceled out and broke up with him.

yeah, I know what you mean.I look at it as just being lazy.
Also, that nose-picking guy was just flippin' rude... I never do that before the third date


Heh :P
 
2012-06-03 03:08:15 PM

LegoLewdite: Actually want it to get better? Reform the education system.


Honestly I don't think anything's wrong with the education system. It's kids that are broken, raised by their parents to prioritize the wrong things.
 
2012-06-03 03:10:31 PM

libranoelrose: If Fark had a mobile app this wouldn't be as much of a problem. It takes too long to take a picture, get the link, then paste it into the img code.


Fark does have a mobile app. It just sucks and is totally useless. All it really does is make quoting a bit easier. But then you don't have the option to selectively quote a portion of the post, you have to quote the whole thing.
 
2012-06-03 03:19:37 PM

ChuDogg: libranoelrose: If Fark had a mobile app this wouldn't be as much of a problem. It takes too long to take a picture, get the link, then paste it into the img code.

Fark does have a mobile app. It just sucks and is totally useless. All it really does is make quoting a bit easier. But then you don't have the option to selectively quote a portion of the post, you have to quote the whole thing.


A mobile version of the site is not a mobile app.
 
2012-06-03 03:31:05 PM

AcneVulgaris: Widespread stupidity is what's destroying the art of conversation. Technology just allows people to be stupid more efficiently.


Who says it's being destroyed? What we have to compare today's ambient level of stupidity to is nostalgic memories of yesterday's ambient stupidity, plus books, movies, newspapers, and magazines.

I don't think people are dumber or douchier now than they used to be. I think the difference is that now it's almost like everybody has a megaphone. We're all in this big, huge stadium of people screaming, only instead of a chaotic, unintelligible roar, if something even half catches our attention, we can zero right in on it and pick it out of all the noise around it, in fine detail.

Like George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina who everyone across the internet now knows, or has the ready potential to know, is a colossal, racist, misogynist douche.

Anyway. Graham's Law applies: If the average IQ is 100, then half the people you meet are walking around with double digits.

It's not that the art of conversation has been lost. It's not being killed. It's not even on the injured list. Its performance is merely suffering from having become so much more visibly inclusive.

But people writing, people reading--texting and checking social media and updating social media constantly? Even if they're only doing this in text speak and including every emoticon in the book, they're working the areas of the brain that process text. That's a good thing. Viva la smart phone.
 
2012-06-03 03:45:40 PM
A girl I am dating now is constantly messaging people. I took it personally at first but never said anything. Then she posted some pics on Facebook and I stopped to really look for the first time. If she was posing for a pic, she had her phone in her hand. If someone took a candid shot, she was almost always messaging someone. I decided that as long as we got some time with no phone in her hand I was actually doing pretty well, because that's pretty rare for her. But there's no way we'll ever get serious because I still consider the phone thing rude.

What was funny to me was a younger friend of hers who felt I talk too much. meanwhile, she is always texting someone, even people who are right there. Hate to tell you, but texting all the time is at least as bad, and probably worse.
 
2012-06-03 03:49:54 PM

Enigmamf: LegoLewdite: Actually want it to get better? Reform the education system.

Honestly I don't think anything's wrong with the education system. It's kids that are broken, raised by their parents to prioritize the wrong things.


Um, parents are the products of our educational system as well. And their parents and so on. Soon these kids you find so broken will be parents - even sooner if you keep cutting funding to schools. American infrastructure in general and the public school system in particular has been crumbling steadily since the early 80s. Where would you prioritize spending to reform things?

And wtf? Broken kids? All jokes aside, have you seen an evil baby? That makes no sense to me...
 
2012-06-03 04:21:08 PM
"Go away! Datin'!"
 
2012-06-03 04:21:13 PM

LegoLewdite: Enigmamf: LegoLewdite: Actually want it to get better? Reform the education system.

Honestly I don't think anything's wrong with the education system. It's kids that are broken, raised by their parents to prioritize the wrong things.

Um, parents are the products of our educational system as well. And their parents and so on. Soon these kids you find so broken will be parents - even sooner if you keep cutting funding to schools. American infrastructure in general and the public school system in particular has been crumbling steadily since the early 80s. Where would you prioritize spending to reform things?

And wtf? Broken kids? All jokes aside, have you seen an evil baby? That makes no sense to me...


Umm, Yes, Yes I have... That's her official nick~name...
She's totally adorable, and I've resently trained her to smile sweetly and summon a "kissy cheeky for you" with her cute little, pudgey finger...
And just when you expect a peck on the face... It's a sloppy Wet Willy into your ear and runs away screaming 'Wet Willy U SuckA'!!!...

That's my girl!
 
2012-06-03 04:23:55 PM

LegoLewdite: Enigmamf: LegoLewdite: Actually want it to get better? Reform the education system.

Honestly I don't think anything's wrong with the education system. It's kids that are broken, raised by their parents to prioritize the wrong things.

Um, parents are the products of our educational system as well. And their parents and so on. Soon these kids you find so broken will be parents - even sooner if you keep cutting funding to schools. American infrastructure in general and the public school system in particular has been crumbling steadily since the early 80s. Where would you prioritize spending to reform things?

And wtf? Broken kids? All jokes aside, have you seen an evil baby? That makes no sense to me...


I never said a word about cutting funding to schools, and in fact my rhetorical position is intended to oppose a favorite right-wing meme of late that our schools are failing our kids, and thus in need of drastic reform (usually, in their, mind privatization, and the lunatic fantasy that by cutting salaries you'll only keep the teachers who are "devoted" to teaching).

I simply don't see any way that schools can fix the cultural problems with America, and I don't think that's their job. I don't think there is any answer, really. except to say that for whatever reason, American children simply don't seem to value education. The parents who can make a difference, are no different. But to lambast hard-working teachers for a problem that is beyond their limited influence is unfair.
 
2012-06-03 04:35:22 PM

WordyGrrl: "Go away! Datin'!"


The lady who sits near me wanted to know what I was laughing at.

I told her to watch the movie, she said she will give it a shot.
 
2012-06-03 05:09:52 PM

AcneVulgaris: Widespread stupidity is what's destroying the art of conversation. Technology just allows people to be stupid more efficiently.


Couldn't agree more. What's happening is that the stupid starts to get louder and more widespread. A phone is extension of this stupidity, for example, a woman text messaging using facebook on a phone while driving is stupidity incarnate.

What benefit is there for me to approach a girl and talk to her? So I can get pepper sprayed to the face?, So I can get cold-shouldered or get a "talk to the hand" sort of thing? or maybe she will just whip out her phone and fondle it while I'm in the middle of greeting her? How do I know if this person isn't already taken? These are all rhetorical situations obviously.

How do you people handle a text break-up with someone you had thought you had some investment in? Do you respond with a "KSRYBYE"? What if it's a person you see on a consistent basis? Am I to assume that meeting girls is considered fun? Let's not even get into the whole dating thing either, there's a whole cost-benefit thing going on there that defies logic. They want us to spend time, brains and money just so that they can giggle at little shiat we do? For shame! I can see why people would rather put down 30$ a month on WOW or $59.99 on Starcraft II, than going out and wasting money at a bar where it's a big gay sausage fest anyways.
 
2012-06-03 05:36:43 PM
When I was a kid in the '80s my father used to randomly pick up the paper and start reading when there was company over. Antisocial silliness is not really new.

You're not obligated to use the phone for anyone that's close by, and in fact I don't see why you would unless you don't want to talk to them anyhow, in which case you'd be not talking to them be focusing on your drink, doing a crossword, etc if you didn't have your phone. The phone really changes nothing.
 
2012-06-03 05:41:10 PM

Julie Cochrane: Don't Troll Me Bro!: I've noticed it's gotten harder to meet women since those goddamn things came out. Actually it's more since text messaging got easy and cheap. Seriously, why the hell go out somewhere if you're going to just sit there, ignore everyone and everything around you, and text back and forth with someone?

/omgwtf

Walk up and say hi. If she's "in the market" to meet men, she'll be open to you doing that. That's how I'm having to meet men--in the grocery store or a coffee shop or wherever the hell I am, just walk up and say hi to them, and make some small talk comment about something and try not to sound like a complete idiot.

Then the ball is in his court.

If he's interested in talking to me, he can say something back, and I really don't care whether he sounds like a complete idiot or not, because I know I just surprised him by walking up and he hasn't had a chance to think of anything. Just saying anything gives me some clue that I'm not actively annoying him by bugging him out of the blue.

So seriously. There are a lot women out there who are just as interested in meeting men as you are in meeting women. If you don't go up and say hi, you won't know if that girl over there is one of us. And if she says anything at all, even if it's completely stupid, that's your cue to stay and keep talking with her.

And no, I'm not putti ...


I want to agree with you, but, modern social protocol says that people go to a grocery store to buy food and people go to a bar to find companionship. I don't agree with it, but that's how it is.

The best way that I've understood to meet a single person is to do the things that you like to do, and this is important, by yourself. Don't take a friend on a hike in the park, or take a friend to a cooking/art/dancing/etc. class, go alone. This takes a lot of guesswork out of compatibility as well (and for article relevance, shows you how attached they are to their texting device). If you go to a bar alone, you should only be looking for a fling, as alcohol being a common interest doesn't last. (See article three down on main page.)
 
2012-06-03 05:46:24 PM

powhound: Yeah, well it's making the kids a whole lot dumber. In the past there were always distractions that got *some* kids derailed, like NES or D&D or whatever. But the smart phone provides a distraction no matter who you are. When these people start spawning you better watch out.


START spawning? Some of them already started about 10 years ago. Their kids are dumb as rocks and their parents can't figure out between facebook posts why their chidrenz rnt lernin.
 
2012-06-03 06:36:09 PM

beachboy: We went to a bar with two other couples last night and the wives texted all goddamn night long. I don't even bother arguing with her about it anymore. At one point me and the two other husbands left and went to the back and played darts for two hours. The women never came back there to check on us. I see way more women doing this then men. And her texts are all stupid bullshiat things like "Hey, we are at the bar" "There are a lot of people here" "The band is good" "I am having a rum and coke". "The line for the bathroom is really long". Do other women really give a shiat about such inane things?

And don't get me started about teenage girls and texting. I once took my daughters cellphone away from her for one night and I was afraid to close my eyes. Visions of the burning house girl haunted my dreams.


The wives in your anecdote sound like they want other people to think they're having fun more than they care about having fun themselves. It sounds like teenage girl bullshiat.
 
2012-06-03 06:40:28 PM

MoronLessOff: Julie Cochrane: If she says, "The avocados are on sale today" and it makes no sense in context, she may not be crazy, she may just like you so much she tried to say something so you wouldn't go away, opened her mouth, and the stupid came out---yes, we do that too. She may, that is, think you're really cute. Or something.

Or she might be a spy!

The cactus is hollow and eggs are over easy.


Well, if you weren't on a Homeland Security watchlist, you are now.

/the purple cow flies at midnight
 
2012-06-03 06:54:37 PM
Some of us aren't social creatures. Rather than sitting there staring blankly, we use our phones when boredom sets in.
 
2012-06-03 07:28:42 PM

Goimir: Some of us aren't social creatures. Rather than sitting there staring blankly, we use our phones when boredom sets in.


See, that's the thing about it. Using your phone because you're bored can either be like sitting there watching the game at the bar or reading a book because maybe you're waiting for someone who isn't there yet or something--reasonable. Or you're there for a meal and not really into the particular crowd around you, or not feeling particularly sociable tonight/today--also reasonable.

Or, you could be there where you're theoretically supposed to be socializing with these particular people, in which case using your phone is like perpetually checking your watch and pacing. It's the visibly rude kiss-off that says to the people around you that they are beneath your notice, friendliness, and politeness.

So it can be okay, or it can be really rude, and it just depends on the situation and the eye of the beholder.
 
2012-06-03 07:33:30 PM
No major loss, really, IMHO. I mean, have you met the people I work with? Really? Nah, I kid, actually even as phone addicted as all of my co-workers and managers are, they're all pretty cool and will carry on conversations quite well more or less face to face, with two or three second breaks in between so they can play Angry Birds, erm, I mean, Words with Friends...

/not a smartphone owner, but I can dream, *sigh*
 
2012-06-03 07:37:47 PM

Krieghund: beachboy: We went to a bar with two other couples last night and the wives texted all goddamn night long. I don't even bother arguing with her about it anymore. At one point me and the two other husbands left and went to the back and played darts for two hours. The women never came back there to check on us. I see way more women doing this then men. And her texts are all stupid bullshiat things like "Hey, we are at the bar" "There are a lot of people here" "The band is good" "I am having a rum and coke". "The line for the bathroom is really long". Do other women really give a shiat about such inane things?

And don't get me started about teenage girls and texting. I once took my daughters cellphone away from her for one night and I was afraid to close my eyes. Visions of the burning house girl haunted my dreams.

The wives in your anecdote sound like they want other people to think they're having fun more than they care about having fun themselves. It sounds like teenage girl bullshiat.


And to ladies that think their phone date is more important than the real date: keep in mind the Laws of Unintended Consequences. While you are too busy to look up from that device and go find your man once in a while, that hottie in the other room that is NOT stuck on facebook or twitter noticed you aren't paying attention and is making her move. You thought he was hot when you two got together? So does someone else tonight. You have been warned.

/teenage behavior doesn't end at 25....or even 35.
 
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